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average looking guy walked up to me, started making conversation and trying to flirt Step by step. - average looking guy walked up to me - What if that guy is also dressed well, has a good haircut, smells good, is clean, has a friendly attitude, and he doesn't look like a threat, a drug dealer, or a thief? - started making conversation - If the guy mentioned above were to approach you, wouldn't you be just a little curious to find out what he has to say? - trying to flirt - Before getting to thi…
/r/seduction27/07/26 06:55 PM
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In Romania, only gypsies or drunk guys do what you said: 'Ignore and keep on gaming.' No, if she mentions her boyfriend, you leave, it's as simple as that... no using boyfriend-destroyer BS or trying to find the truth. When she brings up her boyfriend and doesn't look like she's joking... game over, next! If he is already there, it will be an insane move to make a move on her partner!
/r/seduction27/07/26 06:42 PM
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In other words, she tells you that there's already someone who has stuck their finger in that glass, yet you still insist on drinking water from it...
/r/seduction27/07/26 06:24 PM
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Even just the fact that you consider her a 10 means you're putting her on a pedestal There's no point in complicating things like that; putting someone on a pedestal means something else. I mean, you can notice that someone looks good, there's no use lying to yourself that they don't... the idea is just not to treat her like a princess out of fear that you'll lose her... that's all.
/r/seduction27/07/26 05:11 PM
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This is learned through small successes, not from failures. If you focus on this idea, it will be fun. It is painful if you have no idea what you are doing. It is like going to the gym and lifting weights in a way that messes you up more than it helps you.
/r/seduction27/07/26 04:53 PM
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Execution more than everything else. It seems like a handbook for autistic people. Think what it would be like to go to the gym and have someone tell you, 'Now work out to build muscle and do cardio,' and then just leave, leaving you all by yourself. You would be left to figure out how to do all these things entirely on your own. Would you like that? In seduction, everyone knows that besides physical appearance, you also need certain traits. If someone told you to be friendly, optimistic, playfu…
/r/seduction27/07/26 08:37 AM
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And what? She's gonna reject me purely because I don't have huge biceps and forearms? She'll tell herself "if this guy had muscles 1–2 cm bigger, I wouldn't reject him"... right? You're focusing on the wrong things instead of working on what really matters, like being social, friendly, optimistic, playful ...
/r/seduction26/07/26 09:24 PM
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Check out Clavicular, you'll love his philosophy.
/r/seduction26/07/26 05:25 PM
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A jacked physique is impressive to other men, girls don't care if you have six-pack abs or a V-shape. Approach them when the situation arises, not by looking for the perfect moment that never happens.
/r/seduction26/07/26 05:02 PM
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I read a lot of PUA stuff and very little resonated with me. Out of curiosity, what did you read that didn't resonate with you? Can you give me 2–3 examples?
/r/seduction26/07/26 10:08 AM
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All this game and seduction stuff is for guys who aren't look good. It’s like going to the doctor, you only need treatment if you have a problem. Top models are in a whole different reality. They'll never understand the guys who actually struggle with dating No, you don’t have to. 100% agree Most guys are simple people, there’s nothing special happening in their lives, yet they still do well. 5 and 6. 100% agree If you look closely, everything is reduced to being a friendly, cool and social pers…
/r/seduction26/07/26 09:41 AM
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If your default state is funny, optimistic, friendly, and confident, then yeah, you can 'just be yourself' and you'll be a likable person. But what if you don't possess those traits? Can you still be a likable and approachable person if you're just being yourself? It's way better to fake it till you make it instead of saying "fuck all those techniques, I'll just be myself", as if being yourself is the only thing that works and everything else fails.
/r/seduction25/07/26 09:16 AM
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The bar scenario is completely normal if you want to meet decent girls. But if you’re looking for easy girls, you need to go to the places where they hang out and they're down to make out or even go further. The second case, it’s easily solved by simply sending her a text a few hours before the date, it is a kind of indirect confirmation, asking: 'What color are you wearing, just so we don't end up looking like twins?' If she doesn't reply, you have your answer. But you can still go out anyway, …
/r/seduction25/07/26 08:44 AM
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A good-looking guy has a 30 second head start over another guy. If you look good, it’s much easier to start a conversation, and things move faster compared to an average guy. It's difficult to explain in just a few sentences, watch this VIDEO where Phil Heitlinger talks with James Tusk about whether looks matter or not, you'll understand it way better than reading what I write here.
/r/seduction24/07/26 09:35 PM
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I was saying that when a girl sees a camera, her behavior changes, any conversation you have with a girl who knows she's being filmed is no longer an authentic reaction. The YouTube is full of such videos. Here is a VIDEO to understand what I'm talking about, that's what reality looks like but of course, there's a downside to it because the girls don't know they're being filmed, but otherwise, how else am I supposed to capture real, authentic reactions?
/r/seduction24/07/26 09:11 PM
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You’re judging women through a man’s brain. Have you ever heard a dude say: "I wasn't into her at first, but after talking to her for a bit, she grew on me"? Never. But you hear girls say that all the time. If you're into psychology and curious about how this works from a scientific perspective, look up the "Continuum Model of Impression Formation" by Susan Fiske and Steven Neuberg, an article from 1990. Any dating coach who claims otherwise is just selling you oversimplified male fantasy, not h…
/r/seduction24/07/26 08:52 PM
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Except that in your example it must be a huge advantage you're not mentioning. - The coach who goes up to a girl and pulls her is good-looking, which is a major advantage because she's already attracted to him. So, of course he can say whatever he wants and it still works... it makes no sense to use any seduction method in this case - The guy struggling with her by using cold reads, qualifying, and all that stuff isn't getting rejected outright, the girl doesn't find him attractive, but she does…
/r/seduction24/07/26 06:36 PM
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In the video it's night time, and usually when they're dressed like that at night, I use a compliment or something with high energy like them but those are typical club girls. They spent an hour getting ready at home to go to the club, not to answer to street approaches...
/r/seduction24/07/26 06:09 PM
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How do you approach when there’s no obvious contextual reason to talk? There’s a lot to say here, but it’s all about your social skills and experience. Don't stress over it, though. Just pick a situation where it's easy to approach her and focus on that. There are no women that walk onthe street in Israel ? How do you stop needing the “perfect” opener? If your social skills are strong, you can say whatever silly thing and still pull it off. I remember RSD Tyler going up to a girl and saying: 'po…
/r/seduction24/07/26 06:04 PM
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suddenly I can’t think of anything to talk about. If this happens to you, then maybe you should talk to a doctor and explain what's going on like how you can't seem to retain a few simple things because you keep forgetting. That's definitely not a good sign if you're young.
/r/seduction24/07/26 05:27 PM
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No, because every single time, the conversation with a girl is boring, nothing intersting happens so nobody is interested in watching stuff like that. People expect you to walk up to a girl, flatter her, make out on the street, and head straight to a hotel... but actual conversations between two people are usually way more boring than that. I've only kept a few videos that I post here on reddit from time to time when a topic comes up and it's just easier to explain with a clip.
/r/seduction24/07/26 04:32 PM
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Why is it creepy? It's literally the only way to get a real, authentic interaction on camera. Everything you see on YouTube with girls initiating a conversation with a guy who's being filmed that's BS. In real life, there is absolutely no girl hitting on a guy out of nowhere with that kind of optimistic, high-energy, and super enthusiastic attitude.
/r/seduction24/07/26 04:24 PM
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Yes, I do. I've even filmed some videos with a spycam, but people say it's creepy, that I'm trying too hard, or that it has nothing to do with seduction because I'm not direct, or I was just lucky or that getting her number doesn't mean anything, and that I'm a weirdo hitting on girls in their 20s while I'm 45+... and all kinds of similar things. I do these things in silence, without trying to prove anything to anyone. I'm not walking down the street hitting on them, but doing it in everyday lif…
/r/seduction24/07/26 09:38 AM
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I turned 48 this year, and I've had the exact opposite experience over the last 6 years than you... so it looks like we're in a situation where someone draws a number on the ground, you're standing on the other side saying it's a 9, while from my point of view, it's a 6... Who's right? In my first post, I said that maybe some girls don't remember, while others remember perfectly what you said, trying to balance what I know with popular belief. But what's the point of saying a woman forgets the o…
/r/seduction24/07/26 08:59 AM
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We don't argue, I even give you a 🍺 we just have different opinion because I'm saying something that goes against what everyone on YouTube preaches. But this is simply the conclusion I've come to: a girl doesn't forget the opener, she remembers the general idea of what it was about. ask girls or women if they remember in details what were said to them recently. No, that's not a good example. We're strictly referring to the moment I met them, it's a single event, that's maybe 10 seconds long, the…
/r/seduction23/07/26 11:59 PM
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It looks like you're assuming girls are constantly being approached on the street. In reality, they do get a ton of attention: looks, gestures, catcalls.... but very few guys actually go up and talk to them. Thse are the people they forget. When you actually stop and talk to a girl for 5 - 10 minutes and make her feel good, you’re no longer just a passing memory, you become a unique experience for her. She remembers that. Do you always remember what everyone starts with in their conversations wi…
/r/seduction23/07/26 11:04 PM
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I hear the saying "prepare to fail" - and I get that Instead of preparing yourself to fail, why not enjoy achieving small wins? I mean, at first, it might just be a 3-second interaction where you ask a girl a question and leave. But slowly, you'll reach 1 minute, 2 minutes, 3 minutes... It's not about failing, it's about hitting small successes that worth celebrating. You'll end up being happy way more often than if you just chase a big result and keep failing until your mind gets desensitized a…
/r/seduction23/07/26 10:03 PM
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If you're really that fixated on the notion that a woman forgets, then sure, people are dumb, especially women. They forget how you opened them, the location, what they wore, what you wore... they forget it all, right? They're just totally clueless. And if 10 YouTube dating gurus repeat it, it HAS to be fact! Except that's just not my reality in Romania. Over the last 6 years, I've noticed that women remember how I started the conversation with them. They even remember all sorts of random detail…
/r/seduction23/07/26 09:24 PM
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A girl who isn't comfortable in a situation will know how to get out of it. And as long as a guy pays attention, he'll realize when he's crossing the line and back off before making a creep of himself or drawing unwanted attention. Society might think a big age gap isn't moral, but it's ridiculous to worry about morals when my actions aren't hurting anyone... these are two adults, nothing illegal is happening, no one is getting hurt or taking a loss. So... I don't see the problem. If someone doe…
/r/seduction23/07/26 08:26 PM
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I don't know where you're from that girls are so forgetful and naive. Maybe YOU forget because who knows how many girls you approach and you lose track of what you're saying, but for each woman, that moment is unique she doesn't forget. Of course, I can't say 10 out of 10, but 8 out of 10 won't forget the opener overall, she remembers.
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:45 PM
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as a 40 something year old flirtin with a girl whose probably like 25, it came off a bit creepy. Creepy to whom? Who's even watching?
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:24 PM
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The guy in the video talks way too much, if he had to repeat what he just said, I'm sure he couldn't do it. As for whether age matters, it depends on your goal with pickup: are you looking for a hookup or a long-term relationship? If it's just a hookup, you need to go to specific places where a certain type of girls hangs out and you're set, even if you're 50. But if you want higher quality or an LTR... that's where things get tricky, because even a 10 year age gap is already a lot, whether you'…
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:11 PM
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For me, that "special opener" is a prop... For exampe, I have a leather bracelet with a skull charm on my right wrist. When I see a girl I want to approach, I loosen the knot and then pretend I'm struggling to tie it back with my left hand. I go up to her and say: "excuse me, 2 seconds... could you help me tie this? I can't seem to get it with my left hand." While she’s tying the knot, I ask: 'Do you have a bracelet too?' or 'I see you’ve got a nice bracelet' or 'I see you’re NOT wearing a brace…
/r/seduction23/07/26 06:53 PM
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I can guarantee you most women wouldn’t remember what your opening line was. I don't know where this idea comes from, I've heard it many times, but it's complete BS. Sure, maybe some girls don't remember, but others remember perfectly what you said. They'll even remember even your FTC, like when you said you had to meet a friend. And guess what? Ten minutes later she goes, "I think your friend is gonna be mad at you for keeping him waiting"... or they'll even remember your face, and when you app…
/r/seduction23/07/26 06:04 PM
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I talk about the 3 seconds rule from Mystery book. From the second you spot someone you want to approach (or you catch their eye), you have max 3 seconds to take action and open the conversation... the more you wait, the more awkward it becomes and your mind will start making up excuses not to approach her.
/r/seduction22/07/26 03:35 PM
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Yes, I use pattern interrupts quite often but not like in your example, it's more like: "BTW... I just remembered something... yada yada yada"
/r/seduction21/07/26 09:14 PM
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If you use that 3 second rule, she won't have time to look at anyone else... but if you're just a sideline observer, then you're going to notice all sorts of things because when she sees you don't make a move, she assumes you're not interested in her.
/r/seduction21/07/26 07:53 AM
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From what I've seen, it's about personal pride but it’s also about the need for 100% control over everything. The moment you approach someone, you relinquish that total control to the other person, and suddenly, whether it’s a success or a failure is no longer in your hands. For someone who values control, that’s an extremely uncomfortable position to be in.
/r/seduction20/07/26 08:20 PM
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I've already said twice that I wouldn't approach them. Why should I choose such a difficult situation when in the opposite direction, at the terraces, there are probably 100 other girls who are in a much more approachable situation? I need to make things as easy as possible for myself, not get into a complicated situation just to see if I can manage.
/r/seduction20/07/26 07:02 PM
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Since I don’t know the specific scenario you’re thinking of, I don’t have enough details to comment on it. You didn’t mention what they’re wearing, if they’re drinking something, or if they have an umbrella, all of which are details you could use for an opener. Without those details, you have nothing to comment on. Either way, I’ve already said that I wouldn’t approach someone while they’re tanning for various reasons. I’ve been doing this for 5–6 years now, so I wouldn’t call myself a beginner,…
/r/seduction20/07/26 06:47 PM
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You have a choice. Either you go up and talk to them, or you end up complaining about how miserable the world is and how unlucky you are that you never happen to meet a girl at the perfect place and time, you know, like walking down the street, having her walk toward you, then trip right in front of you so you can catch her... I guess that would be a natural opener. Will that ever happen? Highly unlikely. So, you’ve got to go and talk to them. Now, I don't want to overdo it, though, I wouldn't a…
/r/seduction20/07/26 06:33 PM
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When they're standing still, it's easy... you have time, so you just take a stroll, make a detour, and make it look like those girls just happen to be right on your path....
/r/seduction20/07/26 05:37 PM
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First you said: "the idea of walking all the way across the beach just to approach them feels awkward and creates a lot of pressure in my head" and then... "I don’t necessarily have a problem physically walking up to someone in every situation".... I don't understand anything....
/r/seduction20/07/26 05:19 PM
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You are broke and picky, those two things don't go well together.
/r/seduction20/07/26 07:32 AM
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you risk wasting time doing pleasnt safe convo All thse push-pull, qualify/disqualify, negging, frames, leading and pacing, compliance tests, and so on... are there precisely to create the necessary suspense and avoid a safe convo. because u want it..not because this will make her like u. So you’re not admitting that you HAVE to escalate for things to progress, while claiming you’re only escalating because you want to... nah, that’s not being honest.
/r/seduction19/07/26 04:17 PM
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Yes, the goal of game is to make a woman attracted to you. But how do you do that? What is that game process made of? If you analyze it closely, you will see that besides being friendly, optimistic, and full of life, it also involves having social skills with jokes and gags + exactly those things I listed: push-pull, qualify/disqualify, negging, frames, leading and pacing, compliance tests, etc., etc. If you just look superficially, you won't see the details of how to make yourself a likeable pe…
/r/seduction19/07/26 03:30 PM
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You know that everyone says 'it is not WHAT you say but HOW you say it,' so I assume that those people are able to understand that a neg said in a certain way will become funny and nobody will get offended. Negging is a subtle joke, it is part of the game.
/r/seduction19/07/26 03:12 PM
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Where is there a single paragraph in that whole book that actually talks about "game"? The author even says you don’t need push-pull, qualifying/disqualifying, frames, leading and pacing, compliance ladders, negging, jokes, hand games, kino, routines/gambits... and guess what? These are the very things that make up game, but the author says you don't need these things. Moreover, the author even says not to make the other person laugh because you’re not a clown, and then later he explains over se…
/r/seduction19/07/26 02:39 PM
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in your scenario, you literally are approaching her with intent. If you don't intend to do anything with her, why bother engaging? What are you even looking to get out of it if you’re not interested? Have a real conversation, and see where it goes. Why do you care where the conversation goes if you say you have no intent? Also, having a real conversation isn't for beginners; this is for those who already have solid social skills. A guy with approach anxiety cannot have a real conversation. im go…
/r/seduction18/07/26 11:10 PM
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Telling a beginner who lacks social skills to just 'be real,' 'be authentic,' and 'not care what happens' is basically just telling them how to fail comfortably. Of course, if you already possess the qualities that make you a cool guy, then sure, you can be authentic. But if you don't have those skills yet, that advice simply doesn't work. 'Not caring about the outcome' is a lie you tell yourself. You're pretending that you don't want anything and are just being social, when in reality, you appr…
/r/seduction18/07/26 10:23 PM
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Kissing in public in Dubai? You'll go to jail, mate!
/r/seduction18/07/26 05:30 PM
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A few years ago, I was in Dubai for a few days, but I didn't notice the women-to-men ratio you’re talking about. What I did see, however, was an insane number of tourists. I've always said that Dubai is a fucked-up city... even with their stupid muslim rules... everything is just weird there. For me as a tourist, it was nice becasue it was short, but for you as a local... I don't know. My condolences.
/r/seduction18/07/26 11:41 AM
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So, basically, they just give you a blueprint to follow? Yeah, right... then give OP a blueprint to follow when talking to a girl, can you?
/r/seduction18/07/26 10:12 AM
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It's more about being able to read a girl in the moment. If you look at her clothing style, her attitude, and her body language, you can pretty much tell if being direct is too much and if it might scare her off... but with an indirect approach, you can never go wrong... so it's better to start indirect and switch to direct if you see it's worth it.... EDIT: In Romania, being direct is a trait that belongs to a cocky street punk, and usually, the guys who act like that are gypsies. Ironically, i…
/r/seduction18/07/26 09:29 AM
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You hit the nail on the head. I love Alex Hormozi's idea. He said you don't become a millionaire if you have a product and only try to sell it to buyers who are already interested in it. You become a millionaire when you can convince the undecided people to buy your product, because those who are already interested are few, but the undecided ones are the vast majority.... so you need a very good advertising. It’s exactly the same when it comes to women. The ones who like you from the start are f…
/r/seduction18/07/26 09:08 AM
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I've watched everything about RSD, and I noticed that they overcomplicate things unnecessary. Just look at Julien, he talks for 15 minutes about something that could be said in 30 seconds. The whole RSD philosophy relies on the assumption that everyone already possesses social skills to such a degree that even if you say something stupid, you can fix it through improvisation, which is exactly how all RSD members are. It’s like watching Michael Jordan teach basketball, and instead of teaching you…
/r/seduction18/07/26 08:23 AM
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RSD Max The Natural would work much better for you I watched it a few years ago, and after the video ended, I still didn't know what to say to a girl. It simply doesn't give you any concrete ideas. Like, 'Hey, what's up?' okay, that's an opener, but what next? Max comes along and says that if the girl wants to, she'll talk to you. But that's just not how things work. You need to actually have something to say so she can react and engage with you. You can't just ask a boring, basic question and e…
/r/seduction18/07/26 12:31 AM
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I don't like the original method of suddenly telling her that she needs to take a piece of gum, suggesting that her breath stinks... I would change it to something like: "Wow, what did you eat before coming here? It’s like you drank gasoline and ate garlic... here, take a piece of gum... there you go.."
/r/seduction18/07/26 12:20 AM
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There are a few things you just can't skip or reverse. Think a bit... Opener - perfectly fine. 'Let them get engaged' wait, why? Who even are you? Why should she listen to a stranger? Do you notice that there needs to be something else first? Right after the opener comes the DHV... meaning, after the OPENER, you show her that you're not some bum, but that you have presence, you're dressed sharp, and you take care of yourself. You're showing her you aren't just any random guy off the street... A …
/r/seduction18/07/26 12:04 AM
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A DHV is not a 'me, me, me' story like you said; it’s just a simple story that gives her a preview of your life. You have to be someone of value for a girl to actually listen to you. I mean, if a beggar approaches her, do you think she’d care to stand there and talk to him? But if that same beggar dresses decently, is clean, well-groomed, and looks presentable, things already change. A DHV isn't just through stories, it's also through how you dress and how you carry yourself. "You must build att…
/r/seduction17/07/26 11:41 PM
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From her point of view things look different. She doesn't think you're trying to pick her up, she just sees a regular guy who happens to be there by coincidence. When you tell her you're in a rush, or you want to meet your friends, she thinks something like: "This guy is busy and has somewhere to be, but I made him stop for me". Since she knows you have to leave soon because you said a FTC she realizes you won't linger around, which instantly makes her feel relaxed. What's beta about that? Where…
/r/seduction17/07/26 10:57 PM
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That's what a False Time Constraint is for, you don't want to give the girl the impression that you're going to stay there until she leaves... So, by using an FTC, you let her know that you won't stay there for too long.
/r/seduction17/07/26 09:42 PM
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Your plan doesn't contain a DHV, so in this case, it's assumed that you DHV through your clothes and attitude... simply put, if you don't project a DHV, why would a girl talk to you? Just like you choose a girl for her looks, they choose a guy who is at least somebody, even if he's not a top model. It's too early to use a routine right after the opener when the girl isn't even hooked. She would just listen to you out of politeness while thinking, 'When is his story going to end?' so she can make…
/r/seduction17/07/26 09:34 PM
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Truth is, most girls won't react like the one in the video. They get caught off guard, feel a bit shy or suspicious, don't expect you to approach them... they have all kinds of reactions but the real secret that nobody tells you isn't looking for IOI signs, it's making sure you don't see any IOD signs. That's the key: the moment you notice a sign of discomfort, you walk away. But as long as you don't see any discomfort, you're free to keep going, whether you get IOIs or not.
/r/seduction17/07/26 08:02 PM
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when asking with the aim at having a conversation to ask her out that’s what messes me up. While chatting, ask if she likes tea, ice cream whatever. She'll tell you yes or what she prefers instead (just remember her answer). When you're about to leave, tell her: ... "So you like tea, right? Let's get some tea together, give me your phone number, and we'll pick a day for it.." Done.
/r/seduction17/07/26 07:36 PM
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I fear a lot being publicly humilliated by rejecting me It won't happen what you said if you start indirectly, and only keep going if you see it's worth it. For example, in this VIDEO, I just asked a simple question, and you can see how she becomes really talkative, curious, and smiley... is a sign that it's worth continuing the conversation... if I had gotten a dry answer, I would've just said thanks and walked away. In fact, even while you're talking to her, it doesn't look like you're trying …
/r/seduction17/07/26 07:21 PM
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So 'I don't give a fuck because I'm actually terrified of being judged... Aha, I get it now.
/r/seduction16/07/26 11:07 PM
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Go to places where easy girls hang out, like certain spots in your town (they're usually well-known), and don't be picky. Over there, it doesn't matter what you look like, and you don't even need game...
/r/seduction16/07/26 11:02 PM
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Waiting is an option and being direct with her is an option too... but wouldn't it be way more classy to just drop a subtle hint so she cools it down, since you're not really impressed by her? That's what a neg does.
/r/seduction16/07/26 10:10 PM
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And what do you do if a woman acts like a diva? A diva considers herself so superior that she implies you're just not on her level... so what do you do then? I was talking to two girls, and one of them wouldn't even look at me and just gave me short, cold answers... she wanted to leave....but before leaving, I thought I'd throw in a neg because it actually annoyed me that she wasn't paying any attention to me at all. So I said "look at your shadow on the ground from the light, it looks like a wi…
/r/seduction16/07/26 08:58 PM
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I want to add that all you need is to give her a reason to say something to you, it doesn't matter if it's a comment, a remark, a question, or whatever you want and just see her reaction. And you're right, within 10 seconds, you can tell if it's worth continuing or if you should just walk away.
/r/seduction16/07/26 07:47 PM
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Curiosity is tricky because if you're curious, you end up asking one thing after another. I mean, you're curious, right? So you want to find things out, and how do you do that? You ask question after question... and you end up looking like this guy VIDEO. This is an interview style format, something every dating coach advises you to avoid because you see, it comes off as creepy, even the woman asked why he had so many questions. However, I like the guy's attitude in the video, but not the way he…
/r/seduction16/07/26 07:33 PM
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When a girl acts like a diva, these things bring her back down to earth: - Watch out, you have a strand of hair going into your mouth... anyway, as I was saying... bla bla bla... - Do you always blink this much? ... anyway, as I was saying... bla bla bla - Hold on, I think you have lipstick on your teeth... anyway, as I was saying... bla bla bla - Nice dress, I've already seen like four other girls wearing it around town today, must be in trend... anyway, as I was saying... bla bla bla You drop …
/r/seduction16/07/26 05:41 PM
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In other words, masculinity is an ideal you strive for, but you're fully aware you'll never actually get there because nobody is the perfect mister masculinity. It's just an excuse a dating coach feeds a student to explain why he failed: "It's because you don't project masculinity, you need to work on it, so buy my course to learn how to build it."
/r/seduction16/07/26 08:34 AM
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Why don't you record the conversations with a spy cam?
/r/seduction15/07/26 09:00 PM
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As long as the girl is shorter than you, height doesn't matter.
/r/seduction15/07/26 08:38 PM
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You're right, except for the 'never have an outcome in mind' part. This is a weird philosophy promoted by the RSD group where you basically lie to yourself that you don't want anything and just want to be social, when in reality, you approached her specifically because you like her and want to get somewhere with her. When a guy acts like he's 'just being social', but his eyes and body language are giving off 'I want you' vibes... it's something girls notice quickly, and it just doesn't look good…
/r/seduction15/07/26 08:00 PM
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There are always women who are shorter than you. I'm 1.70, and I never hit on women taller than me because there's just no point.
/r/seduction15/07/26 07:26 PM
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It's an indirect opener that gets the other person talking... it's perfect. There are 3 possible outcomes: - She responds coldly and bluntly, just giving a short answer and maybe she doesn't even looking at you, obviously, you just say thanks and walk away. - She gets talkative, smiles, and starts asking questions... this is the best-case scenario, and it's definitely worth pushing forward - She doesn't reject you, but she isn't very talkative either... this is still worth a shot, but you should…
/r/seduction15/07/26 04:54 PM
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What’s up to date?
/r/seduction15/07/26 04:43 PM
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It's interesting that I'm always talking about balance and avoiding extremes, and yet I’m the one being perceived as very close to an extreme. It is what it is, let's just be healthy and move on.
/r/seduction15/07/26 08:57 AM
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Nah... the extremes were in your title from the start. Anyway, discussing things in extremes never works, but if you look at the middle ground, you’ll realize that everyone has a bit of truth in what they're saying.
/r/seduction15/07/26 08:03 AM
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I didn't say I was smart, I thought masculine energy came from being serious, but you're suggesting the opposite. So, how does it actually work? Is there a man in this world who truly radiates masculine energy? Who would that be?
/r/seduction15/07/26 07:54 AM
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You've got a choice, either you make a move to get over to her, or you just keep walking and spend the rest of the day thinking about how unfair life is, what an opportunity you missed, and how unlucky you are. So, what do you choose? If you think it's creepy, then creepy to whom? Who is actually watching you, tracking your every step, and saying, "Aha... that guy was on the other side of the street and changed his direction for that girl... wow, what a jerk".. See how ridiculous that sounds? Ju…
/r/seduction14/07/26 11:05 PM
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You're getting downvoted because people don't realize it's a joke. ...That’s weird as hell.
/r/seduction14/07/26 09:47 PM
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Who said you need alcohol? It can be anything, even just a glass of tap water. It’s the gesture that counts, just to have a reason to open the conversation.
/r/seduction14/07/26 09:37 PM
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The year doesn't matter because nothing has changed in decades. If you read Eric Weber’s book "How to Pick Up Girls" from 1970, you’ll see indirect, situational or direct openers, basically, the same ones used 50 years ago are still being used today.
/r/seduction14/07/26 09:16 PM
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i can better read what their body language says. But if you really break it down, you'll arrive at IOI and IOD signs... concepts that were explained 20 years ago... so there's no need to fail and put yourself in all sorts of uncomfortable situations.
/r/seduction14/07/26 09:04 PM
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The funny thing is that you won't see positive signs (unless you're lucky). but you will see negative ones. So, if you want to make a move based on signs, since you won't see thepositive ones, the best approach is to act whenever you don't see a negative sign. In other words, if it's not forbidden, it's essentially allowed. It's that simple.
/r/seduction14/07/26 08:58 PM
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The term PUA is currently associated with manipulation and all sorts of negative things, but if you dig a little deeper into what it actually teaches, you’ll see that there’s nothing wrong. Even a NEG isn't a bad thing.... because everyone knows that it’s not important WHAT you say, but HOW you say it. So it is clear that a NEG said in a certain way can be an amusing thing, and nobody will get offended... Also there’s that famous phrase by Ross Jeffries "Leave her better than you found her"... S…
/r/seduction14/07/26 08:47 PM
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Both sides are lying The lie comes in when people talk about extremes but the truth is somewhere in the middle. Clavicular went on a trip to Paris (France) and things didn't go as he thought they would. - Sneako did a really good analysis of what happened - VIDEO - it’s not always like that, because there are always exceptions but maybe 70% of the cases. - In this VIDEO Myron explains things from his own perspective, but since we know what actually happened in Paris, what he’s saying is a total …
/r/seduction14/07/26 07:18 PM
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Have a drink in your hand. The moment she looks at you, simply raise your glass to her, as if saying cheers. It is the easiest way to make a move in a bar, at an event, or in any location where you can hold a drink.
/r/seduction14/07/26 05:13 PM
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Well, a real man doesn't joke around, right? So, if she took it seriously, then that’s actually the correct attitude for a man with masculine energy. Notice how, if you analyze these things carefully, you realize that none of it actually matters... as long as you’ve got something between your legs and you can grow a beard and body hair, you’re a man. All that talk about energy and other abstract concepts doesn't matter; you just set goals for yourself that you’ll never reach, and then you get th…
/r/seduction14/07/26 08:44 AM
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From what I see, the frame you're using is purely defensive, built on sarcasm, roasting, and dodging simple questions like where do you live. That doesn't look good at all. On top of that, it's clear you've entered her frame. You avoid complimenting her so you don't give her validation, yet you spend hours with her, cater to her workouts, keep her entertained, and walk her all the way to the metro. What does that mean? She's a 25-year-old girl with a great body who is amused by you playing tough…
/r/seduction13/07/26 10:11 PM
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Check the Instagram follower count of a guy versus a girl... that's how you'll see the answer to what you're looking for with your own eyes.
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:19 PM
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Give me an example of a guy who is genuine and masculine... can you? See how vague and superficial; this concept is? Even giving an example is super difficult.
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:16 PM
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In 2026 women behave pretty differently than 10 years ago Nah... I don't think so. if she says no, and is firm about it, Many times you can see when a woman feels uncomfortable, so you can take a step back before you explicitly hear her say NO waiting for her to say NO is a mistake that ruins everything you've built up to that point.
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:13 PM
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The more you know about seduction but don't know how to use it, the more harm you do to yourself.
/r/seduction13/07/26 06:40 PM
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No mate, if someone fears rejection, there are other things that help them get past that phase. Imagine a guy who is afraid of spiders; will you force him to hold one in his hand? That would lead to a panic attack. You don't force it; there are other steps that will eventually make him capable of holding a spider in his hand.
/r/seduction13/07/26 03:52 PM
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I simply don't get how people can't understand this whole indirect opener thing. Using an indirect opener means you’re only indirect at the beginning, for 1-2 minutes, just to see how the girl reacts. It goes without saying that if you get a positive reaction, you don't stay indifferent. So, you ask where XYZ Street is as an opener to start a conversation, but it would be absurd to still be talking about the street 5-10 minutes later. A few years ago, when I joined reddit, I thought I’d learn so…
/r/seduction13/07/26 03:48 PM
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Do not even try to come up with your own openers. You learn 2-3 openers + transitions and 2-3 funny stories that you will include in the conversation... that's enough for start. Imagine a guy who goes to culinary school, how do you think he learns? First, he copies what others do. Only after some time, with experience, will he be able to create his own recipes... but at first, he’s like a monkey, you know? Monkey see, monkey do... freestyle comes later.
/r/seduction13/07/26 03:39 PM
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Well, you don't need to read body language like you're a psychologist or working for the CIA or FBI. In your post, you said: 'I have a problem, I can’t think of an opener or a transition,' so I gave you 2-3 opener examples. You also said TRANSTION but that part is actually easy... after the opener, without a pause (or maybe just a 1-2 second pause to gauge her reaction), you make an assumption. The easiest one is telling her she looks familiar, like: "Wait a second... where have I seen you befor…
/r/seduction13/07/26 02:39 PM
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And now you don't know an opener... so it looks like all that non-verbal stuff was in vain. I'll give you an opener for any supermarketm you tell her: "excuse me, I left my eyeglasses at home, could you tell me how much is this?" If the girl is stationary, find a reason to stand near her, but with your back toward her and after a few seconds tell her: "Sorry, had my back to you, how rude of me... I hope I didn't step on your foot" Use a prop, like a leather bracelet: loosen the knot beforehand a…
/r/seduction13/07/26 02:16 PM
1

What does this non-verbal language actually mean? Are you talking about sign language?
/r/seduction13/07/26 01:56 PM
1

On average, how many minutes does it take from start to finish?
/r/seduction13/07/26 12:30 PM
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You start off safe, and then, after 1-2-3-4- 5 minutes (once you see she’s hooked) you start showing her that you like her...this is what the timeline looks like. So, what you're saying doesn't make any sense, playing it safe at the start doesn't mean you're still playing it safe 10 minutes later.
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:07 AM
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There are 3 states a girl might react with: -She is interested (or she likes you) She is smiley, talkative, curious, and asks questions. This is the best-case scenario; everything is easy, and you don’t need game nothing at all. -She is not interested in talking to you (she doesn't like you) You can feel her cold vibe, and you notice her avoiding eye contact. This is the worst-case scenario. Take it as a rejection; 'game' is useless here because you can't change her mind - She is talking to you …
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:00 AM
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If a guy were to play basketball without knowing anything, just chucking the ball at the hoop hoping he might make a basket, and using the excuse that it's a numbers game and on top of that, he isn't bothered by missing because he's actually just having fun, what would you say about him? Furthermore, if he were to tell his teammates, who are professional players, to do exactly the same thing, would you applaud and encourage him + say is a solid advice or would you tell him that what he's doing i…
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:33 AM
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My nonverbals are okay In that book where you read about all this non-verbal stuff, what do they actually recommend for an opener?
/r/seduction12/07/26 10:46 PM
1

