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I think what it's supposed to mean is do what you want without worrying about what others think or want. If what you want isn't what they want, they should be able to tell you (defend themself). It's poorly worded.
/r/seduction04/03/15 04:08 PM
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You speak like looks make absolutely no difference to women. Women aren't retarded, they like things that look good. It doesn't mean that looks are all that matters, not by a long stretch.
/r/seduction04/03/15 01:57 PM
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Tyler durden mostly says that so that not good looking guys continue to read and buy his shit. Women absolutely care about looks, some just as much as men.
/r/seduction03/03/15 09:39 PM
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Wow that's deep. Typing LOL to her joke definitely conveys how I'm trying to be funny. It's so clear now.
/r/seduction02/03/15 09:05 PM
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Her: So anon, tell me about your previous relationships Me: I'm really only focused on my current/next one
/r/seduction02/03/15 06:34 PM
1

What? You can't kiss someone without it being awkward, so if you want to kiss people learn how to live with some awkwardness, or just ignore what you think of as "awkward" and just realize that's excitement about doing something new.
/r/seduction19/02/15 10:32 PM
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Some ideas: In conversation, assume something about her that is sort of outlandish. "I bet you take like 8 showers a day" "You seem like someone who's probably had quite a few adventures" Misinterpret things she says. her: "Oh I love xyz restaurant!" you: "Ok Ok, I'll let you take me there, as long as you promise to be on good behavior. No touching!" Sometimes you have to actually get to know someone and ask them interview type questions, but you can at least make them open ended, and make your …
/r/seduction19/02/15 10:29 PM
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Why don't you say why it works in your post, so that these people can learn something and understand? Right now your post just says "I know how to do it right unlike the people you're talking about"
/r/seduction04/02/15 09:47 PM
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It's hard man, no need to beat yourself up about it. Just try to keep moving forward and pushing yourself past your comfort zone.
/r/seduction24/07/14 08:03 PM
4

On your trip, instead of defaulting to complimenting, try something like saying "Hey! I'm on vacation, do you have recommendations for cool things to do or see?"
/r/seduction24/07/14 07:09 PM
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Do you get scared thinking about that after you pick up a girl at a club? People are much more likely to use protection if they are with a sex worker than a "normal" girl and I believe that the general population has a greater prevalance of STDs than the sex worker population.
/r/seduction15/07/14 02:23 PM
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I think its a decent exercise but I think trying to have a 3 second conversation where you hold eye contact with people is much more valuable. The barista, the checkout girl/guy at the supermarket, whatever. When they say hello and ask how your day is going, actually look them in the eye in a friendly way and tell them its going great, and ask how theirs is. Little interactions like this add up and before you know it you're having full-on conversations with these people who have now become frien…
/r/seduction19/05/14 09:52 PM
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If the boyfriend is someone you know or respect, I would just be nice and don't flirt back. If you don't know the boyfriend and he's not there, game on - with the knowledge that the girl you are messing with is probably not any sort of long term material.
/r/seduction19/05/14 09:42 PM
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Start losing weight and get in better shape. 5'8" isn't really that short and won't limit you much unless you let it. Respect and attraction from others will come with more confidence in yourself. Also, your boss is probably just messing with you, don't take it as him fucking with you. This is just what guys do.
/r/seduction19/05/14 09:39 PM
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How did you debunk the theory in any way?
/r/seduction19/05/14 09:33 PM
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A date is just two people hanging out with the potential for a romantic relationship. You can do anything that two people do. A few good ones are going for a walk, going to a park, window shopping or just walking around looking at people and things, going to a show (art, music, play, etc).
/r/seduction13/05/14 09:33 PM
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I think its along the lines of qualification. You are leading the conversation, but they are doing most of the talking (trying to qualify themself to you). You are deciding if you like them by listening to them talk and asking them questions that matter to you.
/r/seduction19/07/13 07:56 PM
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If you read so much PU material and all of your friends think you get tons of girls, you may be giving off the player vibe. When you give off the player vibe, girls like to be around you, but they are afraid to get too close.
/r/seduction05/07/13 08:35 PM
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I think you should be open to dating at least 16 year olds..It's the natural order of the world that guys date down and girls date up. Obviously this is not a universal rule but does tend to be the case.
/r/seduction05/07/13 08:28 PM
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When you get that feeling, like there is an amazing girl nearby, you should go talk to her ASAP. It's a variation on the 3 second rule. The longer you wait the more you get into your head and the harder it becomes.
/r/seduction05/07/13 08:14 PM
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Seriously you need some minor social skills. This guy stood there thinking the girl might be interested and wanting to talk to her and didn't say anything. Sorry, but at that stage (unless you are literally an idiot) you just need to say something. I would say your example is terrible, but hey at least you said something. I would literally look over at her and say Hey, whats your name? Based on the length of your post I'm guessing you overthink things often.
/r/seduction02/07/13 08:56 PM
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There are literally no rules to life (except the law, and even that can be broken). Any sort of lifestyle you can possibly imagine, there is someone out there leading that life.
/r/seduction02/07/13 07:08 PM
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Open your mouth and make words. Carry on from there. Or read the sidebar. There is lots of material out there, don't make someone spoon feed it to you.
/r/seduction02/07/13 06:47 PM
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Next time you save up enough, just sell your car and do it. You don't need a car if you're off in another country.
/r/seduction01/07/13 09:14 PM
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Did these help your actual game, or just help you get more pussy? Or are they the same?
/r/seduction01/07/13 09:11 PM
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God didn't give us the ability to improve ourselves for nothing, now did he? God wouldn't do something like that, if he were to exist.
/r/seduction01/07/13 08:56 PM
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It's insecurity talking, that's all. You can operate in that fashion but you will miss out on many opportunities that you could appreciate by being a bit more forward or aggressive, whichever way you want to think about it.
/r/seduction27/06/13 07:24 PM
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It sounds like you don't want to hear the advice people are giving that you unconsciously and unintentionally "cockblocked" him (although he would have cockblocked himself at some point anyway).
/r/TheRedPill27/06/13 06:32 PM
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How are you asking these people out? I think some persistence is good, but it can definitely affect the frame of the relationship in a negative way (you're chasing her, you're already putting her on a pedestal, etc). I think your bigger issue is probably the way you are asking these people out or building attraction beforehand, so lets flesh that out.
/r/seduction29/05/13 06:43 PM
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I wouldn't think it would be any different than the advice for guys
/r/seduction24/05/13 02:59 PM
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Less bragging more technique
/r/seduction24/05/13 02:55 PM
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um that response is incredible.
/r/seduction23/05/13 07:46 PM
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The way I see it is stop thinking of it as flirting and just think of it as talking. Now if you brought this girl to a party where she knows no one and you go off and are talking to other people all night, I could see her feeling weird and you would be justified in feeling bad. If, on the other hand you show her the appropriate amount of attention and care, while still being fun and friendly and talking with other people at the party, then I cannot understand her getting upset, or you feeling ba…
/r/seduction13/05/13 06:58 PM
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getting her pregnant and not marrying her, etc. There you go!
/r/seduction13/05/13 06:01 PM
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Talking about your courses, while a somewhat boring topic, doesn't have to be boring. As someone else said, it's more about how you communicate than the exact topic of discussion.
/r/seduction13/05/13 04:54 PM
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So you think both people will just assume things are exclusive?
/r/seduction13/05/13 04:38 PM
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That seems ultra passive to me. It comes off like you aren't sure what the relationship is and are nervous to see how she feels and to put yourself out there. It doesn't seem assertive or confident to me.
/r/seduction13/05/13 04:32 PM
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I think its one of the worst places to try pick up girls, but if you're doing it purely for sport, act disinterested don't approach if they approach you, be confident and cockier than normal In the end, why do you want to pick up a stripper? First of all, it's an exercise in futility. Secondly, there are hotter girls without all ofthe baggage (trust me, they all have baggage).
/r/seduction13/05/13 04:19 PM
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"I thought you were writing an important email or something, it must have been something important for you to do it at the table"
/r/seduction10/05/13 07:13 PM
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You sound like a doctor. Sometimes I drink and then will have a slight headache the next day. I've found drinking a few glasses of water, eating something, and taking some tylenol or advil make me feel much better. Is it then bad for me to go to happy hour some hours later now that I feel better?
/r/seduction10/05/13 04:43 PM
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At the very least I think we've had an interesting discussion.
/r/seduction02/05/13 04:39 PM
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I don't disagree with what you are saying, but there are a lot of variables at play. You don't know why she didn't respond to your first text or whatever. Even though you say its not about wasting time, you say again: So I guess I could be forgiven for not getting too excited about wasting time for the remaining 1 out of 5 who either lack manners or interest. It takes no time. You aren't wasting any time or energy at all. I'm thinking it sounds like the fact that the 1/5 didn't respond is really…
/r/seduction02/05/13 04:05 PM
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If you can maintain your self respect (which shouldn't be affected by any negative interaction anyway), there is no reason not to reach out again and again, even if it leads no where. You do this while you're taking a shit, it's not like that is productive time you could be using to get new numbers. Worst case scenario the girl is slightly annoyed and slightly flattered at the same time.
/r/seduction02/05/13 03:05 PM
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Yes if and how they say it can certainly make them a bitch.
/r/seduction29/04/13 09:04 PM
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Might be I was too forward, because I did establish kino very early, and I kept touching her and holding her hand and stuff. (weird, I know) I guess she felt creeped out that I was so eager or something? Do not start thinking these things, this can be very negative. You played it right, you actually weren't aggressive enough. If she didn't like your touching she would have gotten up and left much faster. When you have those awkward moments of silence its a great time to go for the kiss, especial…
/r/seduction29/04/13 07:31 PM
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It doesn't make her a bitch, just like it doesn't make you a dick if you aren't attracted to a girl for some reason.
/r/seduction29/04/13 07:02 PM
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You miss every shot you don't take. None of us can make you go, but to me it seems like a wasted opportunity (for practice at the very least) to pass it up.
/r/seduction29/04/13 06:53 PM
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Since you've already established the date, just say "I'll pick you up at 6" and decide when you pick her up.
/r/seduction04/04/13 08:03 PM
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I think his real point is that with an app like this, the only thing that matters to your potential dates are your looks. It's like we're taking all of the great lessons we learn in this sub and throwing them out the window, since only girls that are already interested in you based purely on looks will even connect with you and have a chance to see how boss your personality is.
/r/seduction01/04/13 03:44 PM
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What city has zero nightlife? If it truly has zero nightlife then I can't imagine it is a city. If there is truly no nightlife, go where the people are, coffee shop, community event, farmers market
/r/seduction29/03/13 08:46 PM
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You handled it perfectly...this is like the ultimate open realtionship shit test.
/r/seduction29/03/13 08:13 PM
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Here's a simple idea so you can work up to more bold touching. If a girl approaches you, stand up out of the couch, and actually introduce yourself to her. Say, "Ya, I think I've seen you around too (extend hand) I'm watermelonpickle." Boom, you're already touching. Do some small talk or joke around and finish your drink, say, "Come get a drink with me" and with your hand on her waist or back, lead her into the other room with you. You've isolated.
/r/seduction29/03/13 06:10 PM
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I don't see why you can't use your usual line..just pretend you are texting.
/r/seduction01/03/13 09:14 PM
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The key is to actually lean back and be relaxed. Almost like you're sitting there waiting for something and choosing to entertain yourself in the meantime. You need the mindstate that that is something totally normal that you would do purely for your own entertainment, not because are trying to get anything other than self entertainment. Once you embody this and practice it, it will become natural to entertain yourself in moments like this by engaging those around you. I'd say "What, did your te…
/r/seduction27/02/13 10:48 PM
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They think you're not interested in them, because you aren't approaching. See, you both feel the same way. The truth is, you aren't approaching because you are scared. She is scared too. When a girl is scared who is supposed to make her fears go away and handle the problem? Right, a man.
/r/seduction27/02/13 09:03 PM
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No its on HBO
/r/TheRedPill26/02/13 10:14 PM
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If you have a conversation, be honest about your expectations. If they fuck you without having a conversation, and then expect that to mean you're in a relationship, well that is not your problem.
/r/seduction26/02/13 10:03 PM
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Have passions, have goals, have interests. Bottom line, do something with your time on this planet to either 1) make it a better place 2) make others happy or 3) make yourself happy.
/r/seduction26/02/13 08:50 PM
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I'm trying to help figure out the problem, because clearly from your picture people don't think you're unnattractive. Given what you've said and all of the negative reactions you've had i'm thinking there must be something about your personality, posture, voice, or something along those lines so please show all angles of your face and speak a few sentences.
/r/seduction26/02/13 08:40 PM
1

Are you also extremely videogenic? Why don't you post a video of yourself talking and we can see if there is something you are overlooking, or confirm that you have body/facial dismorphia.
/r/seduction26/02/13 08:13 PM
1

Then why would you call them "friends"? You reveal that you have friends who you consider lame, and that you are still friends with them, making you even more lame.
/r/seduction26/02/13 07:52 PM
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A hideous face cannot be hidden by a photo. You have major self esteem issues if you truly look good in photos but still think your face is hideous.
/r/seduction26/02/13 07:39 PM
2

She felt so uncomfortable touching him that she touched the guys penis with her vagina
/r/seduction26/02/13 05:43 PM
1

If it was truly awkward she wouldn't have gone home and slept with the guy. Actions speak farrrrr louder than words.
/r/seduction26/02/13 04:02 PM
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Why was it awkward or too apparent? Sure, the girl noticed he was touching her, but she still slept with him. Maybe she even liked that he was touching her? Girls still gossip with each other about their dates. (You're her girlfriend in this situation)
/r/seduction26/02/13 03:01 PM
2

I won't expend any effort searching for your picture, but what you just said is ridiculous. You look good in photos but your face is hideous in real life?
/r/seduction26/02/13 02:39 PM
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"He clearly didn't fail because I slept with him" That says it all folks. /thread
/r/seduction26/02/13 02:10 PM
2

If her reason is being too busy, the next time you ask just say "What's your schedule like this week?" If she says she's busy to that, then you know it's bullshit because everyone can find time out of a week for a date that they want to go on.
/r/seduction25/02/13 10:04 PM
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Just say old enough to be your dad or some other inane bullshit, because it's all just a shit test to see how you react, if you are confident in yourself.
/r/seduction25/02/13 09:54 PM
1

Avoiding eye contact could mean she likes what she saw, or it could mean the exact opposite. In fact, a lot of the time girls don't know how they even feel about you until you start talking to them and being a boss.
/r/seduction25/02/13 09:33 PM
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You just have to do it man. I feel the same way sometimes. It's ok to miss an opportunity here and there, but know that the more you just make yourself walk there and sit down, the easier and more natural it gets.
/r/seduction25/02/13 09:32 PM
1

What does she do or say? The post is pretty vague considering it deals with a specific situation.
/r/seduction25/02/13 09:28 PM
1

Yes, just try again with a better plan. Ideally something fun. If she doesn't respond positively then move on. Key is that you don't really care if she wants to come along or not and you won't even be slightly upset if she doesn't. Possibly put a little qualification into the invitation, like "Hey bunch of us are heading out to this house party downtown. You're invited, but no catfights, ok?"
/r/seduction22/02/13 10:10 PM
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I would recommend against ever making vague plans with a girl. Don't ever say "We should hang out sometime" "Let's get a drink sometime" etc. It should always be "Lets hang out this friday, I have so and so going on and it's gonna be fun" or "Hey come get a drink with me tonight." TL;DR: You asked a vague question and she gave a vague answer.
/r/seduction22/02/13 06:05 PM
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It's that you stop reading about seduction for a while and let the stuff that seeped into your brain do its work and mature a bit.
/r/seduction22/02/13 06:00 PM
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Only sith deal in absolutes.
/r/seduction21/02/13 09:20 PM
6

