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Big Dick Problem
/r/seduction01/11/16 05:19 AM
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Thank you man, I like this outlook.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/16 04:58 PM
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So what's the general mindset to have when working a job you don't like? Just be patient while trying to find a different job? I'm working a job that I have no choice but to be at right now. I'm too broke to not be working, but I can't say I enjoy it. Would love to hear what approach to take.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/16 01:16 AM
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and it only started in my 40s. I do believe many would call you lucky my friend
/r/TheRedPill16/03/16 03:11 AM
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If you feel the need to wash your hair every day, there is no problem with this. Also not very good for you (assuming shampoo is used)
/r/TheRedPill16/03/16 03:08 AM
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it's probably fine to take. Oh god, if my doctor said that...
/r/TheRedPill16/03/16 03:00 AM
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How are you kino'ing and escalating in a restaurant? Doesn't seem like an easy place to get intimate in
/r/askTRP28/09/15 12:24 PM
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Awesome tips, thanks a bunch.
/r/askTRP28/09/15 12:23 PM
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Then I would tone it down a bit if you think people are turned off by your personality. Maybe maintain a good level of positives and not going over the top with the energy. Watch the dudes around you who have a lot of friends or who are getting girls and try to internalize the things they're doing that are attracting people to them.
/r/seduction28/09/15 02:12 AM
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I don’t like pizza WHAT ARE YOU
/r/seduction28/09/15 02:05 AM
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It sounds like you're trying a little too hard. I think you should just relax a bit and have some fun. It sounds like you have a bunch of things to make for a good conversation, but how's your energy? If you want to be the life of the party and be the guy everyone loves, you have to completely cool with being your own man. It sounds stupid, but you need to love yourself.
/r/seduction28/09/15 02:03 AM
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Not a problem man.
/r/seduction28/09/15 01:52 AM
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Why are you worried? If you know for a fact she's really into you, she'll get back to you. And if she doesn't, it's not the end of the world. Keep going after them man.
/r/seduction28/09/15 01:51 AM
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Generally if you f-close a girl on the first night, she's probably not looking for anything long term. However, it's far easier to hook up again once you've already banged her. Talk to her whenever you want and play it by ear if you think you can get a relationship out of it.
/r/seduction28/09/15 01:47 AM
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Is she completely unresponsive or neutral? If she's unresponsive you just need to take it as she's not interested and move on. If she's neutral, then keep trying.
/r/seduction28/09/15 01:44 AM
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she hit me with the lets be friends which is when I completely ended things. It doesn't matter then, you should be going after more girls. She fucked with you for years, you should be avoiding her like the plague.
/r/seduction28/09/15 01:40 AM
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"Let's go do a drive-by. Bring your piece." I like this idea. But nah, I guess I'll just do the whole drinks thing.
/r/askTRP27/09/15 10:28 PM
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Your natural instinct is going to be to cave in right off the bat. Next time something confrontational happens, just take a second and assess the situation. You don't need to react instantly, take a second to really think it through.
/r/seduction27/09/15 10:08 PM
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if anything the negative results will just knock you off your game. Admittedly I've never used Tinder, but if you go into it with the mentality of "Well this is going to most likely be a shit storm. I'll do it for laughs" and do it with an IDGAF mentality, it might be something entertaining to do on the side of normal game.
/r/seduction27/09/15 10:06 PM
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I knew a guy who went to Thailand and had sex with hookers all over the country with no protection. That is absolutely frightening. Idk how people can do it.
/r/seduction27/09/15 09:37 PM
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Awesome thanks, and yeah I've been seeing the headlines about them. Idrc as long as I can get tested there.
/r/seduction27/09/15 09:36 PM
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What does this have to do with her opinion? I'm trying to set up a date that doesn't give off a vibe that I want a relationship. It's not like I was like "Hey, what are your thoughts on getting some coffee?" or something.
/r/askTRP27/09/15 09:34 PM
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That's why we do this man. Keep going out and learning from your mistakes, your game will be solid before you know it.
/r/seduction27/09/15 06:00 PM
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I'm actually pretty petrified myself. I always bring a condom but sometimes you just get dealt a bad hand. It's funny though, a bunch of my friends (Who don't know anything about pickup) openly talk about how they never use a condom. And these are dudes that have been with 20-40 women each, yet they've never mentioned catching anything.
/r/seduction27/09/15 05:59 PM
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Kind of random question, but is there a special clinic you have to go to to get tested or can you just set up an appointment at a normal doctors office?
/r/seduction27/09/15 05:56 PM
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Wait, did she ever respond to your last text? If she didn't it might not be worth it to text her. If a girl is interested, she will get a hold of you. Even if you have to next her, don't be so down about it. This whole process is weeding out girls who you are or aren't going to have a good time with. Your time is valuable to yourself. Would you rather spend time with a girl who is murky or a girl who is pumped to see you?
/r/seduction27/09/15 05:50 PM
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That's quite the limiting belief my friend. Texting is arguably very important in modern pickup. (N-closes, logistics, etc.)
/r/seduction27/09/15 05:38 PM
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Most do. I can't help but think her lack of sexual experience has something to do with it.
/r/seduction27/09/15 05:29 PM
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You didn't mention any kino or escalation at all. You need to have her pretty warmed up to you before you attempt a kiss. It's not shocking she gave you a hard rejection. There was a few positives though, like switching venues and unplanned events. Next time, kino as early as possible and constantly be escalating.
/r/seduction27/09/15 05:27 PM
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You could wait a few days and text her again and see what her response is, but her completely ignoring your invitation to meet up isn't a good sign. And don't worry about "text game", it's overrated. Worry about inner game and self-improvement before you even consider "text game".
/r/seduction27/09/15 05:23 PM
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The best thing would've been to let Steve go after Claire but if she's not interested him then there's not much you can do. At least you're into John and he's into you, and it's good that Claire isn't into him either because that could've gotten messy.
/r/seduction27/09/15 05:16 PM
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Ehh that's debatable. A lot of people find it weird to call these days, as opposed to just texting to set up a date. OP I'd do whatever one you're more comfortable with.
/r/seduction27/09/15 05:09 PM
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That's really all you need "text game" for. Mostly for logistics with a witty text or two here and there. It's completely fine to set up a date through text instead of in person.
/r/seduction27/09/15 01:10 AM
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Oh I do get it... Get it? Errr...
/r/seduction27/09/15 12:39 AM
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Alright so you need to transform into a cat and develop some speed, no big deal right?
/r/seduction27/09/15 12:31 AM
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I'm confident you can lol.
/r/seduction27/09/15 12:14 AM
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I was impressed with how fast they were going :P
/r/seduction27/09/15 12:04 AM
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Haha not every guy is trying to be a player, I assure you. And here, this will make you laugh.
/r/seduction26/09/15 11:56 PM
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I'm sorry, but I laughed. I'm sure you'll meet someone soon enough who won't neg you into bed.
/r/seduction26/09/15 11:45 PM
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Now you're getting it.
/r/seduction26/09/15 11:36 PM
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Yeah the whole arms folded thing is pretty vague. They say it shows the person's defensiveness, yet I'll sit/stand with crossed arms when I'm just hanging out with my boys. Can go either way. It sounds like you're pretty good at making a conversation flow organically, so I think you should just trust your gut here.
/r/seduction26/09/15 11:34 PM
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Negging is just another pickup tactic. There's tons of them. Also I wasn't referring to you as a rhino, just my appreciation for them
/r/seduction26/09/15 11:29 PM
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A rhino haha. Maybe I'm into rhinos? And yep, just like that all of my techniques are gone lol. I might have to start negging you.
/r/seduction26/09/15 11:08 PM
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Personal-investment.
/r/seduction26/09/15 11:04 PM
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I lol'd.
/r/seduction26/09/15 11:04 PM
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Well lets meet up for a drink and I'll find out. I kid, I kid. But some guys just need guidance on seduction. Even a guy is "negging" you, he could just be doing it because he's really really into you but hasn't fully developed his confidence.
/r/seduction26/09/15 11:02 PM
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Not really, they just move a lot faster with the dynamic of the interaction. (Getting touchy feely quickly, trying to kiss early, etc.) And honestly, that doesn't mean that all guys that move fast are in it just for the numbers. That could just be how they are as a person.
/r/seduction26/09/15 10:57 PM
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Girl 1 I say just go to her cafe and try to n-close her. Say something like "Hey you're fun to talk to, gimme your number and lets get some drinks sometime". There was a couple IOIs (Investing in conversation, smiles) but also some IODs (Constant phone checking, folded arms. Although she could just be a little nervous or the arms folded is a misleading sign) so going to her cafe and trying to close will give you an idea of where she stands. If it doesn't work out, hey at least you got to have a …
/r/seduction26/09/15 10:50 PM
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You're letting your friends completely control your emotions. They shouldn't be affecting your mood at all. If they say "This party sucks, lets go home" Tell them they can go but you're going to stay and have a good time. You don't have to do anything you don't want to. Be the good time that you seem to be seeking in other people. You'll attract new more motivated, fun friends.
/r/seduction26/09/15 10:41 PM
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Most of the guys in this sub are virgins or highly inexperienced, so they're just trying to become an overall attractive male. I would say it's a healthy balance of dudes who are looking for relationships and dudes who are just in it for the numbers.
/r/seduction26/09/15 10:39 PM
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As I ended the night, I realized things might’ve been rushed because we knew each other so little. It's a bad idea to not escalate with a girl who wants to escalate. She will lose interest very quickly. It means less to her than it means to me You're investing more than her, this is not a good sign. She’s been honest as well and said she’s not quite as attracted as when we initially met Probably because you're not moving fast enough for her. If you really like her and want to lock her down, your…
/r/seduction26/09/15 10:36 PM
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Cool. Now you see why seduction for a man is all about becoming the best version of himself.
/r/seduction26/09/15 10:30 PM
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Then use texting for logistics only then. If she's in to you, she'll be down. No point in trying to win her over through text. Hopefully she's not boring in person as well, because that's where you should be flirting.
/r/seduction26/09/15 10:28 PM
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"Cause I'm looking for a bad bitch" No but for real, just come up with a witty response. "Idk, I just have a nagging suspicion. It's almost like telepathy"
/r/seduction26/09/15 10:26 PM
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Yeah or nice guys who are there for a girl's every beckoning call, only to get shitted on. Hears a question for ya: would you rather have sex with a really good looking guy whose got no game whatsoever and a terrible personality, or a decent/normal looking dude whose smooth af?
/r/seduction26/09/15 10:20 PM
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I honestly have no idea what this is.
/r/seduction26/09/15 10:15 PM
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You're going to get rejected a lot more than you'll have success my man. But it's not a bad thing at all to get rejected. Weeds out the girls that you're not going to have a good time with anyways, and helps build experience.
/r/seduction26/09/15 10:14 PM
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There's only one way to find out!
/r/seduction26/09/15 10:10 PM
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Absolutely. There will always be players, assholes, manipulative dudes, etc. Unfortunately not every guy out there has read Models. Same can be said for women as well though.
/r/seduction26/09/15 10:10 PM
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Hey, it's no big deal. At least you asked so you could hear the truth, instead of just having an negative outlook to tell others.
/r/seduction26/09/15 10:06 PM
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That's old school pick up, things have changed. Modern pickup is all about self-improvement and becoming the best version of yourself. It's not about tricks and gimmicks anymore.
/r/seduction26/09/15 09:59 PM
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As I said in the original post, I've been taking some steps to build an enjoyable life in my remaining time here. This is what I would be doing if I were in this situation. College is a great chance to build a social life and have a little bit of fun. Since you're posting on /r/seduction and have read Models, I'm assuming you're into game. College is prime time for that. And if you can fit in time for writing... I think you'll be just fine. Getting some counseling isn't a bad idea at all. I can'…
/r/seduction26/09/15 09:49 PM
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Awesome man hope it works out for ya.
/r/seduction26/09/15 09:30 PM
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shouted at a guy cos he had a bad shirt. Lol poor guy.
/r/seduction26/09/15 09:28 PM
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I fully believe in doing what you truly want, but I think in this case it might not be a bad idea to stick it out. I'm sure you've already invested a ton into this college, might as well stick it out. Even if you don't plan on using the degree it could be something to fall back on, or support yourself until your writing career takes off. I would look at your situation as just another increase in social value. You could be a writer who also majored in Economics; that would be an impressive title …
/r/seduction26/09/15 05:03 PM
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For what it's worth, if you value your job highly it might not be worth it to game her in case shit hits the fan. It will suck having to go work every day and dealing with an awkward situation. Buttttttt, if you're at the point where you have your arm around her and she's reciprocating (Leaning in to you or something similar), you should be just about in the clear. Girls usually give you "the eyes" when they're expecting a kiss. Most guys don't see it for what it is and just think she's staring …
/r/seduction26/09/15 04:22 PM
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I wouldn't just randomly state that I am. But if she asks I'm going to be honest with her, no reason to lie.
/r/seduction26/09/15 03:56 PM
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There should be solid kino before you try to kiss. If you try to kiss her without climbing the escalation ladder, there's a good chance she'll reject it unless she already really likes you.
/r/seduction26/09/15 03:53 PM
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That's absolutely terrifying. I'm surprised that's happened to you 4 times. I just told her to take a Plan B lol.
/r/seduction26/09/15 03:46 PM
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GJ Xavier, maybe she gets pregnant and you will have to pay child support to your fat, ugly coworker :D I fucking hate you. No but real, there's no chance they're related. Leatherjacket is from a town like half an hour away.
/r/seduction26/09/15 03:33 PM
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There's a lot of IOIs honestly. You could be right about her ASD with regards to the whole referring to you as a friend and moving away when your roommate came down. Give her another chance if you want, but if she pulls the same stuff again I'd cut contact because she seems murky.
/r/seduction26/09/15 03:28 PM
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"Oh I almost thought you were never going to finally do it." HEED THOSE WORDS BOYS. Just. DO IT!
/r/seduction25/09/15 10:06 PM
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Idk if you came up with that, but god dammit it made my day.
/r/seduction25/09/15 10:04 PM
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the intensity of the kiss should match the intensity of the moment. This is what I would call the perfect answer. There's a bunch of different ways of kissing, but they each have their own time and place. Just go with the moment and let it be natural.
/r/seduction25/09/15 10:00 PM
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When you're dancing and doing your thing, look around you. If you see any girls giving you IOIs (Looking at you and then looking away when you look at them, smiles, etc.) Just go up to them and start dancing. You can literally just try dancing with them or you can open first ("Hey hows it going?" "You're really cute I just had to meet you" etc.), and then try dancing with them. If you get rejected in anyway, laugh it off and move on to the next. "Just have fun" is the key advice because that's w…
/r/seduction25/09/15 09:58 PM
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At 18, I mostly hooked up with 18-29 year olds Uhhh... That is a big range.
/r/seduction24/09/15 08:09 PM
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"Over a hundred" She's like a walking sperm bank
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 07:41 PM
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You're not seeing the bigger picture. I'm not saying to give no fucks about anything at all cause it's all pointless. The idea is that you only have so much time on this planet, and most things we encounter in our lives are completely pointless, yet people let those things plague their existence. The idea is to just enjoy the things you truly care about because everything else is pointless and our time here is extremely limited.
/r/seduction24/09/15 03:13 PM
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Not that even matters, but I'm not sold at all. I can't find any links to that vid in question and the link to the vid they posted isn't working for me. Even if he was, what would it matter? Look at Neil Patrick Harris. He's openly gay and still kills it.
/r/seduction24/09/15 02:28 PM
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Awesome job man, sounded like a fun time. Normally I would say not to buy a girl drinks, but it sounds like things were going smoothly and you had built solid rapport.
/r/seduction24/09/15 01:56 PM
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Lol I figured you were trolling me.
/r/seduction24/09/15 01:53 PM
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Me trying to argue with you about this concept is ironically pointless as well, so I respect your opinion.
/r/seduction24/09/15 01:49 PM
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Wait... Is he really?
/r/seduction24/09/15 12:00 PM
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Love it. He's a cookie cutter example of a true "Alpha". He's not cocky or full of himself, (The interviewer does try to call him out on his status, but Gerard just makes a joke of it.) he's laughing a lot, and he just seems like he's truly enjoying himself.
/r/seduction24/09/15 12:38 AM
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I hate that it bothers me but I stopped reading this post because of it.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/15 12:01 AM
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The more you do it, the easier it gets, and the more fun it is. You're going to kill it man, have fun with it!
/r/seduction23/09/15 11:59 PM
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It doesn't matter what you say, but how you say it. Master body language, vocal tonality, find true confidence, and you can talk to her about fucking a goat and she'll still go home with you.
/r/seduction23/09/15 11:14 PM
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Ohh you pimp. I bet you felt good afterwards breaking out of your shell. Now do this a couple dozen more times and you're going to be beating them off with a stick.
/r/seduction23/09/15 11:08 PM
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On the grand scheme of things, it actually is pointless. The world will survive whether you get laid or not. Everything is pointless, so you might as well do things you enjoy (having sex) because looking at the bigger picture, it doesn't matter at all.
/r/seduction23/09/15 10:54 PM
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You do it because you enjoy it. I enjoy the thrill of trying to get girls, trying to seduce them, seeing if they're even enjoyable to be around. Do things because you enjoy them.
/r/seduction23/09/15 10:51 PM
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tears up
/r/seduction23/09/15 08:04 PM
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Think about the people you know who are respected. Carry yourself the same way they do and eventually you'll be respected.
/r/seduction23/09/15 04:50 PM
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Don't worry about the opinions of others. Concentrate on building yourself as the best person you can be and learn to have massive self-respect. Don't let people walk all over you.
/r/seduction23/09/15 04:38 PM
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It's true. Everything is essentially pointless. Driving to work is pointless, paying bills is pointless, being scared to talk to that girl is pointless. Everything's temporary so you might as well not take things too seriously and enjoy what you can, while you can.
/r/seduction23/09/15 04:17 PM
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It's pretty clear she wasn't looking for a guy who was in a relationship, even if it was an open one.
/r/seduction23/09/15 01:59 PM
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Or better yet... Get a woman for a wingman. Wingwoman. You catch my drift.
/r/seduction23/09/15 01:58 PM
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You sir, are random as hell... I like it.
/r/seduction23/09/15 12:39 PM
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That's my kind of party
/r/seduction23/09/15 12:34 PM
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That's awesome man, glad to hear you're enjoying where you're at. You're going to be a savage in no time!
/r/seduction22/09/15 11:32 PM
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Well... I stand corrected. Have you been able to pull any yet?
/r/seduction22/09/15 11:11 PM
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I don't think I would consider it personally, but I can totally see it being a huge confidence boost, especially around women. I always thought you'd have to dance for a lot of fat chicks, is this the case?
/r/seduction22/09/15 10:32 PM
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Don't give her all of your attention. If she's not returning your moves, just move on like it's no big deal, because it's really not.
/r/seduction22/09/15 07:36 PM
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Yeah, I caught all the parts about kino. I find it hard to understand why she'd reject a kiss attempt if she's all over you and talking to you about sexual shit. Like I said though, give it another shot and see what happens.
/r/seduction22/09/15 07:07 PM
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Sounds good but I would try to k-close and if she doesn't reciprocate I'd move on. You're wasting your time if she's not reciprocating.
/r/seduction22/09/15 05:11 PM
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Sometimes you just can't get them to play. I wouldn't contact her, let her get a hold of you. I wouldn't be surprised if she comes to you.
/r/seduction22/09/15 03:36 PM
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That has nothing to do with being in a "mentally small world". I'm not going to go up to some random chick and her friend whose balling her eyes out and put my arm around her. That's just not something I'd do. It has nothing to do with a "fear of not being liked or doing something wrong you run from who you are". I simply wouldn't want to deal with the problems of some random girl who I know absolutely nothing about. First of all, it's none of my business as to why she's crying. Second of all, i…
/r/seduction22/09/15 02:29 PM
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It's just a girl, there's plenty more. Which you should definitely be approaching more of.
/r/seduction22/09/15 12:41 PM
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A species success is based on it's reproduction and evolution. This means our biological instinct - what we've evolved to feel the need for - is to reproduce because it's what secures our species' survival. Being skilled in attracting the opposite sex means you have the ability to reproduce, so your instinct is naturally being satisfied. It's like what blood is to a Vampire - same kind of concept. Obviously we can adapt to not feel the need to quench this instinct, but most of us enjoy the rush.…
/r/seduction21/09/15 11:40 PM
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Absolutely. It's awesome because there's a bunch of stories where you can read about the theory and practices in action, on top of quality information.
/r/seduction21/09/15 10:26 PM
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Ask her if she wants to 68.
/r/seduction21/09/15 07:24 PM
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I think the next step after digesting the sidebar is to check out the top posts of all time. There is seriously a massive wealth of knowledge there.
/r/seduction21/09/15 06:20 PM
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"I am a woman not a 'plate'" I have my doubts that she's even a plate.
/r/TheRedPill21/09/15 04:36 PM
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You've got it. Let your game flow naturally and have some fun.
/r/seduction21/09/15 04:31 PM
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“You are the greatest tissue ever”. Annnddd, welcome to the friendzone.
/r/seduction21/09/15 04:26 PM
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You need to establish that you're sexually attracted to her, so yes you should be trying to at least k-close her. Don't speak to her about it, just do it through actions. Even if she's hesitant because she's inexperienced, she's gotta learn sometime so it might as well be now.
/r/seduction21/09/15 04:15 PM
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You don't need to text her everyday. You don't even have to text her until the day of the date if you don't want to. You've already been on 2 dates with her so the attractions there. Have you f-closed her yet? If you have then you definitely have nothing to worry about. If you haven't, I recommend going for it since she'll start to lose interest after a few dates with no escalation.
/r/seduction21/09/15 02:43 PM
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it was a one time thing for them If this is the case then you shouldn't worry about it.
/r/seduction21/09/15 12:36 PM
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Get your life in order before you think of girls. Just quoting you for emphasis.
/r/seduction21/09/15 02:51 AM
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no bullshit here Selling someone elses work for offensively low price
/r/seduction21/09/15 02:24 AM
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So I leave her place, and fret over whether I should have made a move anyways since she was so hot, even though she didn't really treat me well. If you have to ask this, just take a step back and think... Is it even worth it? Like yeah, it's cool to fuck hot women but you need to realize your self worth and not let any girl walk over you. It sounded like you played the nice guy in this FR; never invest more than the girl. I would just stop putting forth any effort. I wouldn't try texting her at …
/r/seduction21/09/15 02:22 AM
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It hurts to talk slower? What? Just keep practicing it until it becomes second nature.
/r/seduction21/09/15 02:12 AM
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"alpha fuck ass steroids MACHO" Is that fuck ass or ass steroids?
/r/seduction21/09/15 12:11 AM
3

Unless you're a method actor I don't think this is easily achievable.
/r/seduction20/09/15 11:12 PM
2

There's no harm in trying if you had no indicators that she absolutely wasn't interested. If she really has a boyfriend she might not want to, but I have reason to believe she DGAF. I'd wait a week or two then send her a message and tell her you guys should get some drinks.
/r/seduction20/09/15 07:04 PM
1

Get jacked and no one will fuck with you. I know plenty of short dudes who kill it. Also I'm pretty sure Tom Cruise is around your height, if you need an example of the insignificance of height.
/r/seduction20/09/15 06:59 PM
1

You shouldn't be asking her on date if you just want a FWB, that's something couples do. You've just gotta chill like friends and then fuck when you can. we aren't going to have sex tonight This might as well be her saying you're having sex. If you ever hear a girl say that, just play it off as "Of course we're not having sex tonight" And then keep escalating. It's all about maintaining that frame my man.
/r/seduction20/09/15 06:55 PM
3

Then you better become one highly attractive man. I'm talking looking great, rich, high status, etc.
/r/seduction20/09/15 06:49 PM
3

If she was kissing your neck, that's all you need to care about. What she says doesn't really matter, it's her actions. She might have seemed like she didn't know what she wanted because you weren't reciprocating which could throw her off.
/r/seduction20/09/15 06:45 PM
1

There wouldn't be any competition. If you have that kind of status they would just come to you. If by getting the best girls you mean equally as established people (Like actresses, pop stars, etc.), it might be a little bit harder.
/r/seduction20/09/15 06:43 PM
2

i didn't always return every move. Always escalate, always. If she's moving quickly then go with it.
/r/seduction20/09/15 06:30 PM
3

Say something witty and make her laugh, then continue with a conversation.
/r/seduction20/09/15 06:27 PM
9

Don't worry too much about getting it on, just have fun and see what comes of it.
/r/seduction20/09/15 06:25 PM
1

You're right; it doesn't matter what you say, it's how you say it. The bottom line is, all you need to do is not break frame.
/r/seduction20/09/15 06:12 PM
1

Try to f-close next time and see if they still ignore you.
/r/seduction19/09/15 08:51 PM
4

If you're on a bed with her she's probably expecting some escalation from you. Just keep kino'ing and taking it as far as possible.
/r/seduction19/09/15 08:49 PM
1

Lol he was full of it. Some people might not call them shit tests, but women most certainly try to throw shit at you to try to make you break frame.
/r/seduction19/09/15 08:48 PM
1

Kino, escalate. If she rejects you, don't keep talking to her.
/r/seduction19/09/15 08:32 PM
3

My mind is like, "What the fuck?", but my penis is like "LEEEEEROY JEEEENNKIINNNSS". Sweet jesus.
/r/seduction19/09/15 08:30 PM
1

Yup it's ASD and just another shit test.
/r/seduction19/09/15 08:28 PM
1

Greeting her with a hug isn't a bad idea, and it's easy kino. But I wouldn't treat her like she's your girlfriend, just have fun and let the night develop naturally.
/r/seduction19/09/15 08:20 PM
3

It depends on the context, tone, etc. Tough to judge from just a post. You could've said "Okay cool, let's go" then try to lead her out of the party to test her.
/r/seduction19/09/15 08:18 PM
2

Fuckin' A.
/r/seduction19/09/15 08:15 PM
5

the fact that she cheated shows that she found someone better than you. I agree with the first half of your post, but this part I just cannot agree with. If a chick is a slut, she might cheat just because she's a slut. Sometimes it has nothing to do with you and everything with her.
/r/seduction19/09/15 08:14 PM
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I fully agree with you. If a girl ever cheats, you leave her instantly and don't ever look back. Don't freak out on her (let her control your emotions), don't get violent, just be a man and walk away.
/r/seduction19/09/15 08:12 PM
1

It so nice once you get in that zone of just not caring. You just let it happen... It being everything; the situation, the conversation, everything. I went out last night and I was outside having a smoke with my friend and there was 2 girls next to us. I literally just walked up to them and was like "Hey do you guys know where the good bars are around here?" I did not care at all about finding any good bars. Long story short, they invited us to a house party, and one of my boys ended up hooking …
/r/seduction19/09/15 07:24 PM
1

That's a good point. Calibration is certainly key here.
/r/seduction18/09/15 11:38 PM
1

Haha shit, my bad. Just have fun with it, it'll be a good time.
/r/seduction18/09/15 11:37 PM
1

That's awesome that Sedditors are meeting up to practice game. When you're talking to a girl (Or any person in general, I recommend practicing this before applying it infield), focus hard on being present in the moment. A way I do this is by trying to see the interaction from their perspective. Listen to what they have to say and truly to understand where they're coming from. This takes the pressure completely off you. You stop worrying about what to say, or how you're body is positioned, shit l…
/r/seduction18/09/15 07:33 PM
1