Learning from mistakes is actually pretty tricky. It creates this mindset that there’s a perfect way to do things, and if it doesn’t work out, you assume you must have done something wrong. But if you look closely, there isn't actually that much to learn, a guy who is social, in a good mood, and friendly already has everything he needs.
/r/seduction12/07/26 10:32 PM
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try to let her know the reason u came to talk to her as soon as possible Why? Do you think they’re not catching on to what’s going on?
/r/seduction12/07/26 10:20 PM
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Being where single women hang out? Yeah, definitely. But the rest of what you said? That’s a hard NO. Honestly, that’s a pretty retarded way to approach it.
/r/seduction12/07/26 09:53 PM
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Interesting idea ignoring everything others already know just to go out and discover it all on your own... in other words, you want to reinvent the wheel.
/r/seduction12/07/26 11:09 AM
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Mate, you made a whole one hour video explaining the process of filtering the right women from a crowd, whereas I just gave a shortcut... obviously, if you're not picky. If you are, then go ahead and do the insane thing of approaching dozens of women, but it's an impossible thing to do in a small city... since I live in a city with 100k people, I need to adapt to these conditions. In my case, the volume game is a myth. For example, yesterday on a Saturday evening with perfect weather, I walked f…
/r/seduction12/07/26 09:15 AM
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I don't believe in approaching a massive number of girls, but simply being in the right place. Just like if you want bread, you go to a bakery, not a butchery the same goes for this. If you want a hookup, you go where those things are more likely to happen. In my hometown here in Romania, I know certain spots frequented by a specific type of women... If I go there, it's pretty easy to hook up... but the moment I step into a classier place, those chances start to drop. It's not about game, it's n…
/r/seduction11/07/26 10:42 PM
1

I expect the culture in Asia to be completely different from the West, so even ideas that work in the West will likely cause problems there... I recommend checking out STEVEOCTV on YouTube, the guy is awesome.
/r/seduction11/07/26 10:21 PM
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So... you know so many things about seduction that you literally blocked yourself... I mean, your brain short-circuited from information overload, so you threw away everything you knew, and now it works... By the way, what are you smoking? I want some too.
/r/seduction11/07/26 10:10 PM
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Conversation is like a match of ping-pong... with the opener and the transition, you’ve done your part of the work. For a dialogue to happen, you need the other person to give you a reaction... you know that saying, it takes two to tango. If the other person doesn't respond, it's no longer a dialogue, it's a monologue. However there are all kinds of gambits/routines, for example: - You comment on her shopping cart. Simply ask her what kind of good food she’s preparing with [whatever she has in h…
/r/seduction11/07/26 04:27 PM
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If you create the reason to approach her, it's way easier... even if nothing special happens in that moment, you still have that backup plan so you don't let the opportunity pass. For example: At the supermarket: I simply ask her: "Excuse me, two seconds, l forgot my glasses at home, what’s the price on this?" And just like that, you have a very simple opener. The transition comes immediately after the opener. If you look closely, you’ll actually see that the opener and the transition are almost…
/r/seduction11/07/26 03:47 PM
1

Mystery said those words 👍
/r/seduction09/07/26 08:04 PM
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You're right, except for the MIXED SIGNALS which means that you need to dedicate more time to her, because she is just undecided. In short, mixed signals are a good thing... she likes you on some level, but she doesn't want to look like an easy catch. Also, it is perfectly normal for mixed signals to appear in the beginning; it only becomes a problem if those signals persist later in the conversation. Mixed signals actually include shy or suspicious girls, those who have no idea what's happening…
/r/seduction09/07/26 07:55 PM
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I was at one of the largest malls in the world today Dubai Mall ?
/r/seduction09/07/26 07:26 PM
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It's interesting how everyone is scared of a NEG and this word has a very bad reputation, but ironically, the very same people say "it's not WHAT you say, it's HOW you say it" ... So basically, they are unable to understand that a NEG delivered in a certain way is actually amusing and nobody gets offended.
/r/seduction09/07/26 07:19 PM
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You got the idea. If you get a positive reaction, she responds enthusiastically, stops, locks eyes with you... then it’s clearly worth continuing. If you just get a dry thanks or she doesn't even look at you... is there even any point in continuing? I have a VIDEO here, I asked a simple question and she started being super talkative, curious, smiling... that's clearly a positive reaction, and it made me keep the conversation going. If I had gotten a short, dry answer, I would've just said thanks…
/r/seduction08/07/26 10:16 PM
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Just using an indirect ice breaker does not change everything. With an indirect opener, you are testing the waters; you see her reaction... If a girl doesn't comment on your observation, what are the chances that she will be enthusiastic if you start with a direct opener? People don't talk to each other using direct openers. Actually, it is more normal to comment on a certain thing happening in the surroundings or to ask a normal question and build from there. Rejection feels different. It’s one…
/r/seduction08/07/26 09:50 PM
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This whole crowd thing is tricky. Even if we assume that you don't care, it creates a problem for the girl because you're putting her in a tough spot. If she agrees to give you her number, the people watching might judge her as easy, and she knows that. If she doesn't give you her number, she looks stuck-up, which also isn't good... so her best option is just to tell you she has a boyfriend, even if she doesn't... There are countless opportunities where you can approach a girl with no one around…
/r/seduction08/07/26 08:22 PM
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Look at old people, they start conversations with anyone so easily. You need to be just like them. They have zero ego left to protect and they don't care about being judged. They just make a comment about the weather, a long line, or something random, and boom they're in a conversation. Why are you afraid of talking to a girl? She’s just a girl, a smaller, weaker human being than you. Why have nerves? Are you afraid she might beat you up and rob you? You are bigger and more built than her, very …
/r/seduction08/07/26 08:02 PM
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Yes, but that's not really seduction, is amateur level. It forces you into a brutal numbers game where you have to approach 100 -1000 girls or move to a bigger city just to find a match.... It starts to become insane. There are way more MAYBE women than YES women out there, and ignoring them as Mark Manson suggests is a massive mistake. The entire essence of game happens with the MAYBE girls, not the YES or NO ones. Even Alex Hormozi said that you don't become a millionaire by only selling to pe…
/r/seduction08/07/26 06:09 PM
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I remember Alan Roger Currie’s Mode One from 2006, and man, it’s the exact same stuff as in Models. The only difference is that while Alan Roger is directly sexual and vulgar, Mark Manson took those exact same concepts and toned them down to be less in-your-face. He wrote his book in 2011, so it’s obvious he ripped off the ideas from there.
/r/seduction08/07/26 05:55 PM
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The summary of Models is simple: just approach girls until you find one who likes you exactly as you are. At first, I thought the author was joking, but no... that is literally his method.
/r/seduction08/07/26 05:23 PM
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Yeah, everything you said is 100% correct... that’s what GAME is all about. As for inner game, don't bother with it. It's a waste of time, it's just fluff talk. The question is how do I learn and if I’m correct ? Some things you don't need to learn because they are completely instinctual, like reading the room or being able to read people. Other things, you just need to memorize, like learning 3 -4 funny stories and jokes, and memorizing 3 - 4 gambits for escalation. Once you have those, you hav…
/r/seduction08/07/26 04:37 PM
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You can’t explain an entire book in a few sentences. Everything is explained in the book "How to Get Beautiful Women into Bed." You need to pay attention because the title isn't just about "how to get a woman into bed" but specifically about BEAUTIFUL women, so this plays in a different league. While you can get away with saying silly things to an average-looking girl and still do well, those same things are a sign of a lack of creativity and have no value to a classy, beautiful woman who is alr…
/r/seduction07/07/26 06:47 PM
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negging is cringe No, it isn’t... it’s just badly misunderstood. The irony is that the guys who say "it’s not what you say, but how you say it" are not able to understand that a NEG delivered in a certain way makes things amusing, and nobody gets offended.
/r/seduction07/07/26 06:15 PM
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These things aren't about memorizing rules, they are a matter of instinct. It’s exactly like sensing when someone is sad or happy (those are the easy ones to spot) If you try to explain it in detail, it sounds overly complicated, but in reality, it's quite simple, all it takes is paying attention. It’s difficult for many people because they are often searching for clear positive signs that never appear or they are so discreet that the guy doesn't even notice them. So if you only wait for a big, …
/r/seduction06/07/26 07:48 PM
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That’s a classic beginner’s excuse. It shows they don't quite grasp the concept of calibration, some patterns and how to read body language to gauge if someone is even interested in talking. A guy might see all the signs (closed-off posture, a woman in a rush, or someone clearly avoiding eye contact) and yet, he still forces the approach. That’s not boldness or courage, it’s just plain stupidity. It’s like seeing a dog growling and barking, but then saying: "Hey, maybe it won't bite, you never k…
/r/seduction06/07/26 06:31 PM
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I'm 170, though barefoot I actually noticed I'm 169, but whatever, it doesn't matter. Just find girls who are shorter than you. No exceptions. Forget about that one guy who has a friend whose friend is dating a girl taller than him. Problem solved. Take a look at how other guys approach girls (these are your competitors) > VIDEO .. Are you still worried about being at a disadvantage? Not a chance!
/r/seduction05/07/26 04:24 PM
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The easiest way is to start with double meanings like Craig Ferguson does in this VIDEO. Basically, you give a sexual twist to her words without her actually saying anything explicit. You will understand what I mean if you watch the video. Neil Strauss said that you need to do all kinds of silly things you did in the 7th grade, like tapping on her shoulder and ducking away, bumping into her, sticking your tongue out at her, showing a heart sign, winking at her, blowing a kiss, throwing paper at …
/r/seduction05/07/26 04:06 PM
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I saw a video on YouTube about the feminization of Japanese and South Korean guys, and girls are absolutely crazy about it. When they see a guy wearing makeup, with lipstick, mascara on his lashes, and a face done up like he just walked out of a beauty salon... they just lose it. If masculinity (whatever the hell that even means) is supposedly so important, I highly doubt it.
/r/seduction05/07/26 03:51 PM
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Every time you talk to a girl, you need about 5 - 10 minutes... how do you fill that gap? There are always the basic questions: Where are you from? What’s your name? What do you do? Who are you here with? What are you doing later? ... so you can fill maybe a minute with those, but asking question after question gets creepy, and you end up looking just like this guy - one question after another - VIDEO. Those questions are bound to come up, and since you know she's going to ask you the exact same…
/r/seduction05/07/26 02:57 PM
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You see a lot of differences, but I say it's just the level of social skills and having the ability to read a person to know how far you can push it, an advanced guy is someone who knows more jokes or funny stories, he is more sociable, more open and friendlier... whereas a beginner struggles with those exact things. Nobody is truly a beginner; everyone is somewhere in the middle. There are guys who just need an opener (an excuse to talk to her), while other guys just need a push from behind (en…
/r/seduction05/07/26 09:46 AM
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I walked around bald because I suffered hair loss. RSD Tyler and other dating coaches did an experiment back in 2002 - 2003. They shaved their heads and the result was a shock because their success-to-rejection ratio stayed exactly the same, in other words, having a bald head made no difference at all.
/r/seduction04/07/26 09:57 PM
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But do you actually look like Austen Summers or Coach Kyle physically? There was a podcast on YouTube with Markus Wolf and Deepak Wayne, and Markus Wolf was completely delusional. He wasn't able to understand the struggles of guys who aren't handsome, while Deepak Wayne basically tried to explain it to a brick wall.
/r/seduction04/07/26 09:37 PM
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You need to be sociable, open, friendly, a cool guy... those are attractive traits and everyone wants to be around such a guy. Most of the guys I know are not like that, and in this case, if they are just themselves, failure is guaranteed. Someone who is naturally sociable, friendly, etc... that guy can be himself. He's in a different league, he has nothing to learn... but he won't understand how a guy can completely freeze up when he sees a girl... while for others, this is a real obstacle that…
/r/seduction04/07/26 09:13 PM
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I filmed several conversations with a spy cam and I put a few of them on reddit, but the purpose was not to show what a great PUA I am, but to show reality... those videos might be pointless to you, but others saw that a lot of what's taught on YouTube is full of shit and that you can achieve results without being a James Bond. Also keep in mind that my age, my height, body type, or my face don't help me at all, yet I'm not complaining, while I see guys here in their 20s, 6 feet tall, muscular, …
/r/seduction04/07/26 08:30 PM
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He analyzes what is happening in a movie?? That's a joke, it's a waste of time....
/r/seduction04/07/26 07:43 PM
1

They’ve never approached me just to get to know me, only to ask short, direct, and simple questions. And even that was years ago. Women don't approach men, and socially, they aren't expected to. If they did, they’d automatically be labeled as easy, but if they don't, they come across as intimidating. Their only option is to put themselves in positions that give you, the man, the opportunity to approach them (which is why pre-approach IOIs exist). Still, even that part is tricky, because you shou…
/r/seduction03/07/26 08:02 AM
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In Romania, if you give a compliment to someone you don't know on the street, you're either a player who does this often (which is not a good sign it’s seen as an intrusive uneducated gypsy attitude), or you're at the other extreme, a loner who stands there jaw-dropped when he sees a girl (and this isn't good either)... ..is a clear sign you want to talk to her, but you don't have anything creative to say... and the chance of rejection is huge right from the opener. Things change if she is actua…
/r/seduction02/07/26 09:51 PM
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There shouldn't be questions, but stories, you speak in such a way as to include a story. You learn 3-4 short stories that you pretend happened to you (there is no need to be a real story): - I remembered that once I was in... blah blah blah... [insert a funny story] - See that guy? He looks like a classmate who... [insert a funny story] - You say something that has nothing to do with reality, such as: 'Which finger do you wear a ring on on your left hand? I read on the internet that people who …
/r/seduction02/07/26 09:29 PM
1

You need to find the girls who want you but ... in this case you don't need "game", nothing..... you just need to be lucky finding those girls. However most of the time, a girl won't reject you straight away because they aren't wild or crazy. Out of politeness, they will talk to you, and this is exactly your chance to show her you’re a cool guy so things can escalate. But now you need skills, it's not about just saying whatever you want and hoping things go well... push-pull and cold reads are t…
/r/seduction02/07/26 06:54 AM
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Clavicular went to Paris a few days ago, but things didn't go as he expected. Even his fame didn't help him. Due to differences in culture and tradition, European girls are very different from the girls in Miami- VIDEO
/r/seduction30/06/26 09:38 AM
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I was going to say the same thing, but you beat me to it. Anyway, people on Reddit don't like hearing the truth they just want to hear their own fantasies. I bet these guys are under 20 because that generation is fucked, too proud to read and learn, but they also refuse to listen to anyone who actually knows what they're talking about.
/r/seduction29/06/26 08:28 PM
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It always depends on the girl's type, character, personality... Either you recognize them just by looking at them, because they possess certain characteristics (it's all about their vibe, just like you can instantly tell if a dog walking toward you wants to play or bite)... or another method which is easier, is to be where those women hang out (meaning low-key bars/clubs). Usually, these places are pretty well-known around town.... Do not be too picky and interesting things can happen, but think…
/r/seduction29/06/26 01:29 PM
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James Bond doesn't need an opener, he goes straight for the action.
/r/seduction29/06/26 09:13 AM
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I have no idea how to open a conversation. This is because there’s no actual reason to talk to a stranger, so obviously it feels awkward to approach someone. It must be something that happens in the moment that both of you notice, like a funny puppy, a long line you're both stuck in, or right now this hot weather... However, you can't wait forever for something to happen right then and there. It's better to just create a reason to talk to someone. Personally, I've noticed that most of the time t…
/r/seduction29/06/26 08:45 AM
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I knew guys doing it for 8, 12 and 17 hours a day. They have no idea what they are doing, they are not good at all. Normally, you just go about your business (shopping, going for a walk, meeting up with friends) and while doing that, you naturally cross paths with a girl. That's when you talk to her and get her number to escalate things later. You don’t have to spend hours on the street, you only do that if you want to film for YouTube and look for the perfect conversation to get views, but norm…
/r/seduction29/06/26 08:05 AM
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Where are you getting these ideas from? Why do you want to have a serious discussion? When you flirt and get a positive reaction, it's a green light to keep going and escalate, not to start getting serious.
/r/seduction29/06/26 07:57 AM
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The guys on this sub want to have a gf to hang out with, not become someone's gf in jail.
/r/seduction29/06/26 07:36 AM
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Thinking too much does exactly as much harm as not thinking at all.
/r/seduction28/06/26 02:52 PM
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Talk about common topics the same way you do with your friends, where everyone tells stories, makes jokes, and asks questions to find out what's new. However, as a backup plan, memorize 3–4 routines/gambits. Whenever you don't know what to say or is an awkward moment of silence, you can just drop a gambit. That easily solves your problem for about 10–15 minutes.
/r/seduction28/06/26 08:54 AM
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It depends on the girl's personality and her environment... you just have to find the right girl. The easiest way is to go where those girls hang out. For example, if you go to a local neighborhood bar/club where a certain type of girl goes, it’ll be easy to walk out of there with a girl on your arm (especially if you aren't picky). But if you go to a decent venue, the people there are different, and it's much harder to leave with someone. So, it's not fair to just brag about how many girls you'…
/r/seduction27/06/26 07:35 PM
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It depends on your starting point. For some guys, a massive milestone is just asking a girl where the nearest bus station is. For others, that's easy, so their milestone would be asking that same question to a really attractive girl or a group of girls. If that is also easy, the next milestone will be staying in the conversation for at least 3 minutes... This is how you build social skills, because without them, there's no way you can move forward.
/r/seduction27/06/26 06:44 PM
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I want to bang a ten, Any 7 or 8 with the right makeup can look like a 10... However, you're delusional, exactly like someone starting a business and thinking they'll become a millionaire in a month. It won't happen. You can dream, but nah... It's better to set milestones and be happy when a certain milestone is reached. You'll be happy more often than if you set a goal you'll never achieve.
/r/seduction27/06/26 06:29 PM
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It's just not a normal thing. If you look at the couples around you on the street, you rarely see a girl who is taller than the guy, it's probably like 1 in 100 cases. It draws too much unwanted attention, people constantly stare, make comments, joke about it...
/r/seduction27/06/26 04:10 PM
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For a stable relationship, the height difference sucks, but for a hookup, it's no problem. The attitude weighs a lot, it reminds me of this VIDEO
/r/seduction27/06/26 03:35 PM
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Wait, in your post you were saying you were done and had zero options, and now girls are actually checking you out? So which is it?
/r/seduction27/06/26 09:52 AM
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you don't "build attraction" it's either there or it's not. This is just a hustle. Every overnight PUA popping up on YouTube sells you that garbage just so they can push inner-game on you, and that’s exactly how you get trapped in a never-ending process. Something that should take you just a few days, will end up taking you months or even years, simply because they tell you your inner game is weak, you're not good enough, and you still need to work on yourself. Have you read the article written …
/r/seduction26/06/26 08:52 PM
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There are things you don't have and might never have, so what do you do then? For example, I don't go to the gym, but that doesn't stop me from keeping my back straight, my head up, and my chest out... I might not own a luxury designer suit, but that doesn't stop me from wearing a clean, basic t-shirt with total confidence. You don't need a million dollars in your bank account to walk into a room like you own the place.... and so on.... You don't need a crowd of women around you to act like a gu…
/r/seduction26/06/26 08:07 PM
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Abundance is a state of mind. Any seduction book explains this concept. Don't tell me you actually think that to have abundance you absolutely need to have 2 - 10 - 20 or whatever number of girlfriends?
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:44 PM
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I don't really have any friends to go to the bars with You don't even have to! But when you go, you need to have that vibe like you're waiting for some friends. Even if you talk to someone, you tell them you're waiting for your friends, because saying you're there by yourself looks really bad, only depressed people or alcoholics go out alone. Is it common for people to like meet women at bars and like hookup and even get laid later? It depends on the type of bar (or club). If you go to a local b…
/r/seduction26/06/26 06:55 PM
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I know, and that's why do exist this abundance mentality. It doesn't mean you actually need a roster of girlfriends or anything. Some guys take this term literally, which means they're completely missing the point.
/r/seduction26/06/26 05:19 PM
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Abundance mentality only means not being desperate... Is it really that hard to be like that?
/r/seduction26/06/26 03:27 PM
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So, you want to chase real abundance just so you can approach other girls later down the road? That's pure madness... You don't actually need to have "real abundance" because you're not a playboy or some VIP you're a normal person. However you do need to act like you have it, just to avoid looking like a desperate guy... that's all! Treat that abundance mentality as a metaphor to better understand it, not as a mandatory checklist IRL to be successful with girls.
/r/seduction26/06/26 03:12 PM
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Why can't you do both at the same time? Humans are multitasking just like Windows, it's not like you can't approach a girl on your way home just because you're done with work.
/r/seduction25/06/26 09:30 PM
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As a universal method, the easiest way is to tell her she looks familiar and drop an assumption, that’s where the conversation really starts. So, you simply use your "opener" + '"do you happen to work at XYZ bar?", "Are you the manager at XYZ bar?" When she says no, you make a joke: "Oh, then let me tell you... that bar sucks.... I was there the other night and some drunk guy fell right next to the door as I was walking past and started blaming it on the ghost of the bar... If you're not the man…
/r/seduction25/06/26 09:52 AM
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To me, saying "excuse me or sorry" and things like that shows good manners, not shyness....
/r/seduction25/06/26 09:10 AM
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"Hi" is used when you've seen her before. If it's the first time, you don't say "hi" anymore, you actually say "excuse me..." as a way of apologizing for interrupting whatever she's doing. That's the polite way to do it.
/r/seduction24/06/26 09:44 PM
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- In a store, it's really easy if you tell her "excuse me, 2 seconds, I left my glasses at home. How much is this?" I think it's the easiest method, and at the same time, it looks perfectly natural. - At the checkout area, sometimes I see a girl with a cart full of stuff, and I tell her "excuse me, I see you've completely filled up this cart... Is the apocalypse coming or something? I haven't seen the news today." It's not weird at all, people watching you talk to a girl will just think you alre…
/r/seduction24/06/26 09:38 PM
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A 25-minute drive is way too long, that's like 15 - 20 km, what the hell??? Ideally, it should be 10 minutes max.
/r/seduction24/06/26 07:01 PM
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Status and social proof are tricky things. Actually, you can be a complete nobody, but if you're dressed well and have a good attitude, you can bag a gold digger without even having money, or even being a good-looking guy. For instant social proof, sometimes when I'm out with a girl, I'll go to the bar to order. I pay ahead for the drinks, but at the same time, I actually order an extra one and tip the bartender to bring it over to our table in 5 minutes and say, "it's on the house" then I tell …
/r/seduction24/06/26 02:38 PM
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While you're on the first date, you need to make plans for the future: - I'll tell you what happened to me in XYZ next time - Have you ever been to XYZ? You have to join me next time I go there. - I know a place that has really good ice-cream/pizza/cake, let's put that on our list for next time.
/r/seduction24/06/26 02:17 PM
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At the end of the day, cash rules everything...
/r/seduction23/06/26 10:28 PM
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I’m curious whether others have gone through the same thing Oh yes! I know perfectly well what you’re saying. I got lucky twice, at first I came across Phil Heitlinger on YouTube and we look so much alike. At the time, I was one step away from being depressed, and meanwhile, someone who looked just like me was out there as a dating coach!!!! I was wft ??? I realized that despite us looking like brothers, his attitude was way more open, smiley and friendly. He came across as approachable, whereas…
/r/seduction23/06/26 09:44 PM
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Go to the other side of town where nobody knows you, that's the perfect spot... It would be crazy to move to another city. You move to improve your financial situation, not for girls. I live in a city with only 100k people in Romania. A few years ago, I divided the city into 5 regions and went to a new region each day, this means it takes 5 days for me to return to where I was 5 days ago.. .nobody even remembers me.
/r/seduction23/06/26 09:13 PM
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It depends on the girl you're talking to. You might run into a girl who already has everything she wants, so she doesn't care about money anymore, she just wants a partner who looks good. On the other hand, you might find one who is struggling financially, so she's looking for someone with money. Status belongs to "game", is an illusion... you can be a complete nobody, but if you're dressed well with good attitude and you act like a millionaire, you can bag a gold digger without even having mone…
/r/seduction23/06/26 09:02 PM
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I wouldn't say it's strictly about game, it mostly depends on the girl's personality, because if she’s not open to anything happening, it's not happening, no matter how good your game is.... Also the term of "game" is a super vague, people associate it with strong social skills, but that alone isn't enough. You need to be in the right place at the right moment, and this isn't just about being lucky, you need to know how to create your own luck and be able to read people the second you look at th…
/r/seduction23/06/26 08:55 PM
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John Cooper drew inspiration from RSD Tyler. He saw their success and used the same blueprint to criticize the Mystery Method... basically, the recipe was to take a massive, well-known product and create a new one just to prove the first one wrong. That’s exactly what’s happening on YouTube right now. Look at Bayne - he's the best example, he always acting like nobody knows anything and only his method is right. In the past, there was John Anthony, but his channel is gone now... yet there are st…
/r/seduction23/06/26 08:14 PM
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Seduction as a field has changed and developed a lot Nope! I asked AI what changed and all it gave me was BS because AI associates PUA with manipulation. that's just how it was trained. It can't even explain what actually changed. It's impossible to have a dialogue with it because the moment I reply, it just repeats the same nonsensical things from the beginning in the form of "YES but....." we're always going in circles. It just can't accept new ideas. But nothing has actually changed. And I'm …
/r/seduction23/06/26 07:57 PM
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I bet wherever you read about this benefit, they also explained the reasons why.
/r/seduction23/06/26 09:13 AM
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Have you tried just asking her for the information you want?
/r/seduction23/06/26 08:54 AM
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Once the relationship gets better, she won't do things like that anymore, but for now, it's perfectly normal.
/r/seduction22/06/26 05:32 PM
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I said a minute but actually you need to change your attitude the moment you get a positive reaction from her (like if she’s talkative, curious, asks questions, smiles) because if you keep acting indifferent for too long, she’s going to become indifferent too, and you'll end up losing her. You can act like you are not interested in her in a closed space like a bar, restaurant, patio, event because in such places you have time to run your "game" , there you will see her again because is a closed …
/r/seduction22/06/26 05:03 PM
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here is something about you not trying as hard that seems attractive. That's how everyone wants it, to put in zero effort and somehow have girls attracted to you... like James Bond in the movies. A little bit of indifference is needed, but only at the very beginning, like during the opener. It lasts for about a minute, and then you have to drop the act. Otherwise, the person you're talking to will notice you're not paying attention to them, and obviously, they'll pull away. Just be indifferent a…
/r/seduction21/06/26 09:26 PM
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On YouTube people want entertainment, not to watch boring conversation. Is very hard to find a realistic video because everything is exaggerated or staged just to grab views. A 5 minute staged video is always going to get more clicks than a real, quiet conversation. For a video to do well on YouTube, you need the girl to give you a super excited reaction, which honestly doesn't happen that often IRL. I've actually filmed a few videos with a spy cam, but I'm not comfortable putting myself out the…
/r/seduction21/06/26 06:40 PM
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I like that SILENCE move, is tricky because when you approach someone they often assume you must be someone they know, but they just can't remember you, and for this reason, she gets confused, frozen, shocked... and with silence you amplify exactly the same thing. The beginning is perfect, but stating your intent by telling her she’s cute or pretty right away is something I don't like becasuse in Romania where I am from, I've seen girls react to this with caution and suspicion, they assume you a…
/r/seduction21/06/26 12:29 PM
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It's fantastic how people know how to make simple things complicated.
/r/seduction20/06/26 04:14 PM
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When you have a certain social status, you don't argue or fight with anyone anymore, you handle things with class... you let others take care of your problems. I'm surprised such a simple gesture isn't understood, when in fact, it's your safety ticket in a venue where you don't know anyone and you're there all by yourself.
/r/seduction20/06/26 03:29 PM
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It's about precaution, sometimes you have to... I’m sure you don’t want some drunk guy bothering you while you’re talking to a girl.
/r/seduction20/06/26 08:31 AM
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It's about the double standard imposed by society. If you see a guy with a different girl every week, you'll call him cool but if you see a girl with a different guy every week, how is she perceived? Women know this, and that is precisely why a sane woman with a certain social status won't just mess around, because word gets around and reputation is very important for anyone. If the girl is of a different type, reputation or morality no longer bothers her those are the ones you need to find if y…
/r/seduction20/06/26 08:16 AM
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You just need go to the places where those kinds of girls hang out and things happen quickly... you don’t need any theory or game, you just need to be in the right place. Most of the time they will notice you before you notice them.... so hitting on them is super-easy. However no decent girl is going to do that... it will always be only a certain type of girls (I don't want to call them easy but it is what it is). Where do you find them? Well, tomorrow night, go to a club that isn't too fancy, y…
/r/seduction20/06/26 12:07 AM
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Negging, in the way Mystery described it, is meant to be a kind of joke, don't look up the word NEG in the dictionary, because that's not the right way to understand it. Sometimes a stand-up comedian will call an audience member up on stage, and that person might start telling their own jokes, trying to steal the show. What happens next? The comedian uses NEGS to make it clear that the audience member isn't the one in charge. It’s not an insult and it’s not an argument, the crowd sees it as just…
/r/seduction19/06/26 09:39 PM
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A very sane, well-put comment. You don’t see that around here very often 👍
/r/seduction19/06/26 09:20 PM
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whats the proper mindset? Don't be picky. Go to a club/bar that isn't too fancy. You'll find girls there who are below your level, and once you see with your own eyes that you're out of their league, you'll automatically gain confidence. It’ll be easy to approach them, in fact, they’ll notice you first, However, you'll run into some shady guys in those places, but you can easily avoid any trouble with one simple gesture. For example, when I go to certain spots in my city, I tip the bouncer to ma…
/r/seduction19/06/26 09:14 PM
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If you have questions, ask... I don't mind.
/r/seduction18/06/26 11:19 AM
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No I want another drink that was a shit test. That's not a shit test! It’s a clear invitation that she wants "something else"... A woman talking to you and telling you she needs a drink? That’s gold! However, OP said, 'We get a couple of drinks there (I don't pay for hers).' he was afraid to pay either having no money or following some psycho advice. It isn't recommended to pay for a girl and then expect her to spend the evening with you just for that reason, but in this case, things are differe…
/r/seduction18/06/26 09:53 AM
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Eastern Europe... where from exactly? I'm from Romania, that's why I ask.
/r/seduction17/06/26 04:59 PM
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Why would you do that?
/r/seduction17/06/26 04:54 PM
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But you didn't answer your own question: "what do you say to her?" because as you said you don't want to sound stupid and you don't want to get rejected..... so what do you say to her ?
/r/seduction17/06/26 03:33 PM
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I thought I had found someone who would clarify that in 2026 there is some new, unknown seduction method but even this idea of not to be obsessed with details was already being taught by RSD Tyler back in 2006.... so there is nothing new under the sun.
/r/seduction16/06/26 04:50 PM
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Initially, you said that the advice from 2005 is no longer working in 2026, but... that's far from true. In 2026, just as in 2005 and even before, you still need an opener + transition + vibe (which includes DHV, jokes, funny stories, push-pull, qualifying, etc.), nothing has changed. Of course, in 2005 one might say it was harder than in 1990, and in 1990 it was harder than in 1970, just as you are saying now that in 2026 it’s harder than in 2005.... But if you analyze everything for five minut…
/r/seduction16/06/26 04:32 PM
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And why the things said in 2005 regarding how to approach a girl won't work in 2026 (or are those pieces of advice a scam, as you said?) - She has headphones on? Use sign language. Simply stay or walk directly in her path and instinctively she'll look at you, that's the moment when you need to wave at her. It's a very simple method to get her to stop and look at you. - I have never heard of a guy being arrested just for approaching a girl, especially if he follows the Ross Jeffries advice: "leav…
/r/seduction16/06/26 03:30 PM
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Why not just look where those kinds of girls actually hang out? Instead of testing your luck randomly on the street, you could just go to specific neighborhoods or venues known for that crowd. You’d likely solve the problem in just a few approaches, especially if you are not picky.
/r/seduction16/06/26 09:03 AM
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That's exactly why I asked... what is different?
/r/seduction16/06/26 08:38 AM
3