If she says yes that would mean she does mind if you sit with her.
/r/seduction21/02/13 09:17 PM
1

"The Rules" possibly? That is like the oldschool rules of the game for women.
/r/seduction20/02/13 10:49 PM
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Advertising
/r/seduction20/02/13 06:05 PM
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Push/pull, start/stop, rub her pussy, be confident.
/r/seduction20/02/13 03:09 PM
1

It doesn't sound like they have been friends for the past few years so this seems pretty deceptive to me
/r/seduction19/02/13 09:00 PM
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Have you been out of contact since you got into the relationship? And you know about this change in her relationship status through facebook only? In that case I probably wouldn't do anything because it's so obvious if you contact her out of the blue now. Then again, I think the best thing would be just to hit her up like you would any girl, meet up, and game her. It's always easier to find your way back somewhere once you've already been.
/r/seduction19/02/13 08:56 PM
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"You going to the party at xxx tonight?" "Nice, lets pregame, put your number here" "I'm going to need to steal all of your notes from this class, here, put your number in here" If you don't want to get friendzoned don't be needy, talk to her too much, or show too much interest. This would be better in askseddit
/r/seduction19/02/13 08:52 PM
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When does the competition end?
/r/TheRedPill19/02/13 06:21 PM
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What tactics were even discussed in the OP? It seems to me the OP is all about realizing that 'you' are worthy and good (he may not go about it in the most healthy way, but if it works for him it works), so what aspect of the post do you find dehumanizing? Was it "but she's clearly into me. You know what, now it's my fuckin turn!" ? I didn't mean to imply you are not manly, I just thought the tone of your post suggested you might be a woman, which would possibly help me understand what you found…
/r/seduction19/02/13 05:21 PM
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I wasn't the poster so not sure if your comments about "me" are actually directed at me, or at the OP...I merely sought clarification for what you found repulsive about his statement. Are you a women? How is this guy wanting to and being happy that he might be able to have relations with this girl a repulsive thing? Seriously I don't get why that's a bad thing. Is seeking sex at all repulsive to you? Should sex only be for procreation? Finally, what are you doing in this subreddit?
/r/seduction19/02/13 05:01 PM
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glad I said it then
/r/seduction19/02/13 04:53 PM
2

Why is that repulsive?
/r/seduction19/02/13 04:45 PM
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You could take it that way, or you could take it as her not wanting OP to think less of her or be intimidated by her relationship with this other guy.
/r/seduction19/02/13 04:42 PM
3

All publicity is good publicity?
/r/seduction19/02/13 04:28 PM
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People can be idiots
/r/seduction19/02/13 04:25 PM
3

great men (Kobe Bryant, Tiger Woods, Eddie Murphy, ect.) Ha
/r/TheRedPill19/02/13 03:48 PM
1

I think if you have to ask these questions, getting married to this person probably isn't a good idea. You are aware of the risks, and you describe this person as "a girl i'm talking to" so I can't imagine you are extremely "in love."
/r/MensRights18/02/13 09:40 PM
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Because if you've been raped it might be traumatic to read about rape, possibly
/r/MensRights18/02/13 09:03 PM
0

You obviously have preconceived notions. Some "PUAs" are the way you describe, but that doesn't mean that everyone who calls themself a "PUA" is the way you describe. Just like not all "feminists" are "feminazis".
/r/MensRights18/02/13 08:56 PM
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Then you imagined too much.
/r/seduction13/02/13 10:52 PM
2

You didn't say send a text once in a while, you said "go all out on facebook and texting." Big difference. You can have text sex if you want, sure, but the fact is that if you had other girls begging you to fuck them you wouldn't be spending your precious time "try[ing] to escalate" through text.
/r/seduction12/02/13 09:43 PM
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Why not just go out and gain actual experience actually escalating with girls closer? You can't escalate through text.
/r/seduction12/02/13 07:43 PM
1

I have a feeling he means he's not american.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/13 10:58 PM
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You want him to trust you but you don't trust him. Different things work for different people. Life isn't black and white.
/r/TheRedPill31/01/13 09:03 PM
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This type of behavior is so un-alpha its not funny. We're making fun of guys here like they are idiots for getting caught up in the blue pill mentality. I just think we could all spend our time doing something a bit more productive, decidedly more alpha than sitting around circle-jerking about how beta some guy is. Perhaps you're confused about what alpha means? ps. you're not ribbing anyone, you're anonymously making fun of people who aren't here to defend themselves.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/13 07:51 PM
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I can understand that, but would you say that something personal cannot also be meant for public consumption? For instance, do you feel the same way about people with bumper stickers on their car?
/r/TheRedPill30/01/13 06:13 PM
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That's your concept of what a tattoo is for. Don't assume that everyone views the world, or tattoos, the same as you.
/r/TheRedPill30/01/13 05:47 PM
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Public shaming is probably good for general acknowledgement from society. General acknowledgement of what?
/r/TheRedPill30/01/13 04:13 PM
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IMO, this is a bit ridiculous. Now we aren't just here to discuss things and improve ourselves, but to actively talk shit about other men?
/r/TheRedPill30/01/13 03:52 PM
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Just becuase people are dynamic and different doesn't mean you can't like two of them equally, or equally enough that your decision on which to hang out with might be difficult, barring some deciding factor, like for example which one will let you put your penis inside them.
/r/seduction18/01/13 02:54 PM
1

Yes that's exactly what I thought, since you're practically fawning over her, complaining about how she's too good to be true.
/r/seduction18/01/13 02:53 PM
1

I don't ask if its ok when I kiss someone, take off their shirt, or start fucking them. If they don't want that I will have given them ample opportunity to stop things. Same thing, You don't ask if its ok to talk to someone, you assume that it is and make them tell you it isn't. Maybe a job in sales would be helpful to change your way of thinking a bit.
/r/seduction17/01/13 09:14 PM
3

Way to put her on the pedestal.
/r/seduction17/01/13 07:34 PM
3

here are a few ideas. have similar interests attraction to intellect don't have to worry about them leaving for another girl believe that that type of guy would appreciate them more or treat them better best they think they can do a million other things
/r/seduction17/01/13 07:33 PM
0

Will you really not spend time with a woman just because she won't fuck you? Don't think he said that at all. If you have 3 girls call you to hang out one night, and they all like you as a person and are equally fun to hang out with and you like them all as people about equally, but only 1 is probably going to be dtf at the end of the night, maybe you would rather hang out with her? And now when that scenario happens to you every day you see how you might just not really hang out with the one wh…
/r/seduction17/01/13 06:56 PM
1

Its ok to text a girl who doesn't usually text on her initiative. Frequently is where I have a problem. Texting should be to set up a meet-up, so you shouldn't be frequently texting her, especially just to say hi or something
/r/seduction17/01/13 02:41 PM
10

Only a sith deals in absolutes.
/r/seduction17/01/13 02:39 PM
1

Only if you think it does.
/r/seduction16/01/13 10:57 PM
2

You're overthinking this. Say hey when you pass a hot girl in the hall if you want, or don't. It doesn't really matter. The idea is to treat people like you treat your friends/acquaintances, like it's just totally natural for you to say hi to someone. If you want to talk to a girl, yes having a normal human conversation with them is a good idea. If you just want to say hi, you can do that too. /r/highseddit
/r/seduction16/01/13 10:49 PM
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I'm not the person who posted, but yes I think that sex is a part of a healthy relationship. I occasionally hear about sexless marriages where the complainant is the woman, but far more often it is the man not getting the sex he would like.
/r/TheRedPill14/01/13 10:04 PM
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Man...I agree with most red-pill teachings, but I also hold onto and strongly believe in the "leave them better than you found them" ideal. Do you attribute any of these downfalls to the way you treated girls or broke up with them? I say use this redpill knowledge, but don't let it corrupt your entire being and thought process. I don't walk around hating women, because that would make life fucking crap, instead I walk around loving women, but recognizing their differences and flaws (most of whic…
/r/TheRedPill14/01/13 09:35 PM
1

In that situation, you say "Wow you look stunning tonight, that outfit is incredible" not just "You're hot" or "You're beautiful," which attractive women hear all the time. That is the idea.
/r/seduction09/01/13 06:53 PM
1

The mall, the bookstore, the street, the grocery store, the park, a class, a coffeeshop, a bar, a club, literally anywhere women are, which is everywhere. edit - teach me, what wrong or downvote worthy about my post here?
/r/seduction08/01/13 05:44 PM
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Well to start, I would say most people don't like their SO flirting, building attraction, or whatever you want to call it with their friends. That often does lead to insecurity in relationships (rightfully so, in my opinion). That said, I don't see how expressing his discomfort could come from any place other than insecurity, and how it could reflect any way but negatively on the boyfriend. It comes across as needy, unconfident and insecure. I've been guilty of both making friends uncomfortable …
/r/seduction08/01/13 05:43 PM
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put on his big-boy pants and express to his GF and/or you that the behavior makes him uncomfortable and expect to lose his girlfriend.
/r/seduction08/01/13 05:27 PM
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Congratulations. I don't know why you'd want to do that, considering probably half of the people you talk to in life are shop workers, food servers, etc who you most likely wouldn't be sexually attracted. Also, if someone says, "No, I won't give you my number even though you seem like a nice guy, since I'm in a relationship/married", what do you say to get their number?
/r/seduction08/01/13 03:53 PM
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If they don't want to give you their number, it's because you have "done something wrong" previously in the interaction. That is definitely not the only reason why someone wouldn't give you their number. There are things like in a happy committed relationship, not interested in making new friends, doesn't have a phone, has had a bad traumatic experience with giving their number out. It's shit like this that makes guys crazy, thinking that if a technique doesn't work THEY FUCKING SUCK AND ARE IDI…
/r/seduction07/01/13 10:09 PM
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You don't even know what you want. You shouldn't be playing around with these tools and/or people's emotions if you don't even know what you want or how you're going to handle the resulting (entirely predictable) situation. Either continue on with the "we're just friends and that's great" letting her be mad, and not giving a shit. Or, realize that you don't want to be just friends, make a move on her and see where things go. Try to think about what you want and do it, don't just always be reacti…
/r/seduction07/01/13 02:58 PM
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Not your concern. Remember, girls talk shit about the guys they love fucking all the time. Those dickhead bad-boys that they love.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/13 10:26 PM
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yes ... thanks ....
/r/seduction04/01/13 10:25 PM
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Sorry, why did you have to leave the date early? It's not like the baby was about to be born, if it had existed at all.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/13 08:49 PM
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Well, you're a guy, so you're supposed to want to fuck her (in her mind), so the fact that you drop her off, give her a kiss, and don't try to fuck her might make her feel unattractive, or like you just aren't into her. Just an idea, by no means am I saying that this is what's going on in your situation.
/r/seduction04/01/13 07:34 PM
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rape your hole family I've never heard a person's collection of orrifices referred to as a "hole family"
/r/seduction04/01/13 07:33 PM
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I just want to say that my parents have been married my whole life, and I still didn't learn how to attract women from my father.
/r/seduction04/01/13 06:45 PM
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You need to make it exciting, not boring. There are two standard approaches. Oldschool: Don't tell her what you do. Make it into a game where you throw out ridiculous jobs (ass model is the classic, edible underwear taste-tester, somali pirate catcher) never really saying what you do. This is fun for both of you, and establishes that you are in control and don't feel the need to answer her every question or be serious at all. Newschool: Tell her, but tell her in the most passionate, emotional, a…
/r/seduction04/01/13 06:42 PM
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No man it doesn't spell disaster. You say, "Haha no, lets go over here and you can remind me what it is." or "Haha of course, Florene!" or whatever dumb thing you want. It doesn't make sense and that's why it works.
/r/seduction03/01/13 09:27 PM
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That's beautiful. Keep that shit in the back of your mind, but stop pining after her, and stop thinking you two will end up together. Start seeing her as a great friend, which it sounds like is exactly what she is. Move the fuck on, you're too young to be caught on one girl. Perhaps after you're done with college, a romantic relationship can form, once you have more experience. Right now it sounds like a romantic relationship is impossible, otherwise my advice would be to make a move on her. It'…
/r/seduction03/01/13 08:30 PM
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Can you elaborate? signs of an interested Spanish woman... or worse, don't understand the signs of an uninterested Spanish woman. In what ways are the signs different from other cultures you've experienced?
/r/seduction03/01/13 07:40 PM
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This is the very definition of oneitis. You need to move on because this isn't going to work out. You're going to college next year, believe me, getting into an unfulfilling relationship at the end of senior year is not a good idea. Just tell her you appreciate her as a friend, but that you don't like the drama, or something and keep it light. When you go away and grow as a person, and she does the same, perhaps when you come back you two can have a real friendship, or possibly some other type o…
/r/seduction03/01/13 07:36 PM
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Um...you're basing a lot of advice on 1 anecdote. If you told her maybe you wouldn't have fucked her at all that night. Since you waited until things went sour to tell her, her reaction to that piece of knowledge cannot be relied upon for any sort of conclusion.
/r/seduction02/01/13 05:41 PM
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Let me ask you this, when you meet a girl, lets say at a club or bar, and talk to them, flirt, maybe makeout, do you want to fuck them? If you want to fuck them, you gotta "take them out" or at least hang out with them again, so in that sense, dating becomes natural. Don't think of dating as this big scary thing, just think of it as the pathway you take to starting to fuck a girl. Then again, theres nothing wrong with just enjoying the initial flirting and stuff, IMO. There is no set thing that …
/r/seduction28/12/12 10:42 PM
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Fortunately, if you're in the friend zone there is little risk of back fire causing any real problem.
/r/seduction28/12/12 09:42 PM
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but if a guy tries to prove his worth that is a sign of an alpha male Bullshit. You don't need to prove your worth because you are confident and comfortable with yourself. If someone can't see your worth you don't spend time trying to prove them wrong or show it to them, you move on or laugh it off, because you are comfortable in the knowledge that it is THEIR loss and not YOURS.
/r/seduction28/12/12 09:41 PM
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I actually think its better if, the first time, you say "Just friends" and then if she asks about it you repeat it but leave out the "Just".
/r/seduction28/12/12 09:39 PM
2