It doesn't matter at this point. She seemed to respond fine to it so you shouldn't be worrying about it. Not my approach on talking to girls, but hey it worked! Just have fun on that date and show her how fucking suave of a man you are.
/r/seduction18/09/15 07:20 PM
1

and is complimenting her early on really a good idea? Depends on the girl. Do not compliment really attractive girls on their looks because they're used to it and it makes you look desperate.
/r/seduction18/09/15 07:17 PM
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It would be bitter sweet. If you're "waiting" for girls to chase you, you're still being somewhat outcome dependent on them coming to you. The best thing to do is to just focus on yourself, and try to have as much fun as you can in this short life. I like the chase honestly, makes it interesting. Would get old after a while if you could just point to girl and that was that.
/r/seduction18/09/15 07:14 PM
2

Ask her if she wants to study... Deez nuts. No but for real, kino and escalate. Put your intentions out there.
/r/seduction18/09/15 07:10 PM
2

Already checked it out, thanks though man. :)
/r/seduction18/09/15 07:08 PM
1

the girl and I would be having a boring convo (I'd be stuck in interview mode cause she didn't have very interesting replies) and again, would stop replying for a couple of hours. Think about this from her point of view. It would be very boring from her perspective. Stop texting so much and concentrate on you.
/r/seduction18/09/15 04:57 PM
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I thought about this both ways, and it doesn't really make sense either way. If you're on a date with a bartender, I'm assuming it's not while she's working. Which in that case, it doesn't really matter that she's a bartender. If you're on a date and then flirt with a bartender, you're probably going to have a bad date.
/r/seduction18/09/15 04:44 PM
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I love you. The 2nd one about kissing too much is spot on, definitely a cool technique to try.
/r/seduction18/09/15 04:24 PM
2

I wont be home till sometime tomorrow.
/r/seduction18/09/15 04:18 PM
6

Read a little bit of game theory. GO OUT AND PRACTICE IT. Analyze what went wrong. (Write it down, post a FR, go over it mentally, etc.) Even if it went great there's always room for improvement. Research on how to improve your weaknesses from your previous analysis. GO OUT AND PRACTICE IT. Repeat.
/r/seduction18/09/15 02:28 PM
7

"if you ever do that again then we're not talking anymore" I cringed at this myself. NOT HUGGING IS SERIOUS SHIT BRO
/r/seduction18/09/15 02:24 PM
18

Anyone wanna be fucking amazing and TL;DR the 5 key rules? I'm at work so I can't watch the vid but I'd love to check this out.
/r/seduction18/09/15 02:22 PM
2

Think Good Cop Bad Cop. Literally last night I was playing beer pong and before the game started this one girl really wanted to be on my team. I joked like I was hoping for a different partner, or that she wasn't good enough. She said things during the game like "I can't believe you wanted someone else to be on your team!" But then I would do things like hold my hand out longer when she handed me a ball and she would slowly slide her hand on mine, as if we were about to hold hands. That paired w…
/r/seduction18/09/15 12:35 PM
1

I don't think it'd be a good idea to have the person's story narrated by that original person. If they have a boring, non-energetic voice the video could be ruined. If you have the same person narrating every video - and hopefully they have a unique voice - it will give the series a voice for people to relate your videos to. Think of Planet Earth with that one British dude.
/r/seduction18/09/15 12:29 PM
1

First come first serve. If he went after her first, let him do his thing. If he can't pull it off, show him how its done. There's plenty to go around.
/r/seduction18/09/15 02:40 AM
3

The Mammoth as a metaphor is fucking perfect; it's a massive, powerful entity with a huge presence, so it's going to have a huge influence on you. That's why it's so hard to tame it, but it has to be done.
/r/seduction18/09/15 02:39 AM
1

Sounds like a '60s pornstar.
/r/seduction18/09/15 12:08 AM
1

This exactly. OP keep doing you, you're doing fine.
/r/seduction18/09/15 12:03 AM
1

That's not a bad idea at all, I know some recovering alcoholics apply the same tactic. I just can't do that. I'm in my early 20s, I like to drink, and it unfortunately does help my game. My problem is I need to learn to just hit a buzz and maintain it, which has been the bane of my existence so far. Just gotta practice I suppose!
/r/TheRedPill17/09/15 12:19 PM
1

Well I would first bring more friends and just concentrate on having fun, we were definitely going there with the intentions of getting girls. It was still fun, but it could have been more fun. But now I would look for IOIs and then open with something else besides "Wanna dance?"
/r/seduction17/09/15 12:18 PM
1

Yeah, that's definitely a good point. I'm actually pretty damn good when I'm hammered, but I don't want it to be a crutch so lately I've been trying to just maintain a buzz. (And failing miserably honestly)
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 09:16 PM
1

Post a pic and I'll be the judge of that. If you do, then congratulations my friend. Game is going to be a blast for you.
/r/seduction16/09/15 09:07 PM
1

This was far before I knew about Seddit or even pickup at all... Fresh out of high school I would go to clubs with my brother. We actually had the basics down, (Dress well, good cologne, good hygiene, etc.) but we just had no idea how to approach. I would literally walk up to a girl and be like, "Would you like to dance?" and get shut down every time. I don't remember ever actually getting a girl to dance. So most of the time I was one of those Beta dudes just creeping on the wall. I cringe at t…
/r/seduction16/09/15 08:15 PM
2

I wish I had your self control. Once I get in that zone I can't help but get that attitude of "Ahh what's one more beer gonna do?"
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 08:06 PM
3

Well it definitely did just that lol. I sat there for a bit and thought about it.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 02:30 PM
1

I am about 3/4 of the way through this book and it might be one of the best books I've ever read.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 02:24 PM
2

Sort of random, but how much would you drink on an average night?
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 02:23 PM
7

Mosh pits and tits? You basically lived my fantasy. Awesome FR man.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 02:09 PM
2

I second this book recommendation. It sets the stage on how to be a confident man, not just in relation to TRP.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 01:50 PM
1

So basically, if someone offers you something and you accept it, you're entering their frame? Then they of course have control of you. I didn't understand the "To whom does the gift belong?" line, but that makes much more sense.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 01:48 PM
2

Sounds funny to say, but if you treat them as equals and just start a conversation, like you would a friend or acquaintance, you are heading in the right direction. The truth behind this is so strong it's so frightening. You could approach a HB 9 and she could be as dumb as a box of rocks. You're approaching them to see how they are as a person and if you like them. If you do like them, escalate and close. If not, it was nice meeting them and you move on with your day.
/r/seduction16/09/15 12:41 PM
1

Hitting On Damn girl, I'll take one of you with nothing on it! Flirting says something funny You have such a great smile.
/r/seduction16/09/15 12:35 PM
1

Should've talked to her for a bit. Get her comfortable around you, then number close.
/r/seduction16/09/15 12:32 PM
3

If you're talking about a girl flaking, I'll give her maybe 2 chances. Unless the first one was a really bad excuse then I probably just wont get a hold of her again, I wouldn't delete her number per say. As far as texting goes, I only text her once and if she doesn't respond that's that, I don't try texting again.
/r/seduction16/09/15 12:29 PM
2

I start telling her I'm sorry and that I was more than just some horny dude. This was a definite no-no. You don't apologize to her and break frame just to try to make her happy. You wanted sex, she wanted to take it slowly, oh well. Don't be needy, cut contact and move on my man, it'll be fine.
/r/seduction16/09/15 12:24 PM
1

Oh I'm aware, that's how it is everywhere really.
/r/seduction16/09/15 12:17 PM
1

If she actually was crying, then by all means you did the right thing. Are you still in contact with this girl? You're in a good place to hook up with her next time. I think the only thing else you could be working on is getting more girls, because all you lack now is experience. You've got the tools at hand but it's time to use them.
/r/seduction16/09/15 12:15 PM
1

some background Keyword: some. I'm not saying to not read at all, I'm saying it's more beneficial to read a little bit (I'm talking PUA theory, not self-improvement books) and actually try it out infield.
/r/seduction16/09/15 12:11 PM
1

"No, I think I was hoping for one thing but didn't think about it. It is a personal thing." Now at this point my boner is dead. I say, "Whatever" and back away. You did it perfectly the first time she threw up some LMR, by agreeing and then amplifying, (grazing her leg) but why on earth did you freeze her out the second time? You should've done what you did the first time and just pump the brakes a bit, then go back for it. If it doesn't work, then you freeze her out. And when you freeze her out…
/r/seduction16/09/15 02:13 AM
2

Get sexual my man. Kino, escalate, take the lead.
/r/seduction16/09/15 02:05 AM
1

"did you not get my text? I was in the hospital you don't have to be a bitch about it." You should never lose your cool when dealing with a girl. Shows that you're low value and you let her control your frame. Best thing you could have done? Completely ignored the text. You should cut contact with her and approach more girls. If she's still interested, let her come to you and stop worrying about it. You'll look needy if you continue to text her and do what ever you can to get her to talk to you.
/r/seduction16/09/15 02:00 AM
7

Because when the average dude hears "looks matter" he thinks that if he doesn't look like fucking Henry Cavill he'll never get laid. Looks help a lot, there's no beating around the bush. It's like taking steroids for a bodybuilder, that's just the way it is. But confidence and the ability to just be yourself are much higher on what truly matters. You can be butt ugly and still pull girls if you just don't give a fuck. The goal is to be the absolute best version of you that you can be. Even if yo…
/r/seduction16/09/15 01:54 AM
8

Not gonna lie, I stalked your profile. Holy fuck.
/r/seduction16/09/15 01:49 AM
1

In my experience, winning over the friends makes everything easier. I agree. It's much easier to escalate with one girl if both of them are on your side. Cockblockers make me sad.
/r/seduction16/09/15 01:40 AM
0

Women respect a man who knows what he wants, not one whose afraid of saying the wrong thing. Take chances my man.
/r/seduction16/09/15 01:10 AM
4

It's a guy who is constantly trying to surround himself around a girl because he wants to get in her pants. Don't be that guy.
/r/seduction16/09/15 12:59 AM
9

Do NOT spend every waking second trying to please her. Do not give her all of your attention and she'll think you're a man of high value. Show her that you're a guy who likes to have fun, and you're not an orbiter. Talk to as many people as you can, and slowly kino and escalate with her over time. If you can seal the deal ASAP with her, you'll be in the clear. But MOST importantly... Have fun! :)
/r/seduction16/09/15 12:30 AM
1

It's not so much advice but the general idea that people think you need to read, read, read. Read everything. I agree you need to be reading to increase your knowledge but getting real, actual experience is far more important.
/r/seduction16/09/15 12:26 AM
5

I try to be respectful and a gentleman around anyone I meet. How much of a gentlemen are you being? If you're playing the nice guy you're gonna finish last. You need to act like you know what you want, and then take it. If you haven't already, you should read No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover.
/r/seduction16/09/15 12:20 AM
1

I definitely plan on moving sooner than later in my life. But the town has around 4,000 people so it's not a ghost town but I'm not exactly working with the cream of the crop here.
/r/seduction15/09/15 11:57 PM
1

I don't understand your question.
/r/seduction15/09/15 11:55 PM
1

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. The closest semi large city is about an hour away and that's just not reasonable for me to do on a weekday after work. I think I'll to do some gaming when I pick up groceries or something, because that's most likely my best bet.
/r/seduction15/09/15 08:14 PM
6

Approaching women in the mall dressed like a Buddhist Monk This is the kind of shit that needs to be recorded.
/r/seduction15/09/15 07:28 PM
2

Should've said, "Well the search continues..."
/r/seduction15/09/15 01:39 PM
1

To take it beyond just doing the hobby, they should be someone you actually like. I wouldn't try to make friends just for sake of making friends. But once you get to know them a little better, I would add them on fb and message them or text them, maybe bullshit a little bit, then see if they'd like to hang out sometime. Maybe you got a knew piece of equipment from your hobby that you think they'd like to check out. Friends don't need much reasoning to hang out.
/r/seduction15/09/15 12:19 PM
1

Ohh, gotcha. Basically what you're saying is to internalize the reasons why the things he's saying are invalid. That I can do, and I actually think I do a little bit of this already.
/r/askTRP15/09/15 12:13 PM
1

Be really really nice and sweet to the girls. They'll quickly just be your friend Well it's kind of true. It's taking the reason why guys get friendzoned and then purposefully doing it.
/r/seduction15/09/15 02:08 AM
1

You're absolutely right, if a guy is used to saying the wrong things and the girls aren't positively responding, it's time for a change. It's unfortunately on him to realize that he needs to change, and take action. The end goal however is to not have to think about what to say.
/r/seduction15/09/15 01:55 AM
1

Thank you for the helpful advice. Upvoted out of respect. I wasn't really planning on getting a hold of her again, but in a week or two I'll see where I'm at. I definitely need to game more girls, this is evident. I really have been focusing on myself more so than girls, which probably explains why I seem overly invested in this girl. I gamed her a week or two ago and she just kind of appeared out of no where, so I was hoping to capitalize on the situation.
/r/askTRP15/09/15 01:14 AM
1

I really suck at these metaphorical quotes... What does he mean by "the enemy"? Is it supposed to be like an obstacle you face in life?
/r/seduction15/09/15 12:46 AM
1

You're cracking me up. I dig your style man.
/r/askTRP15/09/15 12:45 AM
1

Oh... OHHHHHH.
/r/askTRP15/09/15 12:41 AM
2

Bartendresses never say no to the Catholic hole. I honestly have no idea what that means lol. I will however keep her on the back burner in case the time seems right.
/r/askTRP15/09/15 12:37 AM
1

Haha I love it, you literally know next to nothing about me, yet you doubt what I'm capable of. It's obvious I came here asking for advice, I never claimed to be a fucking pimp or something. If it makes you feel better to take it out on people you think are lower than you, please by all means, have at it my man. I'll be off working on myself and continuing to learn.
/r/askTRP15/09/15 12:32 AM
2

But it was obvious it was my fault lol. She got out of work at 3:30, called me and told me she had to drop off a friend then she'd call again so I could tell her how to get to her apartment. I fell asleep in the 12 minutes it took her to call me back. (Had a missed call from her at 3:42) I doubt I'll even get a hold of her again, but if I do I like the idea of playing it off as if she was too late and I fell asleep lol. It's kind of dickish but it's actually right up my alley style-wise.
/r/askTRP15/09/15 12:21 AM
1

Hahah you're just saying whatever for the sake of argument. If I want to say a bunch of random irrelevant shit, I will say a bunch of random irrelevant shit. If I want to say only 1 word to her, I will only say 1 word. I won't ever think "damn, what should I say that will make her like me more?" and then reply with something I wouldn't normally say.
/r/seduction15/09/15 12:11 AM
3

Obtain cool hobbies and meet people doing said hobbies. Working out, music/playing an instrument, (Playing in a band is very networking heavy) art, rock climbing, etc. I have met some awesome people from these things. (Minus rock climbing, I have never done it but I would like to try it sometime and I know a few people that are in to it.) A good way to befriend someone doing these things is to go up to them and compliment them on their skill then build a conversation off of that. If you befriend…
/r/seduction15/09/15 12:04 AM
1

How on earth do you come to the conclusion that you lack empathy by being yourself? Obviously you don't just say a bunch of random irrelevant shit, you calibrate to the situation while maintaining your frame.
/r/seduction14/09/15 11:47 PM
37

Reminds me of the old school pickup line that goes like, "Are you as interesting as you look?" That's all I have to say because I literally have 0 Tinder experience lol.
/r/seduction14/09/15 11:39 PM
2

Club game also allows you to get extra close, so in your case lean in real close and tell her to come with you to another part of the club so you guys can talk. You can see PUAs like RSD Tyler doing this in their vids. They pull the girl in close and talk in their ear.
/r/seduction14/09/15 11:36 PM
3

It really is annoying to see these posts with stupid titles like "How to fuck every girl you ever meet" or something similar. I think we all want genuine articles that aren't just cliche clickbait. Fuck, I'd rather read "4 decent body language tips" over "4 body language "hacks"" But maybe that's because I understand there's no shortcuts.
/r/seduction14/09/15 11:33 PM
3

If you think you need to text something other than what you really want to, you're being needy and seeking approval to try to make yourself look better. A confident male isn't afraid to be himself, even if some people won't like it.
/r/seduction14/09/15 11:28 PM
1

You're right, I shouldn't assume things based off of one post. It however, is still 15th on the Hot posts section. (70% upvoted) It's hard to say it's not a popular opinion. I have never seen a negative post about NoFap in the Hot posts in /r/seduction. It doesn't bother me that people will talk down on pickup, I'm just glad we don't talk down on other subs ourselves.
/r/seduction14/09/15 11:25 PM
1

I'm not about to get that argumentative with him. If I find reasons for why everything he says is invalid, it will be a shit storm. Trust me, he's never wrong.
/r/askTRP14/09/15 11:15 PM
2

There's such things as unhealthy relationships my friend.
/r/seduction14/09/15 11:12 PM
1

I texted her apologizing for passing out yesterday morning, and haven't heard from her nor have I messaged her since. I was already partying, I didn't deliberately wait around for her. When she called me when she got out of work, I was just starting to wind down. I don't think I should try setting something up again, wouldn't that seem needy? I was just going to do me and see if she would come back.
/r/askTRP14/09/15 08:05 PM
1

I wouldn't text her again. It's apparent she's not interested. The alpha thing to do would be to understand she's not interested and keep gaming other girls.
/r/seduction14/09/15 08:01 PM
1

Yeah, you're definitely right. Fuck, I guess I was just pissed because it was all right there, everything was set up. I'm not even really worried about the girl so much as I am mad at myself for passing out. It's like when a basketball player has an open lane for a slam dunk with absolutely no one around, and he misses it.
/r/askTRP14/09/15 07:52 PM
1

Don't pressure her. Game other women and put her in rank based on her actions. I don't want to pressure her at all. I just wanted to know how to handle the situation if she texts me or something. Basically I should just do me and if she gets ahold of me, then pursue right? I'm not sure how I'm lazy if I'm already going out, hitting the gym everyday, reading, continuing my hobbies/passions, etc...
/r/askTRP14/09/15 07:43 PM
1

Oh I have no shame in admitting I've got a long way to go. Also I said "potential" plate, I know she's not a plate. So no advice, just want to take shots?
/r/askTRP14/09/15 07:38 PM
2

In other words, I wasn't comfortable or enjoying myself anymore. If you weren't enjoying yourself, you made the absolute right call by leaving. That's awesome because you're not going to do something you don't want to because you're not needy. The problem with cockblockers is they can absolutely ruin the process for you. You have 2 options with them. 1) Try to win them over like you did with the first two girls. 2) Completely ignore their shots as if they don't exist. It can seem a little needy …
/r/seduction14/09/15 07:31 PM
2

Awesome, thanks. I think I'm going to give this a shot next time and see what happens, I love the idea behind it.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 07:25 PM
3

You don't get any sort of rebuttal for using such a minimalistic response? I'm a big proponent of text game being pretty pointless, but I feel like saying "nice" to every text is a good way to make it seem like you're not that interesting. I mean no offense, and I'd love to adopt such an approach if it really works.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 07:12 PM
3

I don't know how much over 25 she is, (I just know she's 25) but a girl I've been seeing actually called me the other day, which I thought was weird.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/15 06:59 PM
1

I would first plan it as if we were meeting each other there. If things go bad, she can leave at anytime. With that being said, it's no big deal to pick her up if that's what needs to be done.
/r/seduction14/09/15 06:41 PM
1

It’s better to try your hardest to seduce a girl into bed, rather than spending a lot of time and effort becoming her best friend in the hope that she will one day be yours. This is more important than the idea that you need to "sleep with her ASAP". Just letting your intentions be known will keep you out of the friendzone. The best case scenario is obviously to sleep with her, though.
/r/seduction14/09/15 06:28 PM
2

So I said, "Alright, let's go!". I ended up leading them to the dance floor and we started dancing. Other people joined in almost immediately. This was a great move. It sounded like you received some good IOI's but you didn't really escalate past the early, friendly type of kino. You should've isolated one (or both if you're that confident) of the girls and escalated as far as possible. Them inviting you along was a huge IOI. And they waited outside for you? I'm not sure why you started feeling …
/r/seduction14/09/15 06:21 PM
10

Absolutely! Getting girls is just a byproduct of improving yourself.
/r/seduction14/09/15 06:12 PM
1

bought her food/drinks,etc. Oh god no, that was a mistake. Just be real with her and tell her "Look, I hate to be blunt, but I'm not really interested."
/r/seduction14/09/15 06:10 PM
2

It's funny because they'll take shots at our community and we just don't stoop to their level and talk them down. That right there is a pretty good example of what our sub is about. The guy who posted about NoFap on here the other day got a fairly reasonable response from both ends of the spectrum about.
/r/seduction14/09/15 06:03 PM
38

These are the things people need to be working on, instead of worrying about what to say to a girl, how to not be awkward, etc. Self-improvement is paramount to everything else. It's cliche but if you have to learn to love yourself.
/r/seduction14/09/15 05:56 PM
1

It'd be a sad excuse for peacocking. Not worth it my man.
/r/seduction14/09/15 05:51 PM
2

Seriously, just being present in moment will put you farther ahead than them. They're too busy trying to evaluate you to really analyze every word you say. They're going off emotion more than conversation.
/r/seduction14/09/15 05:15 PM
1

Exactly. Like /u/secondpua said, this would be a great opportunity for them to talk OP up, pumping up his SMV.
/r/seduction14/09/15 05:09 PM
2

Situational openers. These are a great way to make things flow natural, because you're literally just going off the situation as it's happening. OP, you need to get them to invest in the conversation, and then reward them when they do invest. ("I like the way you blah blah blah", basically this is when you should be kino'ing.)
/r/seduction14/09/15 05:05 PM
2

If she's giving you IOIs, absolutely approach her. Lock eyes, smile, if/when she looks away, approach her. You're not going to be going to school with her forever right? No, you're both going to graduate and go your separate ways. (Unless of course you close her) Don't worry about things getting awkward.
/r/seduction14/09/15 04:58 PM
1

I wouldn't run around bragging that you're learning pickup, most people will just instantly jump to "You're trying to be a player" because they don't understand what the community is like these days. How's your friend doing pulling girls? If he's not doing so hot I wouldn't take any advice from him. Of course you can come off as creepy to girls, but you can also just be stud and absolutely make their day. Depends on how good your game is, and that's why we practice!
/r/seduction14/09/15 04:55 PM
1

I literally posted about this exactly. It's pointless to worry about "text game."
/r/seduction14/09/15 04:46 PM
1

Not enough!
/r/seduction14/09/15 04:43 PM
1

NO Ask yourself: what would i enjoy to recieve or laugh at if i were this girl. YES What would I enjoy texting? You don't want to be in the mindset of what you have to do to impress her.
/r/seduction14/09/15 04:41 PM
2

/u/themidnightfox just posted an article that might be what you're looking for.
/r/seduction14/09/15 04:37 PM
1

Dude, you're killing it.
/r/seduction14/09/15 04:29 PM
3

That'll make his week.
/r/seduction14/09/15 03:22 PM
1

This is cool. I actually do a lot of these things already but I'll look into the things I'm not doing. Thanks.
/r/seduction14/09/15 03:05 PM
39

Not bad, I like the tip about breaking eye contact by looking to the side, not down.
/r/seduction14/09/15 03:02 PM
3

There's no need to wait. But if you're genuinely busy, don't make it your priority to respond to her ASAP.
/r/askTRP14/09/15 12:40 PM
2

Alpha Fucks/Beta bucks Basically, Alpha Fucks are the Alpha dudes who are confident and are in complete control of their own life, the ones girls want. Beta Bucks are the nice guys who are providers for the girl, who usually get shit on at some point in the relationship.
/r/askTRP14/09/15 12:37 PM
1

That's awesome that you think you went up on the look scale after improving your game. Confidence plays a huge part in everything.
/r/seduction14/09/15 12:29 PM
1

There was much more that happened but this post was already pretty long so I figured I would just post the meat and potatoes of the weekend.
/r/seduction14/09/15 12:27 PM
1

What are some good examples of body language to use in this situation?
/r/askTRP14/09/15 12:26 PM
1

He is the warehouse manager so he is techincally my supervisor. I have called him out on some of his shit but he's so persistent and honestly probably not smart enough to change his ways. I definitely plan on calling him on the dating advice next time it comes up. I'm usually just too shocked to say anything.
/r/askTRP14/09/15 12:25 PM
1

Not an option unfortunately. :( Luckily we can listen to music through speakers so at least there's not much silence.
/r/askTRP14/09/15 12:22 PM
1

How would say you are look-wise on a scale of 1 to 10?
/r/seduction14/09/15 01:18 AM
4

Why are their hands as red as that couch?
/r/seduction13/09/15 11:14 PM
2

I feel like I need a glass of wine while reading this.
/r/seduction13/09/15 11:02 PM
1

As soon as you get her warmed up to you, BOOM, isolate. Especially with cockblocking friends around. But I thinking you're looking at the night as failure rather than an adventure. You literally got better at approaching, better at kino'ing, and better at dealing with external shit. (If you can't warm them up to you, try to isolate the girl.) Just because you didn't k-close doesn't mean you didn't improve.
/r/seduction13/09/15 10:58 PM
2

All of it is your best bet.
/r/seduction13/09/15 10:50 PM
8

All I wanted was a little slap and pickle.
/r/seduction12/09/15 09:26 PM
71

Not again...
/r/seduction12/09/15 08:52 PM
20

She just wants to hook up man, I wouldn't try to plan this out too hard. You can literally just "Netflix and chill".
/r/seduction12/09/15 08:44 PM
4

They are just wanting to chill at the bar and we are going to our own thing. If she said that, that's actually a really good sign. She's planning on you two being isolated at some point. Go out and fucking kill it man.
/r/seduction11/09/15 11:11 PM
2

So you mean I'm even uglier than I think I am? :(
/r/seduction11/09/15 10:58 PM
1

I know what the usual IOI's were, I was hoping to hear what ones OP got in this particular situation. :P
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 10:31 PM
1

That's cool that you're aware of it and are trying to improve it! Once you have your voice where you want it and a chick says "Omg you have an awesome voice" you can say something witty and they'll eat it right up.
/r/seduction11/09/15 10:29 PM
12

How far did you escalate? That's pretty interesting.
/r/seduction11/09/15 07:25 PM
1

Yeah, that makes sense.
/r/seduction11/09/15 05:24 PM
1

I start getting IOI’s from an HB9 sitting next to me in a group of 5 girls. What were some of the IOI's you got from her that tipped you off?
/r/TheRedPill11/09/15 05:18 PM
1

Learn how to incorporate your diaphragm in your speech. It gives you a very airy sounding effect (If that makes sense) which is a killer. Matthew Goode in "The Lookout" is my favorite example. I did a whole post on Vocal Tonality with mp3s from The Lookout here.
/r/seduction11/09/15 01:57 PM
1

Expect much from bars. Girls who go to bars want to dance, get free drinks, and have fun with there girl friends. Yes, I've gotten lucky at random bars with random girls but I can count on one hand the amount of times that's happened. House parties in a comfortable environment are where a lot of my successes have been found. I'm surprised you didn't have much success in bars. When you pulled at a house party, did you usually try to leave the place or hook up there?
/r/seduction11/09/15 01:52 PM
2

I'd take this to /r/AskWomen.
/r/seduction11/09/15 01:43 PM
1

You're putting far too much emphasis on women. You're listing all these excuses for why girls aren't interested in you, but did not mention once what you're doing to improve. How's your style? Is your physique top notch for your self? How are your social skills? Take time to work on yourself and girls will be a byproduct.
/r/seduction11/09/15 01:38 PM
1