Outside of technology, what’s different now compared to 2005?
/r/seduction15/06/26 10:13 PM
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Mate, I think you misspelled your title. You wrote 15 YEARS but I think you meant days or hours in the field.
/r/seduction15/06/26 10:10 PM
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Where are his infield videos showing him practicing what he preaches?
/r/seduction15/06/26 09:47 PM
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Don’t just stand there, get in her path, As she gets closer, she’ll instinctively look at you (be prepared for eye-contact) and give her a wave. Now that she’s stopped, you need an opener + transition...
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:45 PM
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- Beautiful women are taken. - Average looking girls get hit on so much that they start thinking they’re 10s and believe they deserve a better looking guy, they’re delusional. Better not to overthink it, you won't like how it ends.
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:36 PM
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Which type of places gave you the highest success rate? Any supermarket (lidl, kaufland, carefour...)
/r/seduction15/06/26 06:30 PM
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What other theories do you need to read? There aren't any. What you actually need is an approach system to make things easier for yourself. Let me give you an example I used to use and honestly, I still use it sometimes because it’s just so simple. I have a leather bracelet with a skull charm on my right wrist. When I see a girl I want to approach, I loosen the knot and then pretend I'm struggling to tie it back with my left hand. I go up to her and say: "excuse me, 2 seconds... could you help m…
/r/seduction14/06/26 06:24 PM
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You said you know your theory, but then you say 'I'm not a good conversationalist'... It sounds like the problem isn't the theory, but the fact that you still don't know what to say in the moment... am I right ? However, I saw you mention "1000 approaches" where did you even read that? Whoever said that was either exaggerating just to show how hard it is, or they were just joking and you took them seriously. Or, it's possible that's just the only way they know how to do it... but honestly, that’…
/r/seduction14/06/26 05:01 PM
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I found a video of a guy using this interview mode - VIDEO - as you see is very cringe, it's not a normal way to behave. Of course it's better than nothing, but it’s not recommended because there are other ways to make a conversation nice and pleasant. Most girls are NEUTRAL (they don't like you, but they don't reject you immediately either), this is the starting point you need to work from, not the idea that she likes you and you can say anything, or that she’ll reject you immediately and you’r…
/r/seduction14/06/26 01:47 PM
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What about the undecided women (someone who is neither into you nor rejecting you)? The ones who are just talking to you out of politeness ? This happens most of the time and here is where you need to use GAME, because they will see a guy who feels good, is positive, optimistic, playful, and makes jokes. All these traits are attractive, so wouldn't these things make her want to see you again? Alex Hormozi once said that you don’t get rich by having a product and only trying to sell it to people …
/r/seduction10/06/26 01:01 PM
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If you’re reasonably handsome women actually come to your line/close to you and make sure you notice them. I'm not that lucky, if you look at Phil Heitlinger, we look like brothers, but he's 160 cm tall while I'm 170 cm, so the height doesn't help me at all, and neither does my round face, not even my age, because I'm 48. Yet, I don't complain. In a store, when I see a woman choosing something from a shelf, I like this opener: 'Excuse me, I left my glasses at home, what’s the price on this?' - v…
/r/seduction09/06/26 09:50 PM
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Again, I see people talking in extremes, and extremes are never good. In your case, claiming you have no experience doesn't look good either, you're basically shooting yourself in the foot. It makes people wonder: 'Why haven't you had a girlfriend until now? Why are girls avoiding you? What’s wrong with you?' On the other hand, if you go to the opposite extreme, other questions come up: 'If you’re that experienced, you’ll just dump me the second you find someone else. What kind of person switche…
/r/seduction09/06/26 09:25 PM
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When chatting with AI it mentioned more “natural” AI is trained to always give only moral replies, so obviously, it’s not going to back up that PUA-style cold approach stuff. It’s always gonna be like: that’s not cool, it’s invasive, that’s outdated... it suports the "natural" philosophy, which basically just means you have to sit around and wait for life to magically drop a woman in your lap because, apparently, actually making a move is considered immoral or unnatural, you are trying too hard.…
/r/seduction09/06/26 09:10 PM
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Try the "cheers" opener, it’s honestly one of the easiest ways to start a conversation. Just keep a drink in your hand, and the second you catch her looking your way, give her a quick "cheers" gesture with your glass /bottle. Then, just walk right over. You’ve already broken the ice, so you can easily start a conversation telling her how much you like what you drink or, ask what she’s drinking (if she drinks something) or why she’s not drinking (is she a pilot and she needs to be sober?) the sky…
/r/seduction09/06/26 08:35 AM
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I don't see how talking about women should be a numbers game. Let's say you're walking down the street, and out of all the women you see, only one is single and looking for a relationship. You don't know who she is, it could be anyone... so, as a man, what do you do? You treat it like a lottery... you approach one woman, then another, then the next 10 times... 50 times... 100 times... until you find the right person. Honestly, it’s not as crazy as it sounds. Once you learn to read the room and s…
/r/seduction08/06/26 04:25 PM
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Try asking Lebron how many games he won. He doesn't know, he just loves playing. He does those things automatically, like a machine, whereas sleeping with a woman is not the same, you spend time with each interaction, you date her for a period of time (probably 1-2 weeks or even a month or more).
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:37 AM
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Before a date, you talk to her about what she likes. Does she like cake? Perfect, "let's meet to eat a cake". To take her home there always needs to be an innocent reason, and it also needs to be something quick (it takes 5 minutes). - Is it during the day? Then I go home to change my T-shirt/sneakers, or I forgot my ID or card at home... When this happens, things only escalate if she gives a sign, otherwise, leave it. Once, I told her I was going to wash my hands, but when I came back into the …
/r/seduction07/06/26 09:14 PM
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but she doesnt have much respect for him because he simply doesn’t have the balls to just say it That's stupid! Right, she doesn't know in the first few seconds what you want, but she will find out 30 seconds later... so... why is it such a tragedy? See the nonsense? keeping it short (1-2 minutes) then arranging the date. After 1–2 minutes you are still a stranger; she doesn't know anything about you, so why would she go on a date?
/r/seduction07/06/26 07:30 PM
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I gave bar as an example, but that trick of standing with your back to her works everywhere: maybe at a bus stop, maybe in another location, maybe 5–10 seconds is enough, you don't really need 1-2 minutes like in a bar.... The idea is to create a reason to talk to her.
/r/seduction07/06/26 05:07 PM
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In a closed space, like a bar for example, apply method 2, simply sit down with your back to her and, after 1-2 minutes, apologize to her. You have no idea how simple this method is. Does she leave within those 1-2 minutes? No problem, move on to the next one, use the same method... does she leave too? The next one. Does she leave as well? By now you are probably sweaty and stink, but the chances of being that unlucky three times in a row are slim.
/r/seduction07/06/26 04:32 PM
1

So you assume you will get rejection after rejection, but you don't approach every woman blindly, there are small cues you need to take into consideration. When you look at a girl, you can tell by the way she walks whether she is heading somewhere specific or just strolling to pass the time. You can also sense if she is anxious or relaxed, whether she looks at people or stays closed off. In a bar, you can also see if she is positioned to draw attention or is more reserved. It’s never 100% certai…
/r/seduction07/06/26 04:15 PM
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Leave. The biggest mistake is to keep going when there are clear signs that she isn't interested. Of course, there are always exceptions, and it could happen that she is just playing hard to get, but that’s usually not how it is. You are giving her the opportunity to talk to you, if she refuses and shows no signs that she wants to talk --> NEXT
/r/seduction07/06/26 03:53 PM
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And what would you do in such a situation? Method 1 (approach anyway): Just say the magic words: "excuse me" that will make them look at you 100% of the time.... next is an opener + transition.... Method 2: Simply walk up near the person you want to talk to for 1-2 minutes (pretending you’re not interested in her). After a minute or two, say, 'Excuse me, I’ve been standing here with my back to you... oh, how rude of me... blah blah blah.' This seems easier, it alredy contains an opener + transti…
/r/seduction07/06/26 12:35 PM
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It’s one thing if you're living in the West, but it's a completely different situation if you're based in Asia or middle orient + the timeframe ( it’s a very different situation if this happened over 5–10 years vs just 1–2 years). I’m also curious about how you met them, was it a cold approach, through mutual friends, or online (did they basically choose you)?
/r/seduction07/06/26 10:28 AM
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In which country and in what timeframe? How did you meet them?
/r/seduction06/06/26 10:29 PM
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i'm not counting Usually, this means ZERO because I remember each one (34 different women in 6 years, 18 - 50 yo. Actually, I remember even their faces and in some cases even some details, and I'm pretty sure if I met them in the city, I would recognize them)
/r/seduction06/06/26 10:26 PM
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I would spend hours looking in the mirror, seeing how my smile looked, and changing it How were you able to change your physiognomy? I can change my voice tonality deeper Without surgery on the vocal cords?
/r/seduction06/06/26 10:18 PM
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Looks alone won't tell you anything but you can pretty much tell from the other things: the way someone walks whether they’re heading somewhere specific or just strolling to pass the time. You can also sense if they’re anxious or relaxed., whether they look at people or stay closed off... + the way they're dressed, all these things say a lot about them before they even say a word. Of course, there will be cases where you won't be right, but it doesn't matter. Instead of hitting on everything tha…
/r/seduction06/06/26 07:01 PM
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No, don't approach if you don't want to talk to her. Yes, if you want to talk to her but in this case make things easier and don't mention "I saw you were checking me out" simply because if she is a shy person, she will take things too seriously and it won't be the funny vibe you'd expect. Go with something neutral and light, and improvise as you go. Or they're interested but not confident enough to even have a eye contact with me so they start looking somewhere else. + Or they're simply looking…
/r/seduction05/06/26 08:45 AM
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You said that you need volume, so by volume I mean 100, 500, maybe even 1000 women. For me, in Romania, the closest city with 300k people is 300km away, see the irony? Since I barely have 100k people where I live, I had to use a specific approach model based on indirect openers, paying closer attention to IOI/IOD signs and the reaction I get after an opener, I can't even say it's volume, because with proper calibration I barely hit on 20–30 women to be lucky. Talking about a volume is an insane …
/r/seduction04/06/26 10:13 PM
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Hard to believe. I mean, you don't like a gorgeous girl on the street just because you don't know her? Naaah... fat chance.
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:51 PM
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It’s all about looks, do you like what you see? If yes, that’s what matters. You don't like her personality? NEXT! However, the chances are very low (under 1%) that you’ll find a girl and actually say you don't like her personality (that's an excuse only girls use).
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:42 PM
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Most people live in small towns, and in places like that, you can't just approach everything that moves. Even I live in a city with only 100k inhabitants and I recognize the faces in my neighborhood, so I have to go to another part of town. It is indeed a numbers game, but that doesn't mean you need to approach 100- 500 - 1000 women that’s pure madness.
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:37 PM
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Why would you hide your comments? If you find the answer, you'll realize why others do it too.
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:23 PM
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Is it ever ok to approach a woman and walk away during the conversation if she’s obviously disinterested? Of course! You don't just stand there trying to force a conversation, it's really tough and it makes you look bad. If you see she's not interested, you just hit her with a False Time Constraint and walk away. With a FTC, you can leave whenever you want without being rude... that's the beauty of it.
/r/seduction03/06/26 03:45 PM
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Just thank them for their time and leave. The old-school PUAs also debated this problem, which is how they came up with the False Time Constraint. It's the easiest way to leave whenever you want: "I need to go meet up with my friends...”
/r/seduction03/06/26 03:38 PM
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you need something adaptive to this day and age…. There’s nothing new in the way people talk to each other nowadays, unless you're talking about technology, AI, computers, science... Hard to believe? Look up the book "How to Pick Up Girls" by Eric Weber, written in 1970. Once you read it, you'll see that even now in 2026 nothing has changed...there are just new teachers / gurus repackaging the same concepts in different boxes.
/r/seduction03/06/26 07:39 AM
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I don't really like the charger opener, however, you can make it playful: 'Yeah... I'm not surprised. You guys are zero help, but you look cool...I'm curious though, are you sisters?" - now you have a conversation. However, it depends on the reaction you get. You won't force a conversation if you get just a short and cold "no" answer after this question... just leave, it is what it is.
/r/seduction02/06/26 06:11 PM
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An indirect openers means having something to say right after the opener... it’s basically 'opener + transition'....What is your transition if they say 'NO'? It looks like you don't have a transition for that, so in this case, it's better not to use the charger opener.
/r/seduction02/06/26 05:24 PM
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but what if none of them are looking at me Make them look at you. You see a girl coming towards you, and you walk straight toward her, directly in her path. As she gets closer, she will instinctively look at you. That’s the moment you stop, keep eye contact and deliver an opener, it’s a very simple sequence of movements. Another method is simply telling her the magic words: 'Excuse me.' With this, it’s guaranteed she will look at you... unless she's deaf and can't hear you. are talking among the…
/r/seduction02/06/26 05:00 PM
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The good thing is that people are different, they have different personalities and characters, and this means that for certain 18-22 girls, age doesn't matter at all. You need to be the right man at the right place, meaning going to lower-level venues (I guess you know a few places like this in your city), and very importantly, don't be picky because in such places, you will only find a certain type of women, it's clear that a decent woman with her head on her shoulders will not enter such a ven…
/r/seduction02/06/26 09:23 AM
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Honestly never tell a woman that you weren’t listening because you were checking her out. Why not? It's a joke like any other, but it's actually a very good one because it's combined with a subtle compliment without explicitly giving her a compliment. Of course, you say this joke after she is hooked or if there are strong IOI signs “Natural game” is a concept created by lazy or incompetent dating coaches who tell you not to learn anything and just be yourself, no jokes, no concepts, no methods, …
/r/seduction01/06/26 11:38 PM
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Don't bother with your voice, it is what it is. You can change it with vocal cord surgery, but is it really worth it? Look at this VIDEO. (I filmed it with a spycam in Ukraine when the war started.). Do I have a strong, deep, masculine voice? Not even close! And honestly, it doesn't even matter. Anyone telling you otherwise is either messing with you or trying to sell you coaching or self-improvement programs.
/r/seduction01/06/26 09:16 AM
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Everything that functions in extremes is a bad thing. We have: bad boys vs. nice guys, abundance mindset vs. scarcity mindset, high value vs. low value, investment vs. non-investment, validation-seeking vs. self-validated, alpha male vs. beta male... and so on and so forth. It's always a leap from one extreme to another, but nobody tells you that both extremes are bad. In reality, you just need a balance of those things. Stand in the middle, and you can get rid of all the concepts promoted in se…
/r/seduction01/06/26 08:48 AM
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Hit up any low-end venue on the edge of town where a specific crowd of girls goes, and everything moves super fast and easy. But if you have higher standards, things get complicated, it’s no longer quick or easy. You can't expect things to move fast and then claim you met a classy girl. She's not classy, she's just easy. What's the time frame from approaching to getting her in bed? From the moment you meet a girl until something actually happens between you, a decent timeframe is about a week or…
/r/seduction31/05/26 09:05 PM
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I don't know how old you are, what you're reading, or what movies you're watching, because I honestly can't believe ideas like the one in your second example actually exist. The thing is, you're not alone, there are tons of guys like this here on Reddit. I don't know what you guys are doing. Is it some kind of competition where you encourage each other to come up with the dumbest ideas possible, or what's going on? Is this an inside joke on Reddit that I completely missed?
/r/seduction31/05/26 08:53 PM
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stop trying to add new techniques to your arsenal. Basically, what you're trying to say is that you don't need to learn anything, just 'be yourself,' say whatever you want, go to the gym, do boxing, karate, or MMA to boost your confidence, be a man with deep strong voice...etc etc right? Wrong as hell. I don't know when these ideas will finally die out. Just when they disappear, someone else pops up with the exact same mindset, and the whole cycle starts all over again.
/r/seduction31/05/26 08:46 PM
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Which one goes first? It doesn't matter which one comes first, the idea is to put together two contradictory things. It's so hard to know when to push and when to pull... It's very simple because it's a phrase that combines both elements. When do you use it? Only when she is HOOKED, but not just randomly. You should use it if you've given her too many compliments or realize you’ve been too pushy, you need a way to balance things out, and that's when you bring in a push-pull. It also works if you…
/r/seduction30/05/26 11:01 PM
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Think of a computer game. To win and clear a level, you don't just wing it, you need strategy and skill. It's the exact same thing in seduction: it's not just saying 'hello' and seeing what happens. Instead, you need to know how to tell jokes, share interesting stories, and make the other person feel good around you. That way, you make her want to spend time with you, because she understands you're a cool person through your jokes and attitude.
/r/seduction30/05/26 01:59 PM
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There was an old thread about this but it's 7yrs old lots has changed. What exactly has changed besides technology? Online dating changed because there are more dating apps now, but IRL nothing has. Read the book "How to Pick Up Girls" by Eric Weber, written in 1970 you'll see that 50+ years have passed and nothing has changed. To find what you're looking for, we need to know what your goal is. I can't tell you what's the best system because people are different. Instead, write about the problem…
/r/seduction30/05/26 10:40 AM
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A lot of guys try the mystery method and find it’s too robotic trying to run their routines. Anyone who thinks the Mystery Method is robotic has a fundamental misunderstanding of the system, because there’s nothing robotic about it. It simply explains social dynamics, how a man talks to a woman to escalate things and how flirting works. Many of the routines are actually just filler. In other words, when you're talking to a woman, awkward silences happen and it doesn't look good, so you use 2-5 r…
/r/seduction30/05/26 10:17 AM
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It's usually better to just be cool. Todd V says the same thing, but instead of just telling you to 'be cool,' he explains HOW to be cool and WHAT to do and say to achieve it. It's like if someone says 'I'm hungry' and you just tell them to eat something, whereas Todd V actually gives them the recipe for an omelet, a beef soup, and meat with potatoes He'll break them up into a thousand micro-steps Most of the things he says can be done in a second, just like driving a car: you need to pay attent…
/r/seduction30/05/26 09:53 AM
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Try to understand what I'm saying and why I'm saying it. The other option, if you don't do what I suggested, is approaching her in a store. Is that not creepy? Maybe not to you, but for the girl who has to talk to you with the cashier and everyone else overhearing everything? If she gives you her number, she looks easy to everyone watching but no sane girl on this earth wants to look easy. If she tries to get rid of you by lying about a boyfriend, you don't get the number anyway. Whichever way y…
/r/seduction30/05/26 09:17 AM
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Do you really believe she will take your answer seriously? Come on mate! It's just a filler to pass the time, nothing more. Turn it into a joke: "If she has beautiful eyes (big ass, long legs, deep cleavage etc) because it completely distracts me from whatever she's saying... My red flag? I get distracted way too easily.. if you have big ass/deap cleavage/long legs don't expect me to remember anything you said."
/r/seduction29/05/26 10:34 PM
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What kind of NO are we talking about? There’s the "go fuck off" type, or it could be a playful "no, I don't know, hihihi" or just a literal "no, I’m not from around here".... so the conversation is dynamic and depends on the reaction you get. It’ll always be a "NO + a reaction" which gives you something to comment on: - Assuming it's a cold and quick "no" (the worst-case scenario), it's a clear sign of disinterest. It is what it is; let her go. It makes no sense to try and keep the conversation …
/r/seduction29/05/26 09:06 PM
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Excuse me... does this sidewalk actually lead anywhere, or am I just walking in a very straight circle?
/r/seduction29/05/26 12:13 PM
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If you do as you say and use a direct opener, yes, it takes balls. But why do it the hard way when you can make it easier? With an indirect opener, you don't even need balls because everything just flows smoothly.
/r/seduction29/05/26 11:55 AM
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The only window I find it when she is walking between the stores. It depends on the store, you just go in to make eye contact. Then you step outside and wait for her there. The moment she walks out, it's very easy to approach her because there are a few common topics you can talk about. The idea is to use an indirect opener and build from there, depending on the reaction you get. Either she gives you a positive reaction/answer (at which point you can keep going), or she answers but looks like sh…
/r/seduction29/05/26 10:47 AM
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By that logic, I could say that Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Eskimos etc., are really sexy if I only look at a handful of them. It’s totally normal... it’s all about genetics (you're born with it), whereas others aren't as lucky and can’t really do much to change how they look (plastic surgery is super expensive). Does a beard make a man look masculine and attractive? For some, yes; for others, no. It all comes down to hair density, volume, face shape, and so on.... Look at the bigger picture, don…
/r/seduction29/05/26 07:51 AM
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Honestly, I've never heard anyone say, 'I know so many openers and routines that I don't know which one to choose when I want to approach a girl'... instead, it’s always the opposite. Guys are always like, 'What the hell am I supposed to say to that girl to start a conversation?' So the problem isn't overthinking because they know too much, it’s a total lack of knowledge that puts the brakes on them.
/r/seduction28/05/26 08:02 PM
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There are all sorts of exercises to test your fear/anxiety level. Sure, it's not a professional diagnosis, but it's pretty accurate. That’s my point, there are plenty of progressive exercises designed to crush that fear/anxiety. Neil Strauss wrote a great book, something called 30 day challenge, it's perfect for dealing with anxiety. No healthy eating, no gym, nothing like that just straight to the root of the problem. Initially you said "Over the past few years I have consumed everything about …
/r/seduction28/05/26 07:43 PM
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Some books are written specifically to show you how to beat fear... All it takes is choosing a book that fixes that issue, and that's it... it only takes a few days, or maybe a month in severe cases. If it takes longer than a month, then it's better to talk to a therapist.
/r/seduction28/05/26 07:16 PM
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You said "Over the past few years I have consumed everything about getting women" + "The thought of going on dating apps terrified me. Going up to a girl was unthinkable." In other words, it means you understood absolutely nothing zero, zilch, nada from those books.
/r/seduction28/05/26 06:41 PM
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cold approaching is creepy, It’s only creepy if you do it in a creepy way, without taking social cues into consideration and doing it at the worst possible moments: when she's eating, in a rush, in the gym, or hanging out with another guy (a boyfriend, brother, husband, parent)... basically when a simple approach become a challange. The guys who blindly copy what they see on YouTube will complain that 'cold approach doesn't work.' Ironically, they have another solution: 'it's a numbers game,' so…
/r/seduction28/05/26 09:10 AM
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She likes you as you are right now, so why change or say stuff just for the sake of it because you read it somewhere? It's obvious it already works without any of that extra gimmicks.
/r/seduction27/05/26 08:51 AM
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I'm wondering how the "just go to x, in this country is easier" type of advice would work for people that already live there lol. This is based on the idea that if you move to a new place where nobody knows you, you can become a completely different person, like becoming more open, friendlier, and more confident... But the reality is, this doesn't happen overnight. It’s just a temporary adrenaline spike that eventually fades, and later on, you end up being the exact same person you were before y…
/r/seduction26/05/26 10:18 PM
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It's never a good idea to speak in extremes, most of the time, extremes are the worst approach. - Having no expectations becomes a "whatever, let's just see what happens" attitude. You're basically just messing around, but girls notice that vibe instantly, it’s a turn-off. - Having high expectations means you feel like 'she has to like me,' which puts way too much pressure on her, and that fails too. Your mindset shouldn't be "let's just see what happens," but rather: "I’m a friendly guy who tal…
/r/seduction26/05/26 05:43 PM
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I don't know where things turn backward If someone feels good around you, laughs, jokes, looks at you, contributes to the conversation, the chances of seeing them again are really high. However, you might get some positive reactions just because they want to keep up appearances and avoid being rude, rather than out of genuine interest... you need to pay more attention to her. So you need to read the room and figure out if the person you're talking to is genuinely friendly and talkative, or if it…
/r/seduction26/05/26 04:11 PM
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Don’t really see that many women throughout the week. If you leave the house and go for a walk, it is impossible for this to happen I’m not really sure how to naturally go up to a woman at the gym. You don't do this inside the gym, but rather outside... Inside, you just make eye contact and walk away... You wait for her outside, and at that point, it’s theoretically easy to approach her because she recognizes you, you have something in common to talk about, and there’s a really good chance she’l…
/r/seduction25/05/26 08:12 PM
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Your explanation is even worse. So aim to be personable but 'don't try to be someone you're not'... how can you even do that? Isn't there a clear contradiction here? To become a likable person, logically, I have to change and do certain things that I wouldn't normally do. Otherwise, how am I supposed to become personable? Learning 3-4 jokes + using a few concepts that make you a likable person doesn't mean you are trying to be someone you are not. It's pure craziness to believe something like th…
/r/seduction25/05/26 06:58 AM
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Skip the “flirty” routine .... and ..... what do you do if you get positive reactions (she is clearly hooked) if you said to skip the 'flirty' routines? It is not possible to skip them. If we look at a timeline, then at the beginning you tell her whatever simple thing you gave as an example and build from there, but the moment she is hooked, all the flirty techniques will appear because it's not possible to make progress without flirting methods: push-pull, qualify/disqualify, negging, jokes, fu…
/r/seduction24/05/26 10:23 PM
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You need to read and reread sentences or paragraphs to fully understand it No, do not reread paragraphs because you will find a lot of contradictions. In one place it said that you don't need to make the girl laugh because you are not a clown, but later in the book he explains how important humor is when talking to a woman. He even mocks people for using a texting script, and guess what, on the very next page, the author clearly says, 'I will give you my texting script'... so... figure that out …
/r/seduction24/05/26 10:11 PM
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some PUA's have even been jailed for it) I don't know anyone who got into trouble just for a cold approach. I do, however, know a few guys who did other things and ended up in prison, that's what happens when you don't know when to stop.
/r/seduction24/05/26 08:52 PM
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If someone is short and ugly and old for example, and he's only approaching super hot 18 year olds for example, he could have the best 'game' on planet earth, and he will 100% get rejected almost non stop. It depends on the type of girl he approaches. If he goes to a casual, low-key neighborhood spot, all that matters there is dressing decently and having some money in your pocket, you just need to be in the right place at the right time. If you have high standards and want an 18 yo girl who is …
/r/seduction24/05/26 03:38 PM
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Hook point means the moment she is interested in you, when she becomes curious about you, asks questions, becomes talkative, looks at you - you can understand what I mean if you watch this VIDEO - here you can see that after I asked a simple question, the woman started to become curious, smiley, talkative.... From this point on, I let another 1, maximum 2 minutes pass, only now can I use a push-pull, a qualify, a nastier joke, a DHV, a compliance ladder, kino escalation... everything that exists…
/r/seduction24/05/26 01:38 PM
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Wrong move! You should ONLY use push-pull or similar techniques after she's hooked or showing solid IOIs. Otherwise, she doesn't care about your opinion, you're a total stranger she feels zero attraction toward. So why would she care about a push-pull or a DHV, qualify/disqualify?
/r/seduction24/05/26 11:30 AM
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I introduced some push-pull When and why during a conversation?
/r/seduction24/05/26 07:40 AM
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Depends on who you ask. To some it matters, to others it doesn't. But this is about you, are you comfortable in your own skin when you're alone? If you aren't comfortable with it, then it's clear you're going to have major issues being single. I’ve been single many times, but I ALWAYS gave off the impression that I was waiting for someone. I never had that cowboy attitude, the type who walks into a saloon all by himself, orders a drink, and just sits at the table, lost in his own world.
/r/seduction22/05/26 09:02 PM
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Make me understand what you mean. You said that initially you made a change and started boxing, climbing, etc. Then, you said you were 'just really being myself'. But you are not being your old self, because your past self hadn't done boxing, climbing, or anything like that. So it's not you, it's a new you. Saying that 'just being yourself' is a recipe for success doesn't work, unless that 'yourself' is already a likable person.... the moment you make a change, you are no longer yourself... see …
/r/seduction22/05/26 08:37 PM
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It’s just a simple game, you shouldn't take it as anything serious or psychological. It’s literally just something you do when you're talking to someone and want to pass the time. this thing helped someone to flirt? Of course! Lately, I’ve been making up all kinds of silly stuff like: "Is your ring finger longer than your index finger? (it gives me a reason to actually take her hand to compare the lengths).... that means... you prefer wine over juice." (of course it's complete nonsense, but it d…
/r/seduction22/05/26 05:30 PM
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What about THIS or THIS ... ?
/r/seduction22/05/26 08:05 AM
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Who cares if she put whatever random level of threshold of "effort" she put into her look? Her! The woman you're approaching, she sees that you're giving a compliment when it's clearly not deserved. From that point on, she sees that you're full of shit just to strike up a conversation. Countless times I’ve seen female coworkers complimenting each other, but only when it was actually deserved: "your eyebrows look so beautiful, you styled your hair so nicely, you did your nails so well..." learn s…
/r/seduction22/05/26 07:48 AM
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You don't even realize what a stupid thing you just said. Initially you said "I started being more aggressive in my life" so it makes no sense saying "being myself." The real you was not, as you put it, you made changed "I started boxing, climbing, exploring abandoned places, being more proactive in doing stuff, going up to girls and just random people in the street"... However, these things have 1% to do with seduction. You don't need to do so many things just to talk to a girl on the street, t…
/r/seduction22/05/26 07:35 AM
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Indirect means being indirect for 30 seconds, it doesn't mean that after 2–5 minutes I'm still talking about the street I'm looking for. You only keep going if you see it's worth it otherwise, you just leave, it's that simple. IRL it looks like this VIDEO if I see she is interested in talking I keep talking VIDEO (here you see how she become talkative and curious) otherwise, I just leave VIDEO. Anyone can do the same, you don't need crazy confidence, boldness, keeping eye contact, a deep voice, …
/r/seduction21/05/26 07:23 PM
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does flirting (game) actually make a girl want you? You said that flirting means "push-pull, breaking rapport, disqualifying, teasing, playful cold reads"..... but besides those things, there is also the "compliance ladder and kino escalation" Even if she isn't into the guy at first, if you get nothing but positive reactions to all of the above things, it will eventually get you into a room alone with her because everything is deisnged to push things in that direction.
/r/seduction21/05/26 03:49 PM
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The key is an indirect opener. You simply start a random conversation and then, based on her reaction, you either continue or walk away - Do you get a positive reaction? Perfect! Now you comment on her reaction, you make a joke, etc., etc., and only now can you give her a sign that you like her and want to get to know her better. - Do you get a negative reaction? "Have a nice day" and move on, there's no need to stay in a place where you're not welcome. When talking to someone, in 2-3 seconds yo…
/r/seduction21/05/26 10:23 AM
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"women should earn compliments" like wtf dude??? It refers to the fact that you can clearly tell she put effort into her look. That’s something you see when going out to a venue, or on a weekend evening when they hit a spot When a woman is coming from work or running errands, she usually won't be wearing anything flashy or anything that stands out, it's obvious she didn't put any effort into her look... and right at that moment, a guy shows up and says, "I like your style." How does that look?
/r/seduction21/05/26 09:33 AM
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You can't improve your physical appearance because In many cases, it all comes down to genetics: you're short, you have a head as round as a basketball, a certain physical build, you have asymetrical face, small lips etc etc Changing these things would require a ton of plastic surgeries, which just isn't worth it only to be handsome, it's also incredibly expensive. A guy who looks like that will have to use a completely different approach when it comes to women, there are no shortcuts. If you tr…
/r/seduction21/05/26 07:42 AM
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- Why it was need to say "Me: I was walking by and saw you here, and I think youre cute" instead of directly asking: "What book are you reading, I see you have a kindle" ? - Why would you say "Can I grab your number and take you out to coffee sometime, maybe over here at this cafe." when the interaction went terribly? Do you want to repeat that awkwardness? Of course not, it makes zero sense. You ONLY ask if the other person is HOOKED and things are going great. Otherwise, it’s pointless, even i…
/r/seduction20/05/26 06:59 PM
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The rules are the same for all men This picture is a simple example that pretty much explains your whole theory away --> CLICK HERE
/r/seduction20/05/26 08:39 AM
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What does a short answer followed by silence look like? It's another way of saying "you're not giving me XYZ? Then I'm done talking to you." Isn't it childish? That doesn't show indifference, it shows frustration.
/r/seduction18/05/26 07:47 AM
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When there are people around who can hear you, you're putting yourself in a situation where the chances of getting rejected are extremely high. The girl knows that if she accepts your advances, the other people watching and listening will automatically label her an 'easy woman' and obviously no girl wants that to happen to her. You probably weren't expecting this kind of answer, especially when everyone else tells you to go shoot your shot no matter what, but it's good to be realistic sometimes …
/r/seduction17/05/26 07:50 PM
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Those messages are just a polite way of saying you’re not who they thought you'd be... It’s not that it ruins your day, it’s simply a polite way to let you know there’s nothing between you two. How do you reply? Try to stay detached, make it look like it doesn't phase you at all. Say something like you're glad she told you now rather than later, because you haven't really gotten to know her yet, but if you fell in love first, it would've been a total disaster. Then you can make a joke out of it:…
/r/seduction17/05/26 07:32 PM
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everyone on seddit has 'learnt seduction'. Yeah, everyone's familiar with that logic, where a girl either likes you or she doesn't as if nothing else exists in between... it's just black and white, night or day, nothing in the middle. Have you never heard a girl say that when she first met her boyfriend, he wasn't her type (which is just a polite way of saying she didn't like him), but now they're together? If she isn't attracted to how you look, nothing will work Very true, but those are rare c…
/r/seduction17/05/26 07:16 PM
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I heard having a V-taper can improve your attractiveness by like 1 point. It matters 1% to a girl (and I don't mean 1 point on the attractiveness scale, I mean 1%, as in practically nothing)... That V shape, those six pack abs, or those extra 2-3 cm on your biceps don't matter, those only impress other guys, not most girls. There’s this idea going around that a guy who goes to the gym is automatically disciplined, which means he’s not obese, he's tall, looks good, is charismatic and cool... In r…
/r/seduction17/05/26 08:49 AM
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saying the right things just so you can fuck her What are those things? game is too effing tiring Take into consideration that having "game" just means you're a pleasant, optimistic, playful - a cool person while you are with a girl. Why is difficult to be like that? However everyone has these traits and they show up at certain moments but learning 'game' just means you've learned how to express them more easily by knowing many examples you can use IRL.
/r/seduction15/05/26 08:01 AM
1

What are you on, mate? I need some of that too!
/r/seduction14/05/26 07:45 PM
1

It depends on the anxiety level. Once anxiety passes a certain threshold, different biological processes are triggered, it’s similar to a person with the flu, you can't just tell them to force themselves not to cough, it’s impossible.
/r/seduction14/05/26 05:13 PM
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A dating coach isn't going to have all the answers. If you take every single question into account, then of course it’s impossible, however he has answers to 99% of the questions because he has enough experience to draw a solid conclusion on how these things actually work. Regarding the OP's question, it’s just a matter of time before a woman realizes that if she moves too fast with you, you’ll judge her. She's afraid you'll assume she acts that way with everyone, automatically labeling her as "…
/r/seduction14/05/26 08:03 AM
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That's enough material to keep you glued to your computer for the next 2-3 years... there's no point in overcomplicating things like that.
/r/seduction13/05/26 05:09 PM
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Like friend is thinking (hes not hot enough for you) or they are jealous. Childish stuff. Just think about it: if things were going well, the girl you're talking to would introduce you to her friend. That’s the point where the friend would stop stealing her away from you. But since that’s not happening, it’s clear the friend is just bailing her out of a situation she doesn't want to be in... she’s just doing her duty as a friend.
/r/seduction13/05/26 04:25 PM
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your value as a man is much rarer and harder to cultivate than being a hot girl. Give it another thought.
/r/seduction13/05/26 12:29 PM
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. I’ve had women approach me in public and ask if I’m single, and I do get looks fairly often. Where are you from? Are you from Japan or Thailand? In Romania, where I’m from, not a soul even approaches me.
/r/seduction13/05/26 11:38 AM
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The moment I tell you what to say, your "natural verbal game" stops being natural.
/r/seduction12/05/26 05:24 PM
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If you’re carrying a sign saying you’re waiting for the girl outside, or if you're telling everyone what you're doing, then yeah... you do look like a stalker. Otherwise, just do what you have to do to make things easier for yourself.
/r/seduction11/05/26 09:22 PM
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Reading PUA seduction advice did not help and actually made the problem worse ...but you keep mentioning "exposure" and "abundance mentality" which suggests you've understood those two things but not much else. Saying that you were "focused on the small details" makes no sense. When you drive a car, you don't think about having to stay focused on the road, keeping your hands on the wheel, hitting the gas, checking your mirrors,... You just know all the small details, and they surface at the righ…
/r/seduction11/05/26 10:34 AM
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Yes, when you reach a certain age and a certain status, you play this game differently. You aim to minimize rejection as much as possible, and there are plenty of ways to do this. However, you asked "How can you know in advance who is open to it?" and I just gave you the answer.
/r/seduction10/05/26 12:44 PM
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Energy and body language: she’s looking around (at people), her gaze is relaxed and she doesn't seem to be avoiding those around her. Tonality: when she’s talking to another woman, her tone is high and bright, she’s talkative and has a fast, engaging speaking rhythm. It’s hard to explain every single detail, but anyone can tell in a split second if a person is friendly, open, upset, has that vibe that says they don't want to be disturbed etc etc Of course, you can't read minds, but you can defin…
/r/seduction10/05/26 12:24 PM
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OP said it perfectly: "Cold approach (PUA-style) is dumb at any age." and he said the solution: "start open-ended conversations". These open-ended conversations are still technically cold approaches but they are natural starters that happen in everyday situations (they are a indirect openers). You start innocently and build from there, simple as that.
/r/seduction10/05/26 11:18 AM
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A ton of dating coaches have popped up lately turning cold approach into this act of courage, a bravery or some kind of hidden camera stunt. They approach anyone in any situation (at the gym, with their parents or friends, even while they're eating/drinking)... . On TikTok/YouTube the more awkward and out of place the approach, the more views it pulls in.
/r/seduction10/05/26 11:14 AM
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How can you know in advance who is open to it? It's all about her energy, body language, tonality, attitude... you pick up on all these things in a split second. You instinctively know if she’s talkative or not, and you'll find that you're right more often than not. It’s exactly like when a dog runs toward you, you instantly know if it's aggressive or just wants to play. Naturally, you'll miss some opportunities due to the margin of error, but the satisfaction of your instinct being right far ou…
/r/seduction10/05/26 10:45 AM
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If the music is playing, go dance! Then invite the girls to dance. That's movie stuff. When the film is over, you're gonna realize reality doesn't work like that.
/r/seduction08/05/26 10:28 PM
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Same thing, different label. Mystery explained this exact thing 20 years ago in his book... except he didn't use this fancy name. He basically said to subtly ignore the girl you like in a group and talk to everyone else instead. Theoretically, this makes her wonder why she’s not getting your attention, so she ends up approaching you and doing the heavy lifting for you.
/r/seduction08/05/26 10:21 PM
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A lot of the guys in these places will stand on the wall check out the women and not actually approach the women. What’s the vibe with these women? They look intimidating, they're in a group or they seem totally closed off ?
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:45 PM
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Don't explore too far, I heard there are dragons beyond this sentence.
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:41 PM
1