Have you been in a relationship? Like an actual girlfriend/boyfriend type thing?
/r/seduction28/12/12 09:34 PM
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Its not like most people who come in here with a question take the time to read the sidebar anyway. Just like on forums where no one actually reads the stickies.
/r/seduction28/12/12 09:29 PM
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I do too, in my control. What I don't do is leave my phone around without a password so that any of my friends can then go into my pictures and email those photos to themself.
/r/seduction28/12/12 09:07 PM
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Ya, I get what you're saying. I have mine on because I have naked pictures of chicks on my phone that I don't want my friends looking at or sending to themselves if I put my phone down. Also, being a one time phone snooper myself, I prefer to just be safe than sorry.
/r/seduction28/12/12 06:41 PM
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Does a guy just say "You don't seem very impressed" right off the bat or is this somewhat into him trying to initiate conversation and you not reciprocating? Personally, if a girl I try to talk to just acts totally uninterested, I will probably just walk away. There are billions of people out there, and a good portion of them simply aren't interested in new relationships for a multitude of reasons. Theres nothing wrong with this. At the same time, lots of girls act uninterested up until the poin…
/r/seduction28/12/12 06:14 PM
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Just take it as a compliment.
/r/seduction28/12/12 05:06 PM
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Have you read any materials at all about texting? Like, for instance, the guides to text/phone game right in the sidebar? ------>
/r/seduction28/12/12 04:48 PM
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I see..I'm more worried about what someone might say to me. Then again, I also don't want people looking through my pictures if I happen to put my phone down.
/r/seduction28/12/12 02:31 PM
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Sorry, why is that?
/r/seduction28/12/12 02:13 PM
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It sounds like you've made up your mind about the teeth. That's great. I just don't want you to be crushed if this doesn't up your game a ton. It's probably still money well spent honestly.
/r/seduction27/12/12 10:47 PM
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If you can't see the path to the 2nd date or whatever, don't send that text. In this case, respond, "Want to grab a drink tonight? Shaken or stirred?" or something if you want to keep playing on the bond theme. People (me included) think wayyy too much about text game and the specifics of what they're going to say.
/r/seduction27/12/12 10:37 PM
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Ok. Stop justifying this to random internet strangers. I gave you the permission you have been seeking. If you're going to, it's something you should have done and then never speak of again. Some people have really shitty teeth and get laid all the time, because they are otherwise awesome, and don't let the teeth affect them. Just putting that out there.
/r/seduction27/12/12 10:34 PM
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Who cares what they think? If getting your teeth fixed is going to make you feel better about yourself then by all means go for it man. Just don't expect it to have crazy ramifications on your game, although it might.
/r/seduction27/12/12 10:25 PM
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Was this just playful texting, or leading to anything? What you said is fine, fun and playful, but IMHO comes across as trying too hard. I think it goes against the first point in the article, which is most essential. Everything you say in text should be about getting closer to a face to face interaction.
/r/seduction27/12/12 10:22 PM
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I guess I think you should try to focus more on yourself and less on those around you. Work out more, eat better, dress better. All of these things will make you feel better about yourself. They will all help make it easier to find success with women. Improving yourself in these ways will give you more confidence, and once you see that you are desirable, etc, I think you will start to not worry about the other people around you.
/r/seduction26/12/12 11:00 PM
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and I still feel like I look 18 your typical late bloomer I feel like girls my own age view me less sexually as they would someone with a full beard I notice a lot of these things being based on YOUR impression, not any evidence given to you by other people. Have you been rejected because a girl thought you looked young? To me, these sound like limiting beliefs that you hold, which yes, probably do influence the way others see you. I think if you accept the way things are, that you have a young …
/r/seduction26/12/12 09:23 PM
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Then stay friends with her. That means you treat her like other friends, like your guy friends. Don't accept behavior that you don't like. That doesn't mean bitch about it or cry about it or get angry about it, it means just don't continously accept treatment or behavior you don't like. Move on without thinking twice if you don't like the way someone acts or treats you.
/r/seduction26/12/12 09:14 PM
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Lame and stupid and totally out of the "stupid whores" control. This is deep shit man this doesn't just happen by girls being "stupid whores" Also, can you refrain from using language like that? Makes you seem like a dumb meathead and brings the level of the subreddit down, even further.
/r/seduction26/12/12 05:11 PM
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Since she was a low-self esteem as you describe, I would assume that eventually she either got fed up with you not having sex (becuase it made her feel unnattractive), or she got really horny and cheated, and then felt bad so didn't try to repair things. I think, particularly with low self-esteem girls, especially if they are attractive, its easy for them to feel unnattractive, which turns them off. They expect guys to want to fuck them, so if you don't, it's weird.
/r/seduction26/12/12 05:08 PM
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Move on. Break away. Do something good for yourself and go on an adventure. When you come back, you're a different person so don't let yourself fall back into the same patterns.
/r/seduction26/12/12 05:01 PM
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Double benefit of her thinking that you're trying to imply that she's fat.
/r/seduction26/12/12 04:35 PM
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I would have really preferred if you gave us a little bit of the pre-story so we could understand the context of her using this line. Without that it is really hard to say how to go forward other than generic shit like "agree and amplify."
/r/seduction26/12/12 04:33 PM
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Not sure of the distinction in the last paragraph, it should be more about your honor and morals, based on what you know to be true or understood, not based on a technicality.
/r/seduction22/12/12 02:49 AM
1

she is the kind of girl that never involves with anyone at night, well, that was true till she met me ahah Why does this matter and/or why do you believe it? It sounds like you have a little case of oneitis, and it sounds like she is in a bit more demand than you. If you're taking things slow, then I would recommend seeing other girls (assuming you aren't in an exclusive relationship), and trying to make your life as awesome as it can be (or awesomer than hers), so that she wants to spend more t…
/r/seduction21/12/12 10:18 PM
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Why does it matter? I mean really what is the reason for you thinking about this?
/r/seduction21/12/12 09:57 PM
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The autism thing is probably the worst limiting belief and/or excuse making i've heard. Do not go down that path of thinking. Why does being yourself not include building attraction? A guy who knows tons of people and is having a great time sounds pretty attractive to me. Give me an idea of a) why you think being yourself is currently anti-attractive and b) Why actively trying to build attraction is not fun for you, and we may be able to take this discussion somewhere productive.
/r/seduction20/12/12 10:53 PM
2

Well we all know the world is ending tonight, do you want to be Mayan?
/r/seduction20/12/12 10:50 PM
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Yet if you do "respect" someone you would generally be up front with them and tell them you aren't interested, or just want to be friends, or something at least, not just completely ignore their attempt to communicate with you. That said, there is no reason to expect respect from someone you have known or spoken with minimally.
/r/seduction20/12/12 10:29 PM
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I think the issue is more that after this person flakes, offering little explanation and not offering a reschedule, you then what, wait a week and ask them out again? Or do you make her "make it up to you" by asking you out?
/r/seduction20/12/12 10:19 PM
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Can you talk a bit how you use the opportunity to solidify your alpha status and redefine your boundaries? Would this be just laying down the law, "Ok...I really don't like flakey people, so I don't think this is going to work out." or something else?
/r/seduction20/12/12 10:16 PM
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It's hard to say without some examples of when "you've made everyone around you uncomfortable" by stepping out of your comfort zone. That could mean anything. That said, I think an important thing to try to embody is that you don't approach girls with the intent to take them home or to close them, but with the mindset of meeting someone new, and causing you both to have more fun in that minute/hour/night than you would have otherwise. If you approach it like this, and try to treat a woman like y…
/r/seduction20/12/12 09:54 PM
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Hey man, you might as well hit her up if you are in her area, and hope that she does the same. Given that, there is really no reason to text her when you're not in the same area, and doing so will come off a bit needy. Why do you feel the need to talk to her often? Imagine that she is just as worried about dropping off your radar.
/r/seduction19/12/12 10:46 PM
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You wouldn't know you'd been lied to, and in most cases, you would probably hold out hope that she actually was into you, which usually does more harm than just realizing its not going to work out and moving on.
/r/seduction02/10/12 02:53 PM
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Think about it, these girls are chilling with this guy when another guy approaches, then then leaves. The girls aren't just going to say nothing about that situation and let it pass undiscussed. It's kind of natural to sort of make fun of the guy, so that the girls all feel good about themselves and the situation passes by without the guy at the table feeling weird either.
/r/seduction28/09/12 07:05 PM
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Like TolarianFapper says, you need to show them a range, where they can see your full personality, including the parts that they "want," like niceness, comfort, romance, chivalry, etc. The key is to not forget what attracted them in the first place and turn into a full on pussy. Give them just little tastes of that romantic, nice, complimentary guy, but make sure they know (through your actions) that you are still the assertive, dominant man that they were initially attracted to, and that you ha…
/r/seduction28/09/12 04:13 PM
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They come back because you were non reactive (i assume) to them blowing you off. You moved on without letting it affect you, you didn't try to call them, you didn't call them a bitch. Since it didn't matter that they blew you off, it shouldn't matter when they come back. You shouldn't be angry, you shouldn't have any negative feelings, other than maybe "this girl is kinda unreliable." Just take it for what it is and if you are interested then proceed as normal.
/r/seduction28/09/12 04:09 PM
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True, just forget the blowjob and move on, no reason to get caught up on it.
/r/seduction28/09/12 04:06 PM
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...why are you posting this? To elaborate, the texts make you seem like a jealous teen, possibly tween.
/r/seduction28/09/12 04:04 PM
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mid conversation, "Cool...Hey let's chill (since norml meeting, replace with smoke) sometime, put your number in." <pull out phone, go to number entry, and hand to her> In this case, you aren't showing that much interest, just a little bit, more of a friendly interest, so it leaves things open for you to hang out with her and her friends and get to know them as well.
/r/seduction27/09/12 07:27 PM
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I don't think a girl has ever answered when I call them.
/r/seduction27/09/12 03:16 PM
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we're talking, at the bar, waiting for a drink, and the girl says, "Is that a new shirt?" I would say, "Yes. I know....it's very sexy, but whoa whoa whoa, you're going to have to do more than compliment my shirt to get in these pants tonight (points at dick)." This would be said really slowly, strong eye contact, and a not so serious face. I'm super annoyingly sarcastic and that works for me. YMMV.
/r/seduction25/09/12 06:58 PM
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I didn't downvote you, but did you think that would be an obvious joke? Just like with texts, your big grin and joking voice don't come over in this form of communication.
/r/seduction25/09/12 04:53 PM
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Notice I congratulated him on that? Are you suggesting that this thread should just be a congratulatory one where we don't discuss anything? I've gotten used to the fact that people rarely use protection, but it still makes me judge a person somewhat if they don't even suggest or discuss it.
/r/seduction25/09/12 04:02 PM
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I tried to think of some things that work for me, but they are so situational and body language/tone dependant that I think providing them as examples may do more harm than good. Basically any time you can take what the girl said and turn it into them coming onto you, but you denying the come-on, while also clearly not being serious, seems to work for me.
/r/seduction25/09/12 02:51 PM
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This mindstate is hilarious. No protection, two girls, neither of whom requested protection, and you conclude that they are both of high moral character and safe/good as far as safe sex/stds are concerned. Think about that. That said, tall props on your victory.
/r/seduction25/09/12 02:41 PM
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"Hey, sorry but some stuff came up, I will tell you all about it, but either you will have to drive to xx town (optional: and chauffeur me around), or I will need to reschedule." A question this specific should be posted to askseddit, IMO.
/r/seduction25/09/12 02:31 PM
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I don't think girls can resist any creed scent, in my experience. Prices on the other hand, are out of control.
/r/seduction07/09/12 03:29 PM
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I've seen it. If that was supposed to be a joke reference it really wasn't funny or good. If you wanted to make a joke it should have involved being really really ridiculously good looking. edit - or a gasoline fire.
/r/seduction06/09/12 08:12 PM
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Anytime you don't know what to do, grab her hand, lift it above her head, and spin that shit
/r/seduction06/09/12 08:09 PM
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If the main problem is jitters and stutters, honestly, maybe try talking to yourself a bit while you're getting ready. I know it sounds dumb but thats the most private type of practice you're going to get and as long as no one overhears you, it can't hurt your reputation.
/r/seduction06/09/12 07:31 PM
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Is that even a question? You wouldn't like to get paid to hang out with really hot girls, have someone rub oil on your pecs, have people constantly fawning over you, etc? Or are you asking why he pointed it out?
/r/seduction06/09/12 07:26 PM
1

This is why assume attraction is such an essential concept. Learn it, live it.
/r/seduction06/09/12 05:51 PM
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Say hi, then talk about stuff, including class, the start of the new year, etc. Say "Lets do something this weekend, give me your number and i'll give you a call saturday"
/r/seduction06/09/12 02:21 PM
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Definitely don't bring it up. Central tennet of being an attractive guy, BE NON REACTIVE. That means you do things that you want to do, becuase you want to do them, and you've reasoned this out. If someone criticizses something you do, it shouldn't even phase you, because your reality is the strongest. Think, who cares how that girl reacted, do you really care about her approval? No. Not caring about her approval is powerful and makes her want your approval more.
/r/seduction05/09/12 08:50 PM
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Ok I didn't read everything at the end. this is too long for such a minute encounter. How to act tomorrow: like absolutely nothing happened and you couldn't care a less. You HAVE NOT spent all night thinking about this, and HAVE DEFINITELY NOT made a super long reddit post about it. If it comes up (which it won't because she is shy), you should have the mindstate that what you did was comletely normal, and they were weird for thinking otherwise. FYI, I agree that it is weird to say "ya, you look…
/r/seduction05/09/12 08:23 PM
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Did you actually read the entire post before you made this completely pointless response?
/r/seduction05/09/12 08:17 PM
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School is tough man, its still kind of a popularity contest or something. Definitely if you are too eager or too desperate for new friends that will push people away. It's a balancing act and I can't really give many pointers. I would just encourage you to 1) try to find your own fun, 2) try to find some cool people who are also looking for stuff to do, 3) enjoy yourself and don't put so much pressure to go to parties and stuff. Instead, try meeting some girls around campus.
/r/seduction05/09/12 06:33 PM
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It might be because you're saying frosh? haha i'm just messing with you, but really, don't say that. You need to work on building up your social network at the school. The more people you know the more people you might run into who know about a party. I would say though that you want to try to avoid always being the person who other people bring to the party, if that makes any sense. Just like seddit preaches about giving back, leaving others better than you found them, etc, you don't want to ju…
/r/seduction05/09/12 05:54 PM
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Well I would text her back and say, "Listen, this isn't some lame attempt to see you again, I seriously accidentally left my watch at your place and I would really like to get it back." If after that you still don't get a response you're pretty much fucked. You can try just showing up there but be ready for her to call you a stalker and shit.
/r/seduction05/09/12 05:49 PM
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Just be a fun guy. She's probably there to have a good time, so just help make it fun, without being overbearing. Just hang out, and if there is a good opportunity, put your arm around her, hold her hand, try to kiss her. These types of things. If you want some specifics you can ask, or read about "escalation" & "kino". This is probably better for /r/highseddit
/r/seduction05/09/12 03:31 PM
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I really wasn't asking for advice and I still think we are at a misunderstanding about what I was trying to say, but no harm done. Have a good night.
/r/seduction04/09/12 10:00 PM
1

I'm saying, as the friend, its easy to misread the signal from your girl friend.
/r/seduction04/09/12 08:14 PM
1

I understand and agree with everything you say, but: where a simple flash of the eyes from a girl friend of mine is a distress signal saying "get this creepy fuck away from me." This is how you took it, but I've been in a situation where I receive and think I correctly decipher the same type of signal, only to later realize that the signal was actually "I'm embarassed because this guy is hitting on me in front of you (another guy), and I actually kinda like it." So my point is just that the guy …
/r/seduction04/09/12 06:41 PM
1

My real underlying point is that you need to realize that there are some percentage of people, even those who click your profile, who will not respond to your message no matter what, even if you make your profile the best thing in the world. Maybe they weren't attracted to you, maybe they saw your sign and didn't like it. Who knows? Just keep putting your best foot forward and don't spend too much time worrying about unsuccesses.
/r/seduction04/09/12 04:15 PM
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Definitely vampire_kashta's advice, but in my opinion its normal that 10% or less of people who view your profile respond. Since your message was good enough to get them to click your profile, maybe its your profile that's the problem? Then again, maybe its just life, and there is no problem at all.
/r/seduction04/09/12 02:46 PM
0