Do you have any hobbies? I personally I derived a bunch of my confidence from being really good at different things. And the better you are, the more confident you are. The more confident you are, the less fucks you give. Aka get some hobbies my friend.
/r/seduction11/09/15 01:35 PM
1

Does that one friend who slays have any game, or is he just incredibly good looking?
/r/seduction11/09/15 01:31 PM
1

I'm a pretty good looking guy and I got a ton of likes. Not that it really matters, but how good looking do think you are? (1-10 scale) Because it sounds the Asian chick plenty of opportunities to turn you down, and you got a bunch of matches on Tinder.
/r/seduction11/09/15 01:24 PM
14

Even a broken watch is right twice a day. thinks about it for a second nod of approval
/r/seduction11/09/15 01:22 PM
3

For real, OP could do it for the humor, seeing as he doesn't have any plans on seeing her again.
/r/seduction11/09/15 01:20 PM
2

That's awesome, I never saw them in such a way.
/r/seduction10/09/15 01:45 AM
2

How are jeans a hobby if you don't mind me asking? I mean like what part about them
/r/seduction10/09/15 12:34 AM
2

Being somewhat musically talented with an instrument is a panty dropper.
/r/seduction10/09/15 12:33 AM
16

You know you're doing alright when your face is on money.
/r/seduction09/09/15 11:33 PM
3

This is literally what I say as well. There is no girl on earth is flawless physically and personality wise, therefore there are no 10s. Most accurate scale I've seen to date.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/15 02:44 PM
3

It's not about getting over someone, it's about acknowledging it's over and accepting it for what it is. (AKA Moving on) You're going to be sad, you're going to be angry, but you've just got to accept it. Pour your energy into a hobbie or passion; you'll come out on top. Concentrate on self-improvement and I promise you, you'll be just fine.
/r/seduction09/09/15 01:31 PM
1

There's reason for that. :p
/r/seduction09/09/15 01:22 PM
3

idk what your thinking but we cant date.... That's an instant next in my book. You're wasting your time with her. You'll look better if you just let her go and cut off contact and go after other girls. Shows you're not needy. Plus you're only in high school so don't get so down about girls.
/r/seduction09/09/15 01:20 PM
1

It's good to be aware that you have oneitis and are needy, but you should do something about and not just acknowledge it. I know if I pursued it I could start dating this girl again. It honestly doesn't sound you can. You tried setting something up at the one point and she kept flaking, and you kept texting her seeking her approval. I don't think you should "restart" this, but to each his own. It can be a learning experience.
/r/seduction09/09/15 01:16 PM
3

Nothing wrong with giving it a shot, you might get to know her better and find out that you do like her.
/r/seduction09/09/15 01:13 PM
2

This is good and all, but it doesn't really sound like you're into this girl. I wouldn't lead her on if you're not interested.
/r/seduction09/09/15 12:39 PM
1

People are way too busy posting the next great inspirational quote on facebook to care about your personal journey. "If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best!"
/r/seduction09/09/15 12:36 PM
2

"You're a sweet guy. thank you". This might as well be the welcome message for the friendzone. You're being needy af. She seemed pretty into it but kept flaking. After a couple weeks of texts/calls It's also clear you have oneitis. I was hurt by this girl You're hoping to shimmy your way into her pants by being a nice guy. I feel like a little bitch because I was hurt by this girl now shes leaving her relationship and im just here waiting for her and welcoming her. The alpha move in this situati…
/r/seduction09/09/15 12:33 PM
1

"So what made it work?" "I just wanted it, it had nothing to do with you" Hahah
/r/seduction09/09/15 01:13 AM
6

He's definitely got an advantage with the looks. But also, he seems very smart and recommended some good books which, obviously he was big on reading. Dude's got it. I'd love to see some infield vids of him.
/r/seduction09/09/15 12:55 AM
2

I saw the girl come from around the corner and I thought to myself, "One of them has to call that out." Was not disappointed. She looked fineee
/r/seduction09/09/15 12:53 AM
9

Get up to get a drink/take a whiz. Touch her thigh, like you're getting her attention. "Hey, I'll be right back." Squeeze, grin, walk away. God damn it why am I not doing this.
/r/seduction09/09/15 12:34 AM
3

Idk, sounds fishy
/r/seduction08/09/15 05:21 PM
2

Haha not really, 2nd page submission history brah
/r/seduction08/09/15 04:44 PM
4

...
/r/seduction08/09/15 12:38 PM
1

No, absolutely not. I wouldn't recommend trying it.
/r/seduction08/09/15 12:27 PM
0

I am comfortable with keno, with girls. But getting physical with a dude (Not in a sexual way) is an easy way to start what could be a fight.
/r/seduction08/09/15 12:26 PM
1

RSD Todd put it in a pretty good way, sort of categorizing girls based off the age and their expectations at that time. It pretty much went like this: Ages 18-~21 - Girls at this age are usually still 'protected' by their parents and aren't on their own so they're a little more defensive. (Yet at the same time, they are more naive and rebellious.) Ages ~21-~30 - This is were most girls are on their own so they're not restricted to expectations and rules, they're usually more emotional, and they …
/r/seduction08/09/15 12:06 AM
5

That's a big plus therein of itself. You're essentially humblebragging in a way that's not douchey or stuck up; an excellent way to raise your SMV.
/r/seduction07/09/15 11:55 PM
1

I second that on just going out and meeting cool people. Look out for dudes that are pulling PUA style moves and see if you can't talk to them about it. Walk up and be like, "How'd it go trying to talk to that girl?" If they look at you weird they probably know nothing about PUA, but you'll know if they a little bit about it because let's face, all of us would love to talk about game.
/r/seduction07/09/15 11:51 PM
1

Yes, this exactly. She won't want to hear the whole "you changed my life" bullshit because in all honesty, she didn't. YOU changed your lifestyle completely on your own will power. Ask her out if you'd like and show her a good time. (Keeping in mind that the goal is for to just have fun)
/r/seduction07/09/15 11:47 PM
1

"If I flip a coin, what are my chances of getting head?" It's field tested I swear.
/r/seduction07/09/15 11:35 PM
16

He's actually pretty normal looking. (By the way, awesome job on the transformation OP!)
/r/seduction07/09/15 11:30 PM
2

Being an interesting guy that would embellish her life at the moment. Asking a girl an open ended question is an example of one of the many ways to make a girl invest. She responds with something about her which makes her invest in the conversation. People are more interested in things they are invested in. (Think money, sports, gambling, etc.)
/r/seduction07/09/15 11:27 PM
3

Can you give an example of how the conversation went when you explained briefly that you have your own business? Having your own business is a very, very good thing to have in the seduction world.
/r/seduction07/09/15 11:23 PM
2

Is this the one? That shoulder pat dismissal seems like a good way to make confrontation physical real fast. I don't think I would touch anyone I don't know, or someone I wouldn't want to get in a fight with. Is a pretty alpha move though.
/r/seduction07/09/15 11:19 PM
5

Nice, "I wanna be loud". That's actually a really good way to follow up on her shit test about why you couldn't go back to your place.
/r/seduction07/09/15 11:11 PM
2

I can't say that I agree with the whole "You are above her, she is beneath you" thing. That's the type of shit that gives pickup (and men in general) a bad rep. Make your goal to have fun, shouldn't have anything to do with being better than anyone else. (AMOGs can be an exception)
/r/seduction07/09/15 11:08 PM
8

Wow you must have sparked something strong in her, because there were so many opportunities for her to reject you. We reached the point where we were to part ways, my place was pretty close by and she knew where it was - I recall her saying 'oh you're lucky your place is so close by'. I said something like 'yeh'. I cringed a little at that, she might as well have said "Ask me to come over." But for real, awesome job rebounding on this one man. Sounds like you had a blast and I bet you learned a …
/r/seduction07/09/15 10:56 PM
3

Again the acquaintance tried to butt in, I let him, there was a pretty girl I wanted to talk to. Take the mentality you had at that moment, and it apply it to now. You had no problem walking away from something you didn't necessarily want, so you should be able to do that with these thoughts about how this girl feels. I personally wouldn't text her, but if she's at that party you mentioned in your reply to /u/katalis, I would just shrug off as if nothing happened because in all reality, it's not…
/r/seduction07/09/15 10:49 PM
6

So many highlights in this post, good job man. Giving her 3 options for the date was an awesome move. Chocolate Bar? That is a chick crack factory. Awesome job on the kino and escalating, going from putting your hand on your back to holding hands, etc. And her flipping the kiss on the cheek on you? The girl wants it dude. Sounds like it went really well but was there anything you felt you could've/should've done different?
/r/seduction07/09/15 10:34 PM
1

I've also heard stories of girls stealing the guys money/camera/laptop after a ONS which is why i lock my stuff up before leaving to go out. Is there a term for this? There was a scene about it in the movie Focus.
/r/seduction07/09/15 10:22 PM
2

For real, that dude knew his shit.
/r/seduction07/09/15 10:14 PM
3

What was your method for persuading the girls to go back to their place?
/r/seduction07/09/15 10:10 PM
1

So what if we continue doing our thing and then she asks me what I expect to get out of this relationship? At that point would I just tell her about how I just want to have fun with no strings attached?
/r/seduction07/09/15 09:56 PM
1

Solid 8, not bad my man. I might even give her an 8.5 for that cute af voice.
/r/seduction07/09/15 03:54 PM
1

You felt bad because a girl wanted to kiss you? You are just scared my friend, there's nothing to feel bad about in this situation. You should feel bad about denying the girl the kiss if she really wanted it. (Which I have to reason to doubt) If you're lying to a girl or doing anything shady to get her to fuck, then you should start feeling guilty.
/r/seduction07/09/15 02:51 PM
3

She sounds pretty flaky man. Me: Alright then: here's a compromise. We go away from work to a mildly lit place, grab a cup of coffee and I tousle your hair there. Interested? Her: Lol I like my hair the way it is :) :) Doesn't sound like she's very interested, her response gives me an "I'm good" vibe. She also actually never said yes, she said "I'm not sure yet I'll let you know though." Which is very flaky, unless she really is unsure of her schedule. I think the general consensus in /r/seducti…
/r/seduction07/09/15 02:46 PM
6

This should give you an idea
/r/seduction07/09/15 02:28 PM
2

Doesn't it sound like a bad idea to not convey my expectations to her? Or are you basically saying to show her what I expect through actions and repetition?
/r/seduction07/09/15 02:22 PM
8

If he left with his arm around around one of the girls, chances are it was his girl and you tried moving in on her and her friends. Also, if shit gets physical, there's no point in continuing trying to make a move; just know you overstepped your boundaries and let them do their thing. And why would you try to get him kicked out of the club? He didn't do anything wrong. I try and be friendly to him, and act as the bigger man in front of them. He literally just doesn't acknowledge me and shoulder …
/r/seduction07/09/15 02:17 PM
1

Absolutely this. OP you've gotta let them know what your intentions are ASAP otherwise you get friendzoned quicker than a fly on shit.
/r/seduction07/09/15 02:08 PM
2

How so?
/r/seduction07/09/15 03:51 AM
1

Haha yeah, that's why it's 'in the works'. Definitely going for a F-close next time to seal the deal.
/r/seduction07/09/15 01:04 AM
2

I'm seeing so many red flags from my own side after posting this haha. We held hands a few times when we were walking, but I initiated it so hopefully she was just going with it and not taking it as a sign. When you establish that you just want to be FWB with a guy, how does the conversation usually go?
/r/seduction06/09/15 11:51 PM
0

Yeah, I want nothing to do with leading her on. I even feel kinda bad now about trying to escalate in front of everyone, because I don't want that kind of relationship. I would've been fine with not even touching each other and then letting loose when we were isolated, but those weren't my instincts at the time. I'm totally cool with being honest, as long as it sets the stage for the relationship.
/r/seduction06/09/15 11:42 PM
1

Awesome, that's clear cut and exactly what I needed to hear. I'll put it to the test soon enough.
/r/seduction06/09/15 11:28 PM
1

I was definitely planning on having 'that talk' with her next time we hang out. I guess I'll have to pump the brakes next time, cause I can understand the whole idea that doing all that stuff is usually a relationship thing. I've never attempted to establish a FWB so my instincts were to just escalate like normal. I don't want to lead her on like I want a relationship then have the FWB talk, so thanks for the heads up. Edit: What's a good way to go about telling her about what my expectations ar…
/r/seduction06/09/15 11:21 PM
3

A) She's just toying with you to try to hook you in as an orbiter, and is embarrassed to be seen being affectionate toward you in public (see: Patrice O'Neal on being a time ho). Holy shit, I like that man's style. What are some indicators of a girl trying to make a dude an orbiter? Cause I want nothing to do with that, luckily my situation isn't like that dude in the videos. She wasn't a friend for years or anything, and she's well aware of my intentions. I'll try to F-close the next chance I g…
/r/seduction06/09/15 11:03 PM
5

I truly mean no offense, but that doesn't really have anything to do with what I'm asking
/r/seduction06/09/15 10:31 PM
1

He's not trying to bring you down man. All he's saying is that you probably didn't learn/feel much because you were 'piss drunk'. It's awesome you lost virginity. When you have sex sober for the first time you'll get more out of it. I do think you'll be more confident cause you won't have that "Ive never gotten laid" mentality anymore.
/r/seduction06/09/15 09:28 PM
3

I wanna see that first girl because her voice is heavenly.
/r/seduction06/09/15 09:06 PM
1

Christian Bale in the Dark Knight trilogy was actually a pretty exceptional character as far as a confident male goes. He's incredibly successful, he get's women because he demonstrates SMV left and right, (Throwing massive fundraisers, big parties, spends his money in ways to make the right people jealous, etc.) is really talented, incredibly smart, loves his friends and family, is charming, witty, etc. He's actually very cocky in a lot of scenes which only adds to his persona. (Not necessarily…
/r/seduction18/08/15 11:22 PM
2

Repetition is your friend. Keep having awkward sex until you become more comfortable with your sexuality. Watching amateur porn isn't a bad idea if you're using it as a learning device.
/r/seduction18/08/15 11:10 PM
1

Have lunch, make moves, take it from there. If she is open for a date or whatever, then cool. If not, then forget about her and keep approaching more girls. (Which you should be doing while talking to this girl anyways)
/r/seduction18/08/15 11:08 PM
1

Let's put it like this: in a situation where dancing is going on in a social setting, you are 50% more ahead than most other guys. It's easy kino, fun, good cardio, a great sign of confidence, and if it's something you really enjoy doing, then you can just enjoy yourself. Yes, it will help you attract girls.
/r/seduction18/08/15 02:20 PM
1

That's a pretty subjective question. It depends on what you want in life; some people want to meet that special girl, and some just play the number game.
/r/seduction18/08/15 02:15 PM
2

But you're posting in a thread where literally someone is specifically asking what people think about NoFap... Now's your chance bud.
/r/seduction18/08/15 02:12 PM
1

You said you have no confidence. I remember reading that confidence stems from being good at something. What are some of your hobbies? Start spending more time on them and stop worrying about getting laid. Start doing things that build your confidence, (Approaching people, working out, hobbies, etc.) and you'll improve. Also, a good book for you to read might be No More Mr. Nice Guy. Don't just read it though, put it into action.
/r/seduction18/08/15 02:09 PM
2

Find a girl who pleases you sexually and emotionally. (You just might have not have come across such a girl yet.) Show her you're into her as more than just a hook up. (Text her about how you enjoy being with her, how you want to spend time with her, etc.) Make it FB official. No but real, make her your GF at that point.
/r/seduction18/08/15 02:02 PM
2

Savage
/r/seduction18/08/15 01:56 PM
8

She digs you man; the signs are there. The whole "can you do anything smoother than that?" just sounds like her teasing you, although I wasn't there to hear her tone. You should've eased off a bit, then slowly worked your way back up to a kiss later. She didn't want you to stop, just pump the brakes a bit. This was made apparent by her saying you were too aggressive. However I would say props for the aggressive kinoing, sounds like she was reciprocating pretty well for the most part. You made yo…
/r/seduction18/08/15 01:49 PM
1

When her face touches his jeans, she snaps, breaks out of the limited hold we're doing on her and turns around to slap me. I tried picturing this in the best way possible, but it just doesn't seem right in any way for you and your friend to push her head down into your friend's dick. I think in that situation you deserved to get slapped. Also, you didn't "soft-next" her. You ended up texting her a day later anyway and she said nothing about it; you just assumed she was in the wrong.
/r/seduction18/08/15 01:41 PM
1

It's good to be a little bit more horny and ready to go by e.g. only masturbating once a week and even then not to porn. But after that it's like I become too needy for sex. This is how I feel. I've tried it before, but it only makes me think about sex more as opposed trying to just have fun. That doesn't mesh well with my game.
/r/seduction18/08/15 01:26 PM
5

I have nothing but good things to say about it. Doesn't say anything about it.
/r/seduction18/08/15 01:24 PM
3

(28:25) ''Being fully present'': listen to what the other person says, and stop thinking about what to say next. By being genuinely curious, the conversation will flow easily by ''following the trail of bread crumbs'' This alone has helped me with conversations in general, not just with women. Also, thanks for making this transcript /u/Power-of-Dong!
/r/seduction18/08/15 01:21 PM
1

Did you drop caffeine for any reason in particular? If you're not against it, maybe have an energy drink or a coffee to give yourself a boost before you go out next time.
/r/seduction18/08/15 02:04 AM
1

I don't think movies are very relateable to real life because they're made to be entertaining, not realistic. Even if you can pin point the flaws in characters, the way it's shot alone could make people think it's a good movie.
/r/seduction18/08/15 02:00 AM
2

Hugging the girl you're going after when you first see her. Easily sets the stage for the direction you want to take things.
/r/seduction18/08/15 01:57 AM
44

You're right; it doesn't get any easier. You only become more accepting of what it is. Sometimes shit just doesn't work out, and we've just got to accept it. Just take what you've learned from this relationship and apply it to the next one. You're only getting stronger.
/r/seduction18/08/15 01:56 AM
1

Obviously, make sure things are genuine. I think this is the biggest thing. You have to really feel what you're saying, otherwise it just sounds weird. OP I think you should just keep trying to talk dirty to your BF when you guys are fooling around. Do it enough and be sincere about it, and your sexual verbal barrier will eventually come down. Another bit of info for further motivation: Girls talking in that quiet-almost-whisper voice while talking dirty is fucking hot. Once you get better at it…
/r/seduction30/06/15 02:44 AM
1

Snowball effect. You start with something friendly to warm her up, then continue to ramp up the actions and make them more and more sexual. And before you know it, she's attacking you like a bear in heat.
/r/seduction30/06/15 02:38 AM
2

I refer to my truck as "The Stabbin' Wagon".
/r/seduction25/06/15 02:06 AM
3

Sure, if you have a defeatist attitude. Success is not easily accomplished, that's why there's only so many successful people in the world. If you want to be the best you can be and succeed, you need to have a mindset like OP's post.
/r/seduction24/06/15 05:23 PM
1

Then you need to go out and make some! I think you're focusing too much on pleasing women before taking care of yourself.
/r/seduction24/06/15 05:20 PM
2

That might get annoying if you do it too much. A good thing to do would to be respond with a funny story or experience. "So where are you working right now?" "At Bloomingdales. Its blah blah, and blah blah." "Ahh Bloomingdales! The last time I went there... [continue with a story]"
/r/seduction24/06/15 12:33 PM
2

3) I once gave CPR to someone who was already deceased and I didn't know. Oh my.
/r/seduction24/06/15 12:11 AM
1

You go into "interview mode" by rapid firing closed-ended questions that have a simple yes/no answer. You always want to ask open-ended questions and follow up with some input of your own. If she brings up a topic of interest to you, be passionate and ask meaningful questions about it.
/r/seduction24/06/15 12:06 AM
2

"I don't get it." "You wouldn't, not with your tiny brain." Oh my gawd I love these guys.
/r/seduction23/06/15 11:49 PM
2

I agree, this is a great way to break the ice with someone you've just met. It makes the other person feel like you're being sincere (Especially if you really don't agree) and that makes them more comfortable around you.
/r/seduction23/06/15 11:38 PM
2

I get the text that she's alone and bike over (playas gotta do what he gotta do). Had me cracking right up. But dude, I hate to keep it vanilla because you're mad young, but you should just not care. If I were 16 again, my goal would be to have as much fun as possible. Laugh as much as I can and make as many friends as possible. You can literally shape your life whatever way you want, so just have fun. You should absolutely go out and better yourself, but just remember that you're going to have …
/r/seduction23/06/15 11:32 PM
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This is the kind of content this sub needs. Fucking beautiful man. The cool thing is – every single success eclipses the last hundred failures. This is so undeniably true. You can fail time and time again but when you succeed, the impact it has on your improvement is far, far stronger.
/r/seduction23/06/15 10:43 PM
23

I did lie to her a little and told her I have a girlfriend but she was long distance. Can say I have never thought about lying to a girl about HAVING a gf lol, it's usually the other way around.
/r/seduction27/05/15 03:25 AM
6

She may have messed up a digit or two in her number. But either way it doesn't matter because if she has your number and was into you, she'd get a hold of you.
/r/seduction27/05/15 03:07 AM
1

It seems that there's just a shell that you need to break out of. You're just going to have to break out of your comfort zone and do something you're not used to.
/r/seduction04/05/15 02:42 AM
2

I posted this not too long ago. Might be worth checking out!
/r/seduction04/05/15 02:23 AM
1

Tell yourself: Let's go see [the approach] if this chick is worthy enough [making her qualify] of being blessed with the presence of something special. [Confidence; being the prize]
/r/seduction27/03/15 02:47 AM
2

Did I lose the game or win the game? That depends, are you happy? If so, then yes, you won "the game". If you're not, then you lost. There is no concrete definition to successful pickup because every one has different goals and opinions. You can say you lost because you didn't take her home, but at the same time you learned that you need to adjust your approach (calibrate) for every girl because there is no universal way to game women as a whole. (Referring to the whole, "I said what I wanted to…
/r/seduction27/03/15 02:41 AM
1

I second this recommendation.
/r/seduction27/03/15 02:12 AM
1

You did what I would've done; laughed and walked away. That shit's annoying, people fuck. Get over it.
/r/seduction06/01/15 05:34 PM
1

That's awesome man, she's definitely digging you. Time to have some fun!
/r/seduction01/01/15 05:33 PM
1

That's a good sign. Just go to the movies with her and cuddle her. See if she's comfortable with it.
/r/seduction31/12/14 06:41 AM
1

I would just like to reiterate that I'm not saying texting in general isn't needed; there's definitely a time and a place for it. But good text game is just a by-product of solid real game.
/r/seduction28/12/14 03:57 PM
1

Oh I wish I saw this sooner... You should text as much as you want as long as the conversation is a two-way one. Don't ever spam text her just because she hasn't responded. I honestly wouldn't text her again until she got a hold of you. people are telling me to chill with the compliments, texts, and gifts (only two). A rule that I go by, (From Neil Strauss' "The Game") and you may choose to use it or not, is to never buy any gifts for a girl you haven't slept with. If your friends are telling yo…
/r/seduction28/12/14 03:53 PM
1

Go to a clothing shop, go up to a girl in the store and ask her if she thinks something will look good on you. Just use a situational opener when you're in different environments. Use your surroundings to your advantage. You could use a direct opener if you think it's more up your alley.
/r/seduction28/12/14 03:35 PM
2

I guess this also implies I'm looking to escalate the date as well. Which is why you shouldn't go to the movies for a date. There's little room for escalation (unless there's a sexual connection already established) because both your guys' focus will be on the movie. My advice is to either change the date to somewhere else, or have a plan for after the movie that's more intimate-friendly. (If you go through with the movie, try to kino and all that jazz if you can sneak it in)
/r/seduction28/12/14 06:08 AM
2

That's kind of the point of "No More Mr. Nice Guy".
/r/seduction28/12/14 05:32 AM
2

I think that's how a lot of people are because it makes you feel "safe". On the other hand, you can't just ditch your friends if you told them you'd spend time with them that night.
/r/seduction28/12/14 05:26 AM
1

It's not that texting shouldn't be prevalent, it's just that a lot of people over-invest in "text game" thinking they can win a girls heart by texting her the perfect words instead of focusing on good inner game and creating real attraction. If you genuinely want to text her and that's how you guys mainly communicate, text away. Just don't do something you don't want to.
/r/seduction28/12/14 05:23 AM
2

No I do not. When I'm out I have about 15% of energy invested in actual game and the other 85% is invested in enjoying myself. No one special girl is going to get more than that 15% of energy.
/r/seduction28/12/14 05:13 AM
1

Kind of a dumb rule... Why not make your friend group bigger? It's okay to be social!
/r/seduction28/12/14 05:08 AM
2

If I had a dollar for every time I've seen this question asked I would have enough to buy OP a custom radar that pinpoints the location of the nearest vagina. Everywhere my friend, everywhere. But try places you think girls would usually go. Coffee shops, book stores, malls, etc.
/r/seduction28/12/14 05:06 AM
1

For anyone who doesn't know of this wonderful principle.
/r/seduction28/12/14 05:01 AM
6

tell her you're taking her to a movie this Friday at 8 No
/r/seduction28/12/14 04:58 AM
1

Since you're immune to all seduction tricks and are a "unicorn", what do you do when a guy approaches you? Tell him to fuck off instantly? Do any approaches work with you? I feel like all these girls who think they can spot a "player" are just crushing the possibility of meeting someone cool. Sure if a guy opens you with a pick up line he's probably just after sex, but a lot of guys are just generally trying to have fun and find some confidence. I honestly would hate to date a girl who thinks sh…
/r/seduction28/12/14 04:55 AM
1

It's a physiological game you play with a target girl to DHV.
/r/seduction28/12/14 03:14 AM
1

What was your process for going through the game? I know what it is but I can't say I've ever thought about giving it a shot.
/r/seduction28/12/14 03:12 AM
1

It means if you legitimately are interesting (Have knowledge, passions, a willingness to learn, etc) and confident (Completely comfortable with yourself) then you don't have to worry about text game. Unless you can't text worth shit. And no, obviously you're not going to drop panties (besides nudes) through text game.
/r/seduction28/12/14 02:55 AM
2

Read that great article /u/ThrowawayPUA posted for sure. If you want to try a little exercise I do, check it out. It's basically mimicking an actor or characters voice in a movie/show and using that to improve your own voice.
/r/seduction26/12/14 06:21 PM
5

I'm loling at these magnificent comments.
/r/seduction26/12/14 06:15 PM
1

You have what I would call, "Solid Text Game".
/r/seduction26/12/14 05:09 PM
1

I'm glad you at least said why you think it's awful advice. But if your goal is just to get laid, absolutely by all means be a douche and you can pull tail left and right. However if you're trying to become a confident, attractive male (huge difference from a nice guy), you don't need to act like anything to get quality girls. You're fine with getting rejected for acting genuine. Modern pickup is becoming more about self-improvement and less about player-ish tendencies.
/r/seduction26/12/14 05:03 PM
2

That's totally fine, I can respect that. You have to make do with the resources you have. My point is that text game is just not something you need to work on. If you're an interesting, confident male you're naturally going to have great text game.
/r/seduction26/12/14 04:59 PM
1

All beautiful statements my man. "Text game" is just a by-product of who you are as a person. And like you said, good game comes from experience, investment, and confidence.
/r/seduction26/12/14 04:57 PM
2