Guys barely get high success rates' part. This can be either very easy or very hard, so don't lump everyone together. For instance, if you go to a dive bar where a certain type of women hang out, it's going to be very easy to approach them, in fact, in many cases, they’ll be the ones approaching you. But if you go to a decent, high-end bar, that doesn't happen anymore, things work differently there. So, the idea that 'guys barely get high success rates' doesn't really hold up across the board. I…
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:26 PM
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You sound very focused on outer game without focusing on improving yourself in the rest of your life. This advice is such a joke. In reality you don't need to be a "perfected human being" with a 6-pack abs and healthy meal plan to talk with a girl or a hookup. People who aren't perfect hook up every single day. It’s like telling you "I want to learn how to drive this car to the grocery store," and you tell me "First, you must become a world-class mechanic, build your own engine, and win a Formul…
/r/seduction08/05/26 04:03 PM
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I wouldn't swear to it, because ignoring it is a double-edged sword.
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:59 AM
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, so mayb ethat was the best to not approach. There is a concept named "pre-approach". This means that when you see a girl walking toward you, you should step into her path, this forces her to naturally look at you. At that exact moment, you need to stop and wave while making eye-contact, it doesn't matter if she's wearing headphones or not, the gesture is what counts because she will stop and look at you... now use an opener....
/r/seduction07/05/26 08:25 PM
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Her name isn't really that important. Actually, some girls will test you by asking if you remember their name... I'm not a fan of that. Most of the time I only give my name after 2 - 3 minutes... and only when I see she's interested. Sometimes we end up talking for 5 minutes without even knowing each other's names or maybe she's the one who asks for my name,or I'll just ask for hers when I'm getting her number....
/r/seduction07/05/26 07:46 PM
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What do you guys here do when a girl got her headphones in? It's actually about a concept called "pre-approach". This means that when you see a girl walking toward you, you should step into her path this forces her to look at you by the time she's 2 - 3 meters away (probably even sooner). At that exact moment, you stop and wave while making eye-contact, it doesn't matter if she's wearing headphones or not, the gesture is what counts. This is how you guarantee she'll stop... and you take it from …
/r/seduction07/05/26 07:41 PM
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It's so simple when you create a pretext for the approach, and that transition with the joke was great... awesome! However, it's not necessary to ask for her name after only 3 - 4 sentences, that's only worth it if you notice she's contributing to the conversation and seems interested, otherwise there's no point.... overall awesome!
/r/seduction07/05/26 07:28 PM
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many bring up "masculinity" as an important trait. Only those lazy or incompetent dating coaches bring up this masculinity idea. If the girl leaves, they blame it on you: "you’re not masculine enough, your voice isn't deep enough, you don't have a Spartan attitude, you lack a winner's mindset, you don't have enough muscle... etc. etc." ... It’s always your fault. But now, look at these guys: Neil Strauss, Phill Heitlinger, Deepak Wayne, James Marshall, Nick Krauser... yet they are good in seduct…
/r/seduction07/05/26 07:16 PM
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It’s interesting how practical advice gets downvoted 😂
/r/seduction06/05/26 06:27 PM
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she was very touchy and lots of EC. You don't need "abundance mentality" or "polarization" when you meet that type of woman... actually, you're better off not using any game concepts at all.
/r/seduction06/05/26 06:14 PM
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You missed something important: it’s about women with a certain level of decency... for them, that 4 - 10 hour timeframe is perfectly valid. If a woman is a certain type, then it probably won't even take 5 minutes.
/r/seduction06/05/26 06:08 PM
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First, you said talk to them and treat them with respect and without sexual intent. That is completely illogical. Nothing wrong with it, but we’re talking about two different timeframes. - Your theory only applies to the very beginning, probably the first few minutes, just to see what kind of reaction you get. After that, depending on her vibe, you can either move forward or you simply need to back off. - If she doesn’t give you any positive signals in those first few minutes, there’s no logic i…
/r/seduction06/05/26 06:02 PM
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😂
/r/seduction06/05/26 05:26 PM
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I already mentioned the exception: "If you’re on a quiet street and someone appears in front of you, it’s no problem at all." Did you see it? It’s right there in my comment above. I can't list every scenario like walking a dog ....etc etc etc.... My point is: on a busy street, saying hello and then nothing else just looks awkward. Don't you think?
/r/seduction06/05/26 07:46 AM
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Use stereotypes, make assumptions, compare her to a famous singer. Exaggerate what you see, but always match her energy level. Don't push a joke if you see she’s not in the mood. On the other hand, if she responds enthusiastically with an "awwww thanks" or "thank youuuuu" that’s a different story. It also depends on whether she stops when you start talking to her or if she just keeps walking... if it's the latter, I’d just let her go because she clearly isn't interested. I don't see the point in…
/r/seduction05/05/26 09:45 PM
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Make the things eaiser for yourself: - Make quick eye contact wth her before you leave. - Wait for her outside the building - You'll be able to see if she's alone or if she already has a boyfriend from the gym - Approach her, it’s very easy, especially since she recognizes you + you already have a common interest to talk about + there’s a good chance she’ll be down to grab a drink with you.
/r/seduction05/05/26 06:03 PM
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"Leave her better than you found her" - Ross Jeffries
/r/seduction05/05/26 05:08 PM
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It’s all about anxiety levels. This thing where you say something and then just walk away isn't part of the beginner stage, it actually skips a few steps. If a guy's anxiety is at 80 - 90%,there's no way he can do this. It's just too much for him.
/r/seduction05/05/26 09:26 AM
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Women go to these places to get laid. Depends on the venue... is it just a local dive bar or a decent spot? You can't paint everyone with the same brush.
/r/seduction04/05/26 09:45 PM
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Being good at night game means you're good at day game as well, it works both ways. There are minor differences, but they don't matter once you've already figured out how to connect with women.
/r/seduction04/05/26 09:07 PM
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- How does it feel if you walk down a crowded street and greet a random stranger so you make the other person stop and look at you, and then you just keep walking... it looks like a candid camera prank. - Of course, if you’re on a quiet street and someone appears in front of you, it’s no problem at all.
/r/seduction04/05/26 01:15 PM
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they can never give me advice on how to flirt and I don’t know when I should really do - How to flirt? Make jokes, use puns, basically everything you used to do in 7th grade: tap her on the shoulder and ducking away, throw paper scraps at her, bump into her while walking, blow a kiss / make a heart shape from a distance, wink at her , use double entendres like in this VIDEO (this is the easiest way to escalate by giving a sexual connotation to some words, just like Craig Ferguson does, without e…
/r/seduction04/05/26 12:25 PM
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1st week: just say hello to 1 random person a day. You will see very quickly how easy it is. That’s incredibly embarrassing. Imagine just saying "hello" and keeping on walking, you don't do that. It’s like a joke or a candid-camera bit. You're right about desensitization but you need to apply different actions to make it work.
/r/seduction04/05/26 09:46 AM
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There's no such thing as a one-size-fits-all opener. It’s all about the group's energy, as long as you’re calibrated to them, anything goes. If you see they have open body language and they’re loud (acting like they want to attract attention) then a line like "Hey guys, sorry I’m late" is good, can make a funny and playfull vibe. But that's way too much for a quieter group. It’s hard to explain, but you can read the room in a second. It's much better to go with something general and low-pressure…
/r/seduction04/05/26 08:31 AM
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Next time, write down your biggest fear on a piece of paper... make a list in order of importance, like you mentioned earlier: "she's probably with her family" or "she's with her friends." Now that you have that list, simply go and ask her to see if you're right or not: "Excuse me, are you here with your family?"... She’ll say YES/NO ... but no matter what she says... and you continue "I knew it! I was so sure.... you’re so easy to read, I just look at you and I can tell you're a hairdresser, ri…
/r/seduction03/05/26 06:06 PM
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He was judged in two seconds... does it even matter who he is anymore? That's exactly how it works on the street, if you don't pay attention to your clothes, you're halfway rejected before you even start.
/r/seduction03/05/26 09:32 AM
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The workload isn't the same. If you have a product to sell, it’s easy when you’re walking among people who are already interested in it, all you have to do is show it to them. But it’s a completely different story when you have that product and you’re the one who has to go out and hunt for a potential buyer... that’s pretty much how it works.
/r/seduction02/05/26 11:30 PM
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So, you’ve shared some theories... but how about some examples? Without examples, you're putting the entire burden on the OP
/r/seduction02/05/26 11:09 PM
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It's not necessarily your fault if you don't get positive reactions, and without those reactions, you can't really tell jokes, it's like a vicious circle. The idea is to break that circle so you can slip in a joke and change the vibe. There are all sorts of gambits: "See that guy over there? He looks exactly like a classmate of mine who... [insert a short funny story here]".... Is she smiling? Is she laughing? Great... keep it going with another joke, and next the easiest one is a double entendr…
/r/seduction02/05/26 11:02 PM
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Maybe you're just too curious... or it's simply an excuse so she doesn't have to tell you to your face that she'd prefer to meet another guy. Escalation is tricky, you can't escalate if you don't get a good reaction. You can't make a joke if you see the other person is not in the mood... so it’s not really your fault. However, if you get some good reactions and you don't strike while the iron is hot... the window of opportunity closes.
/r/seduction02/05/26 10:49 PM
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I just saw a YouTube video HERE where this guy was rejected by every single girl before he even opened his mouth. I couldn't figure out what was going on until at minute 4:22 when I saw he was wearing sandals with that outfit. How you dress is very important to a woman, it's the first thing they notice when they look at you, not your chest, abs or biceps. I mean, if your biceps is 40 that's not good, but if they are 42 or 43 it's suddenly fine? You see how stupid that sounds? Going to the gym or…
/r/seduction02/05/26 06:36 PM
1

They enjoy talking with me but I never got the signs that she’s attracted to me by that. After 2–3 minutes, is she still talkative? Does she look at you while you speak? Does she give you long-form answers? Is she laughing/smiling and contributing to the conversation? You don’t need any more signs to see that she is HOOKED. If she didn't find you attractive on some level, she wouldn't stand there talking to you, only to tell you 5 minutes later that she has a boyfriend. Regarding kino, I don’t t…
/r/seduction01/05/26 09:44 PM
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When the only way to make a name for yourself is by tearing others down, it says a lot about your character... You don't have to know him to know he's full of BS.
/r/seduction01/05/26 09:31 PM
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It’s based on the misconception that you need to be smooth to talk to a girl, or that you have to say something mind-blowing to get noticed, but actually, it doesn't have to be anything special.
/r/seduction01/05/26 02:40 PM
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I literally spent a whole year binging all kinds of RSD videos (and similar inner game videos), only to realize the year had passed and I'd learned absolutely nothing. It’s all just fluff talk, they take simple things that should take a minute to explain and stretch them out into 1 or 2-hour lectures.... endless, empty concepts... RSD Max - Fearless is actually worth watching, he deals with anxiety and offers practical things to do, but everything else is just a waste of time... ...especially "P…
/r/seduction01/05/26 12:17 PM
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If you want to share it, use Google Drive, it's free.
/r/seduction01/05/26 12:09 PM
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So you're just trying to make a commission off those $4. Anyway, the whole RSD videos are a waste of time. You simply don't learn anything. There are even clips where they say you don't need to learn anything, so it makes no sense why they even made so many videos if there's nothing to learn.... simply weird.
/r/seduction01/05/26 11:31 AM
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If you run out of things to say then she's not into you. You might run into someone who’s quiet, shy, suspicious who actually likes you, but gives cold, one-word answers that leave you stuck. You’re simply left with nothing to comment on. This is where your skill as a speaker comes in, you need to have a few jokes, stories, or gambits ready. You try them out 2-3 times, but if the vibe doesn't shift, there’s no point in staying, you just walk away. Your first video isn't great but she's naturally…
/r/seduction01/05/26 08:54 AM
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Sometimes, you’ll notice one woman in a friend group who’s more talkative and expressive, with open body language... it’s a clear sign she has a higher energy level. That type of person is approachable, and the easiest move (if you’re holding a drink) is to catch her eye and tilt your glass for a "cheers". If the group has low energy, I prefer not to bother... unless there's eye contact, though that rarely happens. More often than not, I see 1-2 women peel off from the main group to buy somethin…
/r/seduction01/05/26 07:59 AM
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This method of imagining a dialogue is extremely difficult, and almost anyone gets stuck pretty quickly. Then, because they run out of things to say, they get the impression they lack the social skills for a conversation, but that's not a fair self-assessment. It’s obvious you’ll run out of things to say if you can't see the other person and comment on their reactions. Check out this VIDEO -this is the best example of how I comment on their reactions (it's impossible to do that without seeing th…
/r/seduction30/04/26 08:56 PM
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You’re the exception to the rule... I don't know anyone else like you... most of the guys get stuck after 2-3 sentences (or let it be 5 sentences but in very rare cases). Having a dialogue in your head while managing to be playful and crack jokes at the same time is something really difficult to pull off... However if you can do that, good for you, now the next step is to apply it IRL. If you're as good as you say, you'll never run out of things to say without ever needing to learn a script or a…
/r/seduction30/04/26 07:29 PM
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You're right in a way, but why complicate things? The idea is to stack the odds in your favor. You have some control over your clothes, so it's worth taking advantage of that. You can also control your overall appearance: get a haircut, stand up straight, wear some cologne... and just like that, you've already earned some points without much effort otherwise you are just making the whole process way more difficult than it needs to be. Check out this VIDEO or VIDEO where Phil Heitlinger transform…
/r/seduction30/04/26 07:19 PM
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Actually, you rarely even get a chance to talk to her in most cases. It’s been about 3 - 4 years since I realized how much an outfit matters. Once I upgraded my wardrobe with dolce gabbana, armani and medium brands: hugo boss, guess, lacoste, tommy hilfiger and I noticed a drastic difference compared to back when I just wore Adidas, Nike or no name clothes. This was my outfit on February 14th this year PHOTO Make an effort to mix designer brands with regular clothes, girls will definitely notice…
/r/seduction30/04/26 07:04 PM
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First off, outfit doesn’t matter THAT much. Oh, it matters big time. It’s like 90% of the impression before you even open your mouth. When you see a stranger, the first thing you do is look at their clothes, it's the only thing you have to go on. If your clothes suck, you're already halfway rejected. Just like you avoid a beggar from a distance when you don't want to give him money, girls will avoid a guy who's dressed like a bum before he even says a word.
/r/seduction30/04/26 04:20 PM
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Yes, an opener works, but not a dialogue of 10-15 sentences.... I think after 2-3 sentences you'll get stuck. Try it and see.
/r/seduction30/04/26 04:12 PM
1

There is a YouTube channel with the same name as your Reddit username. Are you Dave Lee?
/r/seduction30/04/26 03:08 PM
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As you go through your daily life pick a girl and visualise what would you say to her. This only works as an opener, and that’s it, because there's no way to visualize a full dialogue. After 2-3 sentences, you'll stop because you can't continue without seeing the other person's reaction. IRL when you ask a question, even if you don't get a verbal answer (just a shrug or a smile) you can still keep going. But if you're just imagining a dialogue without seeing her gestures or facial expressions, y…
/r/seduction30/04/26 08:41 AM
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Direct Daygame uses Manipulation to Make Her Feel Guilty if She Rejects Him How did you come to that conclusion? A compliment is better than nothing, but it's better to stay away from them unless you truly have no idea what to say. In other words, they work for beginners, but the moment you have a better vocabulary, you stop using compliments... they are lame.
/r/seduction30/04/26 08:16 AM
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I think it's just because we're putting too much importance on the interaction Actually, you don't even get that far, you're just blocked. I mean, you’re walking down the street, you see a woman your age, and you simply don't even feel like approaching her. In other words, you're stuck before you even start. If you actually manage to approach her and then you freeze up, that’s a good thing, and it’s not actually your fault. It’s more her fault because she isn't reacting in a way that makes thing…
/r/seduction29/04/26 05:17 PM
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Shoot your shot anyways, Nah, I don't like that attitude. She must be shorter than me, that's the number one filter I use.
/r/seduction29/04/26 09:35 AM
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No, wait! I'm not talking about normal biological reactions like slight nerves, emotions.... that's normal to feel like that in a level of 10%-25% in a scale from 1 to 100. I'm talking about the incongruence between what you said and your anxiety. You said that "when it comes to talking to women and building rapport, that’s something I can do fairly easily".. but then you say you have approach anxiety. That's a total contradiction, it makes no sense. It’s one thing to not know what to say and ju…
/r/seduction29/04/26 08:12 AM
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height doesn’t matter to every woman. Of course, not all women are like that, but for over 95%, height is very important.
/r/seduction29/04/26 07:54 AM
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It’s interesting how you put together the sentence "when it comes to talking to women and building rapport, that’s something I can do fairly easily" with the phrase "approach anxiety"... it makes no sense. It’s like being prepared for an exam, but when you actually take it, you get so anxious that you can't even write what you know. ... hard to believe. Right, you have emotions that's perfectly normal but because you know what to do and what to say there is no reason to still get anxious. Think …
/r/seduction28/04/26 10:44 PM
1

Oh, the guy accused of sexual assault last year - LINK that's not a good sign.
/r/seduction28/04/26 09:14 PM
1

She already hits me when i tease her That's perfect! When she punches my shoulder or slaps my arm, I exaggerate and tell her: "Ouch, that hurt! You're so strong... are you a weightlifter/a pro boxer? Let me see how much you weigh so I can check your weight class" and that's your chance to pick her up. There’s an entire chapter on how to escalate. You start with words, using double entendres like in this VIDEO, and then you use all kinds of silly games (the stuff you used to do in 7th grade) like…
/r/seduction28/04/26 07:46 PM
2