Why are you chilling on seduction ??? >: (
/r/seduction04/09/12 02:41 PM
1

whoa whoa whoa. As a bartender, can't you tell when someone is just being overly protective? If some guy is being a douche cause I talk to his friend, I don't really put much weight in his feelings. Do you, as a bartender? On the other hand, if the girl tells me to get lost or whatever (herself) I will respect that. Thoughts?
/r/seduction04/09/12 02:39 PM
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Sure, build attraction, make out, build comfort, isolate, bang, get number, get pancakes, go home, close the door behind you. No, there are no specifics on closing, because "closing" is not a specific thing. Ask a more specific question, and realistically this should have been posted in /r/askseddit
/r/seduction31/08/12 06:31 PM
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If you come into close proximity with someone you should at least acknowledge them, say hi, nod your head, something (i'm talking everyone, not just cute girls). That is just the curteous thing to do. Make that a habbit. If you did that, she probably would have said hi and you might have talked. Nothing is lost, even with this girl, just remember to say hi next time.
/r/seduction31/08/12 05:41 PM
1

Whatever works to motivate you I guess...just don't make it a habbit because strip clubs will suck away your money, your soul, and occasionally your penis.
/r/seduction31/08/12 05:26 PM
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You didn't even ask anything specific. Be awesome, have fun, flirt, kino, isolate, escalate, make out, bang. O and read the sidebar
/r/seduction31/08/12 05:24 PM
1

Yes, do fulfilling things that you enjoy. D things to make yourself a better person. Focus on yourself and not on other people.
/r/seduction30/08/12 07:58 PM
1

Practice, and an actual abundance of women helps. Be busy.
/r/seduction30/08/12 07:45 PM
1

Cut her off from your thoughts and focus on yourself.
/r/seduction30/08/12 07:44 PM
1

Escalate as normal, get them very horny, say, "I am so turned on, too bad you aint gettin any tonight." Take it from there, being honest that you want to fuck her but not at your place.
/r/seduction30/08/12 07:22 PM
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The only way is through experience. You need to learn to stay in the moment, be non-reactive, all the normal things that /r/seduction preaches. This is the result of you faking-it-til-you-make-it, and once that confidence becomes real this won't be as big of a problem. The only way to get real confidence is through experience.
/r/seduction30/08/12 07:16 PM
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This is called: Being alive. Enjoy it.
/r/seduction30/08/12 02:06 PM
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Whereas this way, its the other way around. He (and I do the same thing) is clearly wondering if she will text back As of now, she has not responded but I would be surprised if she does not Take that power from the beginning and just hold back on that last text, completely flip the script. Same with not responding to every little detail of a girls text, it really is powerful when you don't quite answer something they want to know.
/r/seduction29/08/12 04:58 PM
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Andddd thats a wrap, saw this as basically her saying "I want to get drunk and hook up with you on thursday", no further texting is required Me: Looking forward to it, I'm gonna get to sleep, try not to think about Wang and I TOO much. Why did you send the last text then? I think it would have been stronger to let her have the last word. Otherwise good texting. Are these word for word? They read really long to me.
/r/seduction29/08/12 01:52 PM
3

God that is so hard for me to comprehend
/r/seduction28/08/12 08:19 PM
1

Not to mention the obvious nlp snapping in her face?
/r/seduction28/08/12 08:14 PM
1

What, you say "I'm really not interested in going out with you or meeting you again" after they message you a few times, and they just keep sending you messages? I would think after 5-10 unanswered messages even the most ridiculously persistent people would stop, after you have been clear with them that you are not now or ever going to be interested in them. I would suggest google voice if this is really a problem. You might have actually missed out on meeting some good people?
/r/seduction28/08/12 08:07 PM
1

Anything's possible buddy, but don't count on it. This question comes out of a scarcity mentality I believe.
/r/seduction28/08/12 04:16 PM
3

lol what is this supposed to mean? That you aren't straight up with them?
/r/seduction28/08/12 04:14 PM
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NO, girls like guys with feelings (to a point), what they don't like is guys with feelings for them, or other things that they shouldn't care about yet.
/r/seduction28/08/12 04:12 PM
1

Ding Ding. This is all conditioning
/r/seduction28/08/12 04:09 PM
0

So you have no self-control unless your boyfriend is there?
/r/seduction28/08/12 04:08 PM
2

Were I in your shoes, I would say to myself "My game is quite tight" and move on. She's just saying you aren't a creep like all the other guys that hit on her. Yes, it is an in. Yes, a lot of girls want to be seduced even if they are in a relationship and will put up little hints and fake defenses for you to break through. No, I don't recommend pushing hard, as in my experience it doesn't feel that good afterward.
/r/seduction28/08/12 01:16 PM
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Sorry, I thought it was implied based not only this subreddit, but the conversation at hand, that we are talking about a situation where I have made my sexual intentions clear (or at least implied). Also, as someone who has had a girlfriend who had many "O he's been my friend forever, he's gay, and I would never hook up with him" who she did hook up with, I may be slightly jaded about this topic.
/r/seduction27/08/12 07:40 PM
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Ya I just hold myself to a little higher standard I guess. If a girl tells me she doesn't give her number out because she is in a relationship, I respect that and respect her even more for her honesty. I don't need to convince her to go against her morals and give in, because there are other girls out there who would happily give me their number.
/r/seduction27/08/12 07:05 PM
1

?? He just saw her and was standing next to her. Getting to know her friends is pretty passively stalky. Why not just say hi to her and get to know her directly?
/r/seduction27/08/12 06:42 PM
3

After those mental exercises you might not even want to hit on her. Anxiety and problems solved.
/r/seduction27/08/12 06:41 PM
17

Really? Would you like if your hypothetical girlfriend gave her number out to guys?
/r/seduction27/08/12 05:27 PM
1

Just keep acting like you were before you ever went on the date.
/r/seduction27/08/12 03:47 PM
1

When does this even come up? How do you know how many people she's slept with? Just don't ask, and try not to think about it.
/r/seduction27/08/12 03:13 PM
1

No, if you look, and she doesn't make eye contact, you should break staring at her face after 1-2 seconds at the longest. It's only when your eyes meet that "holding eye contact" comes into play.
/r/seduction23/08/12 09:51 PM
2

As long as it isn't out of fear or some other emotion, its ok.
/r/seduction23/08/12 04:46 PM
8

Sorry, that is not eye contact, that is staring at someone.
/r/seduction23/08/12 04:45 PM
3

...and sunglasses are for beta pussies that can't make and hold eye contact with a hot chick. I guess that's where my game has been weak. Shit.
/r/seduction20/08/12 07:04 PM
1

Ya, people aren't attracted to friendly, nice, available. Think back to when you were in elementary school, or maybe middle school. Did you want to be friends with the kid who was super nice to everyone or the kid who had a little more of an edge or some mystery?
/r/seduction20/08/12 02:39 PM
1

I have an idea. If you just returned to your alma mater recently and noticed this, maybe its because the only people there right now are athletes who are doing pre-season training? I know my school had a trainer/coach who used starting strength and they refitted the entire gym's equipment based on his needs, so perhaps they got a new coach like that.
/r/seduction20/08/12 02:36 PM
7

Hardcore makeout sessions lead to people getting turned on, which naturally leads to sex. A kiss doesn't have to lead to sex but heavy making out usually should/does.
/r/seduction20/08/12 02:33 PM
2

Ya don't make a big deal out of it, just do what they said. When you want to do so and so just contact that girl and tell her you want to do that and she should come along. When you are in [area] you should hit that girl up and tell her you're around and to come have a drink. Take it from there. The only way you can embarass yourself is by reading way too much into these messages and making a big deal out of them.
/r/seduction17/08/12 09:33 PM
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In my experience, people don't propose to do things, and don't tell you to call them if you're around, just to be nice. If either of this things were said to me I would take them as openings to connect. They are both saying "Lets hang out in person, not talk on the internet." also, I know its hard, but try to get over the embarassment thing. A lot of this stuff feels embarassing, until you realize that you're actually taking control and making things happen. Even if its not 100% success, you're …
/r/seduction17/08/12 08:39 PM
3

Well you shouldn't be drunk driving anyway, so even if you have your license you probably don't want to drive to the club. Sounds like public transportation is out, so I would either try to ride with a friend, take a cab, or ride a bike as a last resort. It will obviously make bringing girls home much harder, if not impossible, so just be realistic about that and either try to get them to take you home, hop in a cab with them, or fuck in an alley.
/r/seduction17/08/12 08:31 PM
1

Words are words, they aren't real. Actions are concrete, they are in the past, and they cannot be denied. For me, it depends on the person, but there are some acquaintances who's words mean very little to me. Others' I take at face value. I think a good default is to take them with a grain of salt. The action is what actually matters and therefore what should be judged.
/r/seduction17/08/12 07:35 PM
2

I would strongly lean toward nerves. First time and all, you are probably just nervous. I mean do you get into the moment or are you just making out thinking, "Come on, get hard!!!" ??
/r/seduction17/08/12 05:53 PM
5

You know as well as I that maturity has very little to do with age. This is more about how you see the world, how you treat others, etc. I'm not trying to say its exactly the same, but imagine if you had friends going around calling everyone a faggot, that guy a nigger, etc, would you accept that type of behavior in a "friend" ?
/r/seduction17/08/12 04:37 PM
1

I get mass messages from my friends about going out and stuff, and people reply all ALL THE TIME without realizing it, so be careful. It seems like certain phones reply all by default. CAREFUL! Also your messages are lame. Seriously, I was dreaming about you? These melons remind me of you? You're asking for it if any realize it's a mass message. I'll send something out like "Yo we gettin wild tonight, who's coming out?" where i'm not trying to pretend its not a mass message. It's strictly about …
/r/seduction17/08/12 04:20 PM
9

Completely agreed and try not to use whore, slut, bitch, etc unless they are REALLY being one. Throwing those words around doesn't feel like it matters but I do think that over time it can kinda throw off the way you see women and the world. Plus if other women hear you talking like that you're pretty much getting black balled. It makes your friends seem really immature, but they might not be able to handle you telling them that.
/r/seduction17/08/12 04:09 PM
1

...do you think you can tell? Statistically, a more attractive girl is probably more likely to have an std.
/r/seduction16/08/12 03:03 PM
1

I was not aware of this rabbi dick sucking practice...
/r/seduction16/08/12 03:00 PM
1

wash your genital region with soapy water after sexual relations.
/r/seduction16/08/12 02:55 PM
1

You should try to meet up with her sooner rather than later. She certainly is using you for your sexts, in that she likes the attention and the feelings you are giving her. That doesn't mean she doesn't want the real thing. Are you not getting anything out of the sexting? If you're getting something out of it then you aren't really getting "used."
/r/seduction16/08/12 02:42 PM
2

Not sure I can pull this off without smirking a bit and them thinking i'm probably/possibly joking/being sarcastic. Wondering if it might work anyway? What does seddit think about the tone needed for delivery of this?
/r/seduction10/08/12 10:00 PM
2

bars are not the place to go for a fwb type deal, daygame has way more opportunity. why do you say this, out of curiosity?
/r/seduction10/08/12 09:16 PM
3

Using your example: "Ah elephants are so cool, they can be a little flirty though, in my experience" This will cause her to ask what you mean, and then you can tell her really briefly your story about tanzania. I think if you always take whatever they say and instantly make it about yourself, that comes off really badly. Whereas if you can comment on it, and through your words (vague but interesting) cause them to want/ask you to tell them more, and you can answer with a dhv story, that looks go…
/r/seduction10/08/12 09:09 PM
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xx: hey i just saw you over there and had to come say, you look gorgeous! I love your [complement about her]. xy: thanks/thats really nice/thats sweet/oh thanks a lot! xx: You're welcome. I'm xx, whats your name? <continue conversation, being interesting and playful>
/r/seduction10/08/12 03:08 PM
1

Obviously that happens, but girls also give their numbers to people they really want to go out with again. It's all about how you do it, and yes, saying "can I have your phone number" will usually result in you being lumped in with every other guy, and not getting a follow up.
/r/seduction10/08/12 02:25 PM
1

If you get pleasure from being funny and making people laugh, I think it's fine. The key is to not come off as trying. It needs to be effortless and more for your own enjoyment than because you are trying to entertain the girl. You shouldn't force any joke because the conversation lulls or anything like that. It's hard to strike the right balance but I definitely don't think you should abandon your wit completely, by any means, just tone it down very slightly until you get the calibration right.
/r/seduction10/08/12 02:20 PM
3

Thanks for the reply. His delivery is so good that I wouldn't even call it scripted, more internalized, but I guess those are the same thing really.
/r/seduction10/08/12 12:35 AM
3

What was scripted about this?
/r/seduction09/08/12 09:32 PM
3

Well there is the classic, "Hey, do you have the time?" Then when they give you the time you immediately follow up with something contextual, or just jump straight to the line, "I don't actually care about the time, I just needed an excuse to come talk to you because you caught my interest/I think you're cute/I think you have great style" Better I think is just to make strong eye contact, smile, and say "Hey" or at least give a slight head nod. Then when you see the same person later you've plan…
/r/seduction09/08/12 08:29 PM
3

There was very little game in here, but its a fun story. What did you do to open the actual interaction and how did you end up taking her home?
/r/seduction09/08/12 08:23 PM
9

The blank text move is money. I would say just be fun at the strip club, grab some titties, but don't be immature. Strip clubs have a way of making girls really horny and competitive for your attention. You'll probably have some crazy sex afterward if you play things right.
/r/seduction09/08/12 05:07 PM
1

See that's my beef with the article. Yes, sitting around saying "I'm great and lovable" might bring up bad thoughts, but is the alternative of just having low self-esteem and doing nothing about it better? If repeating a mantra can get you out of your comfort zone, or just to do something you wouldn't normally do, it seems like a better outcome, even if it does bring up a few negative thoughts, because just getting yourself to act will create esteem reinforcement. The study is so theoretical tha…
/r/seduction09/08/12 04:16 PM
3

in regards to the world expecting me to always strive to keep their best interests at hand in whatever decision I make The world doesn't expect this. All of this is in your head. Personally, I think it's great to be caring of others, even strangers. That said, you need to care about yourself first. You have to be the most important, to yourself.
/r/seduction09/08/12 02:54 PM
1

Sounds a little over the top, but if this is congruent with your personality, go for it. I just don't want her to think you put in way too much effort for a first date. Sounds like you've known her for a while though, so perhaps it would be ok.
/r/seduction09/08/12 02:23 PM
1

Just realize she's working and maybe just being friendly to a customer. People who work retail do sometimes "flirt" with customers, even if they aren't really interested in going out with them. I would say you should stop worrying about what you will do on the date and how you will act, and just focus on getting the date first. Even if you do get her to go on a date with you, that doesn't mean you're in a relationship or that you will go on another date, so don't think about "what happens when I…
/r/seduction09/08/12 02:22 PM
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I think if you internalize the idea that you are high quality, and that you don't need to settle, you will get over this. There is nothing wrong with wanting the best for yourself. Some people might call that selfishness in certain circumstances, but I say if that is selfishness, selfishness is a good quality. That said, it's fine to practice with girls you aren't super interested in, as long as you don't lead them on, and as long as you are doing it for yourself and not because you feel bad, or…
/r/seduction09/08/12 02:11 PM
1

Um what? If you wait for the girl to make the move you will be waiting...indefinitely, most of the time. Also, having a mantra of already losing, being a loser, or having no chance, will not help your inner game at all. If anything I would say the opposite, convince yourself you've already won, you're a winner, and the girl would be lucky to get a kiss from you.
/r/seduction09/08/12 01:58 PM
2