So let me get this straight... You're telling me we shouldn't be talking about processes and techniques about the art of Seduction when you're posting on a sub about the processes and techniques of Seduction? Be confident? Congratulations! You just figured out step one. Maybe tomorrow you can get the fuck out of your parent's basement and go talk to some women. Maybe you'll learn it takes more than confidence to seduce a woman. Perhaps you'll learn a bit about psychology then develop some emotio…
/r/seduction26/12/14 04:53 PM
1

That's what I'm talking about man.
/r/seduction26/12/14 04:41 PM
3

You can't spend 12 hours a day texting a bitch all day long. We're busy people with work and what not we all understand that, but you need to be able to conduct yourself properly in all forms of communication. That is all I'm trying to convey. I am in no way trying to say cellphones are the devil or anything like that, I hope people don't get the wrong picture. I have a cell and I use it daily. I understand the impact "text game" can have on a relationship but it's not anywhere close to as impor…
/r/seduction26/12/14 04:39 PM
1

I try to stay as humble as possible though because around certain people confidence can be seen as arrogance. Beautifully put. And get it man, I'll be doing the same!
/r/seduction26/12/14 05:58 AM
2

Now I just want to party.
/r/seduction26/12/14 05:56 AM
1

There has to be some level of attraction from my corner, but for the most part, I would in fact let her reach in and grab the meatloaf.
/r/seduction26/12/14 05:53 AM
1

You don't want to be in your head all of the time, that's for sure. You've gotta let loose and not think from time to time. But self-awareness is not a bad thing to (almost) perfect. It allows you to be completely in control of your thoughts and this is a powerful tool because in any given situation you can stop and tell yourself, "I'm doing [this] when I should be doing [this]." It not so much a perfectionist mindset as it is about just having control of your thoughts. (Stopping negative though…
/r/seduction26/12/14 05:37 AM
1

To the point that if I flirt with a girl and get shot down I literally don't give a shit. My strategy for that is 1. either we has a man that se really loves or 2. she doesn't know how to be with someone as attractivr as I am (a bit cocky but it works) Haha, I laughed at that last part because that is pretty cocky. But hey, if that's what works for you I'm not knocking it at all. As long as you have fun and don't take yourself to seriously, you'll do just fine!
/r/seduction26/12/14 05:16 AM
1

They would get pissed when I would not respond to their messages in a timely fashion or at all. (Which is understandable) I'm sorry, but I don't think that's understandable. If you're genuinely busy the girl needs to respect that. You have a life to live. And with regards to the girl who was annoyed you didn't text her more... A good way to handle that would be to tell her you'd rather talk to her beautiful face in person, followed by a set up for a date. If she can't respect THAT, it's time for…
/r/seduction26/12/14 05:01 AM
1

Self-awareness. Meditation might be right up your alley my friend.
/r/seduction26/12/14 04:49 AM
3

Especially if you clue them into your interpersonal dynamics with others. Females are relational. This is an awesome tip about what I was talking about with useful small talk. Make it interesting!
/r/seduction26/12/14 04:36 AM
6

It's best to just be genuine and honest when it comes to a "good girl" who wants a relationship when you don't. A good man would move on because he doesn't need to hurt her just to get an easy lay. Attraction should always be a two-way road. I know what you mean about thinking you're sending the wrong message with the way you flirt. If you're looking for a FWB situation, you need to be quite sexual with your approach. Aggressive is good, but know when you're pushing it. (aka=Calibration)
/r/seduction26/12/14 04:34 AM
3

I can relate to you a lot here man. I never really wanted a LTR before, I've only been in 1 and I fucking hated it. Like you said, I had a vague understanding of how unfaithful a lot of girls are. However I went into the relationship WITH that mindset, honestly didn't treat her that well, (I was just never fully interested in the relationship) she cheated, and that closed the premature chapter of LTRs. It only solidified the fact that I didn't want one. Of course there's times where I want that …
/r/seduction26/12/14 04:25 AM
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The key is to move quickly, establish intentions very early. First night lays are good FWB material. No small talk later on like people who are moving towards an exclusive relationship usually have. ("I miss you" "I enjoy spending time with you" etc) If you can leave after the first hook up, that's good because she'll know you're not looking for love. Have GREAT sex with her, then text her the next day: "Had a blast last night, let's do it again sometime. ;)" NEVER ask a girl if she wants to be …
/r/seduction26/12/14 04:08 AM
3

I shall return your question with another question. If you don't really want to text all the time, why should you? Sacrificing your desires for her's is seeking approval. You want to do what she wants so that she'll like you more. Unless you do enjoy texting, then text away. But texting alone won't get you laid, which is my overall point.
/r/seduction26/12/14 03:51 AM
1

Yes, this. She fits your standards for attractive and that's your body's response to tell you it's go time. Learning to make use of that anxiety energy is what makes or breaks a PUA.
/r/seduction26/12/14 03:41 AM
3

I'm curious as to how you think you messed the relationships up by not texting them? Girls do like to text, that's true. They're always on their phone, right? Now, an interesting man is going to be busy being... Interesting. No huge allotted time to text nonstop. This creates contrast and leaves the guy with an ultimatum to do what the GIRL wants and spend a ton of time texting her useless stuff or continue pursuing his passions. If someone's a big fan of texting, that's totally cool. Text away.…
/r/seduction26/12/14 03:32 AM
2

See, now that's good... Facebook Game? All you did was use it to build up quick rapport and to set up a date. That is the right way to do it, and it sounds like it worked like a charm for you.
/r/seduction26/12/14 02:58 AM
8

I WOULD NEVER. That was a plea for strength from the almighty lord that is Sweet Baby Ray's (Honey BBQ, of course)... My sincerest apologies if I came off as conversely. Upvoted for the bleeding passion for SBR.
/r/seduction26/12/14 12:05 AM
4

They have their uses, but my god do they sap people's attention. I understand it; I mean there's an app for everything, gotta check FB, tweet on twitter, post a pic on instagram, all that jazz but it's just a nuisance when it comes to social interaction. That's why they're NOT an integral part of seduction. Maybe avoiding materialistic idealism will become a staple in PU in the near future.
/r/seduction25/12/14 11:57 PM
6

That's awesome that you were able to break away from it. Investing precious time into a real malleable skill instead of artificial skill has endless benefits.
/r/seduction25/12/14 11:50 PM
2

you people What do YOU mean, you people?!
/r/seduction25/12/14 09:51 PM
4

If k-closing is a not a problem I wouldn't mess with success. Definitely more kino if you're trying to f-close though.
/r/seduction25/12/14 09:09 PM
15

Moving on from the whole sister mix up... whenever talking to them, keep it positive, be her sunshine not her shadow. men that complain about how a women treats them are assuming a woman's role. Both of these statements are brilliant.
/r/seduction25/12/14 08:55 PM
1

Any openers or tactics you have to open a girl easily? Any input on taking an interaction from platonic to sexual? I could careless about texting, but do you do anything to maintain interest with a girl post-hookup or are you just looking for ONSs?
/r/seduction25/12/14 06:01 PM
7

Ain't no hoe got time fo chat. FTFY.
/r/seduction25/12/14 04:57 PM
5

Exactly. Just continue doing this: I don't sweat wether or not the girl will respond. I just continue on with my life as planned after I send the text. And you'll be fine!
/r/seduction25/12/14 01:57 PM
12

Aint nobody got time fo dat. FTFY.
/r/seduction25/12/14 06:23 AM
5

It's crazy that people plan their texting that far ahead. If I don't respond immediately it's because I forgot to or I was genuinely busy. Can't say I've ever did it to play "hard to get".
/r/seduction25/12/14 05:14 AM
3

/r/askSeddit. Also, sidebar hard dude.
/r/seduction25/12/14 04:48 AM
21

Is fore-mentioned best friend a girl? What does (s)he usually do when (s)he responds, carry on like nothing happened?
/r/seduction25/12/14 04:41 AM
19

It's like trying to find big foot, everyone wants to figure it out but it's clouded with mystery. Whether you believe in big foot or not doesn't matter, the fact is that there's a billion reasons why a girl would take forever to respond. She could be studying, working, knitting a sweater, banging some random, etc. Obviously she could just not be into you, but that itself doesn't explain why she would take so long and then still reply. I don't know man, all we can do is marvel at the mystery. *si…
/r/seduction25/12/14 04:39 AM
1

That's just human nature. You have plenty of something, you want less of it. Soon as it's gone though, you crave it. Female contact is instinct so that desire is strong. Hell yeah man, keep that drive alive!
/r/seduction25/12/14 04:05 AM
1

If I am blessed with the opportunity, I certainly will. He lives an hour away so maybe if I go sarging with my original friend in that town I can get him to bring him out!
/r/seduction25/12/14 03:56 AM
1

I've been into 'natural' pickup for a good chunk of time, probably since I was around 13-14. (22 now) It wasn't as refined as it is for me now, I just knew I liked the process of trying to get girls and enjoyed the chase. I'm not going to say I was pulling tail left and right, but I did pretty well and had fun with it. I only recently stumbled upon the PUA community, and never knew there was a whole different world surrounding it. I just figured that's what they called dudes who were good with g…
/r/seduction24/12/14 11:19 PM
1

Starting making little innuendo jokes here and there, make her laugh. Slowly distract her from the actual work and then start trying to really game her. I don't know how old you are, but if you can, offer her a drink at this point. Then if you make it that far, completely disregard the tutoring. Tell her she's REALLY gon' learn today.
/r/seduction24/12/14 11:04 PM
2

"Sorry, I have a boyfriend" "So do I" Made me lol. If you're asking what's the next best move with her, nothing. She's too young and doesn't sound like she was interested. The next move for you is to keep approaching more girls, (Try to stray away from hired guns next time, they're good to warm up with but it just puts them on the spot to try to game them) and keep having fun. Good job going for it and accepting the possibility of rejection. You're going to be just fine my friend. :)
/r/seduction24/12/14 10:58 PM
2

Ask open ended questions. Figure out what she's passionate about and pull from it what you can and inject your own passion. Reward her for committing to the conversation. (Don't give "too much of yourself") You don't have to know exactly what she's talking about to relate to it. People in general are interested in things they're invested in. It's just like gambling. And if you get her to invest in the conversation, you're doing good. Also, remember, it's not what you say during the conversation,…
/r/seduction24/12/14 10:46 PM
2

Well yeah, it's a big difference. But you know what he means though. We've all known a guy who thought he was the shit and said some chick was off limits, even though they weren't dating.
/r/seduction24/12/14 10:27 PM
1

That's a good mindset to have that they're connected, because knowledge is a gateway to unlimited power in a sense. And... I love you too?
/r/seduction24/12/14 09:48 PM
0

All they're going to do is make themselves look needy and desperate. This for sure OP. Keep doing you and let him make himself look like an idiot.
/r/seduction24/12/14 09:46 PM
2

He means a boyfriend or a guy who thinks he's her boyfriend.
/r/seduction24/12/14 09:45 PM
1

/r/askSeddit
/r/seduction24/12/14 09:43 PM
3

I know exactly where you're coming from. My name is long/uncommon and it's been a topic of interest since I can remember. I use hate to explain what my full name is, but now I get a big kick out of it. A lot of people are intrigued by it, I like to not tell someone my full name when I meet them, then when they stumble across it they're like "What?! That's crazy!"
/r/seduction24/12/14 09:39 PM
1

Good points, from what I can make out of it. I was going to think of a way to prove you wrong about how you can have knowledge without power, but I figured I'd be contradicting myself. Haha, good shit! KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!
/r/seduction24/12/14 09:34 PM
41

Anyway the wind blows, Doesn't really matter, to meeeeeeeeee.
/r/seduction24/12/14 05:30 PM
1

Haha that is great. You can probably learn some interesting things about the female prospective from her. It's a shame she's a bad wing though! And that was probably a smart move not to hook up with her, even she was hot. That would've probably ended up with one of you moving out and forcing the other to find a new roommate. I'm curious, what was one of the routines she used to get you guys free drinks lol?
/r/seduction24/12/14 03:36 PM
5

Fabulouth!
/r/seduction24/12/14 05:12 AM
16

Alpha AF
/r/seduction24/12/14 05:06 AM
6

You know, I can agree with not just spilling everything out with a girl you just met. Save it for the more passionate moments you spend with a girl that you're genuinely interested in. Let her slowly find out what makes you, you. With that being said, I know vulnerability is becoming a key skill(?) for the modern PUA, and there's a reason for it. Women like men who aren't afraid to open up because that makes them feel as if they can open up to you. Another great example of how the man is suppose…
/r/seduction24/12/14 05:00 AM
11

This is golden, and true. I have this new-ish chick I work with that would constantly ask me to do things for her, and I would do what you said and she would either give me 'that look' or call me an asshole. (At which point I would laugh.) ... I got her to give me a massage during my shift the other day, (that's a whole nother story) and now she doesn't always ask me to do shit.
/r/seduction24/12/14 04:52 AM
11

Please do and post your results.
/r/seduction24/12/14 04:43 AM
2

Exactly, great idea. It's awesome because you'll start to pull the positives out of the usual negatives.
/r/seduction23/12/14 09:18 PM
2

It's not necessarily that I struggle to break out, it's more of the fact that I just make a joke about everything. Processing the important information about me is tough because I'm rarely willing to give it out straight forward. Girls don't necessarily hate this, but I tend to push it, which is why I'm working on it. If you're that open with everyone that's awesome. You should have no problem making the switch to cool, calm, and collected. Have fun my man!
/r/seduction23/12/14 08:32 PM
2

Groups are tough for me as well, because you have to appeal to multiple people which is more of a challenge. But it's exactly that, a challenge. I embrace them because they're great ways to improve!
/r/seduction23/12/14 08:25 PM
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I injured my ankle while rock climbing two days ago. Do you know how bad ass that can sound? Hell yeah you can do it. You're not going to "paint yourself negatively". You're going to paint yourself as someone who likes to have fun and takes risks in the face of danger. (aka = confident)
/r/seduction23/12/14 07:25 PM
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Do you think I can change people's opinions about me by remaining calm cool and collected? Absolutely. I'm making somewhat of the same change myself. (However not in a class) A problem I've found (and was told) for me is that I don't open up to people that easily (I'm guilty of rarely being serious), maybe you can assess yourself and see if you have the same problem. If a girl asks you a serious question (Make sure it's not a shit test though), feel free to answer it sincerely and don't bullshit…
/r/seduction23/12/14 07:19 PM
2

You'll be surprised what you can accomplish after a few tries my friend.
/r/seduction23/12/14 07:12 PM
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I think you're mixing up the idea of a player and an attractive ("Alpha") male. A player couldn't give a shit about a "a promise of future benefit" he just wants to get laid, and doesn't care if the attraction is one-sided or not. However I agree that being attractive requires a lot of hard work. But hard work pays off, and I personally like a little challenge. It'd be interesting to imagine how society would be if the roles were reversed and it were easy for men to pick up women.
/r/seduction23/12/14 05:40 PM
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Why don't you try it so you know you're not giving your friends bad advice? :P
/r/seduction23/12/14 05:00 PM
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I think you are trying to put EVERYTHING into practice at once, which is difficult to do and can lead to frustrating results. What I think would be best is focusing on one or two basic things and practicing them first. Yes, absolutely this OP.
/r/seduction23/12/14 04:40 PM
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Basically you're asking if it's bad if girls know you're a sexual guy. Obviously there's a bunch of girls that won't like it because they have the stereotypical idea of a "player" when it comes to someone being a ladies man. But I think it definitely helps more than it hurts.
/r/seduction23/12/14 04:36 PM
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I guess that's what happens when you don't drink everyday. :P
/r/seduction23/12/14 03:02 AM
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Is there a heightened sexuality that evening that makes us more promiscuous? Yes, and that comes from the inhumane amounts of alcohol that is consumed on New Years Eve. Try to hold your shit and keep your game strong. Think of it like the end of the world, and go about your approaches as so. You're not going to be there again, so just have fun.
/r/seduction22/12/14 04:10 PM
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Let me start off by saying I'm 17 and have a major fear of rejection. Prepare to have that fear for the next few years of your life. That's just one of joys of being a teenager. Just have fun and don't beat yourself up over girls.
/r/seduction22/12/14 04:05 PM
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I agree because OP, if you get rejected it's usually whatever. But in this case, it sounds like it will just hurt your chances even more. I would just try to go somewhere where they are a little more open sexually.
/r/seduction22/12/14 04:00 PM
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Moral of the story being, physical attractiveness gives you an ungodly starting advantage with girls, but that will often lose out to social finesse and charisma. That's a great way to put it, and it's true.
/r/seduction22/12/14 03:49 PM
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We went to a club once and a 8.5 walked past us and he just slapped her ass out of no where. That's hilarious but not a very respectable move lol. My friend I was talking about wouldn't do that; he wouldn't need to. it could be worse and I could be one of those guys struggling to hit it off with a 5. That's right man, it could always be worse!
/r/seduction22/12/14 03:47 PM
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Escalate until she says she cant. Agree and say we shouldnt but continue escalating..(please correct me if im wrong). Yes and no. You don't keep doing whatever you were doing when she stopped you. If you were trying to take her pants off, don't try doing that again right off the bat. Go back a step and make out with her while you feel her up. Once you calibrate her response, go for her pants or shirt again. If after a few tries, you feel like it's going no where, freeze her out hard. Turn on the…
/r/seduction22/12/14 01:10 AM
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"Hey baby, I saved a seat for you." *points to face*
/r/seduction22/12/14 12:17 AM
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The more aware you are of yourself the more patient, calm, collected, and confident you become. This may very well be the best advice I've come across on here yet.
/r/seduction22/12/14 12:11 AM
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A good friend of mine. He's just an absolute natural. Really good looking (Idk how women rate dudes, but he could easily pull off saying he's a model), tall, high value, super athletic, always knows what to say, dresses well, etc. Being a textbook natural, he's unreal with girls. It's rare to see him even have to try to pull. Girls I might struggle with are ones he doesn't need to even try for, they crawl to him. (Short story: this one HB8.5 that I fucked up with literally asked HIM to join her …
/r/seduction22/12/14 12:05 AM
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They should've asked you to post it in /r/askSeddit. :p
/r/seduction21/12/14 11:49 PM
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2 steps forward, 1 step back. That's the formula for dealing with LMR. (And escalation in general) It's all about building up that sexual tension, until you finally crack her. You started it right by freezing out the first time, but I wouldn't have said "I understand, let's just not do anything." UNLESS you said it in a seductive way followed by you kissing her on the neck or something. That's the right way to deal with LMR. She clearly wanted it, I think you breaking frame by saying "let's not …
/r/seduction21/12/14 11:45 PM
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Anyway you can convert it to .pdf? I can't open it. :\
/r/seduction20/12/14 08:48 PM
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/r/askSeddit buuuutttttttttttttttttt.... Would I personally? Sure because I'm not looking for an exclusive relationship, and that sounds like an easy FWB. Absolutely not if you're trying to find something serious.
/r/seduction20/12/14 08:42 PM
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That's the problem with getting into a relationship that's one sided. He wanted to be exclusive at the beginning and you didn't. Now the roles have switched. I would just talk to him about it and if he doesn't want things to be exclusive I would move on.
/r/seduction20/12/14 05:09 PM
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This really should be in /r/askSeddit, but I'll toss you some advice. Is she shit testing me Nope. None of this is a shit test. She's playing games, games and more games. I'd move on, unless you want to keep playing. The whole "I'm cold" or "I was taking a nap" excuses are not valid enough in MY book to permit me to want to reschedule a date. If a girl would rather take a nap than spend time with me, I'll find someone else. I honestly wouldn't even bother with her, but if you want to, go for it.…
/r/seduction19/12/14 04:22 PM
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I'm going to go ahead and recommend meditation. That will teach you to just breathe and relax when a situation like that comes up.
/r/seduction19/12/14 01:58 PM
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Self-improvement. Start focusing on your self as your main priority and women should come second. Once you get in a better mindset you'll have more confidence to approach women. Start by talking to strangers in general, not attractive women. Work on becoming a good conversationalist.
/r/seduction19/12/14 01:53 PM
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"Girl you look so good I wish I could plant you and grow a whole field of ya'll!" My god that's great. The cappuccino one was pretty humorous as well.
/r/seduction19/12/14 01:51 PM
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"Who is this?" That'll learn her.
/r/seduction17/12/14 04:23 PM
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Or we could just send all the girl-specific stuff to /r/askSeddit where it's suppose to go.
/r/seduction17/12/14 04:23 PM
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I know her feelings for me are a lot stronger than mine are for her and I don't want to hurt her. I really like another girl I've started seeing recently and want to see where it goes 'the old fashioned way'. Tell her this. It's the right thing to do because it's pure honesty and it's worded well. She get's mad or jealous? Oh well, you did your part.
/r/seduction17/12/14 04:21 PM
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Or everybody knows. It's common sense man.
/r/seduction16/12/14 01:50 PM
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That's what I like to hear buddy!
/r/seduction16/12/14 01:48 PM
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Exactly. Next step is to talk to a girl and hold a more engaging conversation. Have fun with it OP!
/r/seduction16/12/14 04:39 AM
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Does this really need to be answered? If a girl is looking for sex from you, and you don't provide that, she'll find someone who will.
/r/seduction16/12/14 04:36 AM
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Try to start conversations with whoever you can. The end goal is to just be comfortable interacting with a complete stranger. It doesn't need to just be girls.
/r/seduction16/12/14 04:35 AM
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Whats the best way to deal with flakers in general, especially for someone who is only really talking to one or two girls at any given time ? Talk to more than one or two girls.
/r/seduction16/12/14 04:33 AM
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/r/malefashionadvice But it all depends on your style really. I would recommend something casual yet somewhat classy. A nice jacket, nice jeans, boots. Avoid t-shirts that have a bunch of logos on them. I don't do scarves, polo shirts, cardigans, or anything of the sort, but if you do, that's cool.
/r/seduction16/12/14 02:16 AM
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The whole point of it is to make it easier to discuss the techniques we use. Obviously you're not going to tell a girl, "You are a solid HB8 and I wanted to open you with an indirect approach." Like /u/fitzzpleasure said, no one's forcing you to use the terms.
/r/seduction16/12/14 02:08 AM
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Awesome article. I think anyone dealing with Oneitis or just a shitty relationship in general needs to read this. I can never understand how people waste their time on people who just aren't in to them/aren't in to them for the right reasons. But I guess knowledge is power, right?
/r/seduction15/12/14 05:10 PM
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hopefully bring a girl back to my room You won't with that attitude. You're in Vegas; go out to have fun, not to worry about bringing a girl back. (Have fun and talk to girls, just don't solely focus on the outcome you want with them.)
/r/seduction15/12/14 04:55 PM
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More to choose from!
/r/seduction15/12/14 04:52 PM
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While trying to pick up what snack I wanted to eat then ultimately regret that night Lol story of my life.
/r/seduction14/12/14 05:15 AM
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Good points, I was also going to say that about Johnny Depp. But I think a girl will lose interest pretty quickly if you're narcissistic. If everything is about you and you don't really show interest in her outside of your own sexual desire, she'll pick up on this. (Unless she really isn't an intellectual girl or you're really good looking)
/r/seduction13/12/14 03:54 PM
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He has a point my friend. Yeah it's great to experience awkward high school relationships, but don't focus your entire HS career on landing one. Just have fun and and enjoy the wild ride.
/r/seduction13/12/14 03:48 PM
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Go and do something fun like some shots of vodka Not exactly my idea of fun.
/r/seduction13/12/14 03:25 PM
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I think it's kind of a shock factor. She might be like "What?!" and act all taken back, but that's a good thing. Catch her off guard and make things interesting. It's not what you say to her it's about how you make her feel.
/r/seduction13/12/14 03:23 PM
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There you are, uploaded a few of the tracks. :) (SoundCloud's really slow for some reason so it might take a while for the tracks to appear but they'll be there)
/r/seduction12/12/14 08:19 PM
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Threesome
/r/seduction12/12/14 07:53 PM
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apocalypse bomb (or whatever you guys call it) And what, might I ask, is that?
/r/seduction12/12/14 04:41 PM
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GET PUMPED.
/r/seduction12/12/14 04:34 PM
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You bet.
/r/seduction11/12/14 07:50 PM
1

Like maybe similar hats with different colors or brim styles. This I can agree with.
/r/seduction11/12/14 07:50 PM
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When it comes to actually being around each other, no matter how much effort I put into making them comfortable, they are frozen. You can't really do much to change them; if they're scared they're scared. You can only worry about making yourself comfortable and hope that translates into him loosening up. You've just gotta come across a guy who knows something about seduction. (Not pickup necessarily, just seduction as a natural skill) It sounds like you put yourself in the right situations, it's…
/r/seduction11/12/14 07:33 PM
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It's a bad idea to wear the same thing, it makes it look like you two are together.
/r/seduction11/12/14 07:25 PM
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I've gotta respect that man. Everyone's got their own style and if that works for you, that's awesome man. You like to be a little mysterious and intrigue the girl. I personally have to be pretty quick because I lose interest quickly myself if there isn't a spark there.
/r/seduction10/12/14 03:23 AM
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He literally has a hand gesture for every single word. But for real, these are some great tips.
/r/seduction10/12/14 03:15 AM
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Women will get hotter for a guy who refuses sex the first night then ramps up sexual game after that, than the guy who just goes for it the first night. I'm going to have to say, I disagree with this. It certainly depends on the girl. A lot of girls lose interest the longer you take to escalate. (Situation-wise and sex-wise)
/r/seduction10/12/14 02:58 AM
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Read it earlier. Great article!
/r/seduction10/12/14 02:09 AM
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i've been using this trick ever since i discovered it while playing with my stuffed animals as a child. I dont know why, but I laughed quite hard at his.
/r/seduction10/12/14 02:08 AM
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You definitely gain an increased awareness from it. You can tell when your voice is on and when you're not really resonating well. But give it a shot, I'd love to hear how it works for people!
/r/seduction09/12/14 11:51 PM
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Great explanation, I fully agree. He can absolutely make his voice sound super powerful and resonate well if he wants to. But as you said he does have a higher pitched voice.
/r/seduction09/12/14 11:46 PM
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Haha its sad but true, I've noticed the same thing. Its really impressive when im good and hungover!
/r/seduction09/12/14 11:35 PM
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That's awesome that you've study Frank Sinatra to that extent. That's essentially what I'm trying to do, just with speaking instead of singing. But I might start introducing singing exercises as you said because I understand the basics of singing and they relate to what I'm trying to accomplish with vocal tonality. (Especially speaking from the Diaphragm. This is very important)
/r/seduction09/12/14 03:23 PM
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Hmmm... When I get some free time maybe I'll make a SoundCloud page and upload what I have from "The Lookout". I think it's like 4 or 5 tracks totaling like 15 minutes.
/r/seduction09/12/14 03:19 PM
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I agree, you've gotta understand what your voice is capable of. But studying other peoples' voices gives you an understanding of the technique they use to make themselves sound like that.
/r/seduction09/12/14 03:17 PM
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Hahah I can't say I've done THAT, but if my jam comes on the radio I will show no mercy when it comes to covering it word for word.
/r/seduction09/12/14 03:16 PM
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Yes sir, definitely have thought about it. It just feels better when you learn to speak with a powerful voice. I also plan to start recording myself to!
/r/seduction09/12/14 03:15 PM
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Unfortunately no I have not! I wanted to start recording my voice to start really critiquing it. I just haven't had the time to. Definitely will put it on the to-do list! And I've seen Photo Booth! I'll have to re-watch it to give it another listen.
/r/seduction09/12/14 03:14 PM
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Good god please get your friend to write a FR on here someday.
/r/seduction09/12/14 03:30 AM
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/r/askSeddit
/r/seduction07/12/14 10:56 PM
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A great guideline in Juggler's method is to ask questions that make her commit to the conversation. Humans are a lot more interested in things they're invested in. Open questions like "Where are you from?" are fine as long as you reward her for committing (making an effort). The format Juggler recommends is: Question > Statement > Question > Statement. For example: You: Where are you from? Her: I'm from Idaho. You: Oh that's cool. I've heard they have great potatoes there. [Or relate to it someh…
/r/seduction07/12/14 03:09 PM
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There's only one way, and that's to show her how you feel about her, not tell her. Your chances of this working are solely dependent on how she really feels about you. (That's why it's crucial to do it as early on as possible) You can better your chances by completely changing yourself (social status, looks, money, etc.), but I would never recommend changing for any girl. Change for yourself and you'll attract better girls than the one you're friendzoned with.
/r/seduction07/12/14 03:01 PM
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2: Stop contact, talk to her in 2-3 months. This doesn't even really help either. You've got to show her your intentions as early as possible. I suppose the longer you wait before trying to show your intentions since you missed the opportunity in the beginning, the better.
/r/seduction07/12/14 02:57 PM
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I think you need to reconstruct your confidence my friend. You had 2 girls approach YOU and you seemed cool calm and collected with the girl you k-closed. Now imagine if you did the approaching. Great FR!
/r/seduction07/12/14 02:52 PM
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Have a girl wearing lipstick kiss you on the neck at the beginning of the night before you go out Uh. Why are you going out if you already have a girl that's going to kiss your neck?
/r/seduction07/12/14 02:54 AM
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/r/askSeddit please!
/r/seduction06/12/14 11:42 PM
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This should be on /r/askSeddit. But it doesn't matter if you called it a date or not. What matters is what you do on that date.
/r/seduction06/12/14 09:24 PM
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You just can't look for approval if you want to be successful with women. Women like men who know/go for what they want. If you're looking for approval, you're going to come off like you have no idea what you want and don't know how to lead. As far as clothing goes. Once again, you have to be willing to change to improve. If you've always wore your ugly clothes and haven't been successful with that, don't you think you should try something new?
/r/seduction06/12/14 09:02 PM
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I could never just go up to random hot girls and do some of the things that you guys do For one you're going to have to eliminate this false belief from your head. It doesn't make you a bad person to go up to a random girl and get to meet her, it just makes you social. It's a natural thing to do. How can I be successful with ladies without drastically changing how I act toward women and maintaining my inner nerd? You can still a be a nerd and get women. It's all about your confidence and your la…
/r/seduction05/12/14 03:33 PM
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I can agree. Humans by nature get sick and unappreciative of things after being exposed to it regularly.
/r/seduction05/12/14 12:58 AM
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This should be posted in /r/askSeddit my friend.
/r/seduction05/12/14 12:50 AM
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I could not have said it any better.
/r/seduction05/12/14 12:48 AM
1