Next time you make eye contact, don't forget to add one thing: take two steps in her direction while she's looking at you. Forget about voice projection, deep voice, masculine attitude, or specific body language... forget all that. Just do these two things: (1) eye contact + (2) take two steps toward her, and then let us know what happened.
/r/seduction28/04/26 06:42 PM
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The Main Problem: I don't know what to talk about, or how to be more playful, You said you joined a coaching program, didn't they teach you how to be more playful ??? Also, if someone tells you to approach 1000 women, that's a huge red flag. It’s either incompetence or pure laziness, they’re just dumping all the pressure on you and praying you'll figure it out on your own.
/r/seduction28/04/26 06:31 PM
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You said the magic word "sometimes" every rule has its exceptions because people have different personalities, and they are in different mood but we are talking about the vast majority of cases... which means that in most cases -> good vibes come first, escalation + compliance test second. ... is not opposite, even though in some cases it works but that means you're playing with the odds against you.
/r/seduction28/04/26 08:43 AM
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In a bar, continuous evaluation is on fast-forward compared to regular social interactions but even in this case the majority of women won't just label you as attractive or unattractive.. because your DHV through your clothes and your attitude/staus places you in the INTERESTING category. You become someone who’s worth a second look, and that’s exactly what buys you the time you need to move into a different category. Of course, on a superficial level, there’s a certain type of woman who will in…
/r/seduction27/04/26 11:52 PM
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As shown by the Gauss Bell Curve in your drawing, there will always be about 10% of women who will like you no matter what and another 10% who will reject you regardless of what you do. But the vast majority is in the middle (the "maybe" ones), those women who aren't necessarily attracted to you yet, but they aren't rejecting you either. Which gives me better odds: hunting for YES girls (10%) or working with the MAYBES (80%)? If I only go after the YES types, I might as well move to a different …
/r/seduction27/04/26 09:15 PM
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Start with women you're not attracted to. That's debatable... Not to mention that if a girl doesn't look that great and you approach her, she’ll be on guard automatically, she'll sense that something is off. Plus it’s incredibly hard to hold a 5 minute conversation when you’re just not interested. It’s fine for a quick warm-up, just a fast question and then you leave but not for actual storytelling and escalation.
/r/seduction27/04/26 05:20 PM
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You look like a Hustler's University or The Real World member... you need to relax.
/r/seduction27/04/26 05:11 PM
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If you fear rejection, don't give them the opportunity to reject you. Instead, you need to start with a simple 2-second question: - "Excuse me, is the XYZ that way? OK, thanks!" Repeat this 5-10-20 times until you are comfortable with a 2-second question.....If you can't ask a question... well... that's not good. - next day say a longer sentence by inserting a deliberatly mistake: "Excuse me, is XYZ that way?... So, it’s to the right? (deliberately mistake) Oh, you said left? Got it, thanks!" - …
/r/seduction27/04/26 05:09 PM
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i will adopt you as my next sister It’s a classic 'neg' line. When a girl hears a sentence like this, she won’t feel like she’s being hit on, so the guy doesn't seem like a threat to her... it just makes everything so much easier. With that line, it makes the guy look like a friendly person who just happens to cross paths with her..... is an easy concept you just need to be open mind. Try to find the logic behind a line, not find situations when it doesn't work.... that's all. I also struggled w…
/r/seduction27/04/26 03:14 PM
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The idea is that you start a conversation because you’re a cool, friendly guy... and it just so happens that you're talking to her because she was in your path. As you speak, you discover qualities in her that you actually appreciate, and that is why you start liking her. So you don't like her from second one when all you can see is her physical appearance, you like her a bit later. This shows her that you’re not a guy who is easily seduced by any pretty face, or long legs, it shows that she nee…
/r/seduction27/04/26 12:39 PM
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making ur intentions clear The point is, you shouldn't tell her what you want from the very first second you see her for various reasons (I won't list them because it involves another concept that would then require even more explaining... ) so the intention stays hidden only for 2-5 minutes. So the intention isn't hidden forever... I don't know where this idea even comes from.
/r/seduction27/04/26 11:49 AM
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yeah u got her number and when u meet up , u have to clarify your intentions By the time you ask for her number, she already knows the deal. She knows you're interested and that you want to get to know her better, you don’t need to clarify anything. She already knows exactly why you're asking. you are trying to extract a desired response from an another human, Anyone is doing this whether they admit it or not. It’s hard to confess, and it's much easier to just say you approach a girl 'to see wha…
/r/seduction27/04/26 09:26 AM
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In the 20 years since Mystery’s book was published, people have constantly been looking for a shortcut to skip the stages. It’s reached a level where some say you shouldn't learn anything at all, just "be yourself" go out there, try your luck, and see what happens.... There’s a lot more to say because you’ve missed the mark completely, but if you understand that things aren't just binary: black or white, day or night, or as you put it, "attraction is either there or it's not", if you understand …
/r/seduction27/04/26 09:07 AM
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i find this type of pickup really inauthentic and gamey . Would you rather have a gamey, inauthentic system that gives you confidence to approach a girl or a 100% authentic freestyle that is limited by your own knowledge/experience? Or saying with other words: let's say you want to play a game by the rules, but the other team just wants to win to the point where they are even cheating. Without knowing any more details about the match, who has the better chance of winning?
/r/seduction27/04/26 08:44 AM
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The idea behind "game" is to transform you into a pleasant, funny, optimistic, playful, and charismatic person. How do you become that charismatic and witty person? You tell jokes, share funny stories, use witty lines and crack all sorts of puns. You use double entendres like in this VIDEO. This also includes all kinds of playful gestures and games like VIDEO or VIDEO + as Neil Strauss said, you need the stuff you used to do back in 7th grade... like tapping her on the shoulder and ducking away,…
/r/seduction26/04/26 10:56 AM
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I'm looking to ramp up my vibe over the next couple of weeks (fitness) Thinking that a 6 pack abs hidden under your clothes will make the difference is like carrying a secret weapon you never use. In reality, nothing will change because you don't learn how to be social in the gym. Go there if you enjoy it or for your health, but don't expect it to fix your social skills. It's less about knowing what to say for me and more nerves. It doesn't make much sense because, normally, if you have a plan t…
/r/seduction26/04/26 09:47 AM
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The guy in this video is the living definition of stupidity. When the old school PUA guys talked about calibration and IOI/IOD signals, they did it for a reason, they weren't just talking nonsense. Now, as for those who want to skip over it because it seems redundant to them or they can "calibrate" during talking, I wish them the best of luck. (noone is ever gonna accept right off the bat) Regarding the methods you find, you need to be open-minded, you need to understand when exactly they work, …
/r/seduction25/04/26 07:58 AM
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If you cant meet women on your own, then you cant bring them to events. And if you dont have the basic skills (which his courses dont teach) then you cant meet them at events. Doesn’t it actually rely on the fact that, as an event organizer, you have authority, and that’s why women want to get to know you? So you don't really need a high level of social skills and "game'.. Justin Marc’s whole strategy works on this exact idea - anyway, the fact that he was arrested for sexual assault says a lot …
/r/seduction24/04/26 09:59 PM
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I saw WAY too many PUA's with scams and frauds. Who are they? All I see, and continue to see, are incompetents. They aren't frauds, they are trying to do their best, but their incompetence is a barrier to their progress, and it is what it is. my club promoter and photographer friends got way more women than I ever did doing "pickup". There are many variables you can't to compare to others. MOA is important up to a certain level, but it depends on the quality of women you are looking for. If I wa…
/r/seduction24/04/26 09:44 PM
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There are certain gambits that you need to memorize and use the exact moment you freeze up... so, there’s no way you wouldn't know what to say.. it makes no sense. Being prepared is never the problem, being unprepared is. Maybe it's emotions? But in that case, he must have a serious medical problem, it's not because he knows too many gambits. they had a script of convo then the girl said something that they didn’t anticipate or not in the script. You use gambits only when needed, like tools in a…
/r/seduction23/04/26 04:39 PM
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I’ve never heard anyone say "I know so much theory, so many openers, transitions and gambits that I’m too afraid to start a conversation with a girl." It’s impossible to be that well-prepared and still not have the courage to just go out there and see what happens. It’s always the opposite, the guy has no idea what to say and he’s terrified of embarrassing himself (regardless of whether the girl is attractive or not), so all kinds of fears start to kick in.
/r/seduction23/04/26 01:02 PM
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Your clothes show who you are before you even utter a word... they DHV you before you talk. Think about it, when you see a beggar on the street and you don't want to give him money, you start avoiding him from a distance. That’s exactly what girls do when they see a guy dressed like a bum. You’re already a red flag from afar, and even though you haven't said a word, you've already been half-rejected... you’re just making everything much harder for yourself than it needs to be. This doesn't mean …
/r/seduction23/04/26 09:06 AM
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Wearing headphones is a very good pre-approach move for any beginner. You need to take them off when a girl is 5-6 meters in front of you, right as you make eye contact. The other person will instinctively know you want to tell her something, she might slow their pace or even stop, waiting to hear what you have to say... In that moment, it becomes very easy to use any opener you want because you've already captured her attention before you even say a word. Pre-approach is a subtle move that peop…
/r/seduction23/04/26 08:32 AM
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- Before you go out, you need to get into a good head space. Listen to your favorite music, watch some stand-up comedy, take a cold shower, do some push-ups... do whatever it takes to feel good. When you close that door and leave the house, you need be in a great mood, humming a song or whistling to yourself. - Once you’re out, you have maximum 20 minute window to talk to a stranger. If you let those 20 minutes pass, you’ll start overthinking, worrying about your problems or work, the boring tho…
/r/seduction22/04/26 09:53 PM
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I didn’t invent this stuff, it’s proven in medicine. Medicine clearly states that if someone with anxiety tries to force themselves to just get over it they’re going to blush, sweat, their blood pressure will spike, heart rate increases, they’ll get restless, start fidgeting, develop all kinds of nervous tics... or even hit a full-blown panic attack. Just Google how approach anxiety actually works and you’ll see. Anxiety is overcome through a series of small successes, not by forcing the issue. …
/r/seduction22/04/26 09:44 PM
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Women are people too, not just exercises for you Now you’re just being weird. You ask me how to stop being afraid of women and once you have the answer you complain that "women are people too"... I had a beer this evening, but I don't believe I'm drunk.... I don't know what happened. And what then if she's not interested? Has he failed yet again? So you're saying that getting a "NO, I don't know" as a response to a 2 second question is a failure??? Believe it or not, if a guy is that sensitive, …
/r/seduction22/04/26 08:24 PM
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It looks like you've understood what progressive desensitization is. Depending on your level of social anxiety, there are all kinds of exercises... in short, it goes like this: - at first it start with a 2 second question: "Excuse me, is XYZ that way? OK, thanks!" Repeat this 5-10-20 times until you are comfortable with a 2-second question... - next time say a longer sentence by inserting a deliberatly mistake: Excuse me, is XYZ that way?... So, it’s to the right? (deliberately mistake) Oh, you …
/r/seduction22/04/26 07:08 PM
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Think about someone who’s afraid of spiders, how do you treat them? You definitely don’t just throw a spider into their hand to scare them even more. Instead, you start a process of progressive desensitization. You show them drawings of spiders, once they are used to those, maybe the next day you show them photos. Then another day, it’s a toy that looks like a spider... then a dead spider from a distance... then from closer up... until eventually, they can touch a spider and hold it in their han…
/r/seduction22/04/26 06:32 PM
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It’s not that deep, but it’s not that superficial either... As I said: when a guy fears failure the last thing he needs is another failure yet you’re pushing him to fail once again... that’s not the way to go.
/r/seduction22/04/26 05:45 PM
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When facing a fear, isn't it wiser to examine it from all viewpoints before drawing a conclusion? Diving headfirst without looking where you’re going is a good way to end up with a bump on your head.
/r/seduction22/04/26 05:33 PM
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the best formula is go out and do something to meet girls and fail Telling a guy "go and fail" makes no sense, that’s the one thing he’s trying to escape, but here you are sending him straight into another defeat. Progress in life is built on small wins, not on repeated failures otherwise you end up saying "there’s no point, because nothing ever works out anyway."
/r/seduction22/04/26 05:18 PM
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If you read what I wrote earlier more carefully, you'll see where I find them. As for the approach, it’s 90% indirect. I’ve seen that it works, so that’s what I do. I always create a reason to start a conversation. For example, in a grocery store I was actually telling a Reddit user the other day to try this: you just walk up near her, pick a product off the shelf, and simply ask her how much it costs because you forgot your glasses at home. If you do this at the coffee aisle, it’s great because…
/r/seduction21/04/26 10:16 PM
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I'm just saying, I'm happy with the way things are. It all depends on the type of woman you're dealing with, things can be easy, as I said above or they can be extremely difficult. Sometimes you can read a person in a split second and just know your chances... your gut feeling works wonders.
/r/seduction21/04/26 09:33 PM
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You're right. At the moment, I feel like I could have a long-term relationship whenever I wanted... I don't feel like I’ve missed the train, I simply don't want the responsibilities. I’m not exactly a role model to follow, but I’m always happy to give advice when it comes to hookups.
/r/seduction21/04/26 09:13 PM
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It’s hard to find someone who is actually available, but when I do, the chances of going on a date (or even more) are much higher, and they are more serious. Flaking almost doesn't exist for me... I can't even remember the last time someone flaked, maybe last year during the summer. I’m not picky but I do look for women who are shorter than me since I’m 170 cm. I also check her hand for a wedding ring and scan the surroundings to see if a kid is running toward her or if her husband is trailing b…
/r/seduction21/04/26 08:56 PM
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I'm turning 48 next month... I'm a dinosaur, where are you from ?
/r/seduction21/04/26 05:08 PM
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When a woman likes you at a certain level (when she’s hooked), it doesn't matter how bad your joke is, she’ll smile or laugh anyway.... Whether the joke is actually funny or just silly, you'll still get a good reaction out of it. Even just looking at each other without saying a word can become a funny moment... everything works at that point. BTW... check out this VIDEO I noticed the blonde girl was very smiley the moment I started talking to them. Since I saw such a good reaction from their par…
/r/seduction21/04/26 04:32 PM
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If she is still there then u r doing well Many women stay in a conversation out of simple politeness or because they feel too awkward to leave, not because the guy is doing well... For this reason, you need to be very attentive to her reactions and leave (or at least take a step back) the moment you see even a slight sign that she is uncomfortable. ... now I see guys talking about IDGF, don't filter yourself , don't be reaction seeking ... Well, that’s interesting, because every concept you read…
/r/seduction21/04/26 03:47 PM
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Once you have a certain job and a certain status in society, you can't just adopt that IDGAF attitude, you have to filter yourself simply because there are many things you just can't say to a woman who is a total stranger... you can't just say all kinds of things, you don't look good. Also, you need to be reaction seeking... which means if I tell a joke and don't get a good reaction once or twice, it would be complete nonsense to continue when it’s clear I’m not welcome. All these rebellious rul…
/r/seduction21/04/26 03:30 PM
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Well, there's the IDGAF attitude that’s also included... so what now?
/r/seduction21/04/26 02:59 PM
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So .. "be present in the moment" + "don't filter yourself" + "don't be reaction-seeking"... and I guess if you don't receive a positive reaction, you just move on, next... until you find another girl who will finally listen to your silly things and say nothing about your attitude (by not censoring/filtering yourself)... am I right?
/r/seduction21/04/26 02:45 PM
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Just make an assumption about her, it’s the easiest way to keep the conversation going. For example: "You have an interesting aura/vibe, are you a local ?" Then, play with a stereotype. If she’s blonde, assume she’s from Germany or Sweden. If she’s a brunette, tell her she has that Italian or Spanish look. You don’t need to guess right, in fact, it’s better if you don't. She will correct you, and boom! Now you have something real to talk about. If she is a local or not ... "No way! A friend of m…
/r/seduction20/04/26 08:36 PM
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I’d say it doesn’t matter if it’s direct or indirect however I’m a proponent of indirect openers, especially situational/observational ones, because it’s the most normal and natural way to start a conversation with a stranger. Check out this VIDEO it’s the easiest way to understand what I mean. I asked a trivial question but when I saw her becoming talkative and smiling, I obviously kept the conversation going. If I had received a cold, short answer, I would have just thanked her and walked away…
/r/seduction20/04/26 06:56 PM
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"Don’t sh*t where you eat" but there is nothing wrong approaching a girl outside the gym building. (1) Just make a casual eye contact once inside the gym -> (2) Head out (you’ll have to wait for her, and it might not sound moral but it’s highly efficient). You need to decide if are you Mr. Moralist or do you want results? -> (3) Once you see her outside, it’s much easier to approach because she already recognizes you, you have a common interest to talk about, (you can even see if she’s alone or …
/r/seduction20/04/26 03:18 PM
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It’s not about COURAGE which means you don't need to be a hero. They just like a guy who takes the first step... that’s all! You don't need to project masculinity, use a deep voice or any of that stuff.... because you're just making it more intimidating than it actually is. Am I masculine enough? Is my voice deep enough? Are my muscles big enough? Am I tall enough? Do I need a beard to show my masculinity?' ... and so on. Endless questions and worries. Talking to a girl is a nice, normal and a p…
/r/seduction20/04/26 02:09 PM
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The RSD Max challenge just makes you do all kinds of weird things on the street - is more about fighting with all kinds of fears. Neil Strauss’s "30 Day Challenge" is way better. He focuses on actually approaching and talking to women in a progressive way while you also fight with all kinds of fears.
/r/seduction20/04/26 09:19 AM
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Make things easier for yourself, do this in a grocery store it is easier to start and there you don't need to start with a compliment, actually 90% of the time, that sounds weird AF. I usually grab a product from the shelf, especially coffee, walk up to the lady, and ask: 'Excuse me, how many stars/bullets does this have?' (referring to the strength scale). I'll tell her I forgot my glasses at home and that I've never tried that brand of coffee before and I'm thinking of trying something new or …
/r/seduction20/04/26 09:09 AM
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Healthiest??? It's a double-edged sword. If you don't know when to stop, you'll end up 47 years old like me, without a serious relationship just because you know you can always find someone else. That’s not healthy.
/r/seduction20/04/26 08:29 AM
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Women have always been on their guard, they were 50 years ago too. Just read "How to Pick Up Girls" by Eric Weber, written back in 1970... the problems were exactly the same as they are now. It only took me about 2-3 months on this sub to realize that men are always asking about the same problems as it were in the old AOL or Yahoo forums. Absolutely nothing has changed... There is nothing new under the sun, there are just new guys with new ways to scam people.
/r/seduction20/04/26 08:13 AM
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Michael Sartain once claimed to be 6'1, but he's actually the same height as RSD Tyler... 5'7 He’s a man with major insecurities, I don't know what you could possibly learn from him. BTW, he once said that Daygame doesn't work and that it would get you arrested. But I’ve been doing cold approach for 5 years and never had a single issue with the police, I know other guys who haven't either. His "Social Circle Game" involves organizing fake charity events where he invites girls just to get photo w…
/r/seduction19/04/26 11:32 AM
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how you’re able to get out of your head and be in the moment instead of trying to run scripts and this overly technical game. Scripts and gambits are just a plan B, an ace up your sleeve... it doesn't mean you're forced to use a specific gambit every time you talk to a girl. You only use them if you happen to lose your train of thought or get stuck, so you don't end up looking like a creep. Every time you explain something, you inevitably become technical, there's no way around it... any real ex…
/r/seduction18/04/26 06:48 PM
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Yes... decent conversation skills are enough that's what I always keep saying but here I was talking about RSD Tyler. He can talk rubbish and still flip the script in his favor because he doesn't just have a decent level, he has very good social skills.
/r/seduction18/04/26 12:26 PM
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Fair enough... but since I’ve laid out exactly why your logic fails, I’m curious to hear your case. Why exactly do you think I’m the one in the wrong here?
/r/seduction18/04/26 12:19 PM
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it also doesn't actually really matter what you say Go talk rubbish to 100 girls and see where that gets you.... Sure, if you have very good social skills like RSD Tyler, you can talk about vegetables or any random nonsense and flip the script in your favor. But how many guys are actually on that level? Julien pull by doing what everyone is told to not do It all depends on who you're talking to. One girl might find your random questions funny, but another will just think you’re on drugs. We teac…
/r/seduction18/04/26 12:04 PM
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youre overthinking it my friend. It’s much better to spend 5 -10 minutes overthinking it once and reaching a solid conclusion, than to pretend the problem doesn't exist only to run into it later and end up right back where you started.
/r/seduction18/04/26 10:56 AM
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enter the conversation with high energy Yes and no... it’s all about a simple calibration, something you figure out in 1-2 seconds. You go in with high energy if you see that the women also have high energy, if they’re talking loudly... have open body language...but you don’t do the same thing if they look a bit closed off. You are always trying to find common ground and the easiest way to start is to match her energy level... you start from there.
/r/seduction18/04/26 09:07 AM
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Everyone has a different personality. You like guys who seem calm, okay... that’s just you. Then comes another girl who likes more energetic guys, another who likes serious types, another who wants to have fun and looks for a playful guy... everyone is different.... I don't know what you're trying to prove...
/r/seduction17/04/26 08:44 PM
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roleplay as a woman i just met at a bar. be realistic. don't be nice You've really blown it with this one. When you get negative reactions from a woman, you don't keep going trying to look smarter... why would you even do that? To prove what? That's not how it's done. You simply wish her a nice day and walk away... you don't start trying to change her mind about you. Not welcome? You're out! Next!
/r/seduction17/04/26 08:27 PM
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Every time people ask my age and I say it they are like "aww you look so young" which is not a good sign. What????? You actually got qualified for doing basically nothing... That's huge women will have an expectation that a man that age will be very experienced Rubbish! What kind of YouTube videos are you watching to come up with these extreme ideas? I have never felt that a woman was ever attracted to me. It makes sense, because women tend to be more discreet when showing attraction towards a m…
/r/seduction17/04/26 08:54 AM
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The James Bond attitude works in movies, but in real life, nobody is like that.
/r/seduction16/04/26 07:00 PM
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you can either believe that girls don’t like you, or that girls do like you, Any shit-test is a good sign because a girl who isn't attracted to you on some level will never bother to shit-test you. either passing or failing the test. The point is, you shouldn't let your mood shift. You have to stay exactly the same as you were before she asked you that kind of question. For this, there's that universal rule for passing any shit-test: "agree and amplify".. it works every single time.
/r/seduction15/04/26 10:17 PM
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It’s not hyperanalyzing... it’s instinctual. It's like when you see a dog on the street, you just feel the energy. You pick up on the tension, the posture, the way it looks at you.... You can sense instantly if it's friendly and wants to play, or if it’s tense and might bite. It’s the same with people. You don't need a conversation to sense if someone is open or closed off; your gut catches the vibe, and 99% of the time, it's right. It’s what makes the difference between a YouTube/TikTok creator…
/r/seduction15/04/26 09:49 PM
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How would you know the girl is shy until you actually start talking to her? You look at her micro-signals: is she avoiding eye contact? That’s the easiest thing to spot. Confident people look at others, while shy people tend to stare at objects, the paintings on the walls, the menu, the TV in the bar, or even just their own drink... anything just to avoid making eye contact with the rest of the world. Then there are other clues: Is she using her phone as a shield? Is her body language closed off…
/r/seduction15/04/26 09:07 PM
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Whether you can have fun while approaching is debatable... you're not even mentioning reading the room or calibration. Imagine you see a shy, quiet girl... are you really going to use an opener like: "I want to impregnate you tonight"? I highly doubt it. On the other hand, that same opener might actually create a funny vibe if the girl has high energy. So, besides just "having fun" you have to include social calibration, otherwise, it makes no sense. RSD Maxx claims you don't need pre-calibratio…
/r/seduction15/04/26 08:27 PM
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5 years ago i would've never said the npoi baby line If you had approached a girl as talkative as this one 5 years ago, I’m 100% sure you would've used that 'nepo baby line' back then too. If this girl had been colder or less chatty, you wouldn't have even had the chance to use it. When a girl gives you good vibes, honestly, it doesn't matter what you say, you can get away with anything. It’s not that your bold jokes got her to react better, it’s that her positive reactions gave you the green li…
/r/seduction15/04/26 08:09 PM
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Don't even bother researching it. Knowing what they used just puts the idea in your head, and it's honestly a total loser move. If you need a drug to feel brave, it's a sign that you're fundamentally weak.
/r/seduction15/04/26 07:35 PM
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I don’t get matches online I don't use dating apps. I'm 47, and honestly, why would a girl pick me when she’s got a hundred other choices? It’s a different story IRL there if I just want a hookup, I hit the local dive bars. The women there aren't high-maintenance, and the competition is easy to beat. Just be a step above the usual crowd by wearing nice clothes and you’ll get noticed the second you step through the door. If you're not too picky, it's impossible not to find a single lady in those …
/r/seduction15/04/26 06:46 PM
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The bottom line is that it’s not right to call Tinder "trash" especially when you’ve used it yourself and it actually got you results, only to pivot and promote a new method that contradicts everything that actually worked for you. That is pure hypocrisy, and it speaks volumes about your character. I'm not just talking about Manson, but RSD Tyler too, who still uses gambits and routines to this day, even though he was the first one to mock them.
/r/seduction13/04/26 08:11 PM
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So, the PUA lifestyle which he defined as manipulation and unethical behavior, actually got him exactly what he wanted: 'HUNDREDS of amazing experiences… dozens of amazing women.' so it’s clear then, that the system works. So, in other words, we have a man who admits that this sick and immoral system works, yet he ridicules it and tells people not to use it. Isn't that ridiculous?
/r/seduction13/04/26 07:58 PM
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the game stuff (pushpull, teasing etc) isn't actually going to make her sexually attracted if you're not her type - If you’re not her type, you won't even get the chance to ask her much, everything ends in 30 seconds. Forget about push-pull or teasing, those don’t even exist here. You won't even find out her name - When she’s neutral things change. You have the space to run what’s called "game" which in reality is just about having an optimistic, playful, friendly attitude, making jokes and usin…
/r/seduction13/04/26 07:32 PM
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"Agree and amplify" involves taking their statement and pushing it to the extreme until it becomes absurd. It usually turns the whole thing into a joke.
/r/seduction13/04/26 05:14 PM
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Why are you capping?
/r/seduction13/04/26 05:07 PM
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Debatable. I’ve never heard a guy who lacks social skills say "I know so many gambits and openers that I’m at a loss for words." On the contrary, actually knowing what to say gives them a boost of confidence.
/r/seduction13/04/26 10:43 AM
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Ellaborate, tell me how I'm wrong.
/r/seduction12/04/26 07:18 PM
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she seems bored and starts dancing with another guy who’s ugly af Just another reminder that looks aren't everything.
/r/seduction12/04/26 06:13 PM
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Try to figure out why women are even something you want? If you have to ask that, you're gay.
/r/seduction12/04/26 06:10 PM
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The point isn't to learn what to say just to impress her with your knowledge. You learn it for yourself, so you actually know what to say without things getting awkward! If that spark you're talking about is there, great... things will flow easily. But if there’s no spark, at least you’ll know how to back off and exit the situation gracefully. The gym is useless for seduction. You’re not impressing any girls, you’re just impressing other dudes. You don't build social skills at the gym. People sa…
/r/seduction12/04/26 05:54 PM
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NEVER ask difficult questions like "what’s the story behind...?" That is not an easy question. If you were the one being asked, even you would have a hard time answering or you’d just say "nothing special" to get out of it. It’s just not done.
/r/seduction12/04/26 05:44 PM
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Think about it this way, if everything happens too fast, like you see on YouTube where the girl barely gets to know you, doesn't know where you’re from or what you do, then when you leave with her number, you're still just a stranger to her. Why would she want to see you again? The chances are very slim. However, if she learns a few things about you and feels good in your presence during those 5–10 minutes, if you show her you can hold a conversation, that you're friendly, optimistic, playful, t…
/r/seduction12/04/26 10:20 AM
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Flirting with words: These things should always be done as a form of joke... is about dropping a slight sexual innuendo and watch her reaction. You back off at the slightest sign of her being uncomfortable, but you keep pushing things forward as long as there’s no resistance. The easiest method to start with is using double entendres - see this VIDEO how is done. When a girl mentions words like big, long, short, hard, wet .... and so on .... you can make a joke. Another move is to pretend you’ve…
/r/seduction12/04/26 10:03 AM
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There is indeed such a theory, but in reality, it’s just not true anymore. Look at this VIDEO I filmed with a spy cam - she smiled as soon as I started to talk to her... look another VIDEO - the same thing happens (look at the blonde girl, she smiles within 5 seconds. I made a joke, but I got that reaction because they don't understand English at a decent level, not because they are cold).. another VIDEO .... and another VIDEO .... nobody follows that rule about smiling anymore. Maybe it was tru…
/r/seduction11/04/26 05:52 PM
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I see you enjoy scaring guys off, but I can tell things aren't actually as bad as you make them look. You're stereotyping, which is pretty inaccurate. Its rare to find russian women, who if they like their man, won't put in the effort to really take care of their man. It’s the same in every country, not just in Russia. They're used to also competing against other Russian girls It’s the same everywhere, but... that only applies to teenagers. A mature enough woman doesn't overcomplicate things; in…
/r/seduction11/04/26 05:32 PM
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It depends on the type of girl you're talking to. Usually in a local neighborhood bar, you’ll find a certain type of girl for whom money (or just showing signs that you’re well-off like wearing nice clothes) means a lot. All you have to do is strike up a conversation and everything just works; as long as you can string two sentences together, you're good! If you go to a decent bar, money doesn’t carry as much weight anymore, that's where it gets complicated... With a little experience, you can f…
/r/seduction11/04/26 11:17 AM
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That study is weird. They claim only 7% of communication is through what you say, while 38% is tone and voice speed. Now, there's an incongruence here: in order to use a specific tone and speed, you first need to know WHAT to say. Yet they claim only 7% matters... But if I tell you the story of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, it doesn't matter what tone or voice I use, it's obvious I'm not flirting. Of course, I might give a clue with my eyes or facial expressions... showing that I don't actual…
/r/seduction11/04/26 08:18 AM
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I’ve been in game for 5 years but my game has been rusty these days) What???? It makes absolutely no sense to even read any further.
/r/seduction11/04/26 07:50 AM
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they are conservative or not As with everything in this world, some are conservative, some are not... you can't just paint them all with the same brush. Like girls from Western Europe will wanna hook up on first night . In general, if you go to simpler, local neighborhood bars, you'll find girls with a certain status, more easy-going, but also shady guys. When I was in Ukraine, I noticed they respond quite well if they hear you speaking English VIDEO, VIDEO, though you'll still find some who don…
/r/seduction11/04/26 07:46 AM
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If you're cracking jokes, telling funny stories, doing all sorts of playful things, using double entendres, push-pull, negs, qualifying/disqualifying, leading and pacing .... and so on... all of these things make up what is known as "game." How can you even talk to a girl without using these concepts? Can't you see how much of a joke your statement was?
/r/seduction11/04/26 07:22 AM
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Yes it is considered flirting whnever you are using concepts like push-pull, negging, qualifying/disqualifying, leading and pacing, eliciting values, jokes, double entendres, kino escalation... and so on.... and if you are using these concepts, it's called having game. When you approach a girl who likes you and you flirt with her Well... this is the ideal scenario, but in most cases, you won't know if she likes you at some level or not, so you need to talk to her and then figure out where things…
/r/seduction10/04/26 06:35 PM
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How can a girl show any interest if you're not even flirting with her????
/r/seduction10/04/26 06:17 PM
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In real life you can do the same thing, it’s called DHV (Display High Value). The easiest way is to wear nice clothes. I included Dolce Gabana in my outfit, this was what I wore on Feb 14th PHOTO.. everyone says "noooo, you don't need to wear expensive clothes"...but the reality is completely different, girls notice when you wear designer brands, and it speaks volumes. Once you have nice clothes, everything becomes much simpler because of the "halo effect" and any silly story you tell becomes be…
/r/seduction10/04/26 06:05 PM
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You're describing a fictional character, nobody is actually like that. Or maybe James Bond? I know, it was Chuck Norris, but he is no longer with us.
/r/seduction10/04/26 12:41 PM
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maybe you can provide insight as to how I was acting impulsive or emotional. If I were the woman and I saw that you didn't wait, AND I could figure out that you didn't actually have important things to do, I’d say what you're doing is an impulsive decision, an action taken out of resentment. It’s an emotional response. What you did is a case of "framing" but you need a solid foundation if you're going to act tough. Otherwise, it's just a poker bluff.... Men are built around mission and purpose T…
/r/seduction10/04/26 12:28 PM
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In the civilized world, "respect" is earned over time as someone truly gets to know you. You don't get respect by trying to show you're the boss or by keeping up a grumpy, perpetually edgy, and rushed attitude, that actually reveals a deep-seated insecurity. Real respect comes from knowing how to be serious without being rigid, and knowing how to be playful without being ridiculous. It’s about showing you have enough time for her because you actually know how to balance your life between work an…
/r/seduction10/04/26 08:50 AM
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I wonder if maybe the woman knows by instinct that you're not right for her? From what I've read of your writing, you seem very superficial to me and emotionally fragile. She probably reads you better than you think and takes her time to decide whether to take the next step or not. I’ve also spotted a major red flag when it comes to you: "I can understand how her good friends birthday would come first, but at the same time I don't really feel like a priority" think it over once more and see if y…
/r/seduction10/04/26 07:12 AM
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Where are you from if you're this sensitive and terrified of "losing respect"? And what’s this about 'it’s never a good idea to give in to a woman’s compromise'? Where do you even get these ideas? You’re talking about women like they’re some different species, not human beings.
/r/seduction10/04/26 06:09 AM
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The whole point of an opener is to spark a conversation... a starting point from which things can evolve. No one’s going to condemn you if you’re not in the mood to talk. If I looked at you and saw you wearing a pink sweater/shirt/ dress, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to joke and ask: "Is it pink............. your bedroom?" Now, calibration has its role. If I see you have low energy, I won't lead with a joke. But the moment I see open body language and high energy, there’s no problem going fo…
/r/seduction09/04/26 09:37 PM
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It’s a classic that’s actually an "oldie but goodie", those who understand it will appreciate it, others will hate it. Some openers require a bit of social intelligence, it’s not my fault if the guys on Reddit can’t figure out that you need a specific context to use a line like that... BTW, if that girl is actually strong and mature, with a certain social status, she will laugh at your line because your cold read was miles off, which creates a funny moment. If she doesn't have pink walls, she wi…
/r/seduction09/04/26 08:49 PM
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Well, I see you answered my question, which means it’s not as bad as you think. Socializing requires the other person to contribute too, if they’re passive, the conversation dies, it’s no longer a dialogue, just a monologue. I asked a question, you gave me an answer, so you do know how to socialize. The problem might arise if the other person is silent, but even in this case you can still comment on her reaction: "Are you meditating, or is it something very important you are thinking about?" Don…
/r/seduction09/04/26 08:26 PM
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I know what depression is, and I assume you have medication for it. If you take your meds and follow the treatment, then the depression is under control... As for autism, I’m not sure what to say. I don’t really understand what it is, and I don't know anyone who has it. Why exactly are they saying you have autism?
/r/seduction09/04/26 07:25 PM
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In bus stations or in the park, when I see a lady sitting on a bench, I tell her: "I wonder if the paint is dry yet? A guy was painting it about an hour ago." It’s obviously a joke, and you will get a reaction. The moment you get that reaction, you already have something to comment on...
/r/seduction09/04/26 06:40 PM
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"is it pink?" anywhere because that's just a stupid thing to say. You might not know the context and it sounds stupid, but "Is it pink?" is actually a classic opener... You follow it up with "Your bedroom. I bet you have pink walls or fluffy pink pillows. You have exactly that vibe of a girl who still keeps a teddy bear from her childhood". It's most effective when she's wearing something pink (for congruency) otherwise, it might sound weird. But as Mystery said, it's a "high risk, high reward" …
/r/seduction09/04/26 05:23 PM
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Your post says a lot, but it's all in vain, it’s like explaining quantum physics to kindergarteners.
/r/seduction09/04/26 01:16 PM
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I don't believe you’re of legal drinking age... am I right?
/r/seduction09/04/26 01:12 PM
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Nice guys vs. bad boys, scarcity vs. abundance, pursuing vs. attracting, you being the prize vs. not putting her on a pedestal, high value vs. low value... alpha vs. beta, and so on.... it’s always about extremes. The reality is that no extreme is good. You simply need a bit of everything to find an equilibrium, a balance, and in that moment, all these concepts vanish. - Look at jokes, funny stories, compliments... why do they even exist? To create a good vibe but if you overdo them, it’s just a…
/r/seduction09/04/26 12:26 PM
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This whole "think fast, act fast" thing is nonsense. That’s not how you learn, you don’t just throw yourself into the middle of a problem and hope you’ll eventually find a way to escape. You learn through small, frequent successes. That is how self-confidence is created, and that is how real courage is built.
/r/seduction08/04/26 03:44 PM
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Self-amusement is tricky I said it many times on this sub because nobody talks about it properly. Everyone assumes that by using self-amusement, you automatically do the right things... which is far from the truth. It's nice and funny for a few minutes, but then, instead of attracting people, you’re actually pushing them away. You can't do it without calibration. You’re a hair’s breadth away from people thinking you’re laughing at them... If you make jokes that others don’t get, it’s a major pro…
/r/seduction08/04/26 11:06 AM
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Too many rules... that's not a good sign. start talking to random people the moment you enter the club. Theoretically yes, but actually what happens is the quickes way to become known as the guy who is drunk or high. No guy with a certain status will actually do this. You make that warm up on the street, with your friends, talking on the phone, you do all these things BEFORE you enter the club. project your voice. Do I need some device? How TF can I project my voice? Can you explain the mechaism…
/r/seduction08/04/26 10:29 AM
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Mate, I'm doing just fine VIDEO, VIDEO, VIDEO.... that was filmed 3-4 years ago when I was in Ukraine. I'm only 170 cm and now I'm 47 years old, but I’m still dating ladies in their 20s while most guys are saying it's impossible. What works for a handsome guy, you as an average guy cannot replicate because you will get a completely different reaction. Once you accept that, you can get rid of a lot of seduction concepts that simply don't work IRL.... That's what I've been trying to say all along.
/r/seduction07/04/26 04:26 PM
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I'm talking to a brick wall... best of luck.
/r/seduction07/04/26 04:00 PM
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Are you saying guys who have abundance are reaction seeking? Abundance mentality means balance, balance in everything you do. You stay indifferent and passive only up to a certain point, and then you stop, because too much of anything is a bad thing. Reaction seeking = awkward moments and silences ... Not at all... there’s no way there will be silence or awkward moments because those are exactly what you're avoiding. You’re not getting the reaction you want? Move on... try something else. Still …
/r/seduction07/04/26 01:45 PM