I would say stop thinking of the friendzone. It's 98% in your head anyway. If a girl is putting her head on your shoulder and grinding against you, try to make out with her when the opportunity is good. She might be all weird about it, and then you can just laugh and call her a weirdo.
/r/seduction09/08/12 01:56 PM
1

Make some really sweet plans for that night. Try to get together next week, and like everyone said try to make it spectacular. Don't tell her your awesome plans until she asks if you're going to the party or what you're doing that weekend. If she asks specifically why you aren't going to the party tell her that xxx must be jealous and leave it at that.
/r/seduction09/08/12 01:54 PM
1

How is it obvious? No one, except OP and possibly the girl, know who the note is for. I still wouldn't have said "It can't end like that."
/r/seduction09/08/12 01:50 PM
2

I really don't think its "these days" I just think its a lot more out in the open.
/r/seduction09/08/12 01:48 PM
2

Haven't spent time in gay clubs because don't have any close gay friends, but I hear good things and think that line is great and fun. The key with your wingman strategy is making it seem natural. In your situation, your gay friend didn't even really know what was going on either, which I sort of think is important.
/r/seduction08/08/12 08:54 PM
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Uh yes I think if you can pull this off somewhat naturally it would be really powerful. It displays many good qualities for you. I also like it because it makes her feel uncomfortable for a minute, but then she realizes that SHE'S being dumb, you obviously aren't creepy becuase you aren't hitting on her, and all of a sudden she is vying for your attention instead of having her bitch shield up.
/r/seduction08/08/12 08:39 PM
1

Why are you worrying about something that hasn't happened? Until she specifically brings up relationship stuff, don't think about it, unless it's what you want. I mean really, you haven't even banged this girl yet.
/r/seduction08/08/12 07:03 PM
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1st) You weren't being a douchebag, based on your description. 2nd) Pretend that all of those thoughts in your head never happened, and try to fuck her again. She loved it, just keep telling yourself that. She's been thinking about it ever since. 3rd) Next time you are with a girl concentrate on the present.
/r/seduction08/08/12 07:00 PM
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Because it subcounciously tells the girl you aren't busy, you aren't in demand, and you're not that interesting. By not responding right away you get her thinking about what you might be doing, where are you, who are you with? Even if you are sitting at home in your boxers playing x box, let her imagine whatever she wants to imagine. It's usually better than the reality.
/r/seduction08/08/12 03:33 PM
2

So its not that you have a type really, just that these guys did not do it for you, whatever it is. I don't think of "bro's" as wearing manprees, I never see those. Thank god.
/r/seduction07/08/12 08:31 PM
2

It's great to get out of your comfort zone. Be open to new experiences, including being hit on by smooth as well as not so smooth guys. Totally legitimate question, I was just trying to understand your motivation. Why, would you say none of the guys were your type? How would you describe your type? Have you dated/hooked up with guys who were not your type?
/r/seduction07/08/12 07:56 PM
0

Your explanation for 1 and 2 has NOTHING to do with what you actually wrote up top for 1 and 2.
/r/seduction07/08/12 07:16 PM
1

I'll be careful. When I have (rarely) publicly announced my superiority, the effects have sometimes been powerful, so there may be more to it than you think. Of course, everyone fakes confidence because that is what we have all been told women are attracted to. It's hard to separate the real confident from the fakers, and it doesn't really matter if you're faking since there is really very little difference, since confidence really is just a state of mind pretty much. I'm curious why you asked y…
/r/seduction07/08/12 06:57 PM
13

Most women don't like to directly discuss future sexual relations. I don't know why, it would make things really easy, but nearly every girl I've met would be immediately uninterested in all but the most attractive of guys if they came that direct. If you like things direct you should probably just try to be the agressor in your relationships, because most guys are conditioned BY WOMEN to not act that way, because then we are called pervs, etc, and girls feel like we are assuming that they are e…
/r/seduction07/08/12 06:38 PM
0

I don't like this situation. I always end up saying either "something" or "what?" to which they reply either "anything" or "tell me a story". I usually start with a basic fairytale plot, and then have it turn really sexual and raunchy and they get pissed and hit me and then the subject changes. I don't think this is the ideal way to handle it, but I haven't figured out a better one. Maybe just saying "Nah" or "I can't, it's a secret" would be the best response.
/r/seduction07/08/12 06:35 PM
4

I don't believe in rules for this, so depends on the vibe and how I'm feeling. I won't usually "kick" a girl out unless I have something I need to do, in which case I would just phrase it that way. Likewise, if I ended up at a girl's place I would stay over if I was tired. If not, I'd leave. It shouldn't be weird or awkward either way if you stay confident.
/r/seduction07/08/12 06:31 PM
0

Not sure I agree with one and two, not because they aren't true, but because what is the point? I also don't like the use of the word slut around here.
/r/seduction07/08/12 06:29 PM
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There is definitely something about ceertain guys just sort of "hanging around" girls that they are interested in. They will try to make themselves visible, ex. walking by 6 times to go use the bathroom. They might walk by and drop something near the girl. Anything to make the girl look over at them, maybe then they will say hi. It's basically a really pussy way to try to get a girls attention. Girls are much more likely to use these techniques, but that doesn't stop guys from trying too. I fixe…
/r/seduction07/08/12 06:21 PM
5

You've identified the problem. You need to have some self-esteem in order for other people to like you. People find self-esteem in all sorts of areas, and some people just have it naturally based on no accomplishments whatsoever. Since you asked us to not give you advice on the deeper issues, I will just agree that you don't need to be successful or good looking to get girls, you just need to get out there, meet people, and be a cool confident guy. It's much easier to be that way if you have sol…
/r/seduction07/08/12 02:58 PM
1

Maybe tone it down a little bit, but overall you should completely ignore this and keep being awesome. Who cares? They are probably just a bit threatened by your confidence. You will encounter haters, and you will encounter girls who think you're an asshole, but a little part of them almost certainly likes it. The worst thing you could do is to hear this from your friends and start questioning yourself and acting differently to try to not seem too confident/cocky.
/r/seduction07/08/12 02:50 PM
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I think you left like a champ, not a chump. Sure, you could have taken it further, but the bottom line is that you talked to random girls, broke their shell, and got them interested. In the matter of 1 minute. Keep doing it, and just take it a little further. Also, NEVER worry about "pushing it" with BS answers. BS answers are my bread and butter and they work incredibly well. You are in control.
/r/seduction06/08/12 09:36 PM
0

If you don't believe that some women do think that way and will make decisions based on it, you need to get your head evaluated. edit- I'm not saying those are women I like.
/r/seduction06/08/12 09:23 PM
2

Cool, so you've taken a laid back friendly approach, which is great, and sounds like she isn't totally passive which is also great. Just hit her up however you have been, and say, "Hey i'm leaving tomorrow, do you want to hang out?" or chill, or kick it. See what she says. I would just be like "come meet me at the hotel and we'll go somewhere from here," since she has already been there. Perhaps just bring her to your room and hookup if you think she's into you, otherwise go for a walk from ther…
/r/seduction06/08/12 09:19 PM
2

I'm having a hard time imagining the dynamic, so tell me, how did you set up the first 'date'?
/r/seduction06/08/12 08:41 PM
1

If you get the feeling she's being genuine, I would try to say, "I hear you, relationships can be tough. I'd like to hang out with you more, but honestly, I'm here to pick up chicks (smile), so give me your number and we'll get a drink when I'm just chillin too." Then if you feel like having a friend to go out with you can try to get her out. Maybe she introduces you to people. No matter what, going out with girls is always good because it shows you have some social skills.
/r/seduction06/08/12 08:30 PM
2

Contrary to what they are saying, I think escalating can come off as needy, if you do it incorrectly. Troubleshooting time: I generally make the sure the woman knows where I'm coming from, that I'm attracted to her and don't just want to be her friend. How do you do this? Are you using words?
/r/seduction06/08/12 08:18 PM
2

You've never had a one night stand? Or made out with a stranger? That's fine if true, you just would be the exception rather than the norm, at least of people who regularly socialize. I'm not denying that some peope recognize they are being "gamed" and go for it anyway, because, well, that's always happening. I just think you have this notion in your mind that if we come onto this forum to discuss this subject, then everything we do must be scripted, planned, creepy. I just don't think that is t…
/r/seduction06/08/12 08:08 PM
2

If she doesn't tell you in advance and when you meet she has a friend or 3 with her, I would just play it cool. Pretend she brought them there so she could show off how cool you are. Just keep being awesome and see where things go. Don't be afraid to be a man in front of her friends and kino her, maybe kino them too if that is your personality. Maybe flirt with her friends a little. A bit of jealousy/competition never hurts in these scenarios. If she tells you or asks you in advance about bringi…
/r/seduction06/08/12 07:57 PM
1

Well I wouldn't recommend continuing "the chase" unless you actually have interest (at least in banging her), so as to not waste her time. If you decide to continue, stop the text flirting and tell her to come out with you. Make moves in person.
/r/seduction06/08/12 07:32 PM
2

I think you should just ask her to hang out again. Dinner can be tough, so I would do something a little more fun, like go somewhere you can walk around. It can help take the pressure off the situation a little, since you won't be looking directly at each other talking all night. Maybe (even though it's good to lead) you should ask her to show you something cool, since she lives there. When you do hang out, you just need to ask her something, and when she's telling you the answer look into her e…
/r/seduction06/08/12 07:30 PM
1

Ya, screw that dickhead.
/r/seduction06/08/12 07:27 PM
-1

Are you female? Of course you don't think these "techniques" work, because when you read them in your head you're already thinking of a "creeper" dude using a technique. Realize you have probably had dozens of these "techniques" used on you successfully and you thought "wow this is so magical, this is so serendipitous" etc.
/r/seduction06/08/12 07:22 PM
0

I could try, but I really don't think that's my specialty. I think a good place for you to start on that mindset is: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ufzvf/planting_1000_seeds_a_bit_long_i_know/
/r/seduction06/08/12 06:12 PM
0

I typed out a long response detailing how I get to this kind of stuff, but it is so specific to your individual style of game. The bottom line is don't think about it. If she's a target you should be escalating quickly and aggressively enough that she will tell you she has one, if it matters to her. If you have a slower friendlier 'get to know ya' type of game just ask, "So are you single?" or alternatively, "Where are your boyfriends tonight?"
/r/seduction06/08/12 05:20 PM
3

I feel that that sends off some crazy vibes; like if she was your girlfriend you would never let her leave the house.
/r/seduction06/08/12 05:08 PM
1

Mentioning the boyfriend at that point is more of a shit test for you. She wants to see that it doesn't throw you off, that you don't care if she has a boyfriend, because she is talking to you now. Sounds like you passed.
/r/seduction06/08/12 05:06 PM
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There is definitely something about "beta" guys just sort of "hanging around" girls that they are interested in. They will try to make themselves visible, ex. walking by 6 times to go use the bathroom. They might walk by and drop something near the girl. Anything to make the girl look over at them, maybe then they will say hi. It's basically a really pussy way to try to get a girls attention. Girls are much more likely to use these techniques, but that doesn't stop guys from trying too.
/r/seduction06/08/12 05:04 PM
2

When you have an awesome date, one on one, all night, and you end up back outside the house, you DO NOT go for a cheek kiss. I'm sorry but you have to be more aggressive than that. Especially if she then "gave" you a peck. I would guess that is why she is not responding now, although we don't know what you said.
/r/seduction06/08/12 02:18 PM
2

I agree, and I think we are in agreement that you can learn outside of the field, but that the field is essential.
/r/seduction31/07/12 04:39 PM
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the only way to learn is to go out there and try it What is the purpose of this subreddit then?
/r/seduction31/07/12 04:14 PM
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Not sure how accusing you of being a player is racist... That said, every time I've been accused of being a player it's because the girl is interested. Girls are attracted to high quality guys, who of course attract many girls, so its only natural you would be "a player" if you have skills with attracting women. When I say, "You like it" or "ya, why do you like it so much?" they eat it the fuck up. If I got all reactive and angry, or defensive, that would be a fail. Cultural differences I guess …
/r/seduction31/07/12 04:11 PM
1

I also have a unique name shared with a celebrity. When they say "O, like xxx" I say, "Yes exactly" or, "Yes, aren't you original". Then again, when people don't understand my name, sometimes I say myself, "Ya, like xxx." And then that usually turns into a joke. It really isn't a big deal, and having a unique name is definitely a good thing.
/r/seduction31/07/12 03:58 PM
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I just don't think it's always that well defined. Like are you saying if I open a set, for the rest of the night, all girls in that set are dibbed by me? What if I open a set with no plan, or no specific target (this is the norm for me)? What if I open a set thinking I'm targetting girl A, but girl B ends up seeming much cooler once we get to talking? just to be clear, I DEFINITELY agree that we don't need to be tripping over each other fighting for one girl, because that hurts us both (a beauti…
/r/seduction30/07/12 10:00 PM
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I'm confused. What happens if one girl is the target of both guys? Who has to choose someone else? Seriously is one person the alpha and one the wing? He sucks, she sucks, move on from both Why can't they both be awesome? Just curb your jealousy issues.
/r/seduction30/07/12 05:40 PM
1

It sounds like you were both fighting over the same girl, and he won. Why do you have more of a right to the "hotter one" than him? He was probably evasive about it because he knew you would be a pussy and not want him to get with the hot one because of your previous jealousy/possessiveness.
/r/seduction30/07/12 05:39 PM
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I'm going to disagree based on actual experience. You may be right in most cases, but this is not a be all end all rule.
/r/seduction03/07/12 07:30 PM
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you can bet I'll be moving along, after I fuck her, if she's hot.
/r/seduction02/07/12 08:42 PM
1

I hate to have to say this, but its not just your female friends. Be careful listening to advice from your male friends to. In fact, just take all advice with a grain of salt. First of all, no advice is perfect/going to work every time. Overanalyzing things and getting too many points of view can really cause you to lose your confidence and second guess yourself. And finally, even your best friends might be a little jealous and either subconsciously or not, give you bad advice.
/r/seduction02/07/12 08:28 PM
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Eye magic is code for strong sexual eye contact, which works fucking wonders. Don't be so quick to come up with excuses for yourself/him.
/r/seduction02/07/12 08:19 PM
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respec
/r/seduction29/06/12 05:11 PM
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Yes, this forum is about having sex with girls. We don't consider girls who have sex with guys to automatically be sluts. Slut is a perjorative term. You can discuss a girl who has sex without calling her a slut, or thinking of her as a slut. It's a very negative way of thinking, to label every girl who sleeps with guys (other than you) as a slut. I agree that text is good in some cases, but the eventual goal is still to meet up in person, so you need to practice real life social skills to. When…
/r/seduction29/06/12 04:55 PM
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That's your ideal. Why are you placing your ideal onto the OP? Have you ever actually been to a bar? I want to reiterate that throwing around the word slut in here is frowned upon.
/r/seduction29/06/12 04:48 PM
1

haha I think he meant "Blank art" like "modern art"
/r/seduction29/06/12 04:46 PM
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Be a fun guy. Get her to play beer pong with you, that way she won't be running off. You can't make someone want to be around you, she has to want to because of your awesomeness, so just be awesome all the time and things will follow. Most importantly, don't worry, and don't be that jealous guy that comes in all over-protective when a guy tries to talk to her. It's a party, you both should be socializing. It seems really unnecessary and needy that you "tried to make clear beforehand that she's c…
/r/seduction29/06/12 04:42 PM
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Really man? Girls who go out for a drink are automatically sluts? First of all, we don't need to be slut shaming, because i'm pretty sure we are all trying to get laid here. Second, that is completely fucking ridiculous.
/r/seduction29/06/12 04:37 PM
1