Sounds like a successful day I'd say!
/r/seduction05/12/14 12:47 AM
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Lol.
/r/seduction05/12/14 12:43 AM
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Right. Pick-up lines are old school now and a lot of girls know what negging is. It's not as "cheesy" as it used to be.
/r/seduction04/12/14 02:49 PM
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How can I be successful with ladies without drastically changing how I act toward women and maintaining my inner nerd? Also how can I use being a med student to my advantage? How can you improve without changing? You can't my friend. You're going to have to make changes and sacrifices (not your med degree) to get what you want. And you can use being a med student to your advantage simply by saying you're a med student if a girl asks what you do. Don't bring it up out of the blue however.
/r/seduction04/12/14 02:46 PM
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The only way to test that is to see if you approach the next girl.
/r/seduction04/12/14 02:40 PM
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Haha you must chew as much gum as I do.
/r/seduction04/12/14 02:32 PM
1

What I got from this was that you sent 3 texts without a reply, then another one 3 days later and she still hasn't responded? That's coming off as very needy man. Don't send her anymore texts until she responds but I would just assume this one is squashed.
/r/seduction04/12/14 04:23 AM
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Good hygiene (brushing your teeth) is a must, then it's what ever you like to use. I recommend a good mint gum; my favorite right now is Orbit Sweetmint. (I'd like to find something different though because it contains Aspartame)
/r/seduction04/12/14 04:16 AM
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Maybe you should read the rules. Seddit is for Intermediate/Advanced techniques and FR's. /r/askSeddit is for beginner questions, which is what this is.
/r/seduction04/12/14 03:45 AM
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Absolutely. You keep your cool no matter what. Even if she does end up going with the other guy, it's no biggie. There's a sea of women out there waiting for you to cast out.
/r/seduction04/12/14 03:41 AM
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/r/askSeddit
/r/seduction03/12/14 06:44 PM
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This doesn't really prove anything my friend. You saw an attractive girl, had a bunch of limiting beliefs, didn't approach. It's not improving if you say, "I hope I don't feel scared like that again." You need to actually approach and overcome that limiting fear.
/r/seduction03/12/14 06:43 PM
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if I fuck this up I may as well say goodbye to all the 10/10 girls here. With risk comes reward. It may be tough, but you can start making moves towards her friend.
/r/seduction03/12/14 04:00 PM
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Exactly what I was going to say, great advice. (I agree immensely on the dad part) OP, take situations like this as an opportunity. You can take this time to become a better you. Workout, learn a bunch of shit, chill with pops, etc. Like /u/Danedina said, this is a great time for self-improvement.
/r/seduction03/12/14 03:54 PM
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are you actually interested in me as a person? Or are you just interested in me because I'm the owner of a vagina? Lol.
/r/seduction03/12/14 03:16 PM
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Unless it's a girl I'm sleeping with, I won't take any girl out for a nice dinner. So yes, I would be mad. You seem like you have serious Nice Guy traits my friend. That's cool if that's who you wanna be, but that's not gonna help you with women.
/r/seduction03/12/14 03:04 PM
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/r/askSeddit
/r/seduction03/12/14 02:35 PM
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I don't even remember what the advice was now. But you just have to change your mindset. Yeah, it sucks a girl would give out her number in front of you; but that's just part of the game. You have to be confident you're the better man in her eyes.
/r/seduction03/12/14 02:20 PM
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Not a problem at all man. Thanks!
/r/seduction03/12/14 02:14 PM
2

Exactly what I was going to say. I would've said something like, "What, are you jealous?"
/r/seduction03/12/14 04:30 AM
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This should be posted in /r/askSeddit my friend. This sub is for intermediate/advanced discussion of Seduction techniques.
/r/seduction03/12/14 04:20 AM
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/r/askSeddit
/r/seduction03/12/14 01:43 AM
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everyone else has had a go at me for my out burst in the texts and gone off on a tangent often from miss reading what I wrote. Maybe you should understand of the negative impact of the text then. Besides wouldnt you be abit weary of advice that goes against reason and your own experience? Of course, but that doesn't mean I'd put it off completely. Your basicly having a go at me without any good reason, giving me very poor advice then getting pissed when I question it or prove it wrong I'm going …
/r/seduction03/12/14 01:41 AM
1

Just ask yourself... What wouldn't Julien Blanc do?
/r/seduction03/12/14 01:00 AM
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thirsty husky hoes And over there, huddling around a spot at the bar, we have a pack of... Thirsty Husky Hoes. Native to dimly lit bars and wreaking of bad-mistakes, we watch as they down Jägerbombs and scope out their prey...
/r/seduction02/12/14 10:14 PM
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dont use it as a reason to back up, a reason to rationalize your anxiety. I understand OPs point. I don't use it as a reason to "back up" or "rationalize anxiety." In fact it's the exact opposite; wanting to improve IS a reason to approach.
/r/seduction02/12/14 10:08 PM
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/r/askSeddit
/r/seduction02/12/14 10:05 PM
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It COULD be the truth, but that's not how I want to think. I want to think that I'm not my very best yet so I can continue to improve.
/r/seduction02/12/14 06:43 PM
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/r/askSeddit
/r/seduction02/12/14 06:27 PM
1

Haha dude, you just don't want to be wrong. Forget asking for advice then.
/r/seduction02/12/14 06:25 PM
1

There's no need to be harsh about it. You're letting her win by getting upset and making it obvious.
/r/seduction02/12/14 04:50 PM
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No, I can't read. I actually pay a very attractive lady to ready every post for me. She also feeds me grapes and I love her. And saying you're okay with her giving out her number as long as it's not in front of you doesn't even begin to justify telling a girl she's a bitch and to fuck off. Also, you're ignoring his advice simply because he called you a dickhead. (the truth)
/r/seduction02/12/14 04:49 PM
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She doesn't belong to you. She can giver her number to whoever the fuck she likes. He was helping you "iron out" your mistakes. He's telling you to change your mindset because like he said, she can give it out to whoever. I mean, she gave it you right?
/r/seduction02/12/14 04:06 PM
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"you missed out" "no, you missed out. Even your friends thought you were a bitch giving your number out infront of me just after receiving mine and leading me on, please fuck off" God, no. I can't believe you'd even think that's okay to say. "you missed out" "That's a shame. I was really enjoying you." Followed by you ignoring her response. It was as simple as that.
/r/seduction02/12/14 04:04 PM
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Now take what you've learned and apply it to your next approach!
/r/seduction02/12/14 03:53 PM
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What should I do? You can say all you want about how this is girl-specific in a defense that it should stay here, but this needs to be in /r/askSeddit.
/r/seduction02/12/14 03:49 PM
1

just tap on her shoulder and this will make her surprised and in a state of shock That's not a good thing my friend.
/r/seduction02/12/14 03:45 PM
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If you're not as emotionally invested in the relationship as you were when you first got in to it, you're only hurting her. You're not doing either of you any good. Severing the tie will only allow for growth on both ends.
/r/seduction02/12/14 03:42 PM
2

I was hoping someone would say this. :P
/r/seduction02/12/14 04:21 AM
1

And it's true because if you're genuinely interested you'll give off a much better vibe than if you're just busting through the talk to try to get laid.
/r/seduction02/12/14 04:08 AM
1

You think? :P
/r/seduction01/12/14 03:08 PM
1

It's tough love but it's needed; if we want to clean up Seddit anyways.
/r/seduction01/12/14 03:08 PM
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I've got a friend who I've got a standing agreement with that I can use his house just off campus if I pick up a girl at a party. That's one hell of a bro. Give that man a beer! converting from KC and making out to the FC, how do I go about it? Do exactly what you did with that one girl. You had plenty of kino, escalated just fine (throwing her against the wall is a clutch move); it just sounds like she wasn't trying to hook up that night. I'd keep her as an option and keep approaching in the me…
/r/seduction01/12/14 06:10 AM
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/r/askSeddit
/r/seduction01/12/14 05:51 AM
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My only guess is the lack of proposing a plan for her. There's a lot of the "What are you up to" and all that but she could've been expecting you to ask her out. while I casually thrown in subtle sexual comments regarding her body and what not. Any specifics?
/r/seduction01/12/14 05:37 AM
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So you're the leader of 2 organizations, get plenty tail, and you're worried about what people think of you? If anything, I'd say you're doing just fine my friend. I wouldn't run around saying I'm a player but I definitely wouldn't be ashamed of my great game. Do whatever makes you happy and forget what people think of you.
/r/seduction01/12/14 05:29 AM
5

I love the emphasis on "don't bang them". :P
/r/seduction01/12/14 05:26 AM
2

I'll be there!
/r/seduction01/12/14 05:24 AM
1

No biggie man!
/r/seduction01/12/14 05:14 AM
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/r/askSeddit
/r/seduction01/12/14 05:12 AM
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You should post this in /r/askSeddit. It's about a girl-specific situation and that's not really what this sub is for. But you need a solid base of kino before you escalate up to a kiss. Check out all of the stuff on the sidebar for the basics.
/r/seduction01/12/14 05:08 AM
0

Jesus, thank you.
/r/seduction01/12/14 04:58 AM
3

Or you can realize that it's a part of the game, and just like every other part should be mastered.
/r/seduction01/12/14 03:05 AM
1

I think it should be common sense to build a connection before trying to number close. But it doesn't hurt to ask for a number just for the hell of it; it's good practice.
/r/seduction01/12/14 02:49 AM
1

I love the Juggler's method, he has such a natural approach to pickup. He really is a master conversationalist; even his vocal tonality just speaking to the interviewer has a unique presence to it.
/r/seduction01/12/14 02:46 AM
1

This is a girl-specific post, which is what /r/askSeddit is for. /r/seduction is for the discussion of seduction techniques and experiences.
/r/seduction01/12/14 02:23 AM
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Oh I fully agree with that. The focus should solely be on becoming the best YOU that you can be. I just don't think finding true love is the goal for every Sedditor so Seddit shouldn't be geared specifically to tailor that. At the end of the day we all just want to be loved, so I can agree that it should be a big part of it.
/r/seduction01/12/14 02:18 AM
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I don't like to think of them as rules. I like to think of them as guidelines, I roughly follow them to set the stage and I fill it with my own personality and interpretations. This makes it a lot more natural and still puts my on a path to success. But to put it shortly, don't let how a female treats you, SPECIALLY a stranger, determine your social behavior, be unreactive. I guess the way I'm saying it makes it sound like you'd be letting her control your emotions, but it's just hard to explain…
/r/seduction01/12/14 02:15 AM
1

That's fine if that's where you messed up. It's not fine if you don't learn from it and let it happen again.
/r/seduction01/12/14 02:10 AM
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What's more important is getting them to like you and want to hang out with you again ... And what do you need to get them to hang out?
/r/seduction01/12/14 02:01 AM
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I can agree with you; askSeddit is kind of hidden. I don't think you'll find it unless you're already in Seddit and have a vague idea of what it's about.
/r/seduction01/12/14 01:55 AM
1

That's awesome. We need more of those to push the posts to the right spot.
/r/seduction01/12/14 01:54 AM
1

It may be but I think it would be too conflicting to merge fPUA with Seddit. I could see that taking a turn for the worse.
/r/seduction01/12/14 01:53 AM
1

So only girls that are low self-esteem and not quality girls will go along with it. Yet, the ones that dont go along with it are the ones that you should be aiming for, because they are less likely to cheat and hold higher family values. I respect your opinion, I really do. But what you're basically saying is the girls that reject you are the ones you need to go after? That's not going to be in my game. I get what you're saying about them putting up a wall meaning they have high self-esteem, but…
/r/seduction30/11/14 04:20 PM
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It can't be 100% solely focused on a love-conclusive direction though. That doesn't appeal to the majority of Sedditors, there will always be those high schoolers just looking to get laid, or the college bros trying to pound out hotties, and there will always be people looking for love. I agree that it should be polarized but not it shouldn't dictate the entire content of Seddit. Just because you're at that point in your life, doesn't mean everyone else is. A kid who just graduated high school a…
/r/seduction30/11/14 03:30 PM
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/r/askSeddit
/r/seduction30/11/14 03:18 PM
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So you're telling me that I'm wrong because I should allow a women to rudely ignore me, and then be open to her the second she decides she wants to talk? Come on man. Of course I don't expect every girl to be open to every approach. I don't have a problem with the fact that there's a lot of girls out there who will just flat out ignore you. Doesn't bother me in the least bit. Those are just not the girls I'm after. It's not a numbers game for me, I'm in it for quality.
/r/seduction30/11/14 02:51 PM
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That's great that you learned and all, OP. But this doesn't really help anyone else. We need details.
/r/seduction30/11/14 02:37 PM
1

Excellent point, this is what I wish beginners would comprehend.
/r/seduction30/11/14 02:31 PM
1

I see where you're coming from. I look at it like it's the same for a girl being turned off by a guy however. A girl doing something like that would certainly turn me off of her pretty quickly. I would probably be like "Are you serious?" If she came over to me later, which sounds like how OP reacted. But I am all for 2nd chances so maybe if she came over with some interesting words I'd give it another go.
/r/seduction30/11/14 02:28 PM
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Oh, he'll love it.
/r/seduction30/11/14 04:44 AM
1

Because you've already "held hands and everything". Is a kiss going to really going to be a big deal? Probably not. Go for it then treat him to some road head afterwards.
/r/seduction30/11/14 04:32 AM
1

Ugh... Just kiss him then.
/r/seduction30/11/14 04:17 AM
1

Telling you that you're "over-analyzing" is not a shit test, she's telling that because you are. You guys established early on that you're going to have a FWB relationship. That means you guys are FRIENDS. She see's you as a friend, you just have the added bonus of sex. If she still feels the same as when you guys started, then it is all you. YOU started getting attached then for some reason asked HER what was wrong. Maybe you're just trying to justify yourself for developing feelings for her, I…
/r/seduction30/11/14 04:07 AM
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we were into the same things, and she was cute. Does it surprise you that she wants to be just friends? You can't just be into the same things and think she's cute to close her. You've gotta kino and escalate physically to establish that you're not trying just be friends, and you need to do this as early on as possible.
/r/seduction30/11/14 03:56 AM
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I wouldn't of even bothered to say anything to her the 2nd time. If she's rude enough to acknowledge you and not even say anything (Even a plain old, "good" is better than that.) when you tried to talk to her, she's not worth your time. You did what I would have done: eject.
/r/seduction30/11/14 03:52 AM
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One idea I had was to create discussion boards. it would be a posts that is about a peace of material. (Models should probably be the first since it is the most popular) and everyone can write questions, or expand on a topic they thought was profound, or point out things they disagree with. That sounds exactly like how normal posts are suppose (keyword; suppose) to go my friend. :p
/r/seduction30/11/14 03:44 AM
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Reading the sidebar definitely helped me build a solid foundation, and it distilled information from this entire community into a relatively concise format. Myself as well. It also made me not have to post a beginner question that I could have easily figured out myself, which is definitely a mistake a lot of these beginners seem make.
/r/seduction30/11/14 12:29 AM
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I agree. The lack of activity in that sub is a big culprit. Time to make some changes!
/r/seduction30/11/14 12:27 AM
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Read everything on the sidebar my friend.
/r/seduction29/11/14 11:53 PM
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I get the feeling that from the moment we hit the bed, she wanted to have sex, but wanted me to earn it. Bingo.
/r/seduction29/11/14 10:38 PM
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We have a unique relationship, a deep bond with one another, when I see her I see family. I also used to use her for experiments when I was studying game. :o
/r/seduction29/11/14 10:32 PM
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Women unfortunately have the upper hand when it comes to actually having sex (Can't have sex with a girl, without the girl), so denying her it when the time comes puts you at a severe disadvantage. Glad you learned this though!
/r/seduction29/11/14 10:27 PM
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If you score girl after girl I wouldn't change much because that you means you have amazing game. If you're pulling girls left and right, you're not going to stop and say, "I should probably get rejected so I can become stronger."
/r/seduction29/11/14 10:12 PM
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Honestly, I think you can come up with more on your own. These are actually pretty entertaining. she: how are you? me: puts arms on her shoulders with a smirk im truly amazing. Might have to try this one out. Sounds like something I'd do!
/r/seduction29/11/14 10:05 PM
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I honestly think a big problem with Seddit right now is the lack of pushing the really green, beginner questions to /r/AskSeddit or other subs. It seems like every other post is about a girl-specific situation or a question about where to start, what to do, etc. Maybe we need to have the Mods get a little more thorough with what stays on Seddit?
/r/seduction29/11/14 10:01 PM
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I absolutely agree. I think making sure to tell the people who come looking for sympathy being the victim that that's exactly what they're doing will lead to more posts from beginners asking for actual questions on improvement and not just a place to vent.
/r/seduction29/11/14 04:14 PM
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Just because I'm part of the community, doesn't mean I need to try every piece of advice given. I have no problem telling a girl what I like about her, that's why I'm not asking for advice. If I did, I sure would be open for trying something like it. I'm not bashing your advice at all man; I'm just saying it was out of the ordinary.
/r/seduction29/11/14 03:43 PM
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I don't think we should just turn our heads on the people who come asking for help. If we do that it'll only turn the community into an elitist gathering of everyone who thinks they know it all. Sometimes the questions are stupid, but everyone should be helping everyone; that's what makes a good community. I agree that they shouldn't come asking for tricks; just tell them that. If we say it enough that, "You're not going to get anywhere with that attitude, check out all the stuff in the sidebar"…
/r/seduction29/11/14 03:40 PM
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I would literally just work on the social skills you feel you need to improve on. Areas such as vocal tonality, body language, conversational skills, facial expressions, etc. I do this all the time myself, and if anything it made the job a lot more enjoyable because you get more than just a paycheck out of it.
/r/seduction29/11/14 03:31 PM
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Understanding the concept of scarcity.
/r/seduction29/11/14 03:27 PM
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The thing is I don't know if this is me really having a lack of interest or if I am just scared. Truthfully I'm scared. You need to embrace change. Change is what will improve you and help you find out who you truly are. Give this girl a chance, even if you don't think the spark is there. Because honestly, you don't know what that feeling is like yet. You might RISK changing your life and find out what you've been doing wrong this whole time.
/r/seduction29/11/14 03:22 PM
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When it comes to escalating, it's two steps forward, one step back. You went from kissing her to trying to take her pants off; that's 2 steps forward then like 10 more forward. Her saying "to soon" is a good indicator of this. You should've you made out with her for a few minutes, feel her up all over, then gone for the pants or the shirt. If you followed the 2 steps forward 1 step back guideline and she still didn't let you in (literally), then I would've froze her out. Turn on the lights if th…
/r/seduction29/11/14 03:17 PM
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Well, did you get her drunk then?
/r/seduction29/11/14 03:08 PM
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Unless your friend really does turn into the AMOG (Which I highly doubt, I'm going to assume it's just your jealousy), you shouldn't let it affect you in any way. If he pulls a girl, give him a high five or tell him that was bad ass. There's no need to be jealous. You should be happy for him; let his success bleed in to your game.
/r/seduction29/11/14 03:05 PM
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and while I'm ready to be comfortable with who I am and what people think of me (because who gives a shit what they think of me, right?), I feel like my world is turned upside down when I see myself from other people's perspective Your problem is you DO give a shit about what people think of you. You have an image in your head of who you think you are and when you don't think people see you like that, you get down on yourself. How do you get over this? Completely eliminate the outside perspectiv…
/r/seduction29/11/14 03:00 PM
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I probably would but I don't have OPs problem lol.
/r/seduction29/11/14 02:52 PM
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I get what you're saying. I think the key would be to follow up their acceptance with some thing to offer to their group. Ask them about whatever is going around you guys, point out something, ask questions, etc.
/r/seduction29/11/14 05:16 AM
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Such a brilliant response.
/r/seduction29/11/14 05:08 AM
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10) When guys say " Give me a chance", most girls will say no. I will not be asking any girl to "give me a chance."
/r/seduction29/11/14 05:07 AM
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Boys are taught that their erections are shameful. Unlearn that. Look at the woman and allow the blood to flow to your cock, when you are fully hard, take a deep breath, let it out slowly, clear your mind, then go and tell her exactly what you like about her. You don't show her your actual erection, but she will sense your desire and be blessed by it. This might be the strangest advice I've come across.
/r/seduction29/11/14 04:52 AM
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MASTURBATE
/r/seduction29/11/14 04:41 AM
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Well it's the same physical process as jerking off, so I don't see how it would be any different. But sex is much more natural; masturbating multiple times a day to suppress sexual desires isn't. I'd like to have a little more insight in this myself, because I won't even begin to pretend like I know what I'm talking about. I'm going off educated guesses here.
/r/seduction29/11/14 12:50 AM
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Hey, anytime man.
/r/seduction29/11/14 12:47 AM
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I'm not going to tell you what to do. If no outside communication works for you then cool. I just know my game would be quite negatively impacted if I cut off communication.
/r/seduction29/11/14 12:46 AM
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if you have confidence and happiness, you dont need anything else imo. I strongly believe this true confidence comes from being passionate and devoted to an activity or hobby that you love. When you do what you love, nothing else matters. Money, cars, jobs (Unless you literally have your dream job); they're all possessions. They will come and go, it's the things you can't buy that will bring you true happiness.
/r/seduction29/11/14 12:34 AM
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I think that's kind of the point of it (I admittedly have not religiously tried NoFap however); to save the sexual tendencies for actually banging a girl rather than jerking it when you can't get one. They may re-zero when you get laid but I think you'd be masturbating a lot more than you'd get laid anyways. And I sure as hell think having sex feels a lot better than masturbating.
/r/seduction29/11/14 12:30 AM
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You can't be one-sided and expect to be great at pickup. What are you going to do when you close a girl, ask for her address so you can write her a letter? You may be against it but times change my friend, and keeping yourself out of the loop, (I hate Facebook and texting as well but I still use both to my advantage) will only, well... Keep you out of the loop. Now, I'm not telling you to conform and be like everybody else, but you should still take what you can from where you can. You don't nee…
/r/seduction29/11/14 12:22 AM
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If it's not really your "scene" then I just wouldn't go there. Unless you're trying to challenge yourself, I would just go to where you feel more natural.
/r/seduction29/11/14 12:12 AM
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As long as you know what you're doing!
/r/seduction29/11/14 12:10 AM
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Yes, yes it is. Now stop doing it.
/r/seduction28/11/14 02:19 AM
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I don't want to rain on your parade, but that's pretty nice guy-ish. I mean, it's totally cool to go show her you're there for her, but make sure she reciprocates it. Make sure the signs are there that she's attracted to you before you go out of your way when she has a "headache".
/r/seduction28/11/14 02:13 AM
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Don't tell her how you feel; show her.
/r/seduction27/11/14 11:42 PM
2

There's nothing wrong with having low-energy game. If it's who you are, that's fine. Look up James Marshall to see what potential you have. I think vocal tonality would be a good thing to work on. If you have a nice, calm, seductive voice, it could be huge for you.
/r/seduction27/11/14 11:37 PM
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Never done it before but I would say it's all about first impressions. I might actually recommend some canned liners for this one. *brace for downvotes*
/r/seduction27/11/14 11:32 PM
2

approach a girl with your hand on your crotch and act like everything's normal That would be hysterical to watch.
/r/seduction27/11/14 11:31 PM
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You're welcome. :)
/r/seduction27/11/14 11:26 PM
3

Absolutely dude, now go get 'em.
/r/seduction27/11/14 11:26 PM
2

It depends on who you are as a person. If you can't hold your shit when you're drunk then you probably shouldn't drink to help your game. If you just loosen up and are more confident when you drink, a couple beers won't hurt. Don't EVER think you need it to sarge though. I enjoy it because it's what I usually go out for; to get drunk with my friends. I could careless about the girls there, it's just a big bonus to score one. I'm just all about having fun, and girls will pick up on this.
/r/seduction27/11/14 09:08 PM
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If you go to a club and you look different than the guys there, you ARE peacocking. You've just gotta work on your game my friend.
/r/seduction27/11/14 09:03 PM
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I would quickly change the subject and make her laugh. Girls like to laugh and they're more comfortable around the guys who make them. If you're talking about being in the context of a girl you were gaming at a prior point in history (Like months ago) however, I wouldn't even bother.
/r/seduction27/11/14 09:00 PM
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I wouldn't have followed that kiss with, "It just seemed like a good idea." It sounds like it was a mistake and you didn't mean it. Nothing you ever do is a mistake (I'm paraphrasing here), but if it is you own up to it. Something along the lines of, "That was for looking so cute." Would've been more beneficial. But it's not really what you say afterwards that matters, it's how you hold your frame. A strong confident smile will ward off any doubts she has. Other than that I think you know what y…
/r/seduction27/11/14 08:55 PM
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A lot of the community is about strategy, as if the woman is a challenge They ARE a challenge. (Well, the good ones anyway) If it wasn't a challenge we'd all be getting laid left and right and this sub wouldn't exist. I'm not saying it's a bad thing either; I love that it's a challenge. Makes it so much more fun. But I agree that you have to be natural about it. Routines and lines are fine as long as it's still your personality bleeding through the words and your actions back it up.
/r/seduction27/11/14 08:42 PM
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I'm cracking up
/r/seduction27/11/14 08:35 PM
1