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I also tried to hit on girls who don't speak the same language - is not possible. Seeking a reaction is mandatory... of course, there are exceptions, but in 8 out of 10 cases, seeking a reaction is a must. You can't just do whatever you want and expect to get a positive response on top of that. Look at addicts, they do exactly what they want, and to them, it feels fine, but you can see for yourself that in most cases, what they're doing is wrong. who cares what they think. Like any theory, if it…
/r/seduction07/04/26 12:42 PM
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say and do things that is funny to you first. Do you see how incredibly vague and generic that advice is? It tells you absolutely nothing about how to actually handle a real-life conversation. Basically it tells you to laugh at your own jokes... That is why it is best to talk about things that interests you. Have you ever talked to someone and actually done this? I love opera and symphonies, let’s see how interested people who don't care about opera or symphonies are going to be in my ideas.... …
/r/seduction07/04/26 12:04 PM
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Can they sense desperation and insecurity from miles away? They must have some secret device or grow antennas we don’t know about.. It’s a total lie invented by the people selling you self-improvement and self-help courses. Women are just people with no special powers. They read people and sense energy exactly the same way you do when you talk to someone.
/r/seduction07/04/26 11:39 AM
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What "old school" methods have you tried that you’re 100% sure don't work anymore?
/r/seduction06/04/26 06:46 PM
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When I suggest a routine/gambit to someone, everyone starts shouting: "Nooooo, you’re not being genuine, you’re not honest, you sound robotic, it’s a script!"... but when it’s a literal fucking robot that generate a script, everyone loves it: "Yesssss, smart, clever, so good, absolutely perfect!" This sub is a joke.
/r/seduction06/04/26 08:19 AM
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when it comes to the second step like flirting or showing interest, that’s when I freeze. I can't find a better example of how to push things forward than using double entendres, like Craig Ferguson does in this VIDEO. Whenever a girl mentions words like big, long, short, wet, black ..etc.... you can use a double entendre... you're basically saying something "nasty" without actually saying it.... ...is the simplest way to escalate. . I think part is being afraid of rejection and being seen as a …
/r/seduction05/04/26 03:34 PM
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but if you had to pull out a few main subjects what would be the go to? It’s always a mix of improvisation and rehearsed material basically, jokes told as personal anecdotes, even if I never actually experienced them. In the first few minutes, you’ve only got the basic questions to work with: Where are you from? Who are you here with? What do you do for a living? ... you are forced to comment her reply or her reaction... "You’re from XYZ? No way! A buddy of mine went there and... [insert a funny…
/r/seduction05/04/26 01:39 PM
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I also want to develop a standard formula I can use in a vacuum to fall back on. If you're holding a drink, just make eye contact and say 'Cheers!' while raising your glass to toast them. Honestly, I don't know an easier opener than this one. Then you follow up with: 'I'm here with my friends at that table, come join us later' that's it, and then you walk away. You do this in two steps because if you try to do it all at once, it’s too much, the pressure is too high, and the odds of being rejecte…
/r/seduction05/04/26 12:34 PM
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For the first category, there are exercises called "exposure therapy" ...all kinds of small, simple things you are told to do depending on your level of fear. Some people need to start from zero, but for others, many of these steps can be skipped if you're already comfortable. If you can’t handle those basic exercises, you might need professional assistance from a therapist; at that point, it’s not a game anymore. These exercises give you the confidence to just say "Hi" but you're not done yet. …
/r/seduction05/04/26 08:09 AM
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I love this story from Mystery. I was at this restaurant, finished my meal, had a few drinks, and went to the restroom. When I came back and asked for the check, the waiter told me it had already been paid for. He wouldn't say by whom. I looked around and saw this guy at a table with his friends across the room, staring at us and smirking. I was 100% sure it was him, so I started walking toward his table. The whole time, he’s just sitting there, smiling and nodding at me. I got right up to him a…
/r/seduction04/04/26 09:19 PM
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As u/tattooedpanhead said start telling stories about yourself that never actually happened... but depending on the vibe, you can either exaggerate to create a funny moment or tell it as if it actually happened to you but in that case, make sure the stories have a solid punchline. You only need 3 - 4 of these stories ready to go, and then you just find a way to weave them into the conversation. Other ways to change the vibe is using double entendres like in this VIDEO Whenever a girl mentions wo…
/r/seduction04/04/26 08:43 PM
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I want to add that it’s not always what you say but how you say it At this point, we’re entering 'kindergarten level' territory by teaching someone HOW to say a specific thing. It’s ridiculous to have to teach a grown-up man how to express his own desire. Even a toddler knows that if you say "Okay, fine" it can be a good thing, but if you change your tone, it can mean sadness or disappointment. However, you have to realize that in order to say something in a specific way, you first need to know …
/r/seduction04/04/26 07:57 PM
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It’s hilarious how people oversimplify things and then cut off the explanation exactly where it gets important. Everyone in this field knows that what you say after "hi" is what actually counts, not the "hi" itself... and guess what? That’s exactly the piece of information that’s missing.
/r/seduction04/04/26 05:28 PM
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Are we admitting there's a structure here, or are we still pretending there isn't?
/r/seduction04/04/26 03:11 PM
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There are no 'steps'. Doesn't every conversation follow a structure like beginning - middle - end? So, isn't there always a starting point, like an opener, for example as you said 'hi'? Wait, isn't that the very first thing you do? And if there’s always a "first thing" then that’s an opener which means we already have a step, a beginning. After opener there is no transitions into normal small talk? Do not exist transitions? What about telling a joke, a funny story, or making a comment about her …
/r/seduction04/04/26 02:58 PM
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You're putting too much emphasis on body language when, in fact, all you need are the basics you learn in kindergarten: don't put your finger in your mouth/nose, don't keep your hands in your pockets, don't fidget, don't scratch yourself, don't slouch... so, what exactly would be new?
/r/seduction03/04/26 07:56 PM
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What exactly is outdated in that book? Can you list 2-3 things other than technology?
/r/seduction03/04/26 07:53 PM
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Double entendres are a component of flirting. As an example, I direct people to watch that video to see how they are used. It’s the easiest way to escalate and add a playful vibe to a conversation with a woman. It’s much easier to understand how it works by seeing it in action, rather than just trying to figure out how to use double entendres on your own.
/r/seduction03/04/26 04:48 PM
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Exposure therapy to treat someone with a phobia of spiders doesn't mean forcing them to hold a spider in their hands right away. It means starting with drawings of spiders, then looking at photos, then toy spiders, then dead spiders from a distance, then moving closer to them, then holding a dead spider... and so on. It involves many small steps until you can finally hold a living spider. That is what exposure therapy is all about. Talking to a girl using exposure therapy involves a series of ex…
/r/seduction03/04/26 02:37 PM
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The OP was scheduled for October 2026, that’s the product he paid for, and it isn't October 2026 yet. It will only be a scam after October if Daniel Nicoletti fails to show up for the coaching... but it's only April.. So... what exactly are you talking about? What scamming? What rip-off??
/r/seduction03/04/26 02:10 PM
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I don't know if you can get a refund. There’s no scamming involved so far... it's only you who changed your mind, it's not Daniel Nicoletti’s fault. However I'm curious, do you like Daniel Nicoletti's style of approach? Do you see yourself doing exactly what he does? And in terms of looks, are you on the same level as him? If a good-looking guy and an average guy say the exact same thing, that sentence will be perceived in two completely different ways. Many times, and I mean most of the time, y…
/r/seduction03/04/26 01:50 PM
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didn’t get what you paid for. But this is a lie. He was scheduled for October 2026.
/r/seduction03/04/26 01:43 PM
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It depends on what you want to learn. What I find interesting might be totally mundane to others because people are different. you simply can't rely on what people say.
/r/seduction03/04/26 01:32 PM
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"Being real" implies having a lot of qualities that you might actually lack and if you don't have them, the chances of becoming a likable person are extremely slim. So, what’s your solution? Do you embrace the idea of "this is just who I am, I won't change, and if you don't like it, leave" or do you become a chameleon, shaping yourself to be liked by as many people as possible, hoping that from those many opportunities, something beautiful will eventually happen? So, you have two choices: one is…
/r/seduction03/04/26 12:52 PM
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Dude stop thinking about it like a math equation. .... [..].... "It's all about charm" But how do you show charm? If you try to explain it, you’ll see that charm is made of jokes, funny stories, DHV/DLV, qualifying/disqualifying, push-pull, negging... all these things. When you put them all together, they make up what we call 'charm'. See the irony? The deeper you dig, the longer the explanations get, and whether you like it or not, you end up including those concepts that people claim are outda…
/r/seduction03/04/26 12:17 PM
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My example with Mila Kunis and Craig Ferguson is meant to show exactly what double entendres are. In just those two minutes, they use 3-4 double-meaning sentences, it's a perfect example, so everyone can get an idea of how it's done. It doesn't matter whether it’s staged or not, it’s still a great example instead of saying to someone "use double entenders" ...and then leave everything hanging in the air without any examples... nothing.
/r/seduction03/04/26 12:04 PM
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A few years ago, I saw you in a YouTube video where a guy asked what to say to a group of girls in a bar. You told him it’s a simple "Cheers!" just toasting them by raising your glass while making eye contact. I stole that opener... it works wonders! There's nothing easier than that.
/r/seduction03/04/26 09:19 AM
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In short, you're right, but even a 10 minute convo is miles away from that initial step of: "I want to talk to her... but WTF am I even supposed to say? "
/r/seduction03/04/26 08:30 AM
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Exposure Therapy is the key, rather than forcing yourself to talk to a girl when you aren't comfortable. For this reason, there are various levels of exercises derived from Exposure Therapy. These range from doing socially awkward things, like lying down on the street to watch the sky, to clapping your hands while walking, playing with a ball on the street...dropping money in front of a lady, and so on. Everything depends on the guy’s level of fear. Sometimes, many steps can be skipped, and afte…
/r/seduction03/04/26 07:52 AM
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So, in your philosophy, you heal someone with a fear of spiders by forcing them to hold one in their hand. Do you realize how flawed that logic is? Honestly, I’m surprised there are so many people embracing this method, when in reality, it’s one of the worst approaches out there. you don’t need more theory, you just need to get used to it I’ve yet to hear anyone say: "I know so much theory that I’m too smart to have the courage to approach someone." Instead, I always hear the opposite: "I don’t …
/r/seduction02/04/26 10:37 PM
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A few years ago, RSD Tyler, RSD Todd (Todd V) and other dating coaches shaved their heads. There was absolutely no change in their approach the success rate remained exactly the same with or without hair. That says a lot, but many guys are still delusional when it comes to how much looks actually matter.
/r/seduction02/04/26 10:23 PM
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There is no perfect/correct way to approach a girl... that’s the good news. But the bad news is that you need a basic understanding of social cues, you have to see when a specific line or something you do makes the other person uncomfortable. Do you want to approach her while everyone is watching? Everyone says "YES! GO AHEAD!" but I say no! Maybe you don't care BUT if the girl is even slightly shy, all your chances are blown because of that silly bravery of yours. You put her in an awkward spot…
/r/seduction02/04/26 10:18 PM
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Practice what? There are 100 girls, am I supposed to approach every single one of them?
/r/seduction02/04/26 09:48 PM
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It’s a myth that it’s easier. When a girl is alone, you can say or do whatever you want and gauge her reaction directly. In a group, it only takes one girl to look uninterested or find something you said creepy, and you’re cooked, the "herd mentality" automatically kicks in (where one goes, they all go).
/r/seduction02/04/26 01:10 PM
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How do I even know if I stand a chance? Since they’re so subtle, how can I tell if there’s an actual green light or if I'm just misreading the situation?
/r/seduction02/04/26 12:54 PM
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Where are you from? I'm from Romania.
/r/seduction02/04/26 12:48 PM
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You talk about how easy it is once you already have plenty of female friends and sure, you're right, there are a lot of benefits... but tell me, how do I get just one girlfriend to start with? What if, instead of that pompous "aesthetic" word, you focus on simply making a great first impression? You can make a solid impression just with the basics, you can change your whole vibe in an hour just by getting a decent haircut, wearing nice clothes, being clean, smelling good... etc Yes, roasting is …
/r/seduction02/04/26 11:56 AM
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English isn't my native language, so I’m not sure if I explained it right. It never actually happens on the first date, it’s always the second or third. I always try for the pull on the first date, but it just doesn't work out that soon.
/r/seduction02/04/26 07:09 AM
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I said "it is almost whenever I have an opportunity" I can't give you a specific number, sometimes I'm just not in the mood, but in a week, let's say about 5-15 times. how many times have you gone for the pull early on on the first or second date? Always, I try every single time but realistically, it’s only worked out 6 times so far this year.
/r/seduction01/04/26 07:16 PM
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How many approaches? Plenty actually it is almost whenever I have an opportunity, it’s always a casual comment nothing crazy and escalating from there. For example, a few hours ago at the supermarket, I saw a girl looking at the coffee shelf. I simply asked: "Excuse me, what’s the price on that? I forgot my glasses at home" She told me and then turned her back to me. Another time, I did the exact same thing and walked away with a phone number. These are simple, normal girls, you can tell just by…
/r/seduction01/04/26 06:35 PM
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I met the last woman I slept with at a department store, I have plenty of reasons to put your example in a SCI-FI category because a lot of things just don't add up... at least not here in Romania, where I’m from. However just because an exception exists in 1 out of 100 cases, it doesn't invalidate the majority. What "kind" of woman is she? Has it ever happened to you? You introduce your new girlfriend to a friend, only to find out they already know each other and later, your friend tells you he…
/r/seduction01/04/26 05:09 PM
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Ton of work It depends on the OP’s current social skills. If his skills are low, it's difficult; he needs to learn jokes, funny stories, and all kinds of transitions to weave those stories into a normal conversation. He also needs to know how to progressively escalate... things like that. The method you're suggesting, which everyone seems to love, involves not learning anything at all. And of course they love it! 'Just be yourself! Don't learn a thing! Say whatever comes to mind!' It sounds awes…
/r/seduction01/04/26 12:35 PM
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It's like saying, Here’s how to make money on YouTube: - Create a channel - Upload videos - Make them go viral - Get paid and become a millionaire. There is a ton of work in between those steps. Before OP even goes out to approach five girls, there is a long road ahead.
/r/seduction01/04/26 12:18 PM
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A woman can go on 3 or 4 dates with Bobby and sleep with Eric the first night she meets him Sure, some women (that belongs to a certain category) will sleep with Eric but most high-quality girls don't want to be just a statistic.... things won't escalate that fast. If you're looking for the type of girls who sleep with Eric, you just need to open your eyes and go to the places where they hang out. The only difference between the two guys is her level of sexual attraction. It’s a statement that s…
/r/seduction01/04/26 11:23 AM
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OP asked a question because he has a problem. You were supposed to know the answer, but instead of helping, you told him to "go out and find yourself"... Real helpful, buddy.
/r/seduction01/04/26 10:53 AM
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Elaborate.
/r/seduction01/04/26 07:46 AM
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It’s a mistake to talk about "success rate" because not every day is the same. You could approach one girl and be in the bathroom with her 15 minutes later... does that make it 1/1? Approaching 100 girls is just gambling. You don’t do that unless your social skills are extremely low and you’re unable to read basic social cues. However, approaching an industrial number of girls is a widespread method, and many people like it because it requires zero skill. You’re just testing your luck with somet…
/r/seduction31/03/26 04:24 PM
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I live in a city of about 120k people. Initially, I thought it was too small, but it's actually huge! The "numbers game" is a flawed theory that doesn't apply in most cases because it is not a normal way of approaching a stranger. The real way to approach is through indirect, situational, or observational openers and building the interaction from there. When you go indirect, you're seen as a social guy rather than a threat. Then, the moment the girl starts opening up and becomes talkative, the d…
/r/seduction31/03/26 03:51 PM
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If it works for you, keep doing what you're doing. In my case, at 47, just "being myself" doesn't cut it. I write for the guys who aren't as gifted as you, you're clearly a master, hats off to you! No jealousy here... EDIT: I'm not a dating coach
/r/seduction31/03/26 12:48 PM
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be yourself, women that are right for you will like that Good luck finding those women! It's like running a restaurant with only one item on the menu. Do you really think you’ll survive selling nothing but beef soup? You’ve got to be a chameleon and adapt to what’s trending, otherwise, you're going bust. The theory is fine, but in real life, it just doesn't work. learn to improve yourself without expectation of results Why go to the gym and hope for big muscles, to lock yourself in your room and…
/r/seduction29/03/26 03:29 PM
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I honestly thought I figured that method out myself... but I'm not surprised if someone else got there first. Last New Year’s Eve, I placed my scarf around the neck of a lady who was standing outside. I thought I had discovered a brand-new opener, but two months later I saw Mystery in a podcasd describing that exact same move... You can't predict the reaction you'll get, some women will love it, others won't. But instead of doing nothing and expecting a reaction from thin air, it’s much better t…
/r/seduction29/03/26 01:35 PM
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I have to have a lot better game How do you define "having game"? In my theory, there are two phases. The first is about having a playful attitude, knowing how to joke, and using double entendres like in this VIDEO or stuff like these VIDEO, VIDEO - Then, in just a few minutes as part of the "game", comes the escalation phase, if you’re getting a good reaction. You just have to look at her and read her vibe, because 99% of the time, you can tell if you should push things forward or if it's bette…
/r/seduction29/03/26 11:01 AM
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Asking her name ... there is no need, maybe after 3-5 minutes if she is talkative. I asked gpt for advice Chatgpt is programmed to give you answers aligned with morality and social norms, but reality is different. You play by the rules, but the cheaters come in and win. I’ve figured out an easy method for spinning. During the conversation, ask her what she does for a living or where is she from. Once she answers, you say: "I don’t believe you. You don’t look like a hairstylist. Let me take a bet…
/r/seduction29/03/26 10:15 AM
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This is just like asking "How do I make $1,000 a week?" Start a YouTube channel. Find a niche. Make some videos. Go viral. Get paid by YouTube. Easy peasy!
/r/seduction29/03/26 09:56 AM
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There are a lot of gambits/routines that help you navigate such situations. The easiest one is to find a pretext to get her closer, job done! What kind of pretext? tell her "I want to show you something" (like a magic trick or palm reading), or pretend you have something in your eye and get closer so she can check if there’s any dust in it... there are hundreds of ways to get closer. Most of the time, a beginner has a special talent for making a simple thing much harder than it actually is. So, …
/r/seduction28/03/26 05:46 PM
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The only cure is saying something. Even better if you embarrass yourself. It’s the ultimate oversimplification. They tell you: "it doesn't matter what you say, just say something." As a dating coach, this would mean I no longer have to bother teaching you gambits, openers, transitions, DHV stories, escalation stories ...etc etc, the advice is simple: just open your mouth and whatever comes out is fine because "content doesn't matter but your energy, attitude etc etc" This idea is so widespread t…
/r/seduction28/03/26 02:39 PM
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It depends on your goal. - Are you looking for a LTR? Then lying is a bad idea. - Are you just looking for a hookup? Then lying is part of the 'game.' I’ve been on this subreddit for 4-5 years telling everyone to use DHV, gambits and to include some stories, even if they aren't true, because that’s just how it’s done. If you think a girl will agree to go out with you for EXACTLY who you are... well, you’d have to be extremely lucky to find a soulmate like that. In reality, you need to be like wa…
/r/seduction24/03/26 04:37 PM
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Even in real life, it’s like a sales job where you are the product. You have to market yourself (present yourself) as best as you can... there’s just no other way around it.
/r/seduction24/03/26 02:51 PM
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Creative & funny openers that link with their profile is always better over a generic "Hey how you doing" You know that guy who goes to the gym for the first time and starts giving advice to the pros on how to get bigger? That’s pretty much where we’re at right now.
/r/seduction24/03/26 02:48 PM
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Romania
/r/seduction24/03/26 07:19 AM
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Do you approach them in clubs? I’m 47 from Romania and here’s how I see things. Outside the building near the club is the right place (away from the loud, drunk teens). Actually, grocery stores are highly underrated. I've become an expert at hitting on women there, there are plenty of ways to manufacture a reason to talk to anyone and once you have a context, it’s smooth as silk. But for a quick hook up the best bet is still outside the club on weekends. Quick means next day, 99% of the time. Ho…
/r/seduction23/03/26 09:38 PM
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Again Shawty App BS
/r/seduction21/03/26 06:16 PM
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You need progressive desensitization exercises. Real progress comes from small, repeated wins, not from failures! It’s hard to give you a specific drill without knowing your comfort zone, at what point do you start feeling out of place? I need more info, or else I'm just giving you generic advice that won't actually work.
/r/seduction21/03/26 01:05 PM
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It doesn't matter if you're a head-turner or not. I know it’s hard to believe because "looksmaxxing" is so trendy right now, but it’s just the feminization of men (it seems like this trend originated in Korea or Japan.)... it turns a man into a flower, hoping the bees will be attracted to him. Ideally, you’d want a BMI of 30 but right now, you're at 44, and that's a lot... it’s not good. You have to put in a massive effort to compensate for what doesn't look right. You need a decent haircut, clo…
/r/seduction21/03/26 08:11 AM
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If a 20-year-old is still playing with toy cars like a 10-year-old, wouldn't you say there's something wrong with him? In the same way, a 30-year-old stuck in 20-year-old habits is a major red flag, it’s a lack of growth and a clear sign of immaturity. However, sometimes, on certain occasions, it looks funny and playful, it’s even recommended to do silly things. But you need to know when too much is too much.
/r/seduction20/03/26 12:49 PM
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For arms, there are proven exercises that just work. If someone wants to play genius and invent new ones, that's on them, but there’s a blueprint you must follow and you'll get big arms, whether you listen to outside "advice" or not.... In seduction, people hide behind vague, debatable concepts because of their superficial understanding of the subject. Once you have a concrete "to-do" list, there’s no room for debate. You might see minor tweaks or improvements later, but the core list works rega…
/r/seduction19/03/26 07:50 AM
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"just be yourself" That sentence is so vague that if you asked 100 guys, you’d get 100 different replies about the same concept. That’s exactly how you know it’s BS.
/r/seduction18/03/26 08:43 PM
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That 7 years old kid only hands over a "you're cute" note because he’s seen it before. In 99.9% of cases, that idea doesn't just appear out of thin air, unless the kid is a genius. So he’s just using a "stolen" idea that’s the theory before the practice I talk about. You and a lot of other guys assume everyone starts with good social skills and has no need for theory, no gambits, no pieces of advice, no methods, no techinques, nothing .. well, you’d be surprised how many guys don't have that fou…
/r/seduction18/03/26 08:20 PM
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Walking and talking are instincts, but developing social skills is a complex result of multiple factors: age, maturity, education, work environment, family, friends etc Everyone’s background is different. Sure, some become those "natural funny guys" you mention, but many others never develop those skills, for this reason it makes no sense to mention those "naturals". Now, if a guy with poor social skills wants to change his life, how do you actually teach him? You have to realize that he isn't d…
/r/seduction18/03/26 07:15 PM
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In every single field in this world, it’s always theory first, practice second. This "learning by trial and error" is just a way for dating coaches to avoid explaining the details, either is about their incompetence or it's just laziness. Imagine a guy asking a simple question, and instead of telling him "do this, do that" you start some theory about how what you say doesn't matter... that it's not what you say, but how you say it... be genuine....bla bla bla. It’s crazy! At the end of the theor…
/r/seduction18/03/26 05:12 PM
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What you said belongs to the "lone wolf" syndrome.... You try to do everything , self-help, self-improvement, completely on your own. It works best for teens, it is about adrenaline.... as a marketing method is perfect. In reality you waste your time trying to reinvent the wheel and you’re trading years of your life just to prove a point.... is the longest and the most painful route possible.
/r/seduction18/03/26 10:43 AM
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I get looks from women whenever I run shirtless It’s nothing special... it’s not because of your muscles or anything extraordinary you did, it’s simply the fact that you’re running shirtless that grabs attention. Lack of idea of what to say. That’s why there are scripts structured with a clear beginning -middle - end. It’s impossible to condense a 10- 20 pages into just a few lines saying what consist the beginning stage, what consist the middle and how to end a conversation. a lack of certain c…
/r/seduction17/03/26 09:56 AM
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I Literally just find a opener on here thats been proven to have a high success rate for other guys if it works for them it will work for me too You hit the nail on the head! This is exactly what I keep saying, why reinvent the wheel? Why waste time learning from embarrassing mistakes and dozens of failed attempts when you can just copy what already works and then tweak it to fit your own personality? I’m sure the trolls will jump in now, claiming you’ll sound robotic, or that you're not being "…
/r/seduction17/03/26 08:39 AM
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Just curious do you consider it good or bad advice to tell a man in his 30s that has a certain status with a decent job: "approach 1000 girls", "move to a bigger city", "go to the gym", "have a DGAF attitude", "be blunt about your intentions" , "be bold and say a direct opener", "approach any girl you like" ?
/r/seduction16/03/26 07:48 PM
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At 18, they’re chasing adrenaline, so every piece of advice is geared toward that rush. Think about the tips you see here: "approach 1,000 girls", "move to a bigger city", "go to the gym", "say whatever you want", "DGAF attitude"... it’s all about the hype. Even a direct opener is just an adrenaline spike. All of that works when you’re young but when you reach a certain age and status, you can’t afford to play that way anymore.
/r/seduction16/03/26 03:56 PM
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Acting like an 18 when you're 30+ is a completely different story.
/r/seduction16/03/26 03:03 PM
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You're joking, right?
/r/seduction14/03/26 12:30 PM
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Nowadays, you never know when a skinny guy might pull a gun or a girl might pull out pepper spray and you're cooked. Being jacked, learning MMA, or being strong and brave just doesn't make sense anymore.... those things worked in the past, but now they have no real value.... If a guy has big biceps, only another man will be impressed, not a girl! If a person prefers eating hamburgers, doing drugs, and wasting their nights on porn, that's their life and their business. If they feel good as they a…
/r/seduction14/03/26 12:14 PM
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If you're a moral person, I wish you all the best!
/r/seduction13/03/26 01:44 PM
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Why not just wait for her near the exit? When she walks out and spots you there, eye contact is 100% guaranteed. She’ll recognize you instantly, and you already have common ground to talk about... it doesn't get any easier than that.
/r/seduction13/03/26 09:08 AM
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OMFG, again that silly APP I do daygame. No... there's no way you do daygame. I’m 100% sure about that.
/r/seduction13/03/26 07:52 AM
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Asking for directions is the easiest way in, the goal it's to stay in the conversation longer. Here’s how you layer it: - at first: "Excuse me, is XYZ that way? OK, thanks!" - next time insert a deliberatly mistake: Excuse me, is XYZ that way?... So, it’s to the right? Oh, you said left? Got it, thanks!" - then add another little words: "Excuse me, is XYZ that way?... So, it’s to the right? Oh, left? Okay... Is near a bar ..Thanks!" - next time you can add a question: " Excuse me, is XYZ that wa…
/r/seduction13/03/26 07:23 AM
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Flirting means making all kinds of jokes, gestures, remarks to a girl where she doesn't get upset, but actually gives you a positive reaction... The easiest way to become playful is to include in your conversation double meaning sentences like you can see in this video with Mila Kunis and Craig Ferguson - VIDEO it is very easy to start from this point. There are also a bunch of routines/gambits created for this moment, example VIDEO, VIDEO.... Nowadays, people don't post this kind of stuff becau…
/r/seduction12/03/26 07:48 PM
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We don't divide people into those with 'tism and everyone else. From my point of view we categorize them as beginners (with very low social skills), intermediate (who have sufficient skills but lack motivation) and the rest ... The guy who claims that HOW you say it is what matters should really add a disclaimer otherwise he is just waffling. He should specify that this advice is for guys who don't realize that a phrase like "OK, fine" can change meaning completely based on tonality, it could me…
/r/seduction12/03/26 10:09 AM
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I always find it funny when someone says that 'it's not important WHAT you say, but HOW you say it.' You shouldn't have to teach a grown man how to act while speaking, this is ridiculous.
/r/seduction11/03/26 07:49 PM
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A jacked up guy thats a natural with women and is socially savvy, Since when did being jacked up become mandatory?
/r/seduction11/03/26 07:27 PM
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It's all about the context. Without it, everything feels forced and difficult.... Deep down in your mind, you know it's not okay, but everything changes when there is context. Learn how to create the context to say a certain thing, and everything becomes much easier.
/r/seduction11/03/26 04:03 PM
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Interesting take, but try the opposite, because usually, everyone exaggerates what they do. Let me give you an example: I finished a 5-minute project on my PC? OMG! You have no idea how hard I worked! I put in so much effort, I feel like I've been breaking rocks in a quarry. I need rest, a massage, a holliday....to recover... I dressed myself poorly thinking ohh those things does not matter they know how great I am This is stupidity. Actually, you trigger the "Horn Effect". If a guy is poorly dr…
/r/seduction11/03/26 09:26 AM
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Just look, smile. Done. You did it. Well... it’s not that easy. Can you really just look at someone and smile? You know, that’s actually worse than saying something. She’ll think you’re about to speak but then you just smile and walk away... how does that even look? That's what I'm saying.
/r/seduction11/03/26 09:06 AM
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If that's how you feel, why do you still want to go through with it? It’s almost masochistic, like, I don’t enjoy it, but I do it anyway. doing a bad, embarrassing, cringy approach + getting ignored You said you use direct openers but that’s not a normal way to start a conversation with a stranger. Most of the time a strong opener triggers a strong (and not always good) reaction. Also, you won't always get a positive reaction because women on the street aren't always high-energy or enthusiastic.…
/r/seduction11/03/26 08:48 AM
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ideally one much better looking than me. Curious, why do you feel the need to study someone better looking than you? What are you trying to find out? From my point of view, what works for him won't work for you. It’s like trying to train in athletics with pro runners while you're still a beginnerm you’ll be left miles behind and won't learn a thing. I’m not good-looking myself, but everyone says "just be confident, direct, bold etc"... well, I can tell you with total confidence that it’s a bunch…
/r/seduction11/03/26 08:20 AM
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his approach in a few seconds looks far from impressive: A normal approach isn't impressive. Women on the street aren't always full of energy and life, so their reactions won't always be enthusiastic.
/r/seduction11/03/26 08:12 AM
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You think everybody has things to talk about with random people, prepped up beforehand? I split people into two groups. You have the guys with zero social skills, and then the guys who are socially calibrated enough to improvise on the fly. Now, who really needs the scripts and the gambits? Obviously, the first group, not the second. A guy from the first group has no way of approaching a stranger without at least some basic preparation It doesn’t matter what you say, it’s your energy. You didn't…
/r/seduction05/03/26 06:34 PM
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Sure, it’s partially true, but it's incomplete. Most people just parrot the idea like it's some universal law but it' is so vague and general that everyone interprets it differently. That’s exactly how you know it’s a BS.
/r/seduction05/03/26 06:19 PM
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It's not about what you say....it's HOW you say it.... To use your voice, atitude and your body properly, you first need to know WHAT you're talking about. You can have the best tonality in the world, but if you fail to deliver social intelligence, humor or value within 30 seconds - 1 minute, you’re cooked.
/r/seduction05/03/26 04:44 PM
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Notice the irnoy? Thousands of words, yet zero substance. That’s the problem with the RSD doctrine people buy into it, but at the end of the day, it’s a complete waste of time and total nonsense... You’re trapped in these RSD teachings, but they assume the student already possesses basic social skills (which is a wrong assumption).Let me expose just one widespread fallacy to show you why these RSD teachings are a complete waste of time It’s not about what you say, but how you say it. This theory…
/r/seduction05/03/26 03:50 PM
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Looking good only buys you an advantage of 30 seconds to a minute. The moment you speak and reveal weak social skills, everything you gained disappears. I saw a podcast with Clavicular where several girls rated him, they gave him 6-7-8-9. But one girl said that while he was physically an 8, after hearing him talk, he was no more than a 3.
/r/seduction05/03/26 02:37 PM
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talk about anything you like basically. .... you just started talking about things that interest you. Sure, that works for 30 seconds. But keep talking about yourself and you'll watch her interest vanish. Why should they care about your hobbies? For a short time yes but You say your piece, then you pivot... but then what? Now what do you do? you really only wanna have people that like you for being you, Being 100% yourself and finding someone who accepts that without any filters or adjustments..…
/r/seduction05/03/26 02:25 PM
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how do I become popular fast. There are two problems in a single sentence. You’re thinking in extremes: black or white, day or night, big or small, popular or nobody. This is a flawed mindset. There’s no need to be popular or a VIP, the goal is to aim for it, but to feel good about yourself at every stage of the journey. The second problem: not only you need to fight to accept where you are (as I said above), but you’ve also put yourself on a clock. Now you're dealing with two problems instead o…
/r/seduction05/03/26 09:12 AM
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Your post is a kind of how to own a hotel? It’s simple, just buy it, bro or "how to stop being poor?" Just make money. Don't be lazy. in order to get better at talking to women you have to actually talk to women. This is about the practice you need AFTER mastering the basics (theory). It’s like getting in the ring with a pro fighter before you even know how to throw a punch. You might figure it out in a few months or years, but you'll take a lot of unnecessary hits and waste time reinventing the…
/r/seduction05/03/26 08:36 AM
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Any supermarket or hypermarket works, but you have to be clever about it. Stay outside and watch who’s accompanied and who’s not, those 5-10 minutes of observation work wonders. Of course, it’s not exactly polite and moral to write this because it feels like you're playing dirty, but if it works, why not?
/r/seduction04/03/26 11:28 PM
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Think about a taxi driver who says he only takes passengers from here to XYZ. Do you think he’d have customers every day, or just one a month, maybe one a year? You're doing the same thing.. You're stuck in your comfort zone, doing only what you enjoy and hoping for the best without adjusting. I don't get this mindset, it’s fundamentally flawed and relies way too much on pure luck.
/r/seduction04/03/26 10:14 PM
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You're right he is 5'11 which is 180 I wanted to say RSD Max, that guy is 170 My Mistake.
/r/seduction04/03/26 08:25 PM
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Does it bother you? I'm 169 and I don't see any issue with it. It’s perfect! Phil Heitlinger is 165cm and couldn't care less. Neil Strauss is 168cm, Beckster (Mystery’s wingman) is 170cm, RSD Tyler and RSD Max claim to be 170cm but those RSD guys are liars, they're definitely shorter in person. Todd V 170, JT Tran (The asian playboy) only 165, Tony D (sometime active on this sub) 170, Coach Kyle 170 EDIT: initially I wrote RSD Julien instead of RSD Maxx
/r/seduction04/03/26 07:52 PM
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I'm a short guy for example, How tall?
/r/seduction04/03/26 07:31 PM
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WTF man, you never joke around? Are you're always so grumpy and obsessed with details? Honestly, the moment you drop a joke on Reddit, someone finds it creepy. That whole vibe is just beyond me.
/r/seduction04/03/26 07:09 PM
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You know... your example is even easier because we have a method made from two steps I always talk about on this subreddit, though I seem to be the only one mentioning it. Step 1: You see the girl, she sees you (eye contact for one second) Step 2: You double back, make a U-turn toward her... and now you can pretty much say anything. It’s so much easier because that initial contact has already been made. Now, when you actually approach her, she’ll have the impression that maybe you recognize her …
/r/seduction04/03/26 02:37 PM
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Whatever you're smoking, you should probably cut back.
/r/seduction03/03/26 11:23 PM
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Most PUA advice online heavily focuses on the “what to say” Ever wondered why? Because a man who’s never spoken to a woman before wants to know exactly what to say to break the ice, what to follow up with after the opener, and how to keep the conversation going... these things don’t just happen out of thin air. When you approach someone, you need to know what you're doing; otherwise, you just say 'hi' and stand there like an idiot, leaving her to guess what you’re even after. belief that you can…
/r/seduction03/03/26 11:09 PM
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You need at least a basic filter because it’s a bad look to approach a woman who’s clearly avoiding any social contact. That’s just foolish. It’s not about hunting for IOI signals because yuo won’t even see those most of the time. What you’re actually looking for are lack of IOD - you notice that she doesn't turn her back on you, she doesn't ignore you, she doesn't pretend to be busy when you head her way.... these are the basics you can spot in a split second. If those negative signals aren't t…
/r/seduction03/03/26 06:37 PM
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It's interesting that you haven't found the method that works for you yet. In my case, at 47, I find it very easy to start a conversation with a woman if I use an indirect approach. Then, if I get positive reactions (like she's talkative, in the mood to chat, or shows presence of mind), I keep going and build from there. On the other hand, if I see negative reactions (she pretends she’s about to leave, avoids eye contact, or gives short answers), I don't even bother continuing. It couldn't be si…
/r/seduction03/03/26 05:32 PM
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If you’re James Bond, a famous artist, or a celebrity VIP, then a simple 'hey', a look, or even a wink might be enough to make things spicy. You might just need to be in the area and women will come to you... isn't that awesome? However, if you’re just a regular guy, your 'hi' or 'hey' can come across as creepy as hell... you can't approach like that hundreds of girls becuse you will quickly become the guy who hit on girls and you're cooked. For this reason, it’s not just about saying 'hi' or 'h…
/r/seduction03/03/26 05:14 PM
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You’re taking every statement or metaphor too literally. But even so, let’s look at the numbers. If we count all the monarchies that have ever existed and see how many times a queen actually mingled with a servant, you'll see that even if you find X cases, that number is so small compared to the total that it’s clearly an exception. For example, Princess Margaret and Antony Armstrong-Jones. I found that her marriage was the first time a king's daughter married a commoner in 450 years.!!!! If som…
/r/seduction03/03/26 10:07 AM
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Let me be clear "whoever puts in more effort to be a more desirable partner deserves more. whether that be man or woman. In an ideal world you're right, but life is not fair and for this reason it won't work as you say.
/r/seduction03/03/26 01:20 AM
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You said "you have more ability to choose than them because they haven't earned the right to be picky" that's the specific part I was referring to when I said it's debatable and applicable only in muslim countries. Look VIDEO how a woman make a choice in western society... they hold the power of rejection.
/r/seduction03/03/26 01:05 AM
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Well... that’s not entirely true. When you approach her, the curious people watching have no idea who you are. You could be a classmate, a colleague, a brother, or a cousin... so you aren't actually being judged. If they eavesdrop on your conversation, that's their problem. If you get rejected and they think you shouldn't have approached or that you're a creep, that’s just one group of people, for another group, you’ll be a hero. You have no control over this. How someone else reacts is not up t…
/r/seduction03/03/26 12:48 AM
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you have more ability to choose than them because they haven't earned the right to be picky. Debatable. Maybe in Muslim countries otherwise, they are picky as hell. However, most of them are polite, nice, and friendly, they have no idea how you will react, they always want to avoid a conflict, that's why their rejections often take the form of 'awwww, I have a boyfriend' or... 'sooorry, but I have a boyfriend.' Or she might simply avoid eye contact, pretending she’s in a huge hurry.
/r/seduction03/03/26 12:40 AM
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The sentence you said is from Mystery's book. If a woman approaches a man and gets rejected, the blow to her ego is massive. She fears that the man/men will see her as "easy" or "desperate" and for a woman, reputation is super-important. For example: social conditioning labels a woman in a hotel with 2-3 men as "low value" or shameful, but a man in the same spot with 2-3 women is seen as a "high-value" winner this is a double standard. You feel it because you have a big ego and this is a killer,…
/r/seduction03/03/26 12:24 AM
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Mystery explains these concepts so well that everything just makes sense and fits together, I can't explain in just a few lines because it's linked to other theories: the cat string theory, needy attitude, frames, you are the prize, DHV... if you put her on a pedestal, all these theories are canceled out, they lose their value. Bottom line: if you pedestalize her, she becomes the Queen and you’re just the servant. Since when do Queens date their servants? That’s exactly what we want to avoid, so…