Win some lose some. Try to keep your composure.
/r/seduction29/06/12 01:41 PM
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I would say yes. I've had that experience where I'm like "Holy shit, that was like a firehose"
/r/seduction26/06/12 09:06 PM
1

Dude, 18. That flies in every state in the union.
/r/seduction26/06/12 06:08 PM
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Rhode Island, get at me
/r/seduction25/06/12 03:01 PM
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Just keep in mind that American average is just short of obese, comfortably overweight. Also, why would you ever want to be average? Don't you want to be the best you can be? I'm not saying that means six pack skinny, but you should feel good about yourself. If you feel good about yourself at your weight right now and are confident then that's fine, but I do believe improving one's shape improves one's life, all else being equal.
/r/seduction22/06/12 08:40 PM
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Exactly, forced to face your fears, sink or swim, etc. All of these things force you to interact with people or fail, force you to treat women as people, and make you do it again and again and again. You can't help notice patterns and learn new things given that type of set up.
/r/seduction22/06/12 08:31 PM
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Ya you really need to get down to about 185, for your height to look "athletic" or in "good shape". I always thought I looked pretty good at about 220, but now that i'm down around 200 (i'm slightly taller) I notice a lot more girls checking me out, getting nervous around me, etc. I expect it to only increase as I lose more weight.
/r/seduction22/06/12 08:01 PM
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Yes, the bunker buster is a great move. This stuff does need to be a bit coordinated, and your wing needs to be on the same (highly skilled) level as you, but I agree, I haven't seen anyone break down ideal wing game like this, especially with specific techniques. Also, i'm already thinking of situations to use that "This is a conversation about boys" line. Ha.
/r/seduction22/06/12 08:00 PM
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Or when you get a tremendous amount of experience in a short amount of time, like this type of job give you. Canvassing, handing out flyers, anything promotional are all great jobs to help with AA and just general people/social skills.
/r/seduction22/06/12 07:55 PM
3

Take a cue from David D'angelo if you can access any of his material, even just his old basic e-book. Don't answer questions. When someone asks you what you do, respond (to blatantly steal from him) that you're an assmodel. When they laugh and say, "no really, what do you do?" you say, "Ok ok, you got me, I'm actually a retired assmodel. The cutoff is 23 and a half, now i'm behind the camera shooting asses all day." The idea is you say something extremely playful, and don't give in. Don't give t…
/r/seduction21/06/12 08:51 PM
2

I'd say something like, "I love bad ideas" and leave it at that, although I think ultimately, chet_hunter's advice is correct.
/r/seduction21/06/12 08:45 PM
2

I have found that drinking soda makes me sweat a lot more. Getting in good shape makes you sweat less. The number one thing is for your to embrace that you are a man, and sweating is normal when you are physically exerting yourself, in a hot situation, or in a tense situation. Learning to control your nerves/tenseness is all about experience and practice.
/r/seduction21/06/12 02:07 PM
1

Wow. You're saying you rub anti-perspirant all over your back? And suggesting the face? I bet that would cause a bad breakout.
/r/seduction21/06/12 02:05 PM
1

I would say it doesn't matter how much you are texting, it is almost surely too much.
/r/seduction21/06/12 12:45 PM
1

I hope you know how to handle the situation now...
/r/seduction20/06/12 08:57 PM
2

What does straight up mean? Just say, "Hey, lets go back to my house and fuck." Before you comment any more in this subreddit just realize that women, like men, are different from one another and respond to different things. Just because you think that would be your reaction doesn't mean you should assume every other girl will react the same way. Also, I've seen a lot of women say that they would react one way to something and then they react very differently when it actually happens. Its kind o…
/r/seduction19/06/12 07:03 PM
2

Smoking is the easiest place to start a conversation with a stranger. You're both standing there killing time. Say something stupid like "Nice day today" or "did you have a good weekend?" Follow up with, "I don't think we've ever actually met" and put out your hand. You could also open with, "I always see you around, what do you do here anyway?" that one works pretty well. You're going to have to start somewhere and once the conversation is flowing, or after you've established rapport, you can b…
/r/seduction19/06/12 06:47 PM
1

Double bribe!
/r/seduction19/06/12 06:35 PM
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Are you doing these things to turn her on more, and they are working? If they were working I would think things would turn to sex quickly. Do you think you might be doing them, and then hesitating to see if they work or something? I've found the things you mentioned are great, but it should be one then the other then the other then NAKED then sex. Like they get caught up in the feeling of you rubbing their lower back and kissing their neck, and before they realize it they're on their back. Don't…
/r/seduction12/06/12 07:37 PM
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She's obviously really sensitive, probably not that cool of a girl. I would say you're screwed here or it will take way too much effort, but I think your best bet is to invite her out to something, pretend like the joke never happened. If that doesn't work you can try to say something about the joke, theres nothing to lose.
/r/seduction12/06/12 07:23 PM
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So I got talking to this HB8 in the usual way and secluded her from all her male friends This is the part I want you to talk about, not your gin and tonic! I do think this is a good technique if you can do it in a fun no pressure way, because it shows you are extremely different from most guys, are playful, and definitely aren't intimidated by her.
/r/seduction12/06/12 07:11 PM
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Good thing they weren't trying to pick you up
/r/seduction12/06/12 01:44 PM
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Whenever you want. I think you could get a lot of mileage out of reading the sidebar --->
/r/seduction11/06/12 07:47 PM
1

By your side, holding your drink, animating the hilarious and entertaining story you're telling, or around a girl's waist. Keep them out of your pockets as much as you can. It's ok for your hands to be near stuff, especially girls.
/r/seduction11/06/12 07:29 PM
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The reception isn't as good, but I see no reason you can't do this in NYC. Obviously at night it becomes harder but there is no reason you cannot give a friendly hello. Use your best judgement to avoid being stabbed, but otherwise don't give a fuck.
/r/seduction11/06/12 05:57 PM
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Be the best person you can, not the best manipulator.
/r/seduction08/06/12 08:44 PM
2

Just try to walk around or stand around with your hands at your sides. Use them when you talk, a little bit. If you practice this and are mindful of it, in time, it doesn't feel weird anymore. Let me just say though that everyone, absolutely everyone, feels this way, I believe. If you ever look around the room you will notice 80% or more of guys have at least one hand in their pocket, or something other than just a natural relaxed pose.
/r/seduction08/06/12 08:19 PM
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Dude, she's gaming you, realize it. Look, she got you all jealous and then you went and banged her, plan worked perfectly. Now you're still thinking about it. Who cares if she is talking to some people at the bar? Its just socializing, or at least I'm sure thats what you would say if she got mad about you doing the same thing. Roll with it, like you did. Maybe just try to get out of your head a little bit. Maybe work on anger management a little bit. Try to be non-reactive.
/r/seduction06/06/12 06:28 PM
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Threads
/r/seduction06/06/12 03:26 PM
10

Great lines, may steal them next time I draw a blank in the grocery store and there are no mellons to comment on.
/r/seduction04/06/12 05:55 PM
1

The clothes should fit, meaning they are just slightly big enough to fit over your body, not all gappy and lose in certain places and too tight in other places. They should fit consistently throughout the garment. They should show off the shape of your body, not the shape of the patterns that were used to make them, if that makes sense.
/r/seduction30/05/12 06:50 PM
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I have seen this pattern of behavior on more than one occassion. If a girl mentions that she gets along way better with guys, or anything like that, I take that as a huge red flag and proceed with caution.
/r/seduction30/05/12 12:53 PM
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Personally, I think if you didn't feel good when things go well and a little badly when things go badly, life would be complete shit. Do you want to be a completely emotionless, non caring, non reactive person? I agree, it might actually help you with the ladies, but whats the point if there are no ups and downs and you can't actually appreciate any of your success? Live.
/r/seduction29/05/12 03:32 PM
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You need to take a mindset that you are awesome and she's going to be lucky to get to spend time one on one with you. Regardless of whoever else is in her life, the time she spends with you is a gift you are giving her, not the other way around. Maybe she is just really friendly, but most girls I've interacted with, if I texted them after our first "date," just to tell them how fun it was, or something, they will not respond at all. That probably says more about those girls than your friend, but…
/r/seduction25/05/12 03:34 PM
1

I hate those awkward vague goodbyes. I think that usually happens because the girl is hoping you are going to try to get her to come with you. Then again, good to not be reactive and stick to your plan.
/r/seduction25/05/12 03:17 PM
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It sounds like she's definitely interested in you, so that's good. You know what to do. Don't text her. When you meet up for the show find a way to kino her, eventually, during a high point, kiss her.
/r/seduction25/05/12 03:09 PM
1

Question, when your daughter is no longer being taught by that teacher, would you consider going back for a parent teacher conference?
/r/seduction24/05/12 06:31 PM
4

Wow. I think your one quick thing is fucking genius and really believe that may help me in the future. Great post!
/r/seduction24/05/12 03:07 PM
1

I read the entire post the first time and now again, am I missing something? I think your post is good, I just don't like the part about: I'm not giving out any more examples this time, because I'm sick of people stealing my shit and not giving credit or thanks.
/r/seduction23/05/12 11:28 PM
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I don't know what you are talking about, I was merely stating that I don't like the mindset of "I'm not going to share my information/knowledge because someone didn't say thanks or give me credit." That is all. Maybe I'm just not understanding your post or maybe I misunderstood VmikeL's post.
/r/seduction23/05/12 11:27 PM
2

That's what they refer to as triangle gazing, right?
/r/seduction23/05/12 07:32 PM
4

Am I supposed to let a girl know that, "VMikeL, from the internet, came up with that pickup line I just used on you" ? Come on, that attitude is just lame.
/r/seduction23/05/12 07:27 PM
3

She's supposed to just offer, right? You don't say, "Now its your turn to take me out," right?
/r/seduction23/05/12 02:36 PM
1

Its ok to meet a girl, talk for a while, and decide you aren't interested. I think when you meet the right girl you will not have these thoughts. Then again, if, in your mind, you do want to bang random chicks, then I would say it is a motivational or possibly depression problem.
/r/seduction22/05/12 07:48 PM
3

“Hi (smile) you look like you’re really punishing that machine. Give it a break!" Do you expect that to lead to a conversation? Strange example to give.
/r/seduction22/05/12 03:51 PM
1

If your mutual friend asked you to coffee and you weren't thinking about all of this other stuff, would you go?
/r/seduction21/05/12 03:09 PM
1

Wow that was a fucking book. Maybe you should become an alcoholic writer
/r/seduction19/05/12 02:27 PM
3

...as far as I have seen, every subreddit is this way. The graphic does not link to the subreddit, but the text of the subreddit title does. edit - in fact, I just checked the two subreddits you mentioned and they are the same. Not sure how you made up what you said above, but go check it out. in atheism, the graphic links to reddit.com, but the big "r/atheism" links to the subreddit. Same with technology.
/r/seduction18/05/12 08:32 PM
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As long as you are in control of the design decisions, I have utmost faith that they will be carried out in style.
/r/seduction18/05/12 08:23 PM
2

Click on the word "Seduction", not the seddit logo.
/r/seduction18/05/12 08:15 PM
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I personally am not crazy about a wildly different colors/theme. Subtle changes, fine, but don't go all myspace on me. Please.
/r/seduction18/05/12 07:52 PM
1

I hate these situations. I would say where you went wrong was, when you are making out like crazy in the car, not taking her back to one of your places, busting through any LMR, and giving her the best sex shes had in a long time. Probably seriously pulling back after that and making her chase you a little bit. Again, tough situation to be in, but I think you've shown your hand and its time to move on. Don't say anything to her because then you will seem reactive, just move on. If you do hang ou…
/r/seduction18/05/12 07:24 PM
2

Relax, go have fun, she likes you. I wouldn't escalate in front of the brother, at least not much. Once he's to bed, it's on. As far as more than friends, when things feel really good, just tell her.
/r/seduction18/05/12 06:07 PM
2

If anything it will help. Just be your awesome self all of the time.
/r/seduction18/05/12 03:59 PM
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Its completely different from college. Take advantage of college, but realize that your party and game life doesn't end with graduation, it just matures.
/r/seduction18/05/12 01:14 PM
8

I actually like your first two sentences. After that, no.
/r/seduction18/05/12 01:07 PM
3

Very powerful stuff here, be careful using this technique.
/r/seduction18/05/12 01:03 PM
1

This is sorta how modern club dancing works. You don't need to be so aggressive about it, you can be a bit more smooth, but really, when you are in a loud club, everything needs to be non verbal. What better way to show a girl you want to be closer to her than grabbing her and dancing? I'm sure if any of those girls walked away, or pushed the guy away, or whatever, there probably wouldn't be an issue, and if there was I think a lot of people would jump in to help a girl in that situation. What i…
/r/seduction18/05/12 12:53 PM
2

Without being too weird and deep about it or anything, it is also really good to ask questions about emotions & feelings.
/r/seduction17/05/12 09:21 PM
2

Always leave them wanting more... For real though I think he was just messing with them, kidding around.
/r/seduction17/05/12 07:38 PM
0

You don't just slide your hand to her pussy and then when she pushes it away say "you don't want to?" That is not smooth at all, and makes the girl feel like a bit of an object. You need to read some shit about LMR and also getting a girl really turned on. Maybe shes antisexual, but if you handle the making out and cuddling right, I believe she should be ripping your clothes off.
/r/seduction17/05/12 06:47 PM
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that you aren't a loser
/r/seduction17/05/12 03:49 PM
1

The sidebar.
/r/seduction17/05/12 01:50 PM
1

Nice work, don't leave home without the dog. I would say though, do not expect that. Ever. again.
/r/seduction16/05/12 09:04 PM
1

Slow play, or alternatively, say "Listen, I'm really busy during the day and don't have much time to check my phone, but if you want to catch up meet me at xx lounge on friday at 9 for a drink and some stimulating conversation, in person"
/r/seduction16/05/12 08:55 PM
2

Completely balls out, and awesome. Not one girl was not smiling and laughing from this guy's crazy ballsy lines.
/r/seduction16/05/12 06:47 PM
1

Why not start by getting some personal talk? You should have stopped her on the street and said, "Are you that girl who was trying to sell me cell phones the other day?" and tried to start a conversation. Is there any way I could ask her out? Go back to the store and blurt out, "Will you go out with me?" I wouldn't expect that to work though. Instead, read the sidebar --->
/r/seduction16/05/12 03:26 PM
3

Why aren't we putting this out in a post so everyone can see and learn? I have a great FR that teaches a lot, but I will only give it through PM.
/r/seduction16/05/12 02:09 PM
1

unless I'm self-employed or I creat a business I'm too clueless lazy You definitely should not start a business or ever think about being self employed if you consider yourself lazy and clueless and don't instead consider how you can change that.
/r/seduction16/05/12 01:50 PM
2

Really? Even after the homeless guy pointed to your friend hiding in the bushes filming?
/r/seduction16/05/12 12:43 PM
3

I would recommend you ignore it and just carry on, however; I have had a few experiences like this, where I'm in a group and one of the people is just kind of distant or not very nice. Later, when we were alone for a few seconds, I said, "Are you always this rude to people you just met?" with a sly smile. She immediately changed her whole tune and we were making out within a minute. Sometimes it is good to call people out on their shit, NOT in a way that makes you seem like it upsets you or make…
/r/seduction15/05/12 06:51 PM
3