Wow I totally read that as bartender haha.
/r/seduction27/11/14 08:34 PM
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so I decided to man up and come introduce myself! I do not encourage using this line. It implies to her that you are not a man.
/r/seduction27/11/14 02:16 PM
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I honestly can't say I've ever had a bartender ask me my name. May try it if the time comes though!
/r/seduction27/11/14 02:12 PM
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Every AFC needs to be redirected here.
/r/seduction27/11/14 02:10 PM
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I believe you have to be a good blend of both. You don't need to be a douche to get attractive girls, but you can't be a push over either. There's nothing wrong with holding a door for a girl, but there's also nothing wrong with not being there for her every waking call either. Sometimes I'll tell a girl no just so she knows that I'm not going to be controlled. If that makes me a douche, so be it. You've just got figure out what works for you. Some lean more towards either side of the spectrum, …
/r/seduction27/11/14 02:09 PM
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Are you asking for advice? You're making the right moves; talking to her when you see her, ATTEMPTING to drop some kino. (I am however going to take a shot in the dark here and say girls probably don't like being touched out of the blue when they're eating) It sounds like she's giving you plenty of IOI's, so next time you see her I would try to #-close. Then set up a date as quick as possible and game her like a boss.
/r/seduction27/11/14 01:57 PM
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I think this should be in /r/relationships buuuuuuuuttt... Just start teasing him here and there. Give him that sexy smile every now and then when you can sneak it in, give him massages, etc. If that doesn't work, just tell him straight that you're upset because he's not giving you the D. It's a whole hell of a lot better than just putting up with it and then going and cheating on him.
/r/seduction27/11/14 01:53 PM
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I honestly don't have any recommendations for story telling books, it's not something I've ever felt I need to work on. I would start with the basics of story telling, which would be speech and build up from there. Maybe do a google search on good speech books. As far as going too far with negging, I wouldn't call out a girl on: her weight, a big scar or something that's easily noticeable that may make her feel uncomfortable, something you know she's sensitive to, etc. You've just got to say stu…
/r/seduction27/11/14 02:41 AM
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Because everything's so fast paced these days. The longer you wait with intentions, the worse off you are. You can still make a girl "chase" you, but you've gotta pretty much already have her in the bag.
/r/seduction27/11/14 01:50 AM
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If enough rapport is built throughout the day, I don't see a problem in asking for a number at the end of the day. If anything, you can use the excuse of keeping in touch for future business as a reason to ask for a number.
/r/seduction27/11/14 01:43 AM
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I honestly think texts are overrated. Just because the girl you made out with last night doesn't respond to your text within 5 minutes, doesn't mean she hates your guts. Unless days pass without a reply, I usually don't even think twice about texts.
/r/seduction27/11/14 01:38 AM
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You must not be looking in the right spots because I see it being recommended all the time. There's nothing wrong with going to Therapy or counseling. It could be the key to what holds back a person from becoming their best self. Especially if their problems are mostly mental.
/r/seduction27/11/14 01:35 AM
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I didn't even need to respond. This is exactly what I meant.
/r/seduction27/11/14 01:30 AM
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That's not what I meant. I meant to do the things that make you happy instead of trying to find the perfect girl. Of course I mean still go out and sarge. Especially if it's what makes you happy. But just being in a happy, confident state will put you on the right track to landing quality girls.
/r/seduction27/11/14 01:27 AM
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Absolutely. I'm Puerto Rican (and a few other things) and I love it when people ask me about my ethnicity. Girls love my tan, and it seems to be the thing for them (mostly referring to white girls) to compare their fake tan to my natural tan. I also have no problem hearing the typical "Mexican" jokes that come with the territory of being tan. I'm too witty to be put down anyways.
/r/seduction26/11/14 07:48 PM
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I think a good guideline is to never be more drunk than the girl you're sarging. I know when I'm too drunk because I start to slur my words, and at that point, I'm no good. I'd sound like an idiot trying to pick up a girl after that.
/r/seduction26/11/14 07:41 PM
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Absolutely. A lot of dudes on here recommend going for the K-Close midway through the first date. It pretty much blasts away most if not all possibilities of getting friendzoned. I personally don't think it's a top priority, but if the opportunity presents itself, absolutely go for it. You've got to have a solid physical connection established before you go for it, otherwise she's most likely to hold back. Like /u/MedDog said; Do NOT pressure her to drink. She doesn't need to drink for you to ga…
/r/seduction26/11/14 07:32 PM
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I fully agree with this. It doesn't matter if it's a factor or not. In No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover he talks about surrendering. Focusing on what you can change (looks (to an extent), clothes, inner game, etc.), and letting go of what you can't. Race is something that's with you for life, embrace every bit of it.
/r/seduction26/11/14 07:26 PM
1

It wasn't a nervous laugh, it was genuine because I realized that I didn't give a fuck. Good job. A funny thing you could've said to the chick walking by was, "What, jealous I didn't ask for yours?" then proceed to laugh and tell HB7 she's cute. And I don't think it was a bad thing that you told her she was cute as a reason for her number. If you opened with it, it might of been a different story. But the fact that she put her number in your phone RIGHT after you told her that was a good sign. I…
/r/seduction26/11/14 07:17 PM
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I may take up reading more as I don't remember the last time I've even picked up a book. Meditation also sounds like a good idea. This. Don't make dating a priority. Just do the things you love and the good relationships will come to you.
/r/seduction26/11/14 07:03 PM
3

I am not in the least bit mad about that fact either.
/r/seduction26/11/14 07:01 PM
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"The drink was nice, but now let's REALLY party." Then whip out a fat sack of blow and do lines off her titties.
/r/seduction26/11/14 03:41 PM
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Obstacles I don't even normally approach girls with headphones on. I feel like it puts me at a disadvantage if I try to bother her to take them off. DHV You've just got to be well versed in something you're interested in to show higher value. If you're looking to be great at story telling, read as many books on speech and social stuff like that and practice telling your friends stories. Telling stories would be an easy thing to practice. Negging Negging is easy for me because I'm naturally a sma…
/r/seduction26/11/14 03:36 PM
1

A year and a half stay in the friendzone is a very, very hard spot to get out of. You need to understand the risk of trying to get out of it. If you value the relationship, I wouldn't recommend it. It honestly has probably been too long. But if you're okay with taking risks, tell her you want to go on a date and start escalating with her. You need to go into it with the mindset that you're totally okay with the fact that you may never see her again if you go for it. It CAN be done though, my fri…
/r/seduction26/11/14 03:23 PM
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Julien said with one specific girl he tried 18 FUCKING TIMES before she didn't refuse him. What the hell. I would've gave her 2, MAYBE 3 chances. 18 though?! My god, she better of had lips like Angelina Jolie or something.
/r/seduction26/11/14 03:16 PM
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You're not going to get friendzoned. You've made your intentions well known, and if she just wants to be friends she's not making it very clear. You did great with all the kino-ing and taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back as far escalating goes, I just think she's not super comfortable around you yet. So just take it slow, or find more girls if you don't want to wait.
/r/seduction26/11/14 03:14 PM
1

Invest as much as you can in yourself. Work out, read self improvement books, work on a hobby, etc. This will boost your confidence exponentially and make you more interesting to women.
/r/seduction26/11/14 04:30 AM
1

You need to get out of your head. You have all of these made up ideas in your head and you've "never progressed from friendship to any sexual relationship"? Put all of your theories and ideas aside and just go out and have fun. If/when you get laid, get a gf, etc. Then decide about how you truly feel about relationships.
/r/seduction25/11/14 04:30 AM
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Don't mess with success. Don't worry about a "rule" about not being super available. If things are great with her and she's not turned off by you being available, then what's the problem? If she starts losing interest you, then you should pump the brakes and be a little hesitant availability-wise.
/r/seduction25/11/14 04:25 AM
2

Gotta respect a man on a mission. Good luck dude!
/r/seduction24/11/14 07:30 PM
5

"Hope I didn't catch you too off guard the other day. Let's get coffee sometime and get to know each other a little better."
/r/seduction24/11/14 02:56 PM
2

That messed me up real bad and I told myself I would never ever play around again ever and never use game stuff. Maybe you just need to come back to the dark side. ;)
/r/seduction24/11/14 02:51 PM
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I didn't even feel like texting HB9. But why not? It seems like such an easy target and apparently she's smoking, ready to be closed. I would just text her with an offer for a date or drinks, go and escalate the shit out of her, then bounce to your place or something. No need for a bunch of b.s. texting. You could even challenge yourself to see how little texting you need to do to f-close her. Great FR by the way man.
/r/seduction24/11/14 02:45 PM
1

This absolutely. There are no off days when you're constantly improving yourself every day. Don't worry too much about having an off night, that's not what it's about. Failing means you're improving, as long as you're learning from your mistakes.
/r/seduction24/11/14 04:41 AM
5

"Yes I club often. Very often. I'm known 'round these parts as 'Caveman'."
/r/seduction24/11/14 04:33 AM
2

The gig chick would be a breeze man. You could've asked her if she's with a band, if she plays anything, what kind of music she's in to (if it's not obvious), what she thought of your set (And tell her to be brutally honest), etc.
/r/seduction23/11/14 02:50 PM
1

Buy her a helmet.
/r/seduction23/11/14 02:21 PM
1

A good way to switch this one up would be to say you're going to the bathroom or something and give her a kiss on the cheek. This way you take the lead and she won't be caught off guard when you go in for the real kiss.
/r/seduction23/11/14 02:20 PM
1

You probably came off as desperate asking them to come back to your hotel like 6 times. I wouldn't have even told them to come back until way later, and I would've only brought it up once. Also claiming to be gay to get them to come back is VERY desperate. (Unless you clearly deliver it as a joke) You did good by walking away the first time you brought up the idea of them coming back with you, however.
/r/seduction22/11/14 11:33 PM
1

No, it's not a shit test. A shit test is something a girl will say to make you qualify yourself to her. She honestly just sounds like she lost interest, but as always; judging texts is a bad idea. I asked her to message me when she feels better and tell me if she's got time. This is coming off as way too available. The way to go about it would've been something like, "That sucks. [Referring to her "not feeling good"] Hope you feel better." and leave it at that. If she's interested, she'd get a h…
/r/seduction22/11/14 11:06 PM
1

Since you're into Style's methods, give the Soul-Gazing routine a try. That's where you tell her to stare into your right eye and you stare in to hers, then go in for the kiss when the moment's right.
/r/seduction22/11/14 10:59 PM
1

It's funny. I always catch myself switching the two forms (usually everyone just says your for everything). Good call. :p
/r/seduction22/11/14 10:55 PM
1

I limited myself. I didn't touch her sexually, and I didn't kiss her. Doing either of these is tempting, but kills the feeling of escalation and want. I fueled the sexual drive by holding these things back. That's a pretty risky move, but if you're confident in your control over the situation it can be golden. Job well done!
/r/seduction21/11/14 10:07 PM
1

In the last few weeks I had two great opportunities, but I'm actually scared of sex. I'm worried about underperforming, especially if it's a girl I'll only fuck one time and also I'm worried, because I don't know if my dick will be oversensitive (foreskin) and because my erection angle is not very flexible (pointing upwards can't bend it down to 90 degrees at all), so I'm worried about not being able to fuck her properly. ( just missionary and some variation of cowgirl comes to mind) You can hav…
/r/seduction21/11/14 10:03 PM
3

buttcrack cleavage Well done
/r/seduction21/11/14 09:59 PM
2

I'm not exactlly beautiful but I think I could win her if I'm able to speak to her for such a long time *Deep breath* You're throwing a party, that already gives you higher value. She's coming to YOU'RE party. You have a golden ticket as far as social proofing goes. She needs to win YOU over, present yourself in such a way.
/r/seduction21/11/14 09:52 PM
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That's great, for real. Just don't treat her like she's some angel sent from heaven though. Don't give her all of your attention or be super available. You'll do fine!
/r/seduction21/11/14 09:48 PM
1

Forget the whole "I'm a virigin" excuse. I assure you, you won't be any different after you have sex, you'll just have the experience of having sex. So just work on your social skills and inner game and you'll get there eventually. It's kind of hard for me to tell you how to become funny. Watch stand up comedians that use a lot of sexual innuendo and see how they incorporate it in what they say. Read books on humor, youtube videos, what ever you can find.
/r/seduction21/11/14 09:39 PM
2

Nothing worth having comes easy. :)
/r/seduction21/11/14 09:35 PM
2

You've got to understand just how much an attractive looking girl gets hit on daily though. I can agree with the point about it making you seem like you're confident because you're going straight for the gold, but I prefer to be intriguing to get a girl's attention. Once again; not against it by any means. I'm sure if I get bored one day I'll drop a direct opener like that just for kicks. But it's just not my style, like you said it's all about just doing your own thing!
/r/seduction21/11/14 09:33 PM
1

Hmm... Well I don't really know what else to suggest at this point, maybe you're just legitimately not interested in the girl?
/r/seduction21/11/14 09:24 PM
1

As I stated, I'm not completely against it. It's not in MY arsenal because I believe it puts you right in line with every other guy that's came up to her and told her that.
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:53 PM
1

Well the good news is it's not an irreversible problem, so keep going out and chipping away at it. And yes, if the girl gives you strong eye contact for a couple of seconds, and smiles, definitely go over there. Within 3 seconds of seeing her, walk over there. It doesn't matter what you say as long as you make yourself do it within those 3 seconds because after those 3 seconds, you'll start to doubt yourself and come up with excuses to not approach her. (This is a guideline for all approaches in…
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:48 PM
2

That's why it's there. :)
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:45 PM
1

Playing hard to get (If she's coming on too strong) shows the girl that you have plenty of confidence in yourself and you don't have to give her all of your attention, so I don't know where you're coming from saying that's a quality of someone with low confidence. I do agree that a man with high confidence has no problem ejecting.
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:44 PM
1

Find more girls that have more time than only every 2 weeks.
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:39 PM
1

Thanks homie!
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:37 PM
1

Well if you're in a monogamous relationship there's not really any point to date other girls because you already have what you want. It's called not being loyal if you have a girlfriend and still go on dates with other girls behind her back.
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:37 PM
2

Well then, you're off to a good start!
/r/seduction20/11/14 04:23 AM
2

Dating =/= relationships Right. Excessive dating usually leads to relationships in one way or another, be it friends or what have you. I look at dating as if I'm literally taking a girl on dates, but she's my girlfriend when I decide to make things exclusive. Society definitely leans more towards "dating" meaning "taken" which is not the case. So abiding to society's terms, it's okay to take multiple women out on dates at the same time (not literally the same time, but you get it) because you're…
/r/seduction20/11/14 04:18 AM
2

If she's playful when you guys chat, that's a good sign. Just try setting up a date with her and see how it turns out. If she flakes, it's time to open more sets. (Get more girls)
/r/seduction20/11/14 04:11 AM
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/u/evergonitenitenigga has a great example for you. Do it just like that. Even from the start he puts the conversation on the right track. me: lounging. cuddling. with myself. (I'm assuming) He added the "with myself" part to expose that the spot's open for someone to cuddle with. And judging by the girl's response, she wants to fill that spot. You've just got to be "Sexually Witty" if that makes any sense.
/r/seduction20/11/14 04:07 AM
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her: how much you cost? me: im negotiable. for you 50% clothes off. Oohhh my that's such a clutch move.
/r/seduction20/11/14 03:35 AM
5

I've heard pushing her head into your crotch works wonders
/r/seduction20/11/14 03:29 AM
8

I love reading advice like this.
/r/seduction20/11/14 03:23 AM
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You looked really cute so I wanted to come over and say hi. Wanna give me your number? I don't know if you're asking for advice, but I think this was a little too strong. I'm not a big proponent of telling a girl she's cute as an opener; but if it's how you open, that's cool. The second thing you say to a girl you just opened shouldn't be asking for her number. I applaud your confidence though! :p
/r/seduction20/11/14 03:18 AM
8

Not blatantly, but if they ask there's absolutely no need to lie. You're single and have the right to date whoever you want.
/r/seduction20/11/14 03:11 AM
2

You won't know if you like it or not until you try it. So don't even both worrying about it until you lift for the first time, then see if you like it. I've been lifting years now and I still love it. I learned how to lift from surfing the internet and just learning the basics. Then I found a work out and went for it. There's a bunch of fundamental stuff that transfers over to every work out you do that I can't begin to teach you. I would recommend starting with a friend, it'll just be a lot bet…
/r/seduction20/11/14 03:06 AM
2

Not really. I mean; you can apply these guidelines while in high school and get girls, but you're not really there to learn about seduction. Nor are the girls there the ideal targets to pick up. You can drop the best game and they might be oblivious to what an attractive male acts like because you're at a stage where everything is about impulse and no one's really on their own path. Just have fun with it and learn from the awkwardness that comes with relationships in high school.
/r/seduction20/11/14 02:55 AM
2

That's what it's all about my friend, as long as you're having fun don't let anyone slow your roll!
/r/seduction20/11/14 02:44 AM
1

Well if you're happy at your moms, that's cool. It's even better if she doesn't care if you have girls over. As far as places to go. Do you work out? If not you should think about giving fitness a try. I cannot even begin to list the benefits that come from it, but I could start with the huge attraction boosts. It will also get you out of the house and into a more socially-rich environment. It's cool to be into gaming and what not but if you're serious about becoming a better "man" (You've still…
/r/seduction20/11/14 02:40 AM
0

I'm just going to leave it at the fact that I know you're trying to make a single girl sound unique so that you're motivated to go after her. I think that's putting her on a pedestal and a sure way to Oneitis. But that's what opinions are for!
/r/seduction20/11/14 02:17 AM
2

You'll be unsure about all those things until you go out and start being who you truly want to be. That's good that your first goal is to get your own place. If you want it bad enough, pick up another job to put more money towards it!
/r/seduction20/11/14 02:02 AM
1

I stopped reading when I got to: It’s true, however. There are plenty and plenty of fish out there, but not one catch is the same. The one that just got away could have been your strongest love, one that completely clicks with you, and potentially your significant other. Is that really what you want to share when half the guys on seddit are dealing with Oneitis? Abundance Mentality is absolutely key to being successful with women. So telling people that "no girl is the same" and that she "could'…
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:53 AM
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More details would be clutch. But, maybe tell her you guys should get together sometime since you live so close. Then initiate operation "Pound Town", which consists of her taking a ride on the Pain Train to downtown Pound Town. No but for real, established a physical connection early on and always be escalating.
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:43 AM
1

Maybe you're not being clear enough about how you feel, if you don't think you're being controlling. Tell the girl how you feel. And make sure you say feel as well. "I don't like when you ____ because it makes me feel ____ ." Also, avoiding conflict is a nice guy trait, and is unattractive to women. Have you read No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover? Might be beneficial to give it a read.
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:33 AM
4

Let me tell you what I wish I did when I was in the exact same spot as you a few years ago: Figure out what you want in life and start going for it right now. Don't bother with the b.s. hanging out all the time that everyone does when they're fresh out of highschool. You've got a job, great. Now save up, get your own place (very important for pickup), and start working towards your goals. If you wanna go to college for whatever, cool; go. If you're trying to become a writer; start writing. Peopl…
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:25 AM
1

Oh you'll be plenty able my friend. Just have fun!
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:18 AM
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Seriously. If she's that receptive to the date plans you'll have no problem. All that's left is for you to move your hand OP. Hug her as soon as you see her, get as close as you can to her as you go through the initial b.s. small talk when you first talk to her. Put something on netflix, cuddle with her, escalate like a hot knife through butter, bang her with ease, kick her out the door. The last one's optional but seriously, it's smooth sailing OP.
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:16 AM
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High reciprocation to sexual references, kino, and easy to escalate. Lack of interest in small talk. May even show it in what they wear. Very receptive to humor (Unless they have no sense of humor). You really have to convey your intentions though to thoroughly get these signs. That's why leading is so important.
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:09 AM
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So usually I go out looking as perfect as possible and plan well in advance and end up obsessing over one girl, today however it was spontaneous, I looked a bit shitty and I left the girl I had wanted to get on to go off with some other blokes. So you mean when you finally did something different you saw results? :o
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:03 AM
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Did you tell her about the surgery? Vulnerability is a big sign of confidence; so I would just tell her you're holding off because you're insecure about your stitches.
/r/seduction20/11/14 01:00 AM
1

Why be that controlling? Unless it's something that legitimately bothers you, like she's saying a word that offends you or something, there's no need for it. Being over-controlling is a huge turn off, so I all I can say is to try to eliminate that habit. Would you want a girl you really like to act like that to you? Just look for the good in the girls you spend time with.
/r/seduction20/11/14 12:57 AM
2

They're everywhere. You don't need to go for the hottest of the hottest, just go for girls you're genuinely interested in. And you'll find THEM by opening and more opening. Or if you're really that big on texting you can try Tinder or something like that.
/r/seduction20/11/14 12:51 AM
4

Lol I pictured a dude stopping mid-date and saying that.
/r/seduction20/11/14 12:49 AM
0

Play hard to get and show her that she's not in control.
/r/seduction20/11/14 12:47 AM
2

Gauge her response based on the number "Since we're talking about numbers, you should let me have yours"
/r/seduction20/11/14 12:40 AM
1

/u/Raqlobster nailed it. You're taking too long to let her know what your intentions are. It's possible at this point you're friendzoned or she's not interested. If there's a next time, show her how you feel. Don't tell her; show her.
/r/seduction20/11/14 12:35 AM
2

If you're used to girls coming on to you, I would assume you come off as boring to the girls that you actually approach. The guy's supposed to lead, so if you don't do that they're not going to seem interested. It doesn't matter if they don't chat first, or if they don't set up the dates; you're the guy, you can take the initiative and get the ball rolling.
/r/seduction20/11/14 12:32 AM
2

I am not afraid of being rejected, I just can't seem to bring myself to open the set. If you didn't fear rejection you wouldn't be scared to open the set. If a girl ever signals you to come over, don't even think; just go over. Let her lead if you're that stuck on what to do. And definitely do not let one girl ruin your outlook on approaching. She's not in your life so she shouldn't have any effect on it.
/r/seduction20/11/14 12:27 AM
2

Do that with 5 girls and you won't have that anxiety my friend.
/r/seduction20/11/14 12:22 AM
1

"you wish" you could have the context.
/r/seduction20/11/14 12:19 AM
3

Compliment a piece of clothing she's wearing, or some jewelry, mention the weather. Stuff like that. Every attractive girl is used to guys coming up to them telling them how beautiful they are.
/r/seduction20/11/14 12:16 AM
1

If they look away it's supposedly a IOD. I think it doesn't matter because everyone's different and just cause a girl looks down doesn't mean she's gonna be all over me.
/r/seduction20/11/14 12:11 AM
2

There's just gotta be that moment. Usually when your eyes lock with hers and there's that moment of silence, that's it. Sometimes it doesn't happen, which just means you need to do more kino and escalating. Or just take it that the sparks not there and move on.
/r/seduction20/11/14 12:08 AM
2

Looks like he's the one getting screwed.
/r/seduction19/11/14 05:14 PM
1

However, being clever, being a leader, those characteristics greatly increased odds of survival. That's an awesome way to put it.
/r/seduction19/11/14 05:07 PM
2

It sounds like you're really shooting the kiss out of the blue. Definitely place the kiss in a much more appropriate time. You should also try implementing the 90/10 rule next time and see how it works. (You go in 90% of the way for the kiss and let her come the last 10%) Sounds like you're not giving them many options for the kiss.
/r/seduction19/11/14 02:01 PM
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In my experience, the only time you can make something out of it is when THEY get a hold of YOU. It's not really worth it to bother though, just gotta keep making more options and don't worry about the ones that get sifted through.
/r/seduction19/11/14 01:54 PM
2

The “game” is mostly over when you’re actually approaching her. I'm sorry, but no. The "game" is very much alive after you approach as well. Just because you approach the girl doesn't mean you're going to get her number or make out with her just by greeting her. You have to play your cards right, bounce off what she puts out, advance, etc. I would say it's equally split between preparation and execution. Preparation requires dedication and commitment and a successful execution requires great pre…
/r/seduction19/11/14 01:51 PM
3

That mentality will dissipate when you realize that all girls are human. You're human; do you think girls should be petrified to talk to you? Once I understood that, I have no problem approaching girls of higher caliber. I think nothing of it when I talk to one because they're really no different than anybody else, and it's so truthful. Putting a high caliber girl on a pedestal will only make your approach that much more difficult (You're going to think you don't have enough value for her). Just…
/r/seduction19/11/14 01:36 PM
3

I'm assuming when you said that he "said he liked her" you meant he showed her right? That's all it takes. Put yourself out there, face the possible rejection. Learn that it doesn't effect you at all in a negative way unless you foolishly let it.
/r/seduction19/11/14 01:29 PM
2

Do you mess around at all when you're with a girl? I usually joke a lot and when she laughs she'll punch me lightly or I'll grab her shoulder. It's light touching like that leads up to the bigger stuff because it gets her comfortable with your touch. It gets her warmed up to you and makes her overall more comfortable around you. That's all it's about; laying a foundation and slowly building up to a completed building (Closing, in regards to seduction). Hug her when you see her, randomly hug her …
/r/seduction19/11/14 01:26 PM
3

Good, don't go in with the intention of pickup! It's much more natural that way.
/r/seduction19/11/14 03:50 AM
1

You'll just have to get over your fear of being touchy. You've gotta establish a baseline with the girl that you're not just trying to be friends. The earlier you get this point across the better.
/r/seduction19/11/14 03:48 AM
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Beautiful, beautiful examples. I ALWAYS hug a girl when I see her and when I leave, it's such an easy way to establish a base for kino. I love using the hand on the shoulder thing as well, as I make a lot of jokes. But it's just all about setting up the next phase.
/r/seduction19/11/14 03:40 AM
1

Don't let anyone control your emotions. You have the power to let someone elses actions control you or let have no effect on you at all. And that's what they're going for when they're being a douche bag or trying to be dominant; they just want know that they have control over you. Just do you and if some moron wants to play tough guy, laugh it off and let him.
/r/seduction19/11/14 03:30 AM
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This is kind of vague, there's not much to go off of. It sounds like you opened her then ejected when you found out she was in HS, which was a good move I'd say. Glad you made your first approach though, once you take that first step you're on your way!
/r/seduction19/11/14 03:23 AM
1

Now just plan for the next time it works and stay cool. :)
/r/seduction19/11/14 03:16 AM
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Slap him and tell him he's putting her on a pedestal.
/r/seduction19/11/14 03:14 AM
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I think the problem is I'm not good at being flirty and expressing interest - girls always tell me weeks later that they thought I wasn't interested in them. This is exactly your problem. If you're not expressing that interest what do they have to go off of? You don't necessarily need to compliment them, that's usually a nice guy move, but getting intimate with them is a must if you want to develop a sexual relationship. Think about it; guys always lead. If you don't make your intentions clear (…
/r/seduction19/11/14 03:10 AM
1

I'm right there with you. That's why FWB are golden, because there's freedom along with the benefits of a partner you enjoy.
/r/seduction19/11/14 03:04 AM
1