/r/seduction02/03/26 10:50 PM
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There is this idea that you shouldn't put a woman on a pedestal. The question is: how do you actually do that in reality? Mystery came along and, to help with an answer, he said: well, you won't put her on a pedestal if you talk to her and behave with her exactly as if she were your little sister. This includes jokes, childish games (like tapping her on the shoulder and ducking away, or bumping into her while you're walking together), not being afraid to contradict her, you become authoritative …
/r/seduction02/03/26 09:19 PM
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That "nonsense" is in fact a practical method that helps you avoid putting her on a pedestal. Talk to her like you talk to your bratty little sister, that way, she will never be placed on a pedestal.
/r/seduction02/03/26 06:12 PM
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I see it as a way to use the 'neg' in a funny, playful way. If you think about the words you say to her as if she were your little sister, the remark becomes naturally exaggerated and funny. - About a month ago, I was talking to this girl and she seemed a bit cold, so I made a joke: "Put this on, you're shivering like a baby goose and tomorrow you'll be complaining that I'm the reason you caught a cold and have a stuffy nose". I could have said: "Do you want my jacket? Please, take it, I don't w…
/r/seduction02/03/26 05:28 PM
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performative aspect Why is it performative? Think about it like buying a car. If you want a better deal, do you just pay whatever the seller asks or will you say: 'Wow, what a gorgeous car! I love the wheels, it’s in perfect condition, and it’s exactly the color I wanted!'? Of course not, that will only increase the price. You pretend you’re not that interested. You act like you don't really like the car, you point out that the color isn't quite right, you find some scratches, the tires are worn…
/r/seduction02/03/26 09:06 AM
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Well, every conversation has a beginning, a middle, and an end, the structure is always the same, it doesn't matter how you call those phases they are still the same: start - middle - end There are all sorts of concepts that ChatGPT won't tell you about because they aren't considered 'moral,' and the AI bot won't comment on those things. But if you pick up Mystery's book and start reading, you'll see exactly what needs to be done at every stage. It’s not just small talk. in fact, it's always abo…
/r/seduction01/03/26 08:40 PM
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Nothing ever happens unless she wants it. That’s exactly why things like light touch, small steps of comfort, and gradual signals exist, you always try small things first, and at the first sign of discomfort you stop immediately. If some guys just want to have a coffee and go home alone, good for them. They don’t need to use kino, they don’t need to test the waters, they don’t need to pay attention to anything beyond the coffee itself. If someone wants to wake up next to her, you can’t play by t…
/r/seduction01/03/26 10:28 AM
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So you didn’t actually give me a list of what parts of PUA are manipulative, you just treated the whole thing as one big block. In other words, you know just enough to feel like you’re right, but not enough to see where you might be wrong. Let me try to explain it again, maybe this time it will make sense. Let’s start from the beginning. Any PUA material tells you to pay attention to how you present yourself so you make a good first impression: stand up straight, be clean, smell good, be social,…
/r/seduction01/03/26 10:12 AM
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Yes. I’ve noticed that Asian people (especially Indians) find it difficult to approach women from Western countries. This doesn't mean there aren't exceptions, there are, but ethnicity plays a huge role. You’re up against certain stereotypes that you have to actively disprove, which definitely adds an extra layer of difficulty.
/r/seduction28/02/26 06:47 PM
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You're dodging the question by describing an ideal world. Apparently, based on your checklist, I’ve failed.. well.. it is what it is. Since you are a man of integrity and flawless morality, could you finally give me a list of things you consider manipulative in PUA ? So far, I haven't received a single example. Instead, we’re stuck talking about morality, which is a completely different subject.
/r/seduction28/02/26 06:42 PM
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when you advocate a series of steps as a form of strategy to get her to go to the hotel later, that's a problem. The question is why would I expect everyone to play fair and follow the rules? Life just isn't like that, there are always people who cheat. Think about any game for a second. We have two teams: one will follow the rules and the other one is determined to win at any cost and is even willing to cheat to reach their goal. Without knowing any other details, who do you think has the highe…
/r/seduction28/02/26 05:48 PM
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looks, money, age, status matters? - Looks - this is about "first impression" If you’re dressed like a bum, she’ll dodge you exactly the way you dodge a beggar on the street. You don't wait for a beggar to ask for money, you see him, you instinctively know what he wants, and you avoid him. She does the exact same thing to you. On the other hand, if you’re sharp, groomed, and smell good, you win the first 10 seconds. Those 10 seconds buy you one minute to show your 'game.' If you’re friendly, soc…
/r/seduction28/02/26 05:15 PM
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I'm curious, what exactly do you consider manipulative, in your opinion? BTW, talking to a lady is a lot like riding a horse... it’s an ugly comparison, but it's what came to mind. If you want to take a lady to a hotel, you can't just pick her up and go. Just like riding a horse, there’s a whole process involved... you have to earn her trust first.
/r/seduction28/02/26 04:27 PM
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IRL everyone thinks they know what they’re doing, and then they end up exactly like in this VIDEO Confidence alone won’t save you if you’re missing the basics.
/r/seduction28/02/26 12:45 PM
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PUA becomes manipulative when people mask their real intentions. Whenever I read this kind of comment, I immediately see a lack of theory and understanding. It is similar wanting to ride a horse, you don’t just jump on it right away, it doesn’t know you, and there’s a high chance it will throw you off. Instead, you feed it, you touch it, you pet it, you put your hands on it for a longer time. The horse gets used to you, and accepts you. Are these actions manipulative? If someone uses indirect op…
/r/seduction28/02/26 09:43 AM
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There was this stand-up comedian with a pretty prominent nose. Knowing everyone would be staring and probably judging, what did he do? He walked on stage, looked left and right so they’d get a clear view, and then said: "Do you guys also think your noses look big in photos?'' Once he said that, his nose didn't matter anymore. It was pure self-irony. That’s exactly what these women are doing, it’s not a critique, they’re just acknowledging the obvious, they’re calling out the elephant in the room…
/r/seduction27/02/26 07:12 PM
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If "oversize" means overweight, then yes even multiple times, but nothing at extreme. Two weeks ago PHOTO and the same person PHOTO actually about 7/10 of the times they all were with 15-20kg extra. What to say about their weights if they ask? They all mentioned their desire of losing some weight, and what did I do? I turned it into a joke. I told them I could help them out by taking a bite... and starting a little fight, always work.
/r/seduction27/02/26 05:59 PM
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YouTube is full of psychological tricks to get her to reply, but in reality, nothing is guaranteed. It starts with sending a simple emoji just to be different, and goes all the way to criticizing her pose in a photo, but nothing is 100% certain. Hower you do, sooner or later, you’ll have to talk to her face-to-face. You can't escape the basics: push-pull, qualify/disqualify, frames, eliciting values, jokes, stories, kino, gambits/routines.... an so on.... so you still need to know the basics.
/r/seduction27/02/26 04:20 PM
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what do you advise me to do, It's better not to listen to anyone and just do exactly what you want. She likes you for who you are right now. No need for games. My 2 cents. what would you do when someone is already into you It depends on my goal. If it’s just a hookup and not an LTR, I’m going to escalate things a lot quicker. It’s a completely different scenario. For an LTR, I’m probably not the best person for advice, since my longest relationship lasted less than two years.
/r/seduction27/02/26 04:07 PM
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Something many people overlook is that MM is meant for approaching 9–10HB who constantly get attention and compliments + also MM assumes you have time to talk (you are in night game: bar/restaurant/lounge/event) , in daygame things move faster, everything is more compressed but the principles are always the same, every interaction has a start -middle - end and MM outlines what to do in each phase.
/r/seduction27/02/26 09:39 AM
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ASSUME that every girl will like me. Yes, it’s a nice start to get your adrenaline going but it’s tough when you realize you're wrong. If you're in the right mood, it won't really bother you. laugh at your own joke Yes and no. You shouldn't take these things too seriously, but you can't afford to be delusional either. What if you say something and you're the only one who finds it funny? You need to adapt; you need to make adjustments.
/r/seduction26/02/26 11:09 PM
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Nice, but one tip: don’t ask her if she has a boyfriend, not directly, not indirectly. You don’t need to care about that. If she notices any kind of escalation, she will be the one to mention her boyfriend. And think about it: what if you catch her in a good mood and she’s open to an instant date, maybe even more? If you ask about her boyfriend, it’s game over.
/r/seduction25/02/26 08:48 PM
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your example 2 is also flat and boring. Maybe you find it boring, but someone else might not. There’s really no need to be perfect, and there’s no need to be overly playful either. Depending on the situation, there’s nothing wrong with asking questions to a girl you barely know, you can even turn it into a funny moment. The important thing is to keep the conversation going. Say whatever comes to mind, but say something. Don’t bother with emotional stuff when you talk, it’s only meant to make her…
/r/seduction25/02/26 08:41 PM
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I don’t think anyone really feels "valuable enough". It’s like money, no matter how much you’ve got, it never feels like enough. Nobody ever says, "okay I’m good, I don’t need more."
/r/seduction25/02/26 06:11 PM
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You’re going to extremes again, and that’s not how things work. I’m not like that, I’m a combination of what you said. It’s borderline impossible to be a certain way and expect to find a girl who will like you EXACTLY as you are, without making any change at all. It’s like a taxi driver who only drives to one destination and expects people to magically need that exact route… Imagine two teams playing a game. One team is determined to win at all costs, even by cheating. Without any other context,…
/r/seduction25/02/26 05:48 PM
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In other words, you’re taking the whole "cat string theory" to an extreme. You didn’t understand anything I wrote, you’re stuck in the silly ideas pushed everywhere on YouTube/ TikTok by gurus and marketers. Well… good luck.
/r/seduction25/02/26 04:49 PM
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As a general theory and as something to say to look cool on Reddit, it’s like you say: "do what you desire" but in real life, that theory is just fluff talk you can’t actually be 100% selfish, it’s impossible. You ever wonder why girls chase the guys who just don’t give a damn? This is a sensitive topic with many variables: her finances, her family, her education, her temperament, her character, her personality.... You can’t conclude that girls like ‘bad boys’ or guys who ‘don’t give a damn.’ Th…
/r/seduction25/02/26 03:37 PM
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She’s definitely already figured that out.
/r/seduction25/02/26 10:16 AM
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You said "In the beginning i only texted when I wanted to meetup after she couldn't make it last weekend we texted a bit more than usual " and then "the vibe kind of changed. ..... she just takes longer to respond in general" So you only contacted her when you needed something… you wanted to look strong, to look cool. Well, congratulations , you did and now you get to find someone else. If you keep repeating these games, things are going to get pretty difficult for you in the future. When do you…
/r/seduction25/02/26 09:46 AM
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Think about the girl doing those things to you, would you like it? I guess the first thought in your mind would be: "well… she’s not interested in me". I don’t think you would start chasing her if you saw that she was pulling away. Now, depending on your personality, maybe you’d be curious to know what happened (although I guess your ego wouldn’t even let you do that, you’d think it looks needy, and that’s exactly how you take yourself out of the game). Maybe you’d just leave things as they are …
/r/seduction25/02/26 12:30 AM
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Relax mate... - Don't really think about being available, - dont show too much attention for now - mirror her behaviour What kind of stuff are you smoking?
/r/seduction24/02/26 11:31 PM
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When it’s a good idea to use push‑pull?
/r/seduction24/02/26 02:15 PM
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The Game es solo una historia que muestra la vida de los PUA, pero si buscas métodos o técnicas, necesitas el libro de Mystery "How to Get Beautiful Women into Bed". Vas a encontrar mucha crítica hacia ese libro, pero si lo analizas y lo entiendes, verás que todo tiene sentido y es lógico. Lo más importante del libro es comprender el método 3M, porque ahí se trata del cold approach. Si escribes en inglés, recibirás más respuestasm quizá tonterías, pero al menos recibirás una respuesta.
/r/seduction24/02/26 11:34 AM
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is it sometimes a test to see how I react? That’s too much, you don’t test someone with a sentence like that. Also, as a tip from a guy from reddit: you should always avoid asking whether she has a boyfriend. It is possible that she does have one (nothing serious, but he exists), and she meets you, you catch her in a good moment, and she’s willing to go with you to a hotel or your place. If you ask about the boyfriend, it’s over, nothing will happen anymore. Do you see how a single question can …
/r/seduction24/02/26 11:27 AM
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making her attracted, with pushpull lines for example? You don’t know what push‑pull is or when to use it. what about girls who say 'i'm not interested', or girl who don't talk back, give very bad body language etc. That means game over. Do something else and you’re right on the edge of harassment. the advantage of cold approach over tinder for example, In short: on Tinder and other dating apps, women choose you, in cold approach, you choose them. I’ve had dates from cold approach with girls who…
/r/seduction24/02/26 11:16 AM
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That timeline is exaggerated, there’s no real need to stretch it out that much. It’s mostly a marketing strategy to make the process look more complicated than it really is. I’m sure they’ll say that you need time to “integrate these new teachings into your habits” and that this pause is necessary until you get used to them. Even though it sounds like a serious explanation, it’s still exaggerated.
/r/seduction23/02/26 02:57 PM
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There always need to be a few rules between you and your wingman, you can’t just ignore them and hope for the best. They’re simple rules meant to avoid drama later. Don’t overteach him, just set the basics: "If I see a girl first, don’t try to steal her. Don’t say anything bad about me, nothing that lowers my value. And if I turn my body 90 degrees, come closer, that’s a sign I need backup" - this is enough.
/r/seduction23/02/26 12:39 PM
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It’s a deal: he helps you now, and later you help him. It’s a favor for a favor. It’s about following simple rules: whoever sees the girl first she’s his (so the other one shouldn’t try to steal her). And besides that, a wingman always says good things about you and helps you out if he sees you messing up, especially in conversation when those awkward moments of silence appear. There are also different signals between you two (like when you want him to come over or when you want him to leave so …
/r/seduction23/02/26 12:02 PM
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Any person, man or woman, is attracted to someone who is funny, smart, playful, good‑looking, optimistic, sociable... but guess what? These traits people usually associate with a ‘bad boy’ those attractive traits are taken from movies (as I wrote in my first post). In real life, a ‘bad boy’ comes with a lot of negative sides that make him difficult to be around, and nobody talks about those because they ruin the image of the ‘bad boy’. For example, if a woman tells such a guy that she has a cere…
/r/seduction23/02/26 09:46 AM
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Two lessons a month??? It must be a joke! Any bootcamp lasts three days, just enough to build the courage to approach a woman and learn some basic fundamentals… but two lessons a month? Why not one lesson a week for a whole year, or why not lifelong lessons? What the hell? I wouldn’t even be surprised if someone actually did that.
/r/seduction23/02/26 12:35 AM
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Obviously you can’t talk gibberish So in the end, what you say does matter. What you say can either make the conversation flow easily or make things more complicated. RSD Tyler, in one of his videos, walked up to a woman and told her: "onion, tomatoes, pepper, cucumber…" She looked at him confused, and then he added: "those are the veggies I use to make a salad, do you like salad too?" How many people can actually use a list of vegetables as an opener? The ones who can pull that off clearly have…
/r/seduction22/02/26 06:49 PM
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During your approaches what are you all typically saying, what info are you gathering? – Basic questions: who are you here with, where are you from, what do you do for work, how’s it going… and her name (a bit later, if there’s a vibe otherwise it doesn’t matter). - You always have the advantage of reacting to her expressions, things like: ‘you look suspicious,’ ‘don’t laugh, it’s contagious,’ or even commenting on her outfit: ‘you’re wearing all black, are you a chimney sweeper?’ And if she’s i…
/r/seduction22/02/26 06:21 PM
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what you say it’s not as important, Quick question: If what you say doesn’t matter, then how are you supposed to create a good vibe? It won’t just magically appear and you can’t just use gestures like someone who can’t speak… so what else is left besides your words?
/r/seduction22/02/26 05:57 PM
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You’re just trolling, mate. Best of luck.
/r/seduction22/02/26 04:01 PM
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Many guys say they’ve seen an average‑looking or even unattractive man with a gorgeous woman. Yes, it happens, but those are exceptions to the rule. It’s like winning the lottery. And if you look deeper, you’ll always find a reason why that woman chose to be with that guy, or even with someone who is an asshole and why she can't leave. There’s always context behind it. In most cases this won’t happen. It’s better to rely on things that work 99% of the time than to gamble on the 1% chance that ev…
/r/seduction22/02/26 03:43 PM
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Men of questionable character being appealing to women is a constant of history. Every rule has an exception, but an exception means a very small number of cases you’ll probably never encounter. It’s like the lottery: some people win the jackpot, but does that mean it’s worth playing just because others got lucky? Those men compensate for their lack of looks/questionable character with other things, most of the time it’s wealth, (money makes wonders - VIDEO
/r/seduction22/02/26 02:48 PM
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You know what’s ironic about the phrase ‘express intent cleanly’? It almost never actually happens. Nobody goes up to a woman and says: ‘Let’s go to my place and have sex.’ In real life, it’s always full of detours, the classic ‘let’s go to my place and watch a movie’ and all those indirect hints. You’re not really saying what you want... that's impossible in most of the cases. Thats why a lot of guys end up in situations where they’re chilling with a girl thinking they’re gonna have sex You’re …
/r/seduction22/02/26 10:07 AM
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Use Photoshop to try different haircuts, beard shapes, and outfits. See how you would look with each style. You’ll eventually find a version of yourself that you really like, and you can aim to look like that in real life.
/r/seduction22/02/26 09:16 AM
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It’s interesting how everyone thinks he’s a special case with a special problem that keeps him from talking to a girl. In your case, your excuse is your ethnicity, as if saying that if you weren’t Indian, everything would be fine, but since you are, you have no chance. I suggest you look up Deepak Wayne on YouTube he’s an Indian guy well over 40, and guess what? He dates women in their 20s in Germany. The process of talking to a lady is easy. If things go well, great. If not, just walk away. The…
/r/seduction21/02/26 09:51 PM
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express intent cleanly Don’t do that, unless she is really clueless about what’s going on and doesn’t notice it at all… but in 99% of cases this won’t happen. They figure things out pretty quickly, so there’s no need to explicitly tell her your intent. It’s a childish method, it’s basically the same thing we used to do in kindergarten: “I’m XYZ, do you want to be my friend?
/r/seduction21/02/26 05:52 PM
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The author of the post is this YOUTUBE guy. Maybe let GPT fix the grammar and english, because otherwise it makes zero sense.
/r/seduction21/02/26 02:15 PM
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When someone says he’s “ugly,” you need more details. Is he actually ugly because of a real deformation or a mark he was left with? Or are there just certain features he wishes were different (a smaller nose, eyes closer or farther apart, more prominent cheekbones)? Or is it simply that he thinks he’s ugly because he doesn’t like what he sees in the mirror? There are handsome guys that people still call “ugly” simply because that’s how those people are, that’s just their personality. These are d…
/r/seduction21/02/26 02:06 PM
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style of flirting / own style This is unique, but there’s always a foundation you start from. It’s like hearing a joke from someone and wanting to tell it to someone else. You’ll tell it in your own way, with your own gestures and expressions, but the punchline stays the same as when you first heard it. You borrow the joke, not the exact delivery, that part is unique and impossible to copy. But you still need to know the joke, otherwise there’s no way to tell it, you start from a foundation (whi…
/r/seduction21/02/26 01:21 PM
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A lot of people love adrenaline, especially young people, and ‘breaking the rules’ is exactly adrenaline. That’s why it appeals so much to the youth: doing things your own way, not thinking about consequences, go to the gym, be a bad boy… it’s all adrenaline. The problem is that we’re dealing with extremes, and extremes are never good. This one isn’t good, but neither is the opposite extreme. What matters is balance, equilibrium, Yin and Yang, a little from each side.... But now it’s boring, the…
/r/seduction21/02/26 11:12 AM
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The idea is that your approach doesn’t need to be perfect. You don’t have to be James Bond, wink at her, and have her follow you the next second. You don’t need to say something incredibly funny and make her unable to stop laughing. There’s no need to impress her. You don’t need to act like you know everything. You don’t need to be the most interesting guy in the room. You don’t need to create a movie moment.... Now that you know it doesn’t have to be perfect… is it still that hard?
/r/seduction21/02/26 12:17 AM
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Of course looks matter, they’re the first impression, but luckily they’re not the only thing that matters. If you’re not fortunate in that area, it’s not the end of the world. There are other things you can do to compensate for your weaknesses. Here’s a discussion between Phill Heitliger and James Tusk where they talk exactly about whether looks matter VIDEO BTW, about 80% I look like Phill Heitlinger . I know I’m not handsome, and for this reason I avoid doing certain things like direct openers…
/r/seduction20/02/26 10:52 PM
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Most of the time you don’t even notice it, because a shy girl is usually a master at hiding her emotions. It happened to me plenty of times, I’d be somewhere with my friends and I’d see girls looking at them. I told them, but they never noticed it… that’s why I say girls do this very discreetly.
/r/seduction20/02/26 08:49 PM
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Like everything in life, you can learn through experience, you can learn by actually doing it, but why choose the hard route when someone else has already figured out how these things work, and all you have to do is read about it so you don’t have to start from zero or reinvent the wheel? There’s no such thing as reading theory and then discovering it doesn’t help, that’s impossible. Theory means openers, transitions, what to say after the opener, gambits/routines, scripts, jokes… these things s…
/r/seduction20/02/26 06:43 PM
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To repeat something, you first need to know what to repeat. Here we’re talking about learning a new skill, how to become a pleasant person, how to be charismatic. How can you repeat something if you literally have no idea what to do? Oh… you assume you’ll learn from mistakes? Yes, at some point in the future you will learn from mistakes that’s one way of learning. But why prefer that approach when you could just read 2–3 pages of theories, understand the basics, and then work on improving what y…
/r/seduction20/02/26 04:36 PM
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Where does the idea that being a ‘bad boy’ is attractive even come from? From movies. There you see ‘bad boys’ (gangsters) dressed in black, funny, smart, handsome, confident, surrounded by women and then you have the cops who are always fat, eating donuts, bored, everyone hate them… IRL neither extreme is good… both of them push people away in different ways. A ‘bad boy’ is fine up to a point, but once you see indifference, lack of empathy, ignoring other people’s ideas, doing only what he want…
/r/seduction20/02/26 04:27 PM
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Did you at least notice that the OP is actually a guy who goes outside and approaches girls? Here’s his YouTube profile. I’m definitely sure that the guys mocking him have no idea what they’re talking about in this post, but of course, people can write whatever they want, it’s full freedom.
/r/seduction20/02/26 04:05 PM
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So you learn boxing directly in the ring, you learn to swim by jumping straight into the water, you learn to read/write without ever learning the alphabet, you know a joke without ever hearing it… Chuck Norris, is that you?
/r/seduction20/02/26 03:38 PM
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‘Neg’ is the most controversial term because it’s misunderstood. Trolls and competitors have distorted what a NEG actually is according to Mystery, and they’ve placed it next to the dictionary meaning of ‘negativity.’ That’s why I say: look at what a NEG really is and what it actually does. Don’t rely on explanations from me or anyone else, go straight to the source. Flipping a ‘red’ is debatable. It’s one thing when she says ‘NO’ and you literally have no way to talk to her, she won’t look at y…
/r/seduction19/02/26 02:16 PM
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If you like psychology, read "A Continuum of Impression Formation" by Susan Fiske & Steven Neuberg (1990). It’s an interesting article explaining how people assign quick stereotype labels (in your case: ‘ugly’ or ‘hot’), but the key point is that it doesn’t stop there (as most people say), the evaluation continues... this is our luck, otherwise you’d see someone and think ‘he’s ugly, I’m not talking to him" end of story. Fortunately, it doesn’t work like that. Because of continuous evaluation, a…
/r/seduction19/02/26 01:46 PM
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So how do you let that value show naturally? You're right, nobody knows who you are, but depending on your attitude, your clothes, and the way you carry yourself, women will use intuition and feeling to decide whether you're someone interesting or not. It's superficial, but it works, when you dress well, you say a lot without saying a word. For example, that was my outfit for February 14.- LINK Besides the clothes, you tell stories that include your experiences (real or fake). Now the full pictu…
/r/seduction19/02/26 12:50 PM
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a fictional “three-second rule It’s the simplest method that exists for anxiety, there’s nothing magical about it. About 3-4 years ago I filmed with a spycam what happens when you hesitate: I saw two girls, waited too long to approach, walked after them, one of her saw me 3-4 times... I scared people on the street VIDEO. Hesitation hurts both me and the other person who has no idea what I’m doing. Hesitation is a killer, and the 3 second rule helps you avoid situations like this, this has been k…
/r/seduction19/02/26 10:30 AM
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claimed their method was negs. There are so many misunderstandings about negs. You need to actually learn what a neg is and understand the concept. A good resource is HERE learn from the guy who originally introduced it.
/r/seduction19/02/26 09:22 AM
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This is the most superficial advice I’ve seen being promoted in the past few years but what do you do if a girl is shy, introverted, quiet, and because of that she doesn’t show any signs that she likes you? People aren’t binary in their thinking it’s not 1 or 0, black or white, likes you or doesn’t like you. On the contrary, there are a lot of states in between.
/r/seduction19/02/26 09:12 AM
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Going to the gym is an EXTRA thing, it doesn’t matter as long as someone is healthy, has good posture, a normal BMI, and makes a good first impression (clothes, smelling good, being clean, things like that). There are other ways, and much faster ones, to build the confidence to approach a girl and to become charismatic. You know, ‘monkey see, monkey do’: it’s enough to watch someone approach a girl in real life 1–2–5 times, and you’ll naturally gain the courage to do the same, that’s how confide…
/r/seduction17/02/26 10:16 AM
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Training your muscles doesn’t make you more charismatic. Any sport you do is for your health, but we’re not talking about health on this sub. However, this is just my personal point of view, because some guys think that the more muscle you have, the better you are with women, which is complete nonsense.
/r/seduction16/02/26 07:32 PM
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- 100% you don't need - Professional photography for dating profiles ($400), Public speaking course ($600) a waste of time from my point of view, Cooking classes ($500) learn 2-3 foot recipes (is all you need) to impress someone. - Not important - 12-month fitness program: gym + nutrition coaching ($2500) a lot of guys don't do this, Professional styling consultation ($300-500?): there are free online resources you can find inspiration from - Important - Quality wardrobe basics from reliable bra…
/r/seduction16/02/26 11:31 AM
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There are two different moments: right after the opener, and after the vibe is already there. You are talking about the best case scenario when the vibe and the energy keep things going. But in the beginning, for the first 5-10 minutes, you don’t have that luxury (you can’t talk about emotions in the first few minutes, it would feel really creepy, because you’re still a complete stranger to her) Ater the opener, you need to know what you’re doing. you need to have something to say, a silence is …
/r/seduction15/02/26 08:39 PM
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After talking about the main things, the conversation kind of dies. See the irony? You already have several topics to talk about, so why not bring them back into the conversation? However there are all kinds of gambits/routines that help you create new topics, from pre‑learned stories and jokes to using a prop that naturally opens a new direction. For example, I have 2–3 fake piercings I bought from TEMU, and sometimes I use them to create a context to talk about tattoos, piercings, cosmetics...…
/r/seduction15/02/26 08:20 PM
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I have a certain workplace, a certain status, and I can’t risk being known as ‘that creepy guy.’ For me, the idea of approaching someone anywhere just because I like her doesn’t work at all. That’s pure madness. IMO your method is seriously flawed if you’ve reached 1500 approaches, that’s madness. It’s a clear sign you don’t know what you’re doing. But hey, if it works for you, keep going. Good luck.
/r/seduction14/02/26 11:10 PM
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Volume does play a role, and yes, in short, you do need some volume to find a single girl, since most of them will tell you they have a boyfriend. That’s where the volume comes in. You also need volume because not every single girl is actually interested in a relationship. However when I say you don’t need volume, I mean you don’t need a lot of it. With basic social skills, you can avoid certain girls where the probability of rejection is extremely high. Using just a bit of social awareness redu…
/r/seduction14/02/26 10:50 PM
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You’re making a conceptual mistake if you think calibration means looking for IOI signals. In reality, what you should pay attention to is the absence of IOD signals. The absence of IOD signals simply means she’s neutral, no IOI required, but there shouldn’t be any IOD either. That’s all. That’s what calibration actually is (I’m curious how many guys have actually figured this out.) – When you don’t see any IOD signals = it’s worth trying. – When you do see IOD signals = there’s no point in tryi…
/r/seduction14/02/26 10:35 PM
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I asked that question to show you it's not really a numbers game. It's actually about attention, the ability to read another person's IOD signals better and faster (experience). That's all. It only becomes a numbers game if you do things blindly, without being able to read basic social cues. ‘I don’t know why guys don’t get this, it’s a numbers game at the end of the day’? Well… as you’ve seen, it’s partly true and partly not. It depends on the angle from which you look at the problem. It’s like…
/r/seduction14/02/26 07:51 PM
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And how come that as you gain more experience, you get better results and no longer need to do 100–200 approaches?
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:17 PM
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all the women are attracted to him. How do you know this? Just because they laugh? They talk to him whenever they get the chance and they're always laughing. They are his coworkers. They have to stay there for eight hours, and they have to tolerate him no matter what he does, as long as he does his job. The women feel comfortable and positive around him. Because they are not romantically interested in him..
/r/seduction14/02/26 08:04 AM
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A little breeze is good, but if the energy is too strong, it turns into a hurricane. A light tap on the shoulder is friendly and gets attention, but if you put too much force into it, it becomes a punch. A bit of energy makes someone feel alive, too much makes them nervous, agitated, the kind of person you don’t even want to stand next to. Approaching a quiet woman while your energy is too high makes you look like a dancing monkey... and it goes on and on. These things aren’t exceptions, they’re…
/r/seduction14/02/26 07:48 AM
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The guys who tell you not to record the interaction are the moralists, those who will judge you if you dare to learn something related to seduction (if you learn a routine or an opener, you are authomatically a creep), don't listen them. If you can do it, great. Filming yourself is a method that builds confidence, pushes you to approach, and gives you motivation. The sooner you do, the better. Any spycam is good for POV format videos. Not those weird glasses, use cameras disguised as a button, a…
/r/seduction14/02/26 12:44 AM
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Why would you wait? To show you're not needy and that you have abundance? Over text, silence doesn’t communicate confidence. You think you're signaling that you're smooth, but silence can mean a hundred different things, and none of them work in your favor.
/r/seduction12/02/26 09:58 AM
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I dont know how to flirt, what to say that changes the dynamic of the conversation. You need to spice up the conversation and watch how they react. Begin with double‑meaning sentences - VIDEO - this is the easiest way to escalate. Then move on to light kino touches (progressively get closer to her) and at the same time "compliance tests" - to check your progress. The point is that you need to know when to stop escalating, because too much is just as harmful as doing nothing.
/r/seduction11/02/26 11:29 PM
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A woman doesn’t automatically know how much you make, Yes, true, but it's not hard for her to Google your name and see what comes up. She can check your Instagram profile, see what you post, and get a pretty good idea of your level. She sees what clothes you wear, what phone you have, what watch (if any), what place (bar/restaurant) you chose, and how you present yourself, she evaluates all of that. She doesn’t know exactly, but she gets close enough to figure out where you stand. how much incom…
/r/seduction11/02/26 09:32 PM
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Well, nothing is free in this world. Would you really do something for someone for free? Maybe 1-2 times then reality would kick in and you'd suddenly lose all that generosity" Even Bill Gates, when he was the richest man in the world, still charged money for Windows.
/r/seduction11/02/26 09:09 PM
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You’re talking about the ‘cat string theory’, the idea that a woman wants what she can’t have. So people say that if you act mysterious, she’ll become curious about who you are and why you behave that way. Reality is more complicated, it’s not that simple. It’s a concept you should be aware of, and then it’s up to you how you use it, and even whether you decide to use it at all. Yes there should be a balance as with all things, so you should offer some information when asked. See, now you’re tal…
/r/seduction11/02/26 03:44 PM
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When she's into you, there's nothing to worry about. The problem is that most of the time you have no idea whether she’s into you or not. Maybe she likes you but she's shy or low‑energy, so she won’t talk much, you give her a compliment, you will get a "thanks", you’re the one who has to keep the conversation going, in the beginning for a few minutes you will talk about 80% of the time. The "mysterious guy" is a myth. You can’t avoid properly answering basic questions like what you do for a livi…
/r/seduction11/02/26 02:52 PM
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‘active listening’. Listening to what? In the beginning there's nothing to listen to. You're the one who needs to do about 80% of the talking. Only after she's hooked and actually interested in you does the ratio slowly shift, maybe to 40% you and 60% her, or even 20% you and 80% her (though that part depends on luck). Being mysterious by staying silent? That's debatable. Most of the time you're not mysterious at all, you just come across as a creep who starts a conversation and can't keep it go…
/r/seduction11/02/26 12:01 PM
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From what I've seen so far, they don't really care. A nice body mostly attracts the attention of other guys, not necessarily girls. Among some girls there's this joke that 'big muscles = small dick', meaning they think men compensate for what can't be seen with what can be seen.
/r/seduction11/02/26 11:54 AM
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What behaviours do I need to practise to start attracting women? So you want to be a flower that attracts the bees? Do you get what I mean? You don’t need to attract them, the idea is that you shouldn’t push them away, because you as a man you’re the one who approaches them, and they should find traits in you that aren’t off‑putting.
/r/seduction10/02/26 04:20 PM
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Valentines Day is so boring, they want flowers, gift, restaurant, special attention.... in return? Nothing! When you go home they are tired... they want to sleep. So... don't bother.
/r/seduction10/02/26 12:48 PM
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You can’t just keep being ‘authentic’ and hope someone will like you exactly as you are. You have to adapt along the way, dance to the music that’s playing.... as Bruce Lee said: "be like water". If you’re a chef and you love making beef soup, but people don’t order beef soup, you’ll go bankrupt if you keep cooking only that... you need to make changes. When it comes to confidence, you only need enough to say ‘hi’. You don’t need crazy confidence, there’s no point. Too much of it actually looks …
/r/seduction10/02/26 10:38 AM
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What are you talking about, mate? I’m 47, only 5'7, there’s no problem as long as my energy and attitude are good. If a girl tries to be mean about my age, I just tell her "I’m Santa in disguise… checking if you deserve a present or .... [show her middlefinger while saying] ... nothing " - all I need is a good reaction to either keep going or move on… sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t… but when I get a laugh… oh boy
/r/seduction10/02/26 10:06 AM
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Why would you even want a woman like that? Imagine you have a cup of drink. If 1-2 guys put their finger in it, maybe you’d still drink it, it’s not a huge deal. But if 10 - 15 guys did the same, you probably wouldn’t want it anymore.
/r/seduction09/02/26 02:32 PM
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Imagine you want to jump into cold water. Only a few people will jump without hesitation. No matter how much explanation you get, it’s still hard to do. But the moment you see with your own eyes someone else jump into the cold water, everything becomes easier. If you see more people jumping in, that ‘monkey see, monkey do’ instinct gets triggered, and suddenly you decide you can do it too. It’s exactly the same when approaching a girl. When you see someone do it 1, 2, 10, 20 times, you eventuall…
/r/seduction09/02/26 12:29 PM
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Learning from mistakes is very difficult and many times you simply can’t learn anything from an interaction, because some things just don’t depend on you. - You say an opener and get rejected in 10 seconds. What can you learn from that? Nothing. Is it a bad opener? Bad attitude or body language? You can make all kinds of assumptions, but you never really know for sure.... There’s nothing to learn from it. - You say an opener, try to transition, and she rejects you immediately… What do you learn?…
/r/seduction09/02/26 08:39 AM
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That fear of approaching simply shows that you’re experiencing some level of approach anxiety. You can’t control a symptom, it’s like telling a guy who has the flu not to cough.
/r/seduction08/02/26 07:26 PM
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When you talk to someone, the conversation usually lasts around 15 minutes. You need to take into consideration that you should be talking around 75% of the time, which translates to about 10 minutes of talking. This is a very pessimistic way of thinking, and honestly it can't be that bad. If you see she's not interested, you just move on, there's no need to stay if you're not welcome. The problem appears when she’s shy, she won’t give you much to talk about. However, what do you talk about in t…
/r/seduction08/02/26 05:00 PM
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From what I've seen, the opener itself is not the real problem, it's what comes after it. Even a canned opener, the most common one in the world, does its job. But what do you do next? That's where your "game" comes in, and it all depends on how you handle the situation you just created. This is why it's better to use an opener that naturally transitions into something else, so everything flows smoothly and nothing feels forced. You need to create context to make things easier for yourself, do s…
/r/seduction08/02/26 10:35 AM
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when I have some sign of interest from her. I just freeze. Start with small things and see how far you can go. Begin with double‑meaning sentences - VIDEO - this is the easiest way to escalate. Then move on to light kino touches and progressively get closer to her, things like that. “Hey I like you, wanna date?” No! You prepare the ground for this. Ask her if she likes coffee (milk, ice cream or pizza) and then use her answer to set up a date. Make it funny: ‘We need to grab a slice of pizza tog…
/r/seduction07/02/26 07:37 PM
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It depends on what your criteria are for someone not to be a loser. Is there anyone in this world who isn’t a loser? Make a list of non‑losers, let’s see what you come up with.
/r/seduction07/02/26 04:52 PM
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People who look for help in seduction are always those who struggle, you know, awkward, socially stunted guys, low status.... Just like only sick people go to a doctor because they need treatment, in the seduction world you mostly find people dealing with personal issues.... people who need help, not insults or criticism.
/r/seduction07/02/26 04:22 PM
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Why do you assume that a guy who wants to know what to say when talking to a girl is insecure, doesn’t know how to hold a conversation, doesn’t have his own life, doesn’t go to the gym, doesn’t have a job, basically a ‘nice guy,’ a loser, a robot? And then suddenly jump to the opposite extreme, acting as if someone who doesn’t read even a basic idea is automatically smart, confident, bold, knows exactly what to say… basically a ‘bad boy,’ a chad ? not a word for word script. Mystery is not a wor…
/r/seduction07/02/26 11:24 AM
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Mystery method follows a very structure-based paradigm, It took me a long time to understand the book because there’s so much hate around it, and everyone throws out criticism that isn’t actually sustainable. Yes, it contains a structure, but take any method you want and it will also have a structure. It will always be opener–middle–close. - Now take the opener: Mystery gives you examples of what to say, and there are plenty of options. Take another guru and look at what he says, even after all …
/r/seduction07/02/26 10:28 AM
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One thing a lot of people overlook is that the book is talking about HB 9–10 women who aren’t impressed by compliments, or by the usual advice you see everywhere like ‘just be confident and bold.’ It’s like playing football in a lower league, but the moment you move up to a higher league, everything changes. You’re still playing football, but suddenly you’re outmatched. So… yes, I use Mystery Method, but not literally. In fact, I don’t use many of the concepts written there and also I use my own…
/r/seduction07/02/26 10:12 AM
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Being funny is a must. Are you trying to escalate but she keeps pulling back? No problem. There’s no rule that says that just because you’re on a date, she has to stay with you for the rest of your life, or that she has to go home with you. Still, being funny is essential but in a balanced way. Otherwise you turn into a clown, just like being too serious turns you into a grump.
/r/seduction06/02/26 09:47 AM
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When you meet with your friends, everyone shares different interesting or funny stories. Dating works the same way, you tell different stories. If you don’t have real‑life stories, you need to learn a few and use them later, there’s no other way. Besides stories, there are all kinds of jokes, especially double‑meaning lines to spice up the conversation like in this VIDEO. There are also different routines or gambits (which are basically jokes as well), like the one in this VIDEO. The idea is tha…