Seems like it will work as a good screen for what you're looking for. Might be a bit hit or miss, but I do think you'll get some reactions from some silly girls.
/r/seduction15/05/12 12:54 PM
1

Well I think you've done a good job of establishing yourself as someone who is fun, can roll with the punches, and not easily intimidated. There was nothing in the post about how the date ended, so I am wondering how making out all night turned into you not taking her home with you. I, personally, am not fond of girls i'm with giving their numbers out to other people, even given the circumstances, especially while they are with me, for christ's sake, but there is really nothing you can do that w…
/r/seduction14/05/12 08:35 PM
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Good luck. Just keep in mind that usually someone is chasing and someone is being chased, and the person being chased always has more power. I'm not saying it won't work for you, but sometimes when things change like this is can backfire and one or more can lose their attraction. The most important thing in all of this stuff is to discover and then remain true to yourself. I wish you luck with your relationship.
/r/seduction14/05/12 04:56 PM
0

How did I not read the post? You said that if you go straight to the shoulder as first contact you are a rapist or a purse snatcher. I disagreed and said that I do it all the time. You can downvote me for a different opinion/worldview, but that is quite dickish. Have a great day
/r/seduction14/05/12 04:34 PM
1

I did that once. I tried to make plans and the person said, "I can't, I'm out of town this weekend doing blah blah blah." so I said, "That's awesome! Get in touch when you're back in town so we can do <exciting thing>" Never heard from her, until I decided to text her randomly a few weeks later. She was still down, just not interested in taking the initiative, apparently. Now I try to keep the power in my hands, and not signal anything that might make it seem like I am scared to be the decision/…
/r/seduction14/05/12 03:47 PM
1

So don't talk much, and don't be present much? Sounds like a pretty tough way to find a relationship.
/r/seduction14/05/12 03:34 PM
1

bullshit. I touch people on the upper arm/shoulder all the time. People I don't know and haven't said one word to. If i'm talking to someone and they say something dumb, or a joke thats kind of lame, I'll touch them there and say "Good one, Johnny". Using the back of your hand for the touch is less intrusive than the inside or fingertips/palm of the hand.
/r/seduction14/05/12 03:34 PM
1

On the cockblock, assuming you are pretty friendly with her, she is either an attention whore or wants you for herself. If you aren't interested in that, I would generally just call her out. "I don't know why you are insisting on cockblocking me, but i'm trying to meet some lovely ladies tonight and I suggest you stay out of the way." I've actually found that girls respond well to the criticisms of cockblocking, they know what it is and maybe even get a little excited when you call it by that na…
/r/seduction14/05/12 03:29 PM
1

You can't always do that thought. You say, "Hey a couple of us are heading out to this crazy party in an hour, come by and pregame with us." and she says, "I can't, I have plans tonight!" It would seem a little strange to me to say "Well what about tomorrow, do you want to go ride go carts?" Like you should just be focused on the thing you are about to do that night and not thinking "When can I see this girl?"
/r/seduction14/05/12 03:21 PM
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"Hi" I normally don't go out of my way to talk to anyone at the gym, but if there was a 9 who I had the above interactions with, I would definitely talk to her. I think at the gym you should keep it very friendly, but try to get together outside.
/r/seduction14/05/12 03:07 PM
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If you're in a relationship, you should know if this will piss them off or not. It has to be done well, casually, and not like a controlling douche trying to impress her.
/r/seduction14/05/12 03:04 PM
1

Yes definitely talk to her. Girl friends, especially ones that secretly want you, can be very powerful as long as they don't get out of line (like this one is).
/r/seduction14/05/12 02:01 PM
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Pretending anything dumb. If she jokingly says, "O you poor baby!" you say, "Wahh, baby need titty milk".
/r/seduction14/05/12 01:55 PM
2

I just want to say you are not fat. You might be slightly overweight for your height, which you can "fix" by eating a little better and working out. You're a big guy, but you aren't fat. There is nothing wrong with being big, in fact many women like that you can comfort them, protect them, and grab things off the shelf for them. Plus stand up 69.
/r/seduction14/05/12 01:49 PM
1

Ah it was just a joke, friend. Maybe the good sex has nothing to do with age but just chemistry, etc.
/r/seduction10/05/12 04:15 PM
6

Middle school - no.
/r/seduction10/05/12 04:02 PM
4

for you.
/r/seduction10/05/12 03:49 PM
1

What logic? The logic that the lack of evidence that something works doesn't mean that it doesn't work? That seems pretty logical to me.
/r/seduction08/05/12 09:15 PM
1

I did, but it doesn't matter what you said after, because up top you said, quite matter of factly, that people who are failing miserably at something look lame while practicing. I'm just disagreeing with you in that regard. Don't take it as a personal attack. You're still great.
/r/seduction08/05/12 08:56 PM
1

No attempt to take it to the next level? Do you get good response rate when following up for a date? Doesn't seem like much attraction built, although I guess if you talk for 20 minutes thats a lot of time to sit there with a stranger if you aren't showing them a good time.
/r/seduction08/05/12 08:34 PM
1

Stupid White Boy dancing is retarded and anti game. Remember to stay game, look alpha Can you teach us white boys?
/r/seduction08/05/12 08:26 PM
1

I actually don't think either of those things look lame, because they show that someone is dedicated, and not afraid to fail.
/r/seduction08/05/12 08:25 PM
1

I'm reading a lot of excuses. If you want this so bad then get out there and start making some baby steps. Don't sit on the couch for one whole day. Don't sit on the computer for one whole day. If that means you just go and walk the streets, ok. Try to find a way to interact with some people. Do that a lot until its no big deal, and you are on your way.
/r/seduction08/05/12 07:58 PM
1

Calling a girl man or dude can definitely work. Just because something is unconventional or strange to you doesn't mean it won't or can't work. Just because no one has written a book or a post on here about it doesn't mean it won't or can't work.
/r/seduction08/05/12 07:39 PM
2

Hard to do when it goes so well, but you are so right.
/r/seduction08/05/12 07:14 PM
2

I'm curious why you didn't call her, when she said "call me". It's not unusual for someone to give their number and say, "Text me" so I would think a girl who says call me has a preference for that, because I know some girls prefer the old fashioned, direct way.
/r/seduction08/05/12 07:12 PM
1

no.
/r/seduction08/05/12 07:10 PM
1

Oneitis, bad. Gym everyday for 3 months Did you do this just for her, or was it for you? Its hard but you need to stop giving a fuck about this one particular girl. That doesn't mean you need to completely ignore her and be a dick to her, but you need to stop thinking of her as the be all end all whatever. Once you do that the dynamic will probably change.
/r/seduction20/04/12 05:20 PM
1

are you gay is a really interesting one, can you elaborate on why you put it at the top? Do you think girls use this as a way of like "well if he isn't gay he'll have to prove it by making an aggressive move on me" type of thing?
/r/seduction20/04/12 03:36 PM
1

That's why gettin into seduction can be a bit damaging because now you're overanalyzing instead of just being in the moment.
/r/seduction16/04/12 11:54 PM
1

You need to find social outlets that put you into contact with other people, some of whom may be the opposite sex and around your age. Whether this means walking around and starting conversations with random people, or joining some groups and clubs and stuff, you cannot get laid if you don't meet or already know any women. There are network effects that play a huge role in this game. The more women you know, the more women are in your "potential mate" pool as friends of friends, or even friends …
/r/seduction16/04/12 09:22 PM
1

Why do you say it wasn't a date? Going 1 on 1 to lunch and then going and hanging out in a park together and talking sounds like a date to me. Its an abstract thing, fluid. You can turn a hang out into a date, or a date into a hang out by playing your cards right/wrong.
/r/seduction16/04/12 09:12 PM
5

Serious question, drop some knowledge on hottub panty droppin game. I have one and have never successfully used it to bring a girl home, its almost like the mere mention of hottub actually hurts my game. I attribute it to the show "Blind Date," which always ends with a hottub party.
/r/seduction16/04/12 08:43 PM
1

Totally not true. It all depends how good of an actor you are and how good the girl is at picking up on body language and other subcomm. And no, faking it well does not mean you truly have it.
/r/seduction29/09/11 06:56 PM
1

You can never know someone 100% and, while you should be confident about it, you should realize that no relationship is magical and happy all of the time. Notice that in his three stories none of the relationships are good? Be careful "rushing" into marriage and babymaking. To expand a bit on the rushing aspect, many people (read: everyone) believes that their first (or first few) relationships are the be-all end-all and nothing can ever be better. When you hear about people marrying really youn…
/r/seduction29/09/11 06:40 PM
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If you want to persue her and you dont think its too soon, why don't you invite her to one of the events you are attending this week?
/r/seduction27/09/11 04:02 PM
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That's why you set a day in the invitation message. No. Don't just pick a night on your own and go, unless that is something you want to do. Sometimes you fuck something up, and its better to not think "how can I fix this," instead you should think "how can I avoid this issue in the future." The advise to be the leader/planmaker, be direct, and tell her what the two of you are going to do instead of asking, are the lessons to be taken from this experience.
/r/seduction26/09/11 07:11 PM
1

She could have said that for many reasons, as is usually the case with things that women (or anyone) says. -she might be uninterested in dating at all -she might be uninterested in starting a serious relationship -she might have gotten the feeling you want a serious relationship, and doesn't want that -she might just be messing with you, seeing how you will react -she might have found herself getting feelings for you, but know she is not ready for anything serious As you can see, there are a lot…
/r/seduction26/09/11 06:28 PM
1

Thanks for the reply, good stuff. As far as if she's not having it, when will you follow up with some playful banter? I try to send a message and forget about it, but it seems impossible for me to actually forget, and faking it until you make it doens't work so great with forgetting.
/r/seduction26/09/11 03:26 PM
2

I find your interpretation very interesting. I think of it like if I was thinking of a girl who I didn't want to say was a 7, shes hotter than that, but if I go to call her an 8 i'd feel like i'm exagerrating, so 7.5 fits nicely. If he was using the extra .5 to build up his super ego why not just say she was an 8? Also lets be real, the point system conveys almost no information. It's not a consistent scale from person to person, day to day. People even say that how a girl is dressed or made up …
/r/seduction26/09/11 03:24 PM
1

Ya, you do come across as a huge douche. He can't be happy about getting laid? Just because it happens to you all the time doesn't mean you need to bring him down, who fucking cares what happens to you this isn't about you.
/r/seduction26/09/11 02:55 PM
1

Wait..why? Isn't using any numbers at all shallow? How is it narcissistic?
/r/seduction26/09/11 02:52 PM
5

Congratulations on saying fuck it and grabbing your sac. Now don't get oneitis and keep practicing the game, even if you truly are interested in persuing something with this girl.
/r/seduction26/09/11 02:33 PM
1

Wow I really don't think you should be so worried about the people around you. MASSIVE DLV
/r/seduction26/09/11 02:29 PM
1

Nice work. My only question is about your day2 text. Had you talked about hanging out at all the night before? When she said her roommate was in, was it sorta like "ok, well ill be seeing you tomorrow, then"? I know its good to assume attraction/interest, but that text just seems pretty aggressive without any previous set up to hang out. Obviously it worked, so its not an issue. I just know after the 2-3 hours of waiting i'd be thinking, "Damnit I screwed that up by being to presumptuous". Thank…
/r/seduction26/09/11 02:17 PM
1

but decided to tell them you were a virgin anyway? Is that normal conversation topic?
/r/seduction26/09/11 02:07 PM
5

Good advice, but please don't call this person you don't know a stupid bitch. That's very negative and gives a bad name to seduction. Plus you don't know anything about her other than what you've been told by some guy on an internet forum.
/r/seduction23/09/11 01:38 PM
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This is WAY to calculated. If you wanna fuck a married woman at least have it happen after a drunken night at a bar. You say you're not used to expending this much effort, I'd say stop now. This type of post really does hurt the seduction community, as anyone who comes in here and sees this will immediately leave this subreddit and decide we are all scumbags. Sorry, but its just you.
/r/seduction23/09/11 01:31 PM
2

Just want to say that this is not always the case...you can end up with a big mess and its happened to me on more than one occassion.
/r/seduction21/09/11 01:52 PM
2

I'm totally stealing that line...anytime i'm eating anything, don't even care if its finger food. Love it. I might add a "Cause I can't have you embarassing me" onto the end
/r/seduction15/09/11 08:21 PM
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I like your advice here a lot, but "Let's hang out again sometime. My brother bailed on [some cheap event] for next Thursday, want to go?" just seems weird. I think it would be better to leave the first sentence off
/r/seduction15/09/11 08:07 PM
3

You're going to get the best advice if you give us a full transcript of one of these situations. The subtlety can be important.
/r/seduction15/09/11 08:05 PM
2

You tell a girl you are crazy about her, think about her every night, can't sleep without her, hell can't even live without her. She will smile and say you're so sweet, but in that moment, deep inside of her mind she will lose all sexual attraction for you.
/r/seduction15/09/11 06:32 PM
1

You're the one making this arbitrary line of you being skinny and everyone else being acceptable. Dude you're fine. Some girls dig really skinny guys and some girls like guys with some meat. My extremely skinny friend (looks like a heroin addict) pulls more tail than anyone else I know.
/r/seduction13/09/11 05:37 PM
1

Because some girls will be intimidated by you or think you will leave them for a hotter girl. But really its just an excuse for failure in other areas that actually matter.
/r/seduction13/09/11 05:35 PM
5

"Why do girls always say that?" "Me either, and I don't regret it"
/r/seduction12/09/11 07:43 PM
1

I would not beat around the bush and just meet up with her one on one for some beers. If things go well just take her straight home. If they don't go as well, have a backup plan to meet up with some friends for more drinks and invite her along. Seems most natural to me, since IMO you have demonstrated your interest in her and vice versa, don't pussyfoot around
/r/seduction12/09/11 05:45 PM
1

Yes, the fact that she couldn't go, but suggested an alternative speaks very highly to her interest in you. I don't think you need to look at this as so different than a hook-up. You're meeting up for a few drinks, you still need to game her.
/r/seduction12/09/11 05:25 PM
1

Duh, yell HI! back. Nothing to lose maybe she was just having fun? Sometimes I walk down the street and put my hand out for a high-five to random strangers
/r/seduction09/09/11 09:04 PM
1

Bill?
/r/seduction09/09/11 08:38 PM
2

I think once you've allowed him to talk to the girl for more than a few minutes without interruption it becomes harder for you to blow him out. As soon as he started talking to your girl for more than one comment you should have said something to him, perhaps, "DUDE! Where did you get that necklace? I see people with them ALL THE TIME but I haven't seen them in stores anywhere..they've become so popular!
/r/seduction29/08/11 06:50 PM
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I think you are overthinking this. True, those status updates would lead me to believe the girl might be a bit dramatic/attention seeking, but more importantly, you shouldn't be reading this much into her facebook, if at all.
/r/seduction12/07/11 05:19 PM
3

She said lets plan it, meaning "You, plan it". Get on that and tell her when she's coming over.
/r/seduction08/07/11 02:25 PM
1

Wait. When you ask if its creepy, you are worrying what the girl might think? Don't make up reasons for them not to fuck you man, just treat them like any other woman. Then again, if you are feeling creepy or weird about it, despite your alpha give no fucks attitude, then you probably aren't down and you shouldn't force yourself to approach just because a girl is physically attractive. I guess my point is the answer to this question really depends on why you are asking it.
/r/seduction07/07/11 08:47 PM
1