You bet. And that's awesome. You've got a job and you're working out regularly which means you're able to take care of yourself. You'll be just fine man, just keep working on yourself and get out and have fun! :)
/r/seduction18/11/14 10:00 PM
2

There's a time and a place for the typical responses, but in this situation where the girl wasn't looking to hook up quickly, answering like a player is only going to push her away a bit; hence her put off reaction. I'm a smart ass so when she asked, "How many girls have you picked up before?" I would've said something like, "Well if I bend at the knees I can pickup at least two if they're average weight" or something like that. Instead of a rushed response like, "am I supposed to remember?"
/r/seduction18/11/14 09:58 PM
1

I couldn't have said it better man.
/r/seduction18/11/14 09:49 PM
1

Yeah I don't understand the whole LTR without getting married. Maybe they're aware of the gloomy future that's ahead of them if they do marry. (As you can tell I'm not big on marriage)
/r/seduction18/11/14 09:47 PM
3

This is one of the best things I've read on here yet. This would solve about 85% of the problem most dudes have on this sub. The other 15% probably being a fear of rejection.
/r/seduction18/11/14 03:53 AM
1

You didn't put yourself in a dilemma. You made a decision and went through with it, nothing wrong with that at all. That's what happens when you become a man. Just take your time figuring out what you want in life and keep improving yourself. Women will come, especially when you don't go and try to find them. The social freedom does drop quite a bit when you're out of school, so use that isolation time to work on your self. Get a job if you don't have one already. Then you can have money to go o…
/r/seduction18/11/14 03:43 AM
2

Oh absolutely. If a girl said that to me, she would instantly vanish from existence in my mind. Just get out there and approach girls in places you're not used to; build up a repertoire. Then when a girl rejects you, you just go through your phone and pick another one to take out.
/r/seduction18/11/14 03:22 AM
1

All I can picture is the scene in Joe Dirt where he's spraying the glass with Pam so no one can make it in and that girl walks up to him.
/r/seduction18/11/14 03:07 AM
1

That's actually really cool.
/r/seduction18/11/14 03:05 AM
3

No women will ever take away my right to wear shorts at home. I would just say dress light in stuff you think looks good, and feels good. I'm all about t-shirt and shorts at home, maybe throw a hoodie on if it's a little cold. Moccasins if I want some foot wear. But I'm a casual mofo so maybe I'm just dressing too "light". If friends are coming over for drinks or something I'll dress more towards how I do when I go out, but if we're just hanging you bet I'm in my shorts.
/r/seduction18/11/14 03:01 AM
2

Quick theory I just thought: Dogs are renowned for their therapeutic effects on humans. Having a dog might already put the girl in a relaxed and comfortable mood before conversation, literally making it easier to game her. It is cheating!
/r/seduction18/11/14 02:49 AM
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Yeah, your friend didn't fail at winging for you. You said like 4 times, "... but I didn't make a move." Next time (if there is one), make a move and see how it turns out. Also: We hung out, (with my intention of hooking up) You WILL get friendzoned if you don't make your intentions known.
/r/seduction18/11/14 02:43 AM
1

Oh, uh...I'm busy. I'm sorry, but that's kind of funny. That's seriously the best she's got? She was clearly just about hooking up for that one night. I'm going to assume your problem is a lack of options? You'll never get over one girl unless you come across another one, but luckily for you my friend, there's A LOT of them out there.
/r/seduction18/11/14 02:38 AM
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Then drop something like, "I think you're really nice, let's go out sometime so I can get to know you better." She'll either laugh and say yes or laugh and say no. She's getting paid to be nice so she's not going to freak out on you or anything. If she says yes, assume that she is interested in you.
/r/seduction18/11/14 02:34 AM
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Ask your friends how they do it if it really matters to you that much. Maybe since they never see you in pictures they think you don't want your picture taken?
/r/seduction18/11/14 02:32 AM
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I agree with you, but I think it depends on how attached the girl was to the guy. For sure most highly attractive girls don't stay single for long, but if she was with a guy for years she might just be trying to fill a hole. (Pun intended)
/r/seduction18/11/14 02:26 AM
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If you go all out and smother her right from the start she's going to either be turned off or she'll get bored of you once you can't show her all that attention all the time.
/r/seduction18/11/14 02:23 AM
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I love it
/r/seduction18/11/14 02:21 AM
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That's way too direct unless you already have it in the bag/couldn't give a shit about her response. The way to do it would be to say let's study together, then game her when she comes over/you go over. (After the studying of course ;) )
/r/seduction18/11/14 02:20 AM
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Ugh, bro. Check out the stuff on the side bar, there's so much to learn. You have her on a huge pedestal. You have no idea if she has any interest in you. You have a terrible fear of rejection. I think you should be approaching girls more up your alley than an older girl that gets paid to be nice and help you. Hit the club or bar and start making options.
/r/seduction18/11/14 02:09 AM
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If she really does owe you it, just be like, "Hey can I come grab the money for that dinner?" and then go and get it and just say thanks and leave if that's all you really want. If doesn't matter at all how you seem to her. (Unless that is... You actually DO care about seeing her again.)
/r/seduction17/11/14 04:40 PM
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I'm needy as fuck with women right now, because I want to nut. This is your problem right now; not the nofap. You can jerk it all you want as long as it doesn't hinder your ability to approach women and be confident when you're with them. BUT, striking out with women and then going home and fapping to suppress your sexual desires instead of working on your game, will hurt your ability. Now I'm NOT telling you go fap just to bust a nut, because I know that shit is blasphemy in that subreddit, but…
/r/seduction17/11/14 04:34 PM
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Good; that is the alpha move. Knowing you don't need her and moving on is what it takes to be high value.
/r/seduction17/11/14 04:25 PM
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Im really not into this girl anymore Well that was quick. As long as you're focused on other girls and not solely on her, you'll be fine. Definitely implement the technique I said to isolate a girl from a group. It's a golden move.
/r/seduction17/11/14 04:24 PM
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I just like to find holes in the conversation to fill in with a sign of my intentions. If she says something that I can snap back with an obvious sign of what I want (Some sexual reference, kino, escalating etc.); then I will. For example: (From a recent hang with a girl I'm gaming) Her: Do I have something in my eye? [I stare into her eyes disregarding the concern of anything in her eye] Me: Nope, they still look beautiful as ever. Obviously this is not going to get me laid and I was clearly be…
/r/seduction17/11/14 04:17 PM
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I suppose I'm trying to be on the same page without actually doing so. Hahah well put!
/r/seduction17/11/14 04:06 PM
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Well, luckily for you, detail is my strong suit. (Even though if it's obvious, you shouldn't be needing help.) If you see her with a group of people, go up to the group and engage conversation with other people beside her. Alienate her from the group and when she tries to intervene, use a neg to put yourself higher up value wise. Lines like, "Is she always this pushy?" will get the job done. If you do manage to alienate her and then peak her interest her, she's clearly into guys that are interes…
/r/seduction17/11/14 04:03 PM
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I'd be okay with sleeping around as long as there are no other relationships going on. Maybe I'm reading that wrong, but that doesn't make much sense. If you're genuinely irritated at her having another fuck buddy, then eject. She's single and has that right to bang whoever she wants.
/r/seduction17/11/14 03:55 PM
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Trust your gut man. If you don't want to be a "texting bitch" then don't; but if you're interested in her and she reciprocates that feeling, don't let some dumb rule stop you. You understand where the text-game comes in to play (mostly for setting up dates, brief conversation, etc), so just implement it where you feel needed, and save the important progression (Kino, escalating) stuff for face to face interactions.
/r/seduction17/11/14 03:50 PM
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You must look pretty damn good, sounds like HB9 was interested right from the start. I gotta say you did a great job man. Displaying high value (finished law school, got a job) Delt with the AMOG (apparently your roommate getting jelly) Didn't put all of your attention on HB9 (Talking to HS crush, other hot girls, etc. Very, very good move.) Focusing on kino, and not giving up on it when she doesn't reciprocate (sometimes they don't reciprocate right off the bat, she probably just needed to warm…
/r/seduction17/11/14 03:45 PM
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There's honestly only a few flaws I can point out, /u/recyclablebantha gave you the majority of them. Taking her to the smoking room was kind of pointless. It made it seem like you were doing something you didn't really want to, and that will put a girl off. She was definitely giving you those shit tests to gauge your actual interest in her. You're mindset was "Jesus I just want to bang you already" so you flew through them with the usual PUA responses. As you noticed, she didn't enjoy that. Als…
/r/seduction17/11/14 03:32 PM
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Theoretically speaking; you're putting on her a pedestal the size of Mt. Vesuvius. Be the guy that isn't obsessed with her and she might just come along.
/r/seduction17/11/14 03:18 PM
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My plan is to wait till she gets in touch with me, however if it goes like over a week, then to simply just leave it and never chat to her again. That's all there is to it. Don't gauge her interest based off her lack of snapchats man. She's on holiday; she could just be really busy. She said she's very selective on who she let's in so if you try to constantly push her into responding, it's not going to come off as very attractive to her. But honestly, it's about who YOU let in, and you seem like…
/r/seduction17/11/14 03:14 PM
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To add on to this beautiful statement... There really are no leagues. The process is the same with a decently attractive girl as opposed to a smoking hottie. Becoming fluent in seduction just removes the veil that people seem to have over approaching highly attractive women. They're all humans, no matter what they look like or who they are.
/r/seduction17/11/14 03:07 PM
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This sub is about the process that can result in girlfriends. Not really relationship advice. Take a look at the subreddits these dudes provided. Granted, I think the red pill might damper your outlook on your relationship. :p
/r/seduction17/11/14 03:04 PM
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I love that theory but I think in reality there will definitely come a time when you have to make a decent investment in her, if you're interested in her anyways. Going on a date with her; you're investing in her. Time, energy, and money wise. Even taking the time to just respond to her texts or messages is investing in her. But I fully agree you should be investing the majority of your capital (time, money, energy, etc.) into yourself.
/r/seduction17/11/14 03:00 PM
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It's not about just saying you're not more invested, it's about actually doing it. And it's also not about being less invested either, it's equally divided. Look at investment just like you would in Economics. If you're investing a big chunk of your capital into one area, you better be dead set in your mind that you're going to return a decent profit. In seduction that means investing your time and energy in to a girl with the hopes that she's equally as interested as you. Because if she's not, …
/r/seduction17/11/14 02:56 PM
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Letting your intentions known as early as possible is good, but also make sure they have the same intentions to avoid misunderstandings and confusions in the relations. This will save you so much trouble it's not even funny. First of all, it takes you out of the friendzone if you're persistent with it. Second of all, gauging her reaction to what you're laying down gives you an idea of how much you can invest in her, if you're even willing to invest anything. If she's not reciprocating anything t…
/r/seduction17/11/14 02:50 PM
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Well this sub is about seduction, not photography so I can't really help ya there. Get them slaughtered drunk and ask to take a picture with them.
/r/seduction17/11/14 02:44 PM
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Please explain to me how the last time you posted a picture of yourself getting drunk with a bunch of sluts got you laid? He's talking about pictures of him partying. Not pictures of him climbing a mountain, or riding a buffalo, or cutting a tree down with a butter knife.
/r/seduction17/11/14 02:42 PM
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I wouldn't even bother trying to contact her or anything. If she messages you or something in a few days and says "I hate you" again, she's definitely interested in you. But if she really does hate you it's not worth your time.
/r/seduction17/11/14 02:39 PM
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Nope, keep implementing more kino (A kiss is a great starter. Trying holding her hand, hugging her, cuddling, etc.)
/r/seduction17/11/14 01:52 AM
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If you're trying to hook up with the girl, you've gotta get that kino going no matter the situation. Without that physical connection, there's little to no hope of it leading to sex. Are your conversations going through sexual topics at all? This is another big one. Gotta put your intentions out there.
/r/seduction17/11/14 01:44 AM
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It's pretty easy to gauge when a girl is too drunk to sleep with. You just gotta use some common sense and not take advantage of them just because they're drunk. I can agree about meeting in person just for the experience. You'll naturally get better at going on dates that way. Plus without the added tension of trying to hook up, it's just a great way to become more social.
/r/seduction17/11/14 01:41 AM
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You need to eliminate the thought from your head that pictures on social media give you any value with women. (Aside from looking really creepy or something) You're a senior in HS, just have fun man. I'm gonna take a guess and say you need to work on kino, since I heard you mention none of it and you'll get no where without it.
/r/seduction17/11/14 12:48 AM
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It depends on the frequency and the situation. If a girl wants me to hand something to them that's right next to me or something I'll do it; but if they're asking me to hold their purse as they go through Victoria's Secret, I'm out. I like to joke around about not wanting to do something but I usually eventually end up doing it. It let's them know I'm not a push over but I'm also not an asshole.
/r/seduction17/11/14 12:42 AM
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Instead of looking at your phone when you get hit with that discomfort, ask them a couple questions to make yourself more comfortable around them. If they go to school, where they work, etc. Also helps them to get comfortable around you.
/r/seduction17/11/14 12:34 AM
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I assume that if u get a number from a girl in person at a bar, that it is worth more than a number off of tinder. This could be kind of true. Getting a number from a girl in person just gives you more rapport when you try to connect on a date or what have you. Closing would be the same process as a tinder date would be though. I prefer bars/clubs/parties because I just love to get drunk and have fun. Banging a chick at the end of the night is just a bonus.
/r/seduction17/11/14 12:31 AM
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This encompasses just about everything you need to know about dealing with women. Feeling horrible over one girl is just not needed. There is literally a 1:3,600,000,000 chance that she was the one for you. Remember that.
/r/seduction17/11/14 12:24 AM
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I know what you're talking about, but you'll look a lot more alpha if you don't care who's around because you're a guy who gets what he wants. If the girl's accepting of it, don't let anyone else stop you.
/r/seduction17/11/14 12:10 AM
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Read this.
/r/seduction16/11/14 11:23 PM
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blue khakis no
/r/seduction16/11/14 11:12 PM
2

So you're not attached but you don't want her seeing other dudes?
/r/seduction16/11/14 11:11 PM
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Forget about her. If you pursue her you'll come off as needy instead of independent like you would if you forget about her. If she's looking to hook up again she'll let you know.
/r/seduction16/11/14 11:08 PM
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Maybe you're not escalating fast enough. If you spend too long on a girl, she's probably going to assume you're not in a hurry to hook up or anything. If you're trying to close that night you've gotta put your intentions out there. And that means getting comfortable with verbally escalating.
/r/seduction16/11/14 11:02 PM
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I'm also pretty bad at escalating through touching, etc. so I have A LOT of missed opportunities... Then that's all you should be focusing on right now. Escalating is what get's you laid; approaching is only creating a foundation for opportunity. You can approach all day but if you never escalate then the best you'll be is friends. Girls want the guy to take the lead, and escalating is how you lead it the way you want. Once you can escalate better, if you feel like there's still holes in your ga…
/r/seduction16/11/14 10:51 PM
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i know i should've went after her at that time No you shouldn't have. If she walks away that's her loss; you're not there to chase a single girl. You played it right by laughing it off and maintaining your frame.
/r/seduction16/11/14 10:43 PM
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And I am sure to call girls who do not answer my texts. This sounds pretty needy tbh. I think text game is necessary, but it's not important. Any real progress will be made face to face. Like I said in another thread, you can't make love to a phone.
/r/seduction16/11/14 10:39 PM
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If they end up making out with you I don't think interest is a problem. Just feel them up when you're making out with them. Slide your hand down her back, grab her ass, whatever. You've just gotta keep going up the ladder, and making out is pretty high on the ladder. You could just be terrible at making out, that might make them walk away.
/r/seduction16/11/14 10:17 PM
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There's no point in investing yourself in something that you're not looking to make a big part of your life. It's useless if she's texting you all the time and you don't want to date her. I would just not make it a priority to respond to her so willingly.
/r/seduction16/11/14 10:12 PM
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Give it another go then and see what happens. If she seems legitimately interested then pursue but if she has another excuse you're wasting your time.
/r/seduction16/11/14 03:05 PM
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Nope, you did it right. Tried setting up another date, she makes up excuse, you deplete any contact with her. Just keep her froze out and if she does get a hold of you don't jump for it right off the bat. If she doesn't, oh well. At least your confidence is strengthened and you can easily make more options!
/r/seduction16/11/14 02:41 PM
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I remember watching Style talk about how you should always open a set from the side - never face a set or they think you are there to stay. By facing sideways and turning toward the set you express higher social worth and impose an artificial time limit on the exchange. Ooo that's golden. Will be implementing.
/r/seduction16/11/14 02:35 PM
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To be completely honest, I was kind of turned off after she said all of that stuff, because I thought she was a lot more innocent and potentially gf material. It sounds like you're making it seem like you're supposed to date her after you banged her. If you don't consider her "potentially gf material" then don't make things exclusive. Judging by what she said, it sounds like she wants a FWB or just a hook up. So keep the conversation light and don't bother texting her all day unless you guys dec…
/r/seduction16/11/14 02:31 PM
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I literally lol'd
/r/seduction15/11/14 06:07 PM
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attractive friend You need to escalate when you're there other wise that's all she'll be.
/r/seduction15/11/14 05:47 PM
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That's a stupid reason in my opinion. That's selfish of him and stupid of her for caring. I mean if he moved out they'd be down a person for rent but it is what it is. I wouldn't live with someone who's angry about me seeing people. I would ignore her and move on, chances are she'd come around and want you back.
/r/seduction15/11/14 04:16 PM
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I get needy in my attempt. Not just any kind of needy, I become the neediest man on the planet. How is that supposed to be attractive? I think you answered your own question. If you come off as needy or desperate you're going to look unattractive. Just have fun and don't worry about getting laid. Because it's when you think like that, that you might find yourself with a girl.
/r/seduction15/11/14 04:03 PM
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This should be common sense, but I've seen it many of times. It's just like how trying to pick up girls at the gym is pointless because they usually have their headphones in/on and are there for a purpose.
/r/seduction15/11/14 03:49 PM
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I fully agree with this. You can learn about anything you want if you read enough about it.
/r/seduction15/11/14 03:42 PM
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Me fourth.
/r/seduction12/11/14 11:05 PM
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Gauge her interest with kino. If she blushes or reciprocates; she's probably just shy. If she rejects you or doesn't reciprocate; she's probably not interested.
/r/seduction12/11/14 10:44 PM
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This is a beautiful explanation. I agree with everything here, and agree that marriage is not necessary for happiness. I don't need a ring to tell me that this girl is going to be the one. Besides, you won't truly ever know until your life is nearing it's end.
/r/seduction12/11/14 02:42 PM
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It certainly would be for me personally, because I don't know how to drive stick.
/r/seduction12/11/14 02:36 PM
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Nope, not 'till marriage. (pun intended)
/r/seduction12/11/14 02:20 PM
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Exactly what I was going to say. OP, take a look at yourself and see what needs improving. You're not breaking out of your comfort zone by dating decent chicks that you're used to. You also shouldn't be putting "fun, gorgeous" girls on a pedestal like you were when that one chick ran into you and you start choking. They're human just like the boring girls you said you're used to. It should be a breath of fresh air to talk to one, not a knock out shot to your social skills.
/r/seduction12/11/14 02:19 PM
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Attractive: A sense of humor. Not taking everything serious is a huge plus for me personally. Passion towards something. I hate it when a girl is into the same old crap every other girl's into. Loyalty. Pretty self explanatory. Unattractive: Dishonesty. There's nothing worse than a girl who can't tell the truth. A lack of character. Goes hand in hand with having passions I guess. Neediness. Girls who can't take care of themselves with anything are unattractive. Bonuses: A fabulous ass, small wai…
/r/seduction12/11/14 03:04 AM
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You gotta warm the oven up before you put the meat in ;) Now I'm just hungry.
/r/seduction12/11/14 01:45 AM
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It's a very easy concept and an easy one to avoid as well. If you develop feelings for a girl you need to express those feelings. Keeping them bottled up instead of expressing through action is what will get you friendzoned. I think most of us tend to keep it bottled up and do not express those feels because of a fear of rejection. And that fear is amplified when you put a girl on a pedestal. You don't want to lose her because: You enjoy having the Potential of everything going well and having a…
/r/seduction11/11/14 03:35 PM
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You almost make it sound like telling a girl is good. You shouldn't be TELLING girls you like them. Period. You should be SHOWING them through actions. Making moves. Look up "kino" in the side bar. TL;DR right there.
/r/seduction11/11/14 03:31 PM
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I guess it depends on how your initial meeting went. If you guys hit it off, it shouldn't be weird at all. Besides, that's what FB's for; staying in touch with friends.
/r/seduction11/11/14 03:22 PM
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If you're telling yourself that "I felt so inadequate to her" "she's too good for me" you're not going to get anywhere with her, or many women in general. Doesn't matter how hot she is. She showed up to the date didn't she? She didn't flake, you did something to intrigue her and she was interested in finding out more about YOU. Also, forget all the praising. I then told her how beautiful and awesome she was. She knows how beautiful and awesome she is. She expects you to praise her and she's used…
/r/seduction11/11/14 05:17 AM
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All it takes is a little small talk and confidence to get yourself in the door!
/r/seduction11/11/14 05:09 AM
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You just listed about 50 different things you've never done/want to do, and don't know how you can be social. Figure out all of the things you want to try doing and make it an effort to do them. You joined a rugby team? I have never played but I know that rugby teams are like brotherhoods. Just talk to some of the dudes, befriend them, ask if anythings going on this weekend and ask if you can tag along. I'm sure that a bunch of them would have no quarrels with a rugby brother coming out with the…
/r/seduction11/11/14 05:04 AM
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Definitely just message her and say you lost it. It happens, she should be understanding and give it to ya again.
/r/seduction11/11/14 04:51 AM
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That was a great move going to the theater for the second date. Putting yourself in a situation like that, that will shoot your confidence through the roof was about the equivalent of taking steroids for seduction. The girl was probably melting in her seat from basking in your confidence on stage. Job well done my friend, that was a fun FR to read!
/r/seduction11/11/14 04:46 AM
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Well I was quite stoned when I first read this and posted that tbh, but I was mostly praising how deep you went to reach the point of the theory. You certainly did your research!
/r/seduction11/11/14 04:40 AM
1

"No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Robert A. Glover.
/r/seduction11/11/14 01:20 AM
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The friendzone is (supposedly) a fake concept that is meant to humiliate women who don't want sex with their male friends. That makes no sense at all. You can call it what ever you want but, that large area where males (who are unwillingly befriended by their crush) go. We have labelled it the "friendzone". You can call it the chodezone if you want, doesn't matter. It's very much a real concept.
/r/seduction11/11/14 01:15 AM
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I can't even begin to process how legitimate this theory is because of how deep it is.
/r/seduction11/11/14 01:08 AM
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That IS alpha af.
/r/seduction10/11/14 07:01 PM
6

Did he have the handlebar mustache as well?
/r/seduction10/11/14 06:45 PM
6

That's usually how life works in general.
/r/seduction10/11/14 06:27 PM
5

Jesus H. Christ I wish that would happen to me. Talk about opportunity falling into your lap. Challenge yourself to not say a word to her when you guys meet and just hook up and leave lol. That would be awesome.
/r/seduction10/11/14 06:25 PM
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That's his right if he's single though! She needs to respect that. Sucks if one person likes the other one a lot more, for sure though.
/r/seduction10/11/14 06:19 PM
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Pick which ever way you want. They're both accomplishing the same thing. As long as you don't "ask".
/r/seduction10/11/14 06:18 PM
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That's totally fine. Everyone has their own preferences!
/r/seduction10/11/14 02:47 PM
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She could've just been doing it for the attention. If she's busy with her career or whatever, she won't have time to go out and get tons of attention every where she goes. I would've just liked the picture and did nothing else about it.
/r/seduction10/11/14 02:46 PM
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If there was clear signs of attraction from her side, absolutely try to set something up ASAP. Don't bore her with the same ole b.s. small talk on FB. It's early so you can meet up and drop some game, keep yourself out of the friendzone, and possibly close. Also: am I reading it wrong and just not bother? This is why FB game is so overrated. Don't get overly critical about how you're taking what she's saying on FB. Get with her face to face and really find out how she's feeling.
/r/seduction10/11/14 02:40 PM
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Yeah this is low...Ive payed my dues being a nice guy...my question is, how would you guys go about trying to get this to happen? We wouldn't try getting this to happen. As you said, it's low, and it's a terrible idea to try to meet women. If you said she wasn't good looking do you think she's going to have model type caliber friends? Doubt it.
/r/seduction10/11/14 02:36 PM
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I guess I appeared too needy (through text? how?) I keep asking, about once a week for a month. She flaked and you kept trying to push her to hang out, even though she kept flaking. Very needy. Denying her that sex at the beginning is what did you in, I believe. It was clear she was looking for a hook up or possible FWB: I get the whole "I'm not interested in a relationship, I'm busy, I don't want a boyfriend" type thing. I would just eject and move on. Maybe she'll come around again in future f…
/r/seduction10/11/14 02:29 PM
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That reality is cohesive with the double standard. It's easy for girls to get laid, therefore they're sluts if they sleep with a bunch of dudes. But it's much harder for dudes to get laid so maybe it's not seen as bad. It's all just a "standard" that really has no value in any way shape or form. The way I see it is, if you're single, you have the right to sleep with however many people you want, whether you're a guy or girl. "Exclusive" with one guy and sleeping with 3 other dudes? Slut.
/r/seduction10/11/14 02:19 PM
1

Are you smiling? Are you relaxed when you're asking questions and answering them? Are you laughing at all?
/r/seduction10/11/14 02:08 PM
1

When you get rejected you need to understand it's not a failure. Every time you get rejected you find out what you could've done differently, improving every time. You're gaining more confidence just from approaching, chipping away at your fear of rejection, gaining precious experience, a list of positive things.
/r/seduction10/11/14 02:07 PM
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If I'm paying $150 for a pair of jeans they better secrete some special pheromone that makes women melt around me. I personally could careless about "raw denim", I just like a good fit and I know what a good fit is for me. I'm not trying to take anything away from you if you're passionate about jeans, because to each his own!
/r/seduction10/11/14 02:02 PM
1

It is unless you actually change your mindset/appearance to make yourself attractive.
/r/seduction10/11/14 02:00 PM
2

Absolutely!
/r/seduction10/11/14 04:03 AM
2

Excellent post.
/r/seduction10/11/14 03:45 AM
1

That sounds like she really does not want you to be "bro-zoned". Me: so am I bro zoned? Her: I forget... :) :) :) To me it's almost like she was making a move on you. Sounds like you're not into her like that though, so it doesn't really matter.
/r/seduction10/11/14 03:41 AM
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Just because you can't get the girl doesn't mean you're forever in the friendzone. You can nut up and just move on, taking yourself out of the friendzone.
/r/seduction10/11/14 03:37 AM
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"And I will let you know. I'm not quite sure yet but I'll let you know soon :)" I would just assume she's going to let you know if she's interested in going out. Prodding her for an answer will come off as needy. If she's interested in you, you'll hear from her.
/r/seduction10/11/14 03:32 AM
2

I like this, very well put.
/r/seduction10/11/14 03:22 AM
1

That's a funny story. The more times you get rejected the more you learn and the better it feels when you succeed! Like you basically said, every experience is a chance for improvement.
/r/seduction10/11/14 03:18 AM
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I love it though because I'm learning from it. YES. I love it when I see this, because this tells me you're going to be fine. Just work on those areas you know you need to improve on. Don't chalk this one up as a loss just yet, but definitely open up more options!
/r/seduction09/11/14 06:48 PM
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I can understand that but it's redundant if it comes with a girl who demolishes your game with any of the girls you're exposed to.
/r/seduction09/11/14 06:46 PM
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Text game and FB game will only get you so far. If there's no connection face to face then you're both wasting your time texting and all that. I only text to set up dates, or respond to the girl if SHE'S initiating the conversation. (I'll never text a girl every hour asking her "What's up?") If the conversations are boring and have no sexual reference in any way, expect to be in the friendzone if you can't make it up for it in person.
/r/seduction09/11/14 05:53 PM
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If you're trying to close with her you need to understand how important that eye contact is. If she's staring into your eyes and not speaking, it generally means she's expecting a kiss. If you're cuddling you should take advantage of the fact that that's easy escalating. You also need to figure out "where things are going" because you're the man and need to lead. If she asks, "What do you think about me?" You better have a better response than "I don't know."
/r/seduction09/11/14 05:48 PM
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You care too much about what she thinks about you and your friends as well. You should either completely ignore her, call her out (Idk if I would though if she's an attention whore), or find new friends. There's no need for that and I would not be wasting my time around people like that.
/r/seduction09/11/14 05:41 PM
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You go up to girls the same way you would go up to a guy. I think this is vital. It puts you in the mindset that she's just another person, which she really is. No need for any special treatment because you think she's a dime.
/r/seduction09/11/14 05:35 PM
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Literally ran? That's hilarious. I'm all for shy girls but that's a little TOO "green" for my taste. Can't say I've ever had that happen to me but I imagine I would've handled it the same way, so you're fine.
/r/seduction09/11/14 05:31 PM
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That sounds like a fun night. It's a shame you couldn't of gone farther with that HB7 but it's a good thing you didn't go to that party just for her. Don't always be available. Welcome back to the game!
/r/seduction09/11/14 05:28 PM
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Sounds like you're in the clear as long as you don't come off as needy. Like saying, "I NEED to seal the deal tonight." Don't be outcome dependent, just trust your gut and have fun. Since you're good with the kino, I would just talk some dance b.s. and put your hands on her hips or show her a move and just keep escalating. Touch her as much as you can. Make the touching more and more sexual as the night goes on. (Don't start off too strong, let her warm up to you.) A massage? Well I shouldn't ha…
/r/seduction09/11/14 05:20 PM
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Absolutely no to hugging putting you in the friendzone. Only going as far as hugging her? That'll put you in the friendzone. I think hugging a girl upon meeting her is vital to putting your mind (Her's as well) on the right path. I would even call it a "kino warm up". I make sure to hug a girl I'm seeing as soon as I see and her and right before her leaves (if there's no close obviously) It's one of the easiest ways to initiate contact. I am not a big talker so physical contact is vital in my ga…
/r/seduction09/11/14 05:11 PM
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My process for dealing with flakes: (I am somewhat of a nice guy so there is GENERALLY a 2nd chance.) I set up a date -> She flakes (with legitimate reasoning) -> I don't set anything up after that but am open for another chance from her end. I set up a date -> She flakes (with no excuse) -> Instant next Never bring it up angrily. People have their own lives to take care of, so freaking out on a girl that had an actual important reason to not show up is pointless and unnecessary. I don't even ta…
/r/seduction09/11/14 04:59 PM
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it just gives them less of a chance to say no. It gives them NO chance actually. Julien Blanc would love this method... ... Too soon?
/r/seduction09/11/14 04:48 PM
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I'm a firm believer that looks aren't everything but in the context of closing without absolutely any openers or verbal communication I think you need to be VERY good looking. If the girl only has the cover to judge a book, that cover better be DAMN good looking. Or just find the sluttiest girl in the bar and take your chances.
/r/seduction09/11/14 04:44 PM
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Kind of a bland conversation. I think you were being a little praise-y telling her how adorably cute she was in her pics and what not. I also think there was some open spots for some more sexual content. If a girl says "I don't bite" I can think of a million different things to go off of that. ("Not hard anyways, right?" "Well I do ;)" etc.) Instead, you completely ignored it and said she looks like a girl you saw last weekend. At the very end you said it's going to be a "movie n hot chocolate k…
/r/seduction09/11/14 04:37 PM
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It's common because it's a social activity that gives people something to talk over that also helps relieve tension. (or cause it depending on the person) People just like getting drunk. I loosen up a lot the more intoxicated I get but I don't feel like I have any problems gaming sober. It depends on how you are as a person I guess. If you're used to going to the bars with a girl and aren't drinking anymore, I would recommend taking her out for coffee. Same social type idea that still involves d…
/r/seduction09/11/14 04:07 PM
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Price=/=Attractiveness Fit=Attractiveness Idk why people can't understand this. Why pay $150 for some jeans when you can get 5-10 pairs with that cash at a discounted clothing shop? The best pair of jeans I've ever had probably costed me $20.
/r/seduction09/11/14 03:58 PM
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Both very quality type places for a slam sesh
/r/seduction09/11/14 03:43 PM
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But how could she know he doesn't know that she doesn't doesn't know that he doesn't know they're not even together?
/r/seduction09/11/14 03:36 PM
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I'm still too fucking shy to approach a female that's a complete stranger. There's only one way to get better at that. :)
/r/seduction09/11/14 12:39 AM
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I would just give it one last go the next date and if she doesn't reciprocate the escalating, it might be on to the next. The only thing I'm hanging onto is the fact that she's still around and not ducking my calls or texts It sounds like you have a scarcity mentality, I would approach a lot more girls and build up options because it sounds like you're investing a lot in to her and you could just be wasting your time if things don't go the way you plan. (Just a heads up, they hardly ever do)
/r/seduction08/11/14 08:16 PM
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Then don't waste your time talking too much. Focus on kino and escalating if you're just trying to hook up. Save the heart felt talks for girls you're looking to spend a lot of time with.
/r/seduction08/11/14 08:11 PM
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That I absolutely agree with.
/r/seduction08/11/14 08:09 PM
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This is beautiful. I do think there are some guidelines that can lead to more confidence but am 100% with you that it all comes from experience. You could read everything ever wrote about pickup, go out for the first time and end up shaking like a leaf.
/r/seduction08/11/14 08:01 PM
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Do you enjoy working out? The toughest part about working out is actually going. It's a hobby for me so I have no problem going. If you can find the motivation and end up liking it, you might just stick to it. And being that you're intelligent, you might really get in to it and try to learn everything you can about it. Then you'll learn about proper nutrition and that could motivate you to change your lifestyle. (Binge eating is definitely a no-no if you understand fitness and nutrition) If you …
/r/seduction08/11/14 07:55 PM
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"Cougar den" haha I like that. Don't worry about what anyone thinks about you. Don't talk to a girl to try to make her interested in you, talk to her to see if YOU'RE interested in her. If not, it's fine. At least it was good practice talking to her. If you think like this you'll end up asking much more genuine questions that you're actually interested in.
/r/seduction08/11/14 07:45 PM
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Haha Tyler's quite colorful but he has enormous confidence.
/r/seduction08/11/14 07:42 PM
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Does he look like Bradley Cooper and have impeccable game? It all depends on the context IMO. Some girls are stuck up, some are down to earth, some are neither.
/r/seduction08/11/14 07:33 PM
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I've got no desire to form a LTR right now, but I'm starting to not want to hook up anymore. It sounds like you're conforming to what you believe you're supposed to do. Do whatever you truly want.
/r/seduction08/11/14 07:24 PM
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a federal law enforcement officer. I found that quite ironic.
/r/seduction08/11/14 07:20 PM
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Great field report. It's awesome that you went out with an open mind and talked to everyone you could.
/r/seduction08/11/14 07:17 PM
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Expand your field beyond your college. You've just got to be open.
/r/seduction08/11/14 07:00 PM
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I think it's hard to change a person's beliefs. If they're not into it, they're not into it. I would just let them be and go and find girls who enjoy it.
/r/seduction08/11/14 06:54 PM
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Women won't find you attractive until YOU believe you're attractive.
/r/seduction08/11/14 06:50 PM
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Don't go out to meet girls; go out to have fun.
/r/seduction08/11/14 06:48 PM
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The author Dale Carnegie said to never criticize, condemn, or complain. I agree with everything except for this. I think if you don't criticize (nicely of course) every now and then you're just going to seem like a nice guy who agrees with everything she says.
/r/seduction08/11/14 06:46 PM
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You just have to play off what she's putting out. If she seems interested, talkative, then you won't have anything to worry about. It's when you text her every hour and she's barely responding that you're coming off as needy.
/r/seduction08/11/14 06:42 PM
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Being unique IS attractive. You just need to be confident in who you are and love yourself. I think you just need to work on yourself to get where you want. Overweight? Hit the gym. Not social? Go out and just talk to people. Doesn't even need to be girls. I can't relate to the whole Asperger's thing, but I do believe RSD Tyler has it. Check out his videos, he pulls plenty of tail.
/r/seduction08/11/14 06:35 PM
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It's easier said than done to unwire your brain since your mind is addicted to the problems. Of course it is, but it's not impossible. Can't really give much advice here, you've already listed everything you need to do now it's time to implement these changes and stick to them.
/r/seduction07/11/14 07:20 PM
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Yes you should treat it like any other date. Don't give her any special treatment because you're trying to get out of the friendzone. Kino's tough to put in words, you really just have to use your best judgement on how to initiate it. Hugging her as soon as you see her is a great start, then just amplify it from there. If she provides any opportunity for touch, go at it full force. If she reciprocates, you're in the clear.
/r/seduction07/11/14 07:16 PM
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Oh gotcha, equally as valuable. And that's great practice for sure. If you're good at kino you can escalate easily, and keep yourself out of the friendzone like a boss.
/r/seduction07/11/14 07:10 PM
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College parties, any parties, clubs, bars, book stores, coffee shops, food markets, gyms (don't really recommend), libraries, art galleries, music stores, concerts, etc.
/r/seduction07/11/14 07:08 PM
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Ok that's how I interpreted it. Thanks for the clarification man.
/r/seduction07/11/14 06:52 PM
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Could go either way I suppose. I just can't believe people PAY this dude to teach them pickup. Jesus christ, might as well get PU lessons from Chris Brown.
/r/seduction07/11/14 06:52 PM
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Like your actual brother? Oh, definitely forget that girl then. Glad you're just chalking it up as a fun night. Time for the next!
/r/seduction07/11/14 06:49 PM
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You have to build attraction in person, not via an electronic device, and that is the bottom line. That's all there is to it. We can argue for days which one's more efficient, but the bottom line is you can't make love to a phone. (Don't challenge this please)
/r/seduction07/11/14 06:48 PM
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Could you elaborate on the "2/3 rule" with texting?
/r/seduction07/11/14 06:46 PM
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I guess no publicity is bad publicity right?
/r/seduction07/11/14 06:42 PM
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My favorite sexual position is the one where I cum and she doesn't. I'm sorry, but that's hilarious. It's clear this guy is just out to piss people off.
/r/seduction07/11/14 06:41 PM
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I agree. I think OP came on a little too strong, and she clearly wasn't ready for that.
/r/seduction07/11/14 06:29 PM
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Too much drama over a little poon. Her breaking down at the party is a clear sign that she's not over him. Meaning it may seem like she was digging you, but she probably wasn't. Seems like the common thing to do is to break up with a SO then go out and get as hammered drunk as possible, then cry about how terrible things are. I personally could careless about an angry ex, but if you're worried about losing your friend over it, good for you for not jeopardizing that and holding your friendship as…
/r/seduction07/11/14 06:25 PM
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Well at least you were the most alpha out of the pack. You aint got time fo dat
/r/seduction07/11/14 06:08 PM
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I know homie, we all do
/r/seduction07/11/14 06:08 PM
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If I invite a girl over and she's on her phone from the get go, I won't be talking to them very long. Good job approaching them and bringing them over though!
/r/seduction07/11/14 04:33 PM
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Like a boss...? :p
/r/seduction07/11/14 04:29 PM
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Honestly it just sounds like she's not ready. You're escalating and all that fine, sounds like she's plenty interested, she's just kind of holding off. Just keep at it and next time ask her why she's holding back.
/r/seduction07/11/14 04:28 PM
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I see what you did there. :P
/r/seduction07/11/14 04:26 PM
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"This article is not meant to judge or condemn anyone else by the way." I lol'd at that.
/r/seduction07/11/14 03:48 PM
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Even if a woman is married to you, you still are not “entitled”, to her. She is not your possession. TL;DR. No but really, this should be common sense unless you have the mentality of a rapist.
/r/seduction07/11/14 03:48 PM
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You'll be like that for awhile until you're comfortable around her. How do you get more comfortable with her? Spend more time with her. Also, I would never refer to a girl as my "soon to be girlfriend". That can go south rather quickly.
/r/seduction07/11/14 03:43 PM
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Now we're getting somewhere! You're looking at it all as a negative thing. It's not. You learned what you can do differently with the next girl to have a better time. You're already a better man than you were before this. Go on a few dates and see how long these "feelings" for her last.
/r/seduction07/11/14 03:40 PM
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show her that I'm genuinely interested in her, but don't be too obvious about it This is about all you can do. If you've waited this long and already been rejected, there's not much more you can try. Try to get her to hang out and give it a go, I mean escalating, kino, all the works. It's only the way to show her what your intentions are, short of pulling out your 12" lap hog right in front of her. But don't do what your friend said about talking to her daily. That's only going to come off as de…
/r/seduction07/11/14 03:28 PM
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Because you honestly don't know better, you don't have the experience to guide you towards what you really want. And there's only way to learn what you want, by experiencing. How do you get prettier girls than her? By doing the opposite of what you're doing now. You're putting this one girl on a pedestal, sacrificing your sanity to get her approval, and not moving on. By trying to contact her, you're crossing the line of being independent into desperation. If you think she doesn't want to date y…
/r/seduction07/11/14 03:16 PM
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If she's fresh out of a relationship she really might just be hesitant to get back into one, which sounds like what you want from her. Since you just met her (I'm assuming), she's probably trying to feel you out and get to know you better. I wouldn't pursue but that's just because I hate playing games and am not looking for a LTR, but that's just personal taste. I wouldn't waste my time just focusing on her, I would be out picking up more women, but maybe be open for another date with her. And i…
/r/seduction07/11/14 03:03 PM
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I absolutely think your situation is ego-based oneitis. You keep telling yourself that you need her approval to justify your ego, which is not at all the case. That's why your self esteem dropped because you feel like you're not "worthy" enough in her eyes, which your ego absolutely refuses. I'm not telling you to abide to your ego, but you absolutely do NOT need her approval to be deemed worthy. By ANYONE. It doesn't matter how anyone interprets you, in doesn't effect your life in any way. She'…
/r/seduction07/11/14 02:53 PM
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Absolutely man. Just remember, have fun with it. It's an exciting experience - in more ways than one ;) - when it comes to interacting with women.
/r/seduction07/11/14 02:26 PM
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Oh man this screams FWB material. Take her out again, but this time definitely start making moves. Lay some kino on her and see how she reacts.
/r/seduction07/11/14 02:22 AM
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Don't take too much outta context man. I literally meant if you don't wanna wait weeks, that's fine. I'm just saying you might look better the longer you wait, but it all depends on how interested the girl is in ya. And yeah being a nice guy leads to getting friendzoned, but I wasn't saying YOU were being a nice guy. I just meant don't do that, so you're fine. :p
/r/seduction07/11/14 02:05 AM
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Because the quicker you try to make up for it, the more desperate you'll seem. But if you don't want to wait weeks, don't. It's your call. And no it doesn't have to be a drinks type meet up, anything that will allow for an intimate, face to face environment. Lunch is fine if you escalate quickly enough, and maybe go back to your place. (or hers if it's closer again) As long as you're kino-ing, escalating, and not just being a nice guy, what ever you do will be okay.
/r/seduction06/11/14 07:06 PM
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I'm just glad I can help out. I like to believe I'm pretty intellectual so I love to dissect problems, find the solution, and learn from the whole process. Especially if it's something I'm genuinely interested in, like seduction. Dude, feel free to message me about anything. I'd be glad to give you my honest opinion. And it WILL be honest, I'm not afraid to speak the truth. I'd love to hear about how you're progressing with everything!
/r/seduction06/11/14 05:04 PM
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That's awesome that you're actually doing something about improving your mindset. You're going to come out a champ man. And I think you tried forcing a relationship on her to feed your ego. Telling yourself something like, "what the fuck dude, I'm the shit, you should only see me" is only a method of abiding to your ego. You're telling yourself that you're not satisfied until you've landed a relationship with her, and because you didn't reach that point, you think the loss is devastating. (It's …
/r/seduction06/11/14 04:12 PM
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jack_is_surprised? :o
/r/seduction06/11/14 04:03 PM
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You friendzoned her and she friendzoned you back once you started showing interest in her. When you told her how you felt, you subconsciously took the risk of losing her friendship. I did the exact same thing a week or so ago, and posted it about it here. However, I understood the risk beforehand and knew I would learn from it. This is invaluable when it comes to taking a girl off a pedestal. You've still got her high up there where she doesn't belong. You need to understand that your thoughts a…
/r/seduction06/11/14 03:50 PM
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I'm not trying to call you egotistical, but it sounds like you're letting your ego influence your thoughts. "what the fuck? I should be the only one she's seeing!" That's not the way to go about it. If you're not originally attracted to her, you shouldn't be phased when you find out she's seeing other dudes. You just gotta be like it's whatever, I'm not even into her. And no, you shouldn't date a girl if you're not attracted to her. At the same time, there's no harm in spending some time with so…
/r/seduction06/11/14 03:40 PM
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That was the first date correct? Don't worry about things not going as planned. You CAN close on the first date, but it's not the end of the relationship if it doesn't happen. As long as you made a good impression and YOU enjoyed her company, it was a success. Try meeting up with her in a couple weeks, but don't come off as desperate. "I'm going to go out for some drinks tonight. Care to join me?" or something along the same lines. This tells her you're going out to have fun and won't be phased …
/r/seduction06/11/14 03:28 PM
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There really isn't anything wrong with it. By reading this I get the sense that you're just a guy that will take relationships over one night stands and just hooking up. That's totally cool, everyone's into different things. I do think you're putting that first chick on a pedestal and you're not allowing any other girls a chance because they're not her. You need to understand she wasn't worth your time. You worded it a little weirdly but I'm assuming when you said "I was happy, ready to dump her…
/r/seduction06/11/14 03:18 PM
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You bet. Just put it all into effect and you'll be fine.
/r/seduction06/11/14 03:08 PM
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I agree with /u/pureimpurity that you actually ARE nervous, because you wouldn't be feeling those sensations if you weren't. When it starts to happen next time, just take a deep breath, or multiple if you need to, and enjoy the moment that you're connecting with a beautiful girl. Do it enough and you won't get nervous.
/r/seduction06/11/14 03:07 PM
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I wouldn't ask a girl about a boyfriend so suddenly, but If I do and she responds with "kinda", that's an absolute green light on at least getting a number. To me it says she might be seeing someone, but she's more intrigued by your confidence to approach her.
/r/seduction06/11/14 03:02 PM
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While I agree that asking about the boyfriend thing was a little sudden, I think he played it off quite well. she said kinda and I said well that kinda means you have someone to fall back on and I pointed to myself That's actually a pretty clutch move. It already takes him out of the certainty of friendzoning himself, (to her) shows that he's confident in himself, and is witty enough for humorous responses like that. Good job OP, I'm proud of you. I agree that what would of made this an excellen…
/r/seduction06/11/14 02:58 PM
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Just ignore all the voices in your head for a second, disregard what anyone could say about the interaction you're going to have. Absolutely. There is absolutely nothing physically holding you back from talking to the girl, only your own thoughts. You need to just go for it and silence those thoughts, because that is truly how you progress.
/r/seduction06/11/14 02:52 PM
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she won't take the initiative either. Of course she won't, you're the man, you've got to. Imagine how badass you'd look in her eyes if you took the lead and just go for it. Next time, don't think at all and just go for it. If a girl EVER says, "I want you" dammit you BETTER take that as a command and put your face on hers. If a girl tells me that, there's a bout a tenth of second pause before my tongue's ravaging hers. It cannot be clearer and you need to understand that she's verbally telling y…
/r/seduction06/11/14 02:45 PM
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You missed your opportunity man. we litteraly spend 20 minutes learning the thing that she wanted to learn and then like 8 hours of talking, watching some videos together and we made a dinner together. She was clearly waiting for YOU to make a move. As soon as the studying was done I would've started escalating. You've just gotta go for it next time the opportunity presents itself. As far as your fear of rejection goes, look where it got you. You took no risks and now she's not interested. Had y…
/r/seduction06/11/14 02:37 PM
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I currently put women on a pedestal will this go away when I become a more confident person through developing myself? Yes and no. It's not something you wait for to happen, but I do believe it is suppressed by improving confidence.
/r/seduction06/11/14 02:21 PM
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Sounds like a shit test to me.
/r/seduction06/11/14 02:17 PM
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We've made out multiple times and frequently cuddle / give massages. WHAT. Bro, I would have a harder time NOT getting sexual while partaking in said activities. If you're doing any of that, put your hands all over her. You've already won the race, now it's time to celebrate. DO NOT wait any longer though, other wise you're going to lose your reward.
/r/seduction06/11/14 02:10 PM
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She cancelled the date and gave no explanation for a week. That's an instant 'next' in my book. I wouldn't of even responded the next week she got back to you.
/r/seduction06/11/14 02:00 PM
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Create an "escape" fantasy/emotion. Best looking girl I opened cold ever was a smoking hot bartender. I walked up right before closing time and said "run away with me" and she was floored. This led to discussions if where we could go, and how soon we could go. Oh my I like that. How many dudes run up to a girl and say that? Not many that's for sure.
/r/seduction06/11/14 01:57 PM
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If her boyfriend's going through her phone and she's telling you that she's deleting your flirty messages... Do you think you should be flirting over text? Save that for when you're in person. If her boyfriend goes through her phone on a regular basis, he clearly has trust issues. Their relationship is presumably doomed. With that being said, DO NOT wait around playing the nice guy waiting for them to break up. Just flirt and be fun when you're together, and don't even bother trying to get her t…
/r/seduction06/11/14 01:50 PM
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She was going to "make me wait til date 6". I told her after 3 I legitimately wouldn't have called her back Like a boss.
/r/seduction06/11/14 01:32 PM
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I think what he's trying to say is that when he's at a bar or club, he jumps from group to group but feels secure once he comes to one that accepts him. Then doesn't want to leave that group because it seems like the easy thing to do instead of being independent. Also i think you've smoked to much weed. People and groups aren't islands, they are more like bridges. That doesn't make sense because that is still using people as a metaphor, which is all that he was doing in the first place. He was j…
/r/seduction06/11/14 03:31 AM
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Jesus christ I'm dying right now
/r/seduction06/11/14 03:13 AM
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I knew I wasn't going to be disappointed in this thread's comments.
/r/seduction06/11/14 03:12 AM
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Please do it. I would love to hear about the girl's reaction.
/r/seduction06/11/14 03:10 AM
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+1 for PanOxyl. I actually need to pick up some tomorrow myself! That stuffs great.
/r/seduction05/11/14 11:22 PM
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I can respect that. If she's beautiful in and out I like it at all!
/r/seduction05/11/14 11:19 PM
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Don't hang your head about it. You're now improved since that experience.
/r/seduction05/11/14 08:49 PM
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not so bare with me, but yeah that's about it. I mean I enjoy her company and all that, but it's definitely more of a sexual attraction than anything else.
/r/seduction05/11/14 08:48 PM
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But why strictly? I don't see how cutting down your options is beneficial. I mean it is what is, people have their own tastes, but I want as much opportunity as possible. :P
/r/seduction05/11/14 08:44 PM
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It honestly doesn't sound there's much of a connection going on here. YET anyways. Try talking to her next lecture. Ask her about what she's into and what not, and when you find something you can find interesting, go off that. Tell her she's fun to talk to and you guys should have lunch sometime. Then when (hopefully) the date comes, try putting all the kino and what not into play.
/r/seduction05/11/14 03:22 AM
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I like this because it sounds like it's his weakness. I'd like to know just how much he changes when confronting a white girl.
/r/seduction05/11/14 03:02 AM
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All the money he saves and could spend on her too... It's just disgusting. I don't blame her.
/r/seduction05/11/14 02:53 AM
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I was actually thinking about this on my trip home from the gym tonight. I'm totally cool with being friends, but I know if the opportunity presents it's self I would try and escalate. And to think about it, I don't think I really would want to date her anyways. I'm trying to get out and experience what can with the short time I have. It was just a typical scarcity/oneitis situation where I didn't know any better.
/r/seduction05/11/14 02:37 AM
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If you're hanging out regularly I don't suggest telling her anything. You have got to put it in actions. Hug her, touch her when ever you can (not in a weird way), just make moves. Make it clear that you're attracted to her. If she responds with something like, "What are you doing?!" THEN tell her how you feel. My mistake was that I never put that stuff out there and just gave her an easy chance to friendzone me, and of course she took it. I also gave her plenty of time to, which I don't recomme…
/r/seduction05/11/14 02:27 AM
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It's a shame too. In my specific situation she and I have no problem getting along and she's just as crazy as I am. But as you stated, the spark's just not there. And honestly reading through all these great comments and thinking about where I'm at, I don't think we'd work out either. There's something about her that I think makes her unique but I honestly don't know if it's something that I'm looking for. Wiiiiittthhh that being I said, I wouldn't rule out FWB. ;) It's amazing how much you can …
/r/seduction05/11/14 02:18 AM
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I'm very glad you enjoyed it. Instead of just being like, "blah blah blah I got friendzoned what do I do???" I figured I'd form it in a way to show what I learned to help others from not having to make the same mistake. I also think there's more beautiful information in these comments than the actual post.
/r/seduction05/11/14 02:10 AM
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Think of the power we possess now just from going through these experiences. I know I won't be getting friendzone again. (Unless I want it) Beautifully put man!
/r/seduction05/11/14 02:07 AM
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Time and time again you hear about nice guys finishing last, but it's so god damn true. Ohhh man, she told you she was attracted to ya?! That's a green light right there. It's all good though man, I bet you learned from it!
/r/seduction05/11/14 02:05 AM
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You drive a valid point but I find it hard to believe that there's not a single thing that makes her feel the way she does (I'm totally fine with it btw, I'm not looking to get married or anything anytime soon). I definitely feel it was my lack of kino and all the touchy stuff because I was honestly never good at that and never understood the importance of it up until recently. It all doesn't really matter because I've already learned from it, and like you said, the next girl MAY like me like th…
/r/seduction05/11/14 02:01 AM
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I would even use that to my advantage. Maybe approach her and be like, "Is he always like that?" pretending like you just saw him act like that. Then go from there.
/r/seduction04/11/14 02:42 PM
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Boyfriend or not you did the right thing knowing she was wasted.
/r/seduction04/11/14 02:36 PM
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I know most people here would say to tell her not to bring her friend, but I think it'd be a good challenge. It's obvious her friend will be there for the whole protection thing, but it'll be good practice interacting with 2 girls at once. And I guarantee if it goes well, her friend won't be there for the next date.
/r/seduction04/11/14 02:33 PM
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The only thing that puts you in the friendzone is your lack of showing your intentions early enough. But my theory is that as long as the date is face to face, it's fine. Lunch, coffee, walks, drinks, etc. are all okay. Movies, sports games, concerts (Even though it breaks my heart to list them), etc. are not very good for more intimate dates. They're fine if you're already in an established relationship.
/r/seduction04/11/14 02:12 PM
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