How do the logistics work with a date like this? Do you meet at the yoga studio? Afterward, when you are all sweaty, how do you bounce her to the next location without first taking a shower? Or is it just strictly "Lets meet up and do this activity and then part ways"? Genuinely curious about these exercise activity dates.
/r/seduction07/07/11 08:26 PM
3

Pool, billiards? That is pretty impressive because usually when I play with someone who hasn't played before, their hands are SO unsteady and they don't understand how to build a bridge with their weak hand. If no one asked if it was your first time, you're a pretty good actor.
/r/seduction07/07/11 08:11 PM
1

It sounds to me like this related back to your "strict" upbringing and table manners. You don't need to put your fork and knife down between every bite like they teach in manners school. Its not the end of the world, but I think that you are getting caught up in your head about being proper, something that was drilled into you at a young age. On top of this you are worried about being judged, because your parents probably critiqued your manners frequently. All I can say is fake it til you make i…
/r/seduction07/07/11 08:05 PM
2

I like what you're saying here but I couldn't help but laugh at the phrasing.
/r/seduction05/07/11 09:07 PM
2

Beyond what these guys are saying, the way you asked her out doesn't really make sense. She already goes to this bar regularly, so why would you ask her if she wants to go? I know, because you want her to go with you, but it just comes across somewhat awkwardly. Also, since you have never been to this bar, how do you know she goes there often? Avoid this by taking her somewhere that you like to go.
/r/seduction05/07/11 08:50 PM
5

Cool to read this. If I were you I would definitely try to go out with hahaboohoo more because he sounds like an excellent wing/teacher.
/r/seduction05/07/11 08:28 PM
1

I would seriously have a sit down with this friend and explain how extremely stupid he is being. If we are talking about strangers or the girl's friends, I would think that your response turning it back is good. You could even say something like, "We'll see if she plays her cards right, I haven't made up my mind about this one yet...Now go away."
/r/seduction05/07/11 08:20 PM
2

These things are so hard to nail down, I'm impressed you had such a noticable change after only one night. That is awesome. A nice bed/mattress is definitely worth the money - you spend 1/3 of your life there.
/r/seduction05/07/11 07:52 PM
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No they only talk about how your red wine won't spill if your wife jumps on the bed..because I've always found the mattress I'm sleeping on to be a great drink holder.
/r/seduction05/07/11 07:51 PM
2

it worked. In what way? I want to hear the story of what caused this response, and what happened after you turned away a bit
/r/seduction01/07/11 07:19 PM
1

I like this, because I would normally eject if that type of response happened, nothing to lose here
/r/seduction01/07/11 07:17 PM
4

sounds like good comfort building
/r/seduction01/07/11 12:54 PM
4

"Me too!" I wouldn't even really talk about it while you are together, but it will probably come up. Just have a fun time and don't think about seduction
/r/seduction30/06/11 04:10 PM
1

Instead of do you do this all the time, I probably would say something like "have you ever had to tackle an overweight shoplifter?" and then the conversation probably would have died just like yours did. It's tough when hitting on workers, they are either receptive or not at all.
/r/seduction30/06/11 02:10 PM
2

We're in agreement. You can't know so don't let it limit you. I agree that some girls WILL NOT date a shorter guy, and thats ok. Some girls won't date me because they think I'm ugly or annoying or whatever they come up with in their head. That's ok too.
/r/seduction30/06/11 01:49 PM
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There are a million potential reasons any one girl won't be interested in you. By thinking about them you are limiting yourself and making them into much larger obstacles than they are.
/r/seduction29/06/11 06:45 PM
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I could be wrong, but I would drastically reduce the texting/facebook chat/calling. Like no more than once a week, specifically to set up a meeting. When you are physically in the same space, stop being a pussy and be much more aggressive. My interpretation is: She wants you to slow down with the "relationship stuff" because you guys haven't even been physical yet (speed THAT shit up)
/r/seduction29/06/11 05:24 PM
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I like your response a lot. That is the mindstate you should have. As long as you aren't going to let her rejecting you/ignoring you affect your self-esteem/confidence, there is nothing wrong with being somewhat persistant. It has worked for me in the past when everyone else said I should give up.
/r/seduction29/06/11 03:02 PM
2

Happy birthday. Please provide more details about the seduction, if there was any. Sometimes things just fall into place.
/r/seduction29/06/11 02:32 PM
5

Not really...If she doesn't want to nothing you say will convince her, but I wouldn't give up either. If you don't try to get her to meet up, you're right, you will never see her. Keep pushing, but don't get desperate. You've got nothing to lose.
/r/seduction29/06/11 02:21 PM
2

The point is that direct can work, but if you just do the opener, get the number, and bounce, you haven't built any comfort, hardly any attraction, and the girl most likely won't return your call or text, unless that short interaction went very well.
/r/seduction28/06/11 02:13 PM
2

I'm guessing she reacted that way because of your delivery. That will take practice and comfort, considering this is your first attempt, but eventually you won't give off a creepy pickup vibe and will instead seem much more natural, like you are just making some enjoyable conversation.
/r/seduction21/06/11 02:12 PM
1

Probably because you keep asking him. True his first reply was a bit gruff, but he's right. There is no point in worrying about things that are out of your control, and it can certainly only be damaging to sit around considering if these uncontrollable things will result in you being "screwed". You are basically asking for us to permit you to use this as a crutch.
/r/seduction20/06/11 05:17 PM
2

If you own the awkward moments, they become yours. Then it's just you reveling in the lulz of uncomfortable people. Never retreat. Never back down. Treat it like a game... everyone's uncomfortable, but who will stick it out the longest? Most people avoid awkwardness, so if you don't give a fuck, you're already that far ahead. Beautiful
/r/seduction20/06/11 05:02 PM
3

whoa...young 20 somethings who are engaged and cheat on each other don't qualify as a family that can be broken up. Sorry, but that sounds like it is barely past highschool dating. We don't even know where this is taking place and cultural differences with young marriages/engagements could make a big difference in my view on this subject. Honestly, I would be more offended at someone going after a girl who recently got into a relationships than someone going after this girl. I still don't think …
/r/seduction17/06/11 02:18 PM
1

I actually think this is really interesting and I think you might be right, at least on some level. I'm trying to think of some examples of this and having a hard time.
/r/seduction17/06/11 02:09 PM
1

I'm of direct at night and indirect at night. That's just my thought process though (and that last part is exactly the opposite of most theory) Did you mean to say direct at night and indirect during the day? That seems to be the opposite of what most people say.
/r/seduction15/06/11 08:31 PM
5

I think asking such things is frowned upon, but probably in a similar manner to any other piracy.
/r/seduction15/06/11 08:15 PM
3

This is the problem with trying to be sly and acting like you have one motive (interest in pilates) when really you want to take the girl out and fuck her. Now you've got yourself in a tough spot. When she realizes what you really want she will either think you're shady, not bold, or don't go after what you want, most likely. I will be interested to hear what others have to say, given the situation, but I don't have much advice. When I've been in this situation I try to go direct with something …
/r/seduction14/06/11 09:22 PM
5

From the three FR's you've given it sounds to me like you aren't being aggressive enough. If a girl is dry humping you and making noises you NEED to rip her clothes off. Do not keep stopping the escalation, I don't know why you are doing this when the girl is all hot and horny (fr1 and 3). Are you calming things down or are they? One note, if a girl says "i'm not going to sleep with you tonight" you can't let it affect you in anyway, maybe even say something like "definitely not", or "no I never…
/r/seduction14/06/11 09:03 PM
2

I believe he was asking the OP for an example of what his answer would be when the question comes back around the circle.
/r/seduction14/06/11 04:42 PM
1

Youtube: Daygame Youtube: Simplepickup That should give some ideas. What heckz said. I wish I could offer more, but this is something I'm still trying to figure out for myself.
/r/seduction13/06/11 08:20 PM
1

Find the right balance between attention and neglect. No games you play or specific content of skype conversations will make or break the LDR, it will really come down to whether you both want it to go on. Good luck.
/r/seduction13/06/11 08:07 PM
1

Yes and we love it. Thanks makeup artists and hair dressers.
/r/seduction13/06/11 07:36 PM
2

She was just playing a little hard to get with the "no for me" thing. She expected you to beg her to hang out like every other guy. When you said you were busy (instead of tryign to figure out a way to hang out with her) you shocked her, thats why she gasped. She was surprised. Overall I'd say you're doing great. This girl definitely wants to keep hooking up with you and i'd say if anything you should push her harder. You are pretending to be experienced, now act like it. Don't be scared about s…
/r/seduction13/06/11 07:17 PM
1

how is that alpha?
/r/seduction13/06/11 06:12 PM
5

Whoa you've got a dirty mind, slow down, we just met. I don't usually take it out until the second date.
/r/seduction10/06/11 08:04 PM
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man..where can I find some whores like this? High Five No criticism or advice to offer.
/r/seduction09/06/11 09:11 PM
2

You need to work on your self-confidence, surprising given the read through because you sound like a confident guy who isn't afraid to push the boundaries. "For my age, I'm not as experienced as perhaps I should be" - There is no such thing as experienced as you should be. This is all in your head. You need to tell yourself you are probably one of the most sexually experienced and skilled people in the club, if not the world. "I think that girls can probably pick up on this" - Only if you let it…
/r/seduction09/06/11 08:37 PM
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Ya i'm sure if you were out with an hb6 and some supermodel/celebrity walked over and blatantly hit on you you would have the moral character to stay put. Of course you would. Edited to add: Slut shaming is probably the last thing that any PUA or anyone even interested in being with women should do. Are you not on here because you want to have sex with women? Ok.
/r/seduction07/06/11 09:09 PM
1

It's hard to say without seeing how you were acting..but I would tend to completely ignore this. Seriously who gives a fuck? Be willing to back down in the moment, but clearly these complaints weren't a big deal or the bartender/bouncer would have thrown you out that night. Honestly...the bartender was probably jealous.
/r/seduction02/06/11 03:58 PM
1

I don't see why this has to be so black and white. It's clear. You want to go to a concert and none of your friends can go? Go by yourself. You want to go on vacation and none of your friends can go? Maybe a bit weirder, but go by yourself. You're making your friends into a crutch and an excuse. If they aren't into picking up chicks leave them in the corner and go run some game. Once they see you having success, some of them may change their tune. It shouldn't matter either way, they are your fr…
/r/seduction26/05/11 08:37 PM
9

Good report. I may have missed it in your FR, but what is the "lucky line" ? Overall I think you kept a very alpha mentality. Banter is spot on, although I guess at this point its not banter, just who you are. What girl wouldn't be having a blast with you if you are like this? Good work. Thanks
/r/seduction20/05/11 02:30 PM
2

That does seem pretty strange. I think she just wanted to be cave manned. She sounds like a shy nervous girl who just wanted you to make out with her and lead her, possibly home to your bed. You pinpointed the screwup. I'm guessing you said "A little bit." and then you guys kept dancing and didn't say anything. That is the tension you want to build, the good kind, but you broke it and let all the air out when you complimented her. Looking at this situation for myself, you tried to "play it cool"…
/r/seduction20/05/11 01:52 PM
1

I think you need to stop worrying about what she will think and do what YOU want, regardless of the outcome. Next time this happens, when there is a girl that you really want to talk to, don't wait 3 months, 3 weeks, 3 days, or even 3 minutes. Wait 3 seconds and go fucking talk to her and stop being a pussy. You can't fail if you don't try, but you damn sure won't succeed. I tell myself I would rather have a good story about getting rejected hard than have no story and a lingering thought of "wh…
/r/seduction19/05/11 07:04 PM
3

Well obviously if the girl starts grabbing you and mounting you you aren't going to stop her to go brush your teeth. If I wake up a bit early (usually to take a piss) I might brush my teeth real quick in anticipation of this, but most girls I have found don't really care. If you have a serious, chronic bad breath condition then you should see a doctor or dentist for help. I also think that you could take a mindset of "What are you doin kissing this beautiful face with that morning breath?" with …
/r/seduction19/05/11 06:21 PM
1

Don't ask her to join you at a bar, what is this? Tell her to come get a drink with you cause you have some crazy freaky shit to tell her. If her "OMG" response was a positive one where she was looking at you with some newfound respect or interest or even curiosity then definitely push it even more in that direction. The fact that she told you (unsolicited) that she is a sex therapist means she has an interest in these sorts of topics and enjoys talking about them - Don't pussyfoot around. Discl…
/r/seduction19/05/11 02:55 PM
2

I take that as when you called she was busy and couldn't or didn't want to answer her phone. She could have just ignored it completely but instead sent you a message so you could tell her why you were calling her. I assume you had a reason for calling her? Perhaps to set up a meetup/date? In that case I would proceed either proceed with text game or tell her to call me back when she's done [something funny related to a past interaction].
/r/seduction19/05/11 02:43 PM
9

Ya, virtually none. The only times it has happened have been very unattractive girls. Just like the real world, the men do the approaching and initiating.
/r/seduction19/05/11 02:37 PM
1

The last text from her is based on her text "You don't need to take me out haha" If I had to guess, I'd think that the way you phrased your invitation to dinner made her feel a little uncomfortable, perhaps giving her too much power. She gave some back to you because she wants you to lead her. Be strong and don't let this super minor thing affect your frame with her.
/r/seduction18/05/11 09:22 PM
3

Honestly...I wouldn't worry about it. Ya it kind of sucks she just assumed you were gay, but it probably actually brought her shields way down. All you did to this girl was say hey, so clearly doing more kino (impossible) wouldn't have made any difference. People make snap judgements all the time and I would guess the fact that you are good looking, dress well, and are outgoing toward a woman made her assume you are gay. Now that she knows you aren't, you probably seem like quite the catch. Keep…
/r/seduction18/05/11 09:04 PM
1

This is very positive, good advice. I would listen to this guy. Don't let the small things affect you. Isn't that what the alpha mindset is all about?
/r/seduction18/05/11 06:36 PM
3

I've had really sweaty palms too, and I have found the best thing to do is to stop drinking soda (coke esp for me), don't drink tons of water, and relax and stop thinking about it. If you focus on it it seems to get worse which makes sense. I tell myself to let them breathe, be free and move around a lot so they stay dry. If I get nervous and put them in my pockets or fold them up then they get more sweaty. Fake it til you make it. As far as Kino, unless you are holding hands or trying to grab i…
/r/seduction18/05/11 06:21 PM
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If you are friends with the other girl (based on the fact you were talking with her I would assume you know her a bit better than HB9), the next time you go in and they are both there I would play it exactly how you did this time. Very friendly, but most of your attention on nonHB9. I would tell her to come have a drink after work (make it sound fun, not like a date. Maybe some other friends are coming too), then say, "You can bring your little friend along too" or something along those lines, w…
/r/seduction18/05/11 06:17 PM
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I'm no expert conversationalist, but I would think the answer to this is the same as learning to do anything. Get out there and practice. Fuck up a bunch and then think back about how you could have done better. Also, its a bit confusing what you see the issue as. You say you are a REALLY good talker, but then you say you have nothing to say. Is it the initial approach that is the problem or is it continuing the conversation once it is started?
/r/seduction17/05/11 08:35 PM
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I think it's a good interpretation about being spontaneous. Break the rules, assert your beliefs, and be a person who others want to follow. I don't know if the only way to be romantic is to break the rules or do something so out of the ordinary though, only when things becomes dull or if you are already kind of boring. What do you think of the diet?
/r/seduction13/05/11 04:29 AM
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