/r/seduction06/02/26 09:39 AM
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she can easily sleep with another man with absolutely no money/future for free just because he was "hot". You’re putting all the eggs in one basket, but you didn’t mention that ONLY certain women behave like that. Others will avoid a “hot” man simply because they know it won’t lead to anything serious and they want to protect their ego. Some will test him to see if he’s actually genuine or not. There are all kinds of personalities and temperaments. I would never say “she can easily sleep with an…
/r/seduction06/02/26 08:45 AM
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It’s not really about “improvement”, because everyone already knows the basics: dress well, smell good, be clean, wear decent clothes, don’t slouch… all these things are common sense. Most of the time there’s nothing major to improve, maybe just minor adjustments that don’t really matter. Almost always, it’s about communication, social skills, charisma because at some point you need to open your mouth and talk about a topic created out of nothing. That’s where most people fail. How do you learn …
/r/seduction06/02/26 08:00 AM
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Now what happens when you run out of gambit to show her? You leave. Totally wrong! I’m not some robot running: ‘Gambit 1, gambit 2, gambit 3… error if she doesn’t respond.’ I’m a normal human being,I have my own life, my own stories, and basic social skills like everyone else. But gambits are my plan B. I always know I’ll have something to say the moment I approach a girl, it gives me a boost of courage. Imagine you have to talk about climate change in front of an audience. Can you do it right n…
/r/seduction05/02/26 03:11 PM
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Awkward silence appears simply because of a lack of ideas. She’s not very enthusiastic about talking to me, so all the weight falls on me… that’s the simple truth. She doesn’t give me topics to talk about, so I have to improvise and create the conversation myself. Is there an awkward moment of silence? I just raise my hand, show her my black finger, and instantly it creates a context: vampires, rock music, tattoos/piercings, cosmetics… it’s that simple. You start a conversation with someone? The…
/r/seduction05/02/26 02:38 PM
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Oh yes. That’s why I carry fake piercings from Temu, a lighter, a hair tie, a piece of cotton, a leather bracelet… all these little things help me create a context to naturally start a conversation with a woman, and they also help me keep the conversation going even when my mind goes completely blank. I even paint my pinky nail black. I’m basically ‘fully equipped’ when I go out, although lately I’ve started using these things less and less... however yesterday I used once the fake piercings fro…
/r/seduction05/02/26 01:13 PM
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I know it’s hard to accept. Still, if you feel relaxed wearing a cheap Walmart tracksuit, why don’t you walk around the city in it? Why do you change your clothes? Why do you look in the mirror before you go out? Tell me you want to look good for yourself, that makes no sense... .Accept it or don’t, it’s still external validation. Endorphins aren’t released only through exercise, they also come from eating what you like (especially chocolate), sitting in the sun, listening to music, laughing, or…
/r/seduction05/02/26 12:29 PM
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In theory, in a general and vague way, it sounds good, but the moment you look deeper, you’ll see how nonsensical it becomes. Do you dress in Armani and Gucci, wear expensive perfume, and buy a luxury watch just to stay locked inside your house? Of course not. Do you go to the gym to build muscle so you can admire yourself in the mirror at home? Then why do you wear fitted clothes that highlight the body you built at the gym? It’s basically like: I do it for myself… but the first chance I get, I…
/r/seduction05/02/26 11:52 AM
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Right, at the end of the day he still has to go out there, but having even a tiny clue of what he’s supposed to do is not the same as starting from zero. People are looking for simplicity, and that’s why most of them ignore theory. Some even say you don’t need to learn anything, just practice. However, I don’t like this method of teaching. In any field, in any domain, there’s always a bit of theory + practice.
/r/seduction04/02/26 10:50 AM
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I doubt that’s the best way to learn. - Experience in the field means learning from your mistakes, it’s one way of learning. It’s like wanting to learn how to cook, and instead of studying recipes, you just mix things together until you figure out how to make a dish. - The other method is to actually learn a few jokes, funny lines, routines like these: VIDEO, VIDEO or VIDEO (using double meaning sentences)…
/r/seduction04/02/26 10:04 AM
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- “No tactics, no routine, no canned lines”… but then the author tells me to say this and that. If that’s not a tactic or a mini‑routine, what is it? - “No manipulation”… but then the author tells me to say a sentence and stay silent and wait for her reaction... If that’s not manipulation, what would you call it? This is the quality of RSD and a lot of self‑help "be natural/genuine" products… Funny how they keep saying "no, this isn’t routine‑based" even though on the next page there’s literally…
/r/seduction03/02/26 10:41 AM
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No, not your name , it’s way too early for a name. Anything else works better, even the classic ‘Hi, how’s it going?’ What’s next? Like you said, asking the questions feels weird, so it has to be a remark… the easiest one is: ‘I like… XYZ, but I don’t like [something else].’ but you need to make this tricky to create a subject to talk about and what's the easiest way? Say something incorectly. For example; "I like the black color of your skirt (or bag, scarf, T‑shirt), but I don’t like your [say…
/r/seduction02/02/26 06:37 PM
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It wasn’t really a fear of rejection. I just cared more about not letting the other person feel any kind of satisfaction. I used to feel like starting a conversation automatically put me in an inferior position. Like the moment I approached someone, I was silently admitting they were above me. And my ego hated that. I didn’t want to give anyone the chance to feel superior, so I’d rather stay silent than risk it. That’s the silly ego I’m talking about. It’s like this one minute hit of satisfactio…
/r/seduction02/02/26 10:13 AM
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You know that phrase "Fake it 'till you make it"? If you have no confidence, pretend that you do until you actually become confident. Always be authentic. If you present yourself as an apple, and she likes apples, what's going to happen when she finds out you're a pear? In one place you said "fake it till you make it" then "Always be authentic. " ...... Also, I noticed that "cold read" , "shite test", "push‑pull" "Limit texting." "try to bring up multiple topics when texting" and a few easy conc…
/r/seduction01/02/26 04:35 PM
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Whenever someone talks in extremes, it’s never good. That’s how we end up with all kinds of fluff talk, when in reality being 100% on one side is just as bad as being on the opposite side. We get ‘nice guys vs. bad boys,’ ‘needy vs. outcome‑independent,’ ‘abundance vs. scarcity,’ and so on… Neither extreme is good, you need to find a balance between them. You also need to understand how both types of extremes push people away.
/r/seduction01/02/26 10:14 AM
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Mystery broke down a conversation with a woman into small stages to show what actually happens in each part. Everyone communicates this way, you can’t avoid the basic structure of beginning, middle, and end. The middle naturally contains jokes, stories, routines… every conversation goes through these phases. All Mystery did was explain what fills those stages that already exist. So if someone says they already knew this without reading the book, sure, there are other ways to learn. Even walking …
/r/seduction01/02/26 02:20 AM
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If you’ve been around this stuff for a while, then you definitely know that the Mystery Method is effective… there’s no way to ignore that. I could comment a lot on what you said, but it’s not worth it, because you’re simply giving people what they want, it’s perfectly normal to fall into their circle. I’ve noticed that whenever I mention a gambit or a small trick to make things easier, I get tons of criticism, but the moment I say some vague line like ‘IDGF, I say what I want, be genuine,’ sudd…
/r/seduction01/02/26 12:41 AM
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The piece of cotton isn’t meant to lower a woman’s self‑esteem, it’s just to create an opener out of nothing. What I mean is that I’m not that talkative, social, or charismatic to always know what to say and stand out. Sometimes my mind just goes completely blank, and when that happens, having a plan B gives me a real advantage. Even when I literally have no idea what to say, a simple prop completely hides that weakness. There’s no point in bragging about how charismatic I am or how good my game…
/r/seduction31/01/26 09:28 PM
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If you tell someone ‘be yourself’ he will understand exactly what it means.... Take any dictionary and you won't see near "be yourself " = work on yourself, develop yourself, not fake authenticity..... "Be yourself" is one of the vaguest and silliest pieces of advice you can give someone when you have nothing else to say but still want to tell him something.
/r/seduction31/01/26 05:36 PM
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There aren’t enough examples for people to really get it… even now there are people who still don’t understand the neg. And you’re saying it’s easy? Where do the 16 steps come from? over-complicated logic The logic is ridiculously easy once you’ve figured it out. otherwise it remains a mystery. In any conversation you’ll notice those patterns… take any "natural" or RSD guy, and look carefully at what he says.... you will spot those concepts. A bunch of gimmicks that are more appropriated for a 1…
/r/seduction31/01/26 05:22 PM
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As an exercise, about 6 years ago I used to do all kinds of silly things. I told my friends that I would approach a woman in ‘Chuck Norris mode’ (confident, acting like the world is mine), or like Mr. Bean (doing goofy things), or Jackie Chan (pretending I’m not a native speaker), or even like a cowboy (enjoying my drink with that laid‑back attitude). What happened? Nothing… the women just thought I was drunk or an idiot. It’s funny when you do it with your group of friends as a challange, and i…
/r/seduction31/01/26 01:08 PM
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Elaborate. Can you give me an example of something that is outdated? (not something related to technology, since that obviously evolved)
/r/seduction31/01/26 12:36 PM
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- "How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed" by Mystery is where you will find all kinds of techniques. There aren’t many examples to illustrate each concept, which is why the book is difficult to understand at first. - "The Game" by Neil Strauss is just the story around the seduction community.
/r/seduction31/01/26 12:33 PM
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The seduction game has evolved since then Besides the rise of technology, in what other ways has it changed? With a single example I'm happy.
/r/seduction31/01/26 12:27 PM
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These are two different things. Seduction is about making the first move, that’s all we’re talking about here, how to approach a woman for a hook‑up, you need to use all kinds of methods and principles. But when it comes to long‑term relationships, it’s no longer about seduction. Things change completely: now we’re talking about "lifestyle" and "dating"… that’s a whole different chapter.
/r/seduction31/01/26 11:52 AM
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But if you were already dating more, You can learn cooking by actually preparing food, you can learn football by actually playing football, actually you can learn ANY skill by actually doing it. But my question is: is this really the right way to learn, jumping straight into action without even knowing what you’re doing? (learn from mistakes) There are steps you need to follow, and you gradually apply what you already know in theory.... There’s no need to be a lone wolf and try to do everything …
/r/seduction31/01/26 11:34 AM
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Funny how the principles in Buddhism are exactly the same as the principles all dating coaches talk about.
/r/seduction31/01/26 11:26 AM
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You messed something up along the way, probably in the last five minutes, that’s the most likely explanation. There’s another possibility, although I don’t really believe it, you were in that ‘middle phase’ where they weren’t sure what was going on, but during those 20 minutes they formed an impression and decided to drop you. I don’t believe that, because it makes no sense for a woman to talk to someone for 15–20 minutes and then suddenly not be interested at the end. I’ve never seen anything l…
/r/seduction31/01/26 11:08 AM
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Talking about "volume" is extremely superficial. It’s like asking how many attempts Michael Jordan needs to score a basket. Probably one or two. But a beginner who has never shot a basketball in his life will obviously need many more attempts. It’s about experience in choosing the right target, you don’t just go talk to every woman you see, that;s insane. If you are in a small place and you get rejected many times, other women will notice it, at that point you’re cooked. They’ll reject you too, …
/r/seduction31/01/26 10:10 AM
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If a woman gives you attention for 20 minutes and nothing happens afterward, it’s a clear sign you did something very wrong. Most of the time, they’ll let you know pretty quickly if they’re not interested.
/r/seduction31/01/26 09:57 AM
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Models is a weird book. The author says you don’t need to learn any seduction concepts… then he says that you’re a man and you’re not there to entertain the girl, but later he dedicates an entire chapter to how important humor is in conversation. Look at the phone‑texting advice: he mocks everyone who uses a texting system, but guess what? On the very next page he writes, ‘this is the system I use for texting.’ He encourages using the word ‘fucking’ because he says it’s funny. The author encoura…
/r/seduction31/01/26 12:42 AM
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Having a big ego doesn’t help you with anything. Don’t forget that prison is full of people with big egos.
/r/seduction30/01/26 10:16 PM
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"Models" tell you to go outside, but they don’t tell you how to actually create opportunities to talk to a stranger. They don’t tell you what it’s like to approach someone you don’t know, they don’t teach you how to continue after the opener, how to keep the vibe going… basically, they don’t show you the exact things you actually need. What exactly are you supposed to practice? Walking up to a stranger and, since you don’t know what to say, just laughing at yourself? The reason you don’t go outs…
/r/seduction30/01/26 09:44 PM
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It’s interesting that nobody even considers that this kind of opener is basically a lottery, high risk - high reward. It’s not a normal way to start a conversation with someone, it’s more like a probe that says, ‘I like you, want some dick?’ It’s not normal at all. Leave that boldness and those direct openers for YouTube videos, you don’t have anything to prove to anyone. Be more creative. Let your intention show after 1–2 minutes, that delay works wonders. 1 start indirectly ---> 2 watch her re…
/r/seduction30/01/26 01:51 PM
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ALL girls are DTF with them due to their game. You’re looking for something that doesn’t exist… good luck.
/r/seduction30/01/26 12:12 PM
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I can’t wait. But you know, telling a joke, a clever opener, or some ‘rizz’ in the first seconds isn’t game… the game happens during the conversation (continue evaluation). I’d be happy if someone could prove me wrong. There’s Allan Roger Currie (RIP), who had a very direct style, but I wouldn’t call that ‘game’; it’s just a method of starting a conversation with women that works in certain cases and with certain types of women. Remember the Gaussian bell curve? His method doesn’t apply to the m…
/r/seduction30/01/26 10:59 AM
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There are a lot of men who believe they’re someone important, with high status, they see themselves as above the average guy on the street, even without knowing him. This is a big silly ego. This is a huge mistake because it keeps you trapped. You see a woman, but you can’t put your pride aside, to you, it feels like lowering yourself to her level. You don’t want to give her the chance to reject you, so you prefer to control the situation by doing nothing, because that way she can’t reject you… …
/r/seduction30/01/26 10:40 AM
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Not being 'her type' isn't relevant though, apparently. Take the Gaussian bell curve into consideration: for some women you’re simply not their type, while for others you are their type, but it just happens that they need to leave, and because of their temperament, they don’t feel like giving you any explanation. There are all kinds of cases. Some will say that if you are her type they will make time for you... well debatable... is not a general rule. is saying taht you just didn't run game will…
/r/seduction30/01/26 10:18 AM
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If she rejected you, it’s a game issue. From my point of view, it’s a statement that’s half true and half false. The real question is: at what moment does the rejection actually happen? – If it happens right at the beginning, when you’ve barely said a few words, then it’s obvious that ‘game’ has nothing to do with it. – If it happens after a few seconds, it’s probably because you’re not her type, she simply doesn’t like you PLUS her temperament, personality, and character also matter (you have n…
/r/seduction30/01/26 09:40 AM
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I know what I’ve read, I connected it with what interested me… and that’s enough for me. The only mistake a lot of people make is that they stop after the first second, after the woman places a man into a category. As Fiske explains, the evaluation is continuous. After the initial categorization, if there are no strong positive or negative cues, her perception shifts into a neutral, non‑extreme state. This actually explains Mystery’s DHV than the idea of neutrality. It’s not the neutrality I wan…
/r/seduction30/01/26 12:42 AM
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A mix of everything thrown together Why did you use push‑pull? Why did you qualify someone when it wasn’t the right moment? Why did you have to disqualify someone after qualify? (it makes no sense) Light escalation… without any compliance steps? Also, you spent time when there was no need to continue (example 1), but you left when you actually needed to push things forward (example 3, when she was being polite, that’s all you need).
/r/seduction29/01/26 09:30 PM
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Solid reality check 👍
/r/seduction27/01/26 10:42 AM
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A tip for you. Next time you want to check out her ring/ bracelet/nails once she gives you her hand, say something like: ‘Come a little closer, I don’t bite. Are you scared of me?’ Keep the momentum high , you can hold her hand while pulling her closer with the other arm, under the playful pretext: "See? I don’t bite… I don’t even scratch. I’m just curious how long it took you to paint your nails."
/r/seduction27/01/26 10:33 AM
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It’s a mix of compliance steps and kino… if you tell her to move 2–3 meters away and she doesn’t, how do you expect her to follow you a longer distance? And if she isn’t comfortable with you touching her arm, how do you think she’ll feel comfortable kissing you? There are simple steps you need to try to see how far you can go… it starts with something small and unimportant and can end with ‘let’s grab a taxi.’ It starts with an accidental touch and ends with lifting her up. Everything happens pr…
/r/seduction27/01/26 10:23 AM
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You think you’re immature? What about someone who’s 47 and still prefers approaching women in their 20s? That’s me. You need to be where they are, for me it works outside a well‑known club in my city. And if I’m there around 12:30–1 AM… well, I’ll let your imagination do the rest. It is a bit difficult because a 15-16 look like 20+ also they throw a bit of irony at me, but a joke will fix a lot of things: "I’m Santa in disguise, checking if you’re nice or naughty…" The point is, you need to work…
/r/seduction27/01/26 10:07 AM
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They are creeped out by me just for even trying. How do you do this? Hopefully it’s not the direct opener, because that’s not a normal way to start a conversation with a stranger. I’ve said this a hundred times on this sub. Being universally ugly and autistic I don’t know how serious it is for someone to be ‘autistic’, because I don’t know much about the condition. When you say ‘ugly’, do you mean because of an actual deformity, or simply because you don’t like what you see in the mirror? There’…
/r/seduction26/01/26 09:14 PM
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Read that article carefully if you’re into psychology, it will help you understand human beings without throwing around half‑right statements. It’s not fully correct, but it’s not fully wrong either… you simply can’t summarize 100 pages in a couple of sentences. The simple fact that some women literally say: ‘At first I didn’t like him, but now we’re together’… that alone should make you think that maybe I actually know what I’m talking about and on top of this I even gave you article that confi…
/r/seduction26/01/26 08:10 PM
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If your ideas are valid and backed up, I have no problem admitting when I’m wrong. Seriously, if you see anything I’ve written so far that’s incorrect and you can argue it properly, I won’t get upset. Quite the opposite. In your case, without knowing you personally, the simple fact that you said neutrality doesn’t apply to you tells me you’re a bit disconnected from reality. You’re not just contradicting me, you’re contradicting actual scientific research on human psychology. What are you even t…
/r/seduction26/01/26 07:46 PM
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Read some psychology, mate. It’s easy, it’s an article under 100 pages. You can summarize it with AI and actually understand how a human being works… not whatever some loud‑mouthed influencer is saying on YouTube or TikTok.
/r/seduction26/01/26 07:23 PM
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Google “A Continuum Model of Impression Formation” Fiske Neuberg 1990" It’s about Fiske, a Princeton University professor and one of the most influential authors in psychology, and Neuberg, an American social psychologist.....
/r/seduction26/01/26 07:14 PM
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Read some psychology, mate. Look up the Gaussian bell curve and you’ll see what the extremes look like and what’s in the middle. BTW it’s not just women who are in a neutral state, the same goes for men. It applies to any human being. PS - I found the article where from I took the idea. Google for “A Continuum Model of Impression Formation” Fiske Neuberg 1990
/r/seduction26/01/26 07:02 PM
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If she wants you, she wants you. If she doesn't good luck seducing her. Your idea doesn’t make any sense, because in neither extreme does ‘game’ actually matter. – If she likes you, there’s no point in using ‘game’ why would you? She already likes you. – If she doesn’t like you, you won’t even get the chance to use ‘game’ no matter what you say, you’re still the guy she doesn’t want to talk to. Fortunately, most of the time a woman is in a NEUTRAL state, she doesn’t really like you yet, but she’…
/r/seduction26/01/26 06:46 PM
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How do you win a fight against a pro? Just hit him more times than he hits you, done!’ Can you tell me I’m wrong? No. But that only works if you’re already trained, with conditioning, experience, and all that. OP isn’t wrong; anything is better than nothing, but there are a lot of other factors you need to take into consideration for that method to actually work... there are so many that I even said: " it’s not for us, regular people."
/r/seduction26/01/26 02:11 PM
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I’m not good‑looking and I don’t get looks from women, so my strategy is completely different. Of course, if you do get looks, you should smile (that’s obvious) and smiling alone isn’t enough, you also need to say hi. So yes, it works. The real question is: are you a handsome guy?
/r/seduction26/01/26 01:46 PM
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Who said you need to be busy? Everyone wants more free time, not to be constantly occupied. The point is that if you stay home, nothing will happen. You need to get out of the house, even if it’s just a walk through town, because that’s how you meet new people.
/r/seduction26/01/26 01:22 PM
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There are always exceptions to any rule, but it makes no sense to focus on them. Instead of talking about things that happen 1 out of 100 times, it’s much better to talk about things that happen 90 out of 100 times... You need a way to have the odds on your side. You know... What do you do if a dog barks and runs toward you? Do you just stand at the base of the tree, relying on the fact that sometimes dogs don’t bite, or do you climb the tree as fast as you can? Based on probabilities, the dog w…
/r/seduction26/01/26 10:09 AM
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making at least 40-50 approaches per night How socially uncalibrated does someone have to be to make such an insane number of approaches in such a short period of time? if you open a girl and you're not her type at all and there's no attraction there, your 'game' is irrelevant. I was expecting you to continue, but you stopped there, giving the impression that a human being has only two states: she either finds you attractive or she doesn’t. But you know… even if you’re her type, using ‘game’ mak…
/r/seduction26/01/26 09:40 AM
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Nobody says you should try to ‘work’ on disinterested women, it’s simply not possible. And if a woman is already interested, then using ‘game’ makes no sense either. However, in most cases women are neutral toward you. They’re not interested, but they’re not uninterested either, they’re just friendly, nice, and polite. This is the moment when you need to put in some work and use ‘game,’ because that’s how you show her that you’re a friendly, playful, optimistic, cool guy. And everyone enjoys tal…
/r/seduction26/01/26 08:47 AM
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that is why we have the 1 hour Same Day Lays In certain places with certain types of women, you need 10-15 minutes. There’s nothing advanced, it’s just about being in the right place at the right moment + don't be picky.
/r/seduction25/01/26 06:40 PM
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Elaborate: why is mass approaching perfectly fine? And why do you recommend it?
/r/seduction25/01/26 03:21 PM
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You can learn MMA by actually fighting, you can learn cooking by preparing food… basically you can learn anything by doing it. But would you really prefer to embarrass yourself in front of people just to say you’re ‘learning’? If that’s your approach, fine do it your way. But if you have a social reputation to maintain, then the right order is THEORY first, PRACTICE after. Not jumping straight into practice without knowing what you’re doing. By the way… what’s your advice for someone who asks yo…
/r/seduction25/01/26 03:11 PM
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A quick YouTube or Rambler search shows countless RSD videos, boring as hell, spending hours on tiny concepts, and you still end up with no idea what to say or do. But don’t worry, they have a solution: just ‘buy the next product’ and learn from there… and if you still have no idea, no worries, they’ve released another product, so buy that one too. If you still have no idea, then it’s your fault for ‘not studying enough’ but don’t worry, they have another solution: book a meeting with them. Tyle…
/r/seduction25/01/26 09:36 AM
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There’s nothing to learn from it, it’s simply a confirmation that ‘It’s dark, I could scare her’ is a real concern, not an approach‑anxiety excuse. It’s an actual situation that can happen.
/r/seduction24/01/26 10:35 PM
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Actually, the whole "It’s dark, I could scare her" thing is something I’ve experienced myself. In this VIDEO i filmed with a spycam. I walked about 50 meters down a dark street behind two girls, and when I finally approached them in a better‑lit area with people around, one of them literally said, "I thought you were stalking us"
/r/seduction24/01/26 09:09 PM
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Sometimes there are valid excuses and you simply can’t be indifferent , like when you’re at work or you need to be a little bit careful when " she's in my social circle " Other excuses are unacceptable, such as: ‘because I didn’t happen to dress well enough today." Some of them are silly like " she'll know that I was only pretending to have a platonic conversation for the past hour," because a conversation with a girl only takes a few minutes, and if things go well, it stops being a platonic int…
/r/seduction24/01/26 08:20 PM
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But I don't see any problems with 1000 approaches. That's only 2 or 3 a day for a year. You’re right, OP didn’t say over what period he plans to approach 1000 women. If it’s only 2–3–4–5 a day, that’s actually fine. But when I hear "mass approaching" I understand something different. I picture someone using the same opener and hitting on women like an approach machine… which is insane. That’s funny in a YouTube video, but it’s not beneficial and it makes no sense in real life.
/r/seduction24/01/26 07:51 PM
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In RSD theory, as RSD Max says, yes social calibration and reading social cues come after the approach. But they never mention that this only works if you already have high social skills and good improvisation. How many guys are like that??? So… yes, if you’re that type of guy, go ahead and do what they said: you see a girl, you walk straight up to her. Doesn’t matter if she’s at the gym, with her parents, with someone next to her, if she’s busy, eating/drinking… no problem, just go. But if you’…
/r/seduction24/01/26 07:42 PM
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The alternative to not approaching 1000 women isn’t being a complete loser. See? You’re talking in extremes exactly like "nice guys vs bad boys" or "being needy vs outcome independent", "abunance vs scarcity" and so on..... Neither extreme is good, both extremes push people away in different ways. A guy who’s depressed has certain traits he can’t control (depending on how severe the depression is). What you’re saying is like telling someone with the flu to stop coughing and act healthy… it’s not…
/r/seduction24/01/26 07:21 PM
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The modern trend says you need to approach 1000 women. You can’t see how ridiculous that is, right? You’ve heard it so many times that it starts to feel normal to you. All the modern coaches, instead of telling you what you actually need to do, and teaching you how this is done, they will just say: "Go hit on 1000 women, it’s a numbers game, you don’t need to learn anything, just be yourself, bro… be genuine, be natural"... Maybe you see the irony. If you don’t, no problem, I wish you good luck.
/r/seduction24/01/26 06:57 PM
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willingness to mass approach Only a very uncalibrated guy, someone with zero ability to read basic social cues, would do what you described. Sure, it’s better than nothing, but it’s far from ideal. bring FACTS. It’s not easy, because it means wearing a spycam or having someone film you. When that happens, you’re no longer the real you. A part of you is always thinking how you look on the screen but is better than nothing VIDEO, VIDEO no crazy confidence, no boldness, no deep voice, no voice proj…
/r/seduction24/01/26 06:24 PM
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We don’t have to reinvent the wheel here: “If you can make a woman laugh, you can make her do anything" - Marilyn Monroe
/r/seduction24/01/26 05:01 PM
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i don't like the idea of me asking a random woman about her number or her contact Before you even get to the stage where you ask for her number, there are a lot of steps. You’ll probably be the guy who just says ‘nice talking to you’ and walks away. You can’t know someone’s character from a single glance. She might look like a beautifully wrapped box, but once you open it, there’s trash inside. And anyway, you don’t ask for someone’s number in 10 seconds. There will be a conversation, you’ll see…
/r/seduction24/01/26 09:05 AM
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There’s a lot to explain, but I’ll try to keep it short. Use the London Daygame Model to start: open with whatever you want, followed immediately by staking. For example: “What I noticed about you is…” or “You look like you're from X because…” or “You look like you work in X industry because…” At this point, she will either give you a direct reply like: “No, I’m not a cashier…” or you’ll get a reaction (usually a smile). Either way, now you have a topic to talk about. Comment her answer or if th…
/r/seduction23/01/26 10:09 PM
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No, mate. IOIs help a lot, that’s for sure, but most of the time you won’t get any IOI before you approach. Girls are very discreet, they’re not obvious, in the best‑case scenario you’ll only get small hints. What I mean is that you should filter the girls you approach the same way a farmer filters bad apples on the ground, he doesn’t even touch them, because he already knows they’re not good. Of course, filtering means you’ll lose some opportunities, but at least you make things easier for your…
/r/seduction23/01/26 06:06 PM
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his game wasn't able to 'turn' her and force her to be attracted. Now you’ve said everything you know about "game". You don’t use ‘game’ when a girl is already attracted to you, and you don’t use it when she’s not attracted at all. "Game" is ONLY for situations where a girl is polite enough to talk to you, she’s NEUTRAL at first, and because she’s willing to listen, you can show up as a cool, pleasant, social, optimistic guy using seduction principles, or you can just ‘be yourself’ and hope for …
/r/seduction23/01/26 05:35 PM
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That’s the Leonardo DiCaprio or James Bond method… it’s not for us, regular people.
/r/seduction23/01/26 04:08 PM
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You’ve taken the "cat string theory" to an extreme. Too much indifference is just as bad as being overly eager, because both push people away in different ways. Balance is the key… something the Chinese understood over 2000 years ago with the concept of yin and yang.... For example, that’s why push‑pull exists: if you give too many compliments, you balance things out with a push.
/r/seduction23/01/26 09:08 AM
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as if there haven't been advancements in the past 20 years. If you claim something has changed, give me 2–3 examples. I’m very curious if you can actually find anything that has genuinely improved (without techology or online dating/apps).
/r/seduction22/01/26 11:00 PM
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none of the theory I read helped What kind of theories did you read?
/r/seduction21/01/26 07:21 PM
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That’s how you shoot yourself in the foot, thinking you don’t need to learn anything. ‘Just be yourself,’ ‘say whatever you want’… and then expecting women to like you exactly as you are. And if they don’t, just find another one… and another one. Approach 1000 women, go to another city… that’s the modern trend. At first I thought it was a joke, but no, some guys actually believe this.
/r/seduction21/01/26 07:19 PM
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Models is based on the premise that you don’t need to learn anything "just be yourself" and if a girl isn’t receptive, simply move on. This is basically fishing, even the author says he doesn’t waste time on undecided girls, when in reality you need to apply seduction concepts precisely on these types of girls, not on the ones who already like you or the ones who clearly aren’t interested.
/r/seduction21/01/26 06:28 PM
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The human beings are more complex than a binary thinking YES or NO, 1 or 0, black or white, I like him - I don't like him. How many times have you heard a woman saying "at first I didn’t like him… but now we’re together." or "he’s not really my type… I don’t know… we’ll see what happens later." It’s the same principle in sales: if you have a product, you won’t get rich by targeting only the people who are already interested. You become wealthy, and a truly skilled salesman, when the undecided on…
/r/seduction19/01/26 09:20 AM
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It makes no sense to use a seduction technique on someone who clearly isn’t interested in listening to you. It also makes no sense to use seduction techniques on someone who is already genuinely interested in you. So… when should you actually use seduction techniques? When the girl is neither attracted to you nor repulsed by you, she’s simply polite enough to listen. That’s the moment when you can use seduction techniques, because that’s how you become a cool, friendly, positive and optimistic p…
/r/seduction18/01/26 11:41 PM
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It’s a timeline. In the beginning, you’re talking about 80% of the time. After a few minutes, once she’s engaged, things shift, you’ll be talking about 30% However, most of the time we’re not that lucky, from 80% it will drop to around 50–60%, just like you said. naturally “speak” less to girls. When? At the beginning? No way. Later on, everyone talks less to girls.
/r/seduction17/01/26 08:03 PM
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That article is basically PUA hate, there’s so much hostility in it that it’s hard to even explain.
/r/seduction17/01/26 07:56 PM
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people used to be brainwashed into thinking they could force attraction in a girl with game tech (pushpull, teasing, negs, self amusement blabala) despite it never actually working If people don’t know when to use those techniques, they start believing they’re some kind of magic tricks. Nobody tells them that, in reality, there are three main situations: - If a woman already finds you attractive, there’s no point in using any technique. You can say whatever you want, at this stage you can litera…
/r/seduction17/01/26 10:00 AM
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"Reading vibe" is actually named calibration. It seems like you prefer figuring everything out on your own, but that’s a mistake because other people have already discovered the things you’re just now realizing. Listen to what others already know, everything will move faster. “What do you want to know?” It depends on her tone and attitude, but in general it looks like a great way to start a conversation with her. The sky’s the limit, it’s one of the best replies you can get, especially since the…
/r/seduction17/01/26 09:40 AM
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Social skills are the ability to interact with people, how you keep a conversation going, how you handle tension or silence, how you adapt to the other person’s energy, how you create comfort.... Some guys develop these skills naturally just by going out with friends and talking to people… otherwise, these skills take time to build, but they are faster to learn with a few routines/ gambits. However, you need to be good at improvisation, because it’s the ability to think quickly. If you’re good a…
/r/seduction14/01/26 05:53 PM
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That scene with RSD Tyler is from one of his paid courses. He literally said those words right next to a group of women, leaning toward one of them and saying those veggies one by one, the whole thing was filmed. I’m not sure exactly which one (I think RSD Hot Seat At Home, but I'm not 100%). It is the one where he helps three guys approach women, and all three students end up taking a taxi with the women. In the video, RSD Tyler and another dating coach joke around and say "we’re the worst teac…
/r/seduction14/01/26 05:23 PM
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Just turn it into a joke don’t treat it seriously. It’s not like saying "you look pretty tired" and then just pausing… You actually need to keep talking and add something playful....
/r/seduction14/01/26 03:24 PM
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You need to make things easier for yourself. You set the stage for getting her number simply by asking something like: "Do you like pizza?" or ice cream, or tea, or water… All you need is her positive answer, just remember it. Then, when the moment comes to ask for her number, you say "we should grab a pizza together" or ice cream, or tea, or whatever she said she likes. "give me your number so we can see when we both have time, I know the best spot in town". So the script is: "see that tree? Do…
/r/seduction14/01/26 02:08 PM
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Why don’t you make things easier for yourself? Whether you get her number or not doesn’t depend on the exact words you use when you ask. What really matters are the things you do/say BEFORE you ask (the VIBE), she’ll either like what she’s seen or she won’t. And if everything has gone well up to that point, the way you ask doesn’t matter anymore, you can say it however you want.
/r/seduction14/01/26 01:59 PM
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It depends on how you continue after a sentence like that. I saw RSD Tyler say to a woman: "potatoes, onions, carrots, cabbage" and when she looked confused at him, he followed up with: "those are the veggies I like to use for a salad, do you like salad?" See? If your improvisation skills are strong, it doesn’t really matter what you say at first, you can easily recover from anything silly you might have said. However, if you’re not good at improvisation, it’s better not to make things harder th…
/r/seduction14/01/26 01:40 PM
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I tihnk the 'techniques' and stuff is mostly pure marketing, bro science nonsense. It looks that way at first glance because nobody goes into the details. When you approach a woman, she’s always in one of three categories: - She probably finds you attractive: in that case there’s no point in using any technique or ‘seduction method’ because there’s nothing left to seduce. - She finds you unattractive: in that case nothing you do will change her perception of you. No matter what you try, you’ll s…
/r/seduction13/01/26 10:55 AM
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Like many other concepts out there, this is another one that people misunderstand and take to the extreme. It’s one thing when you’re desperate and sitting with your phone in your hand, ready to reply instantly, and it’s completely different when you’re just doing your own things and happen to get a message while you’re available. There’s nothing wrong with replying in that case. Yes, you can pretend to be busy, but be careful, she’ll just mirror your behavior and you’ll end up exactly in the si…
/r/seduction13/01/26 09:50 AM
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I cold approached a woman at the gym I’m curious, why did you feel the need to turn a normal chat into a challenge? Do you only meet girls at the gym? What were you trying to prove?
/r/seduction13/01/26 09:26 AM
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Don't fall into the trap of binary thinking: 1 or 0, black or white, rich or poor, day or night, attractive or unattractive. It’s never that simple... a human being is always far more complex. It is said that you don't get rich by only selling to people who already need your product... you get rich by convincing the undecided to buy. The same principle applies to seduction. There are plenty of NEUTRAL (undecided) women out there this is where you have control, and where the attraction level can …
/r/seduction11/01/26 02:51 PM
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I really don't know what's in the middle. According to London Daygame Model, there are 5 stages: 1- (In the beginning) Opener 2- (the next thing you say after opener) Staking 3- Vibing (once she answer your previous question or she gives you a reaction to your question): this is the stage where most rejections happen. At this point, the girl might make a comment or ask a question to keep the conversation going, or she could easily drop hints that she is not interested. 4- Investing: you achive t…
/r/seduction11/01/26 02:30 PM
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Complimenting someone at events/restaurants makes sense when they’ve clearly put effort into their appearance, but doing it randomly on the street isn’t something I’d recommend.
/r/seduction11/01/26 11:49 AM
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if deep inside yo ur heart and soul you knew you were cool, awesome, These things you imagine and belive in, help maybe 5%-10%. If you only think you’re cool or awesome but you’re not, that’s just an illusion. You’ll end up laughing alone at jokes only you understand.
/r/seduction11/01/26 11:36 AM
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This idea comes from Mystery’s book, where he suggests acting indifferent when approaching a woman (the cat string theory) + you need to do a few other things. However, some "gurus" pushed this advice to the extreme, and now we have your version of the theory. I’ve even seen people take it further, claiming that you should just go to a bar, have fun, and… somehow women will magically appear around you. I know one thing: if you act indifferent, they’ll be indifferent too. But if you’re desperate,…
/r/seduction10/01/26 06:18 PM
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You can simplify everything by talking about balance, the old Chinese concept of Yin and Yang. Don’t talk about extremes like "nice guys" versus "bad boys" that’s just fluff, because either extreme is just as bad. It’s the same as always doing "push" or always doing "pull", you need both for things to work effectively.
/r/seduction10/01/26 02:24 PM
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Luckily, a girl is not just 1 or 0, she either finds you attractive or unattractive. There are three main situations: - if she already finds you attractive, there’s no point in using any "game" - if she doesn’t find you attractive at all, there’s no method or formula that will change her mind. - the girl needs to be in a NEUTRAL state (she doesn’t find you attractive, but she isn’t repulsed either). This is the moment when you can either amplify the level of attraction or make it disappear compl…
/r/seduction10/01/26 02:17 PM
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It’s very difficult because you can easily come across as being drunk or high.
/r/seduction10/01/26 12:29 PM
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1 in 5 years.
/r/seduction09/01/26 10:07 PM
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In my teens I was very chubby For some girls you’re a teddy bear, others will tell you to hit the gym… see? You haven’t even tried, and you’ve already missed all those opportunities. You’re putting way too much focus on your looks. Yes, they matter because they’re part of the first impression, but you’re blowing it out of proportion. You only need the basics: be clean, smell good, have a decent haircut… simple things you can fix in a few minutes, not months or years like losing weight or put 6 p…
/r/seduction09/01/26 08:21 PM
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Nothing guarantee that she will react as you said. There are so many different temperaments a person can have… How do you know how an extroverted person will react? What if she’s also shy? What if she’s not looking for anything at the moment? What if she’s neutral and actually expecting you to make a move? These are just a few situations where you’ll get completely different reactions… it’s hard to assume anything.
/r/seduction09/01/26 08:00 PM
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The modern trend is oversimplification to the point where they don’t teach you anything anymore. No push‑pull, no qualify/disqualify, no gambits or routines, nothing. They give you the excuse that if you use any of that, you’re no longer authentic, you’re not being yourself, and you’re just acting or playing a role. So what solution is left if they don’t teach you anything? You’re supposed to learn everything on your own. You end up with a dating coach who basically has no real work to do except…
/r/seduction09/01/26 12:46 PM
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The reality is that all the famous dating coaches get attacked because the younger coaches are trying to promote their own products in a dirty way. John Anthony started this trend by mocking every dating coach (his channel was taken down), and now we have Bayne doing the same thing… and many others as well. Literally mocking other people’s products just to launch your own has basically become a trend.
/r/seduction09/01/26 12:29 PM
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Every rule has exceptions, but a football player doesn’t shoot from the middle of the field just because once in a while someone scores from there. In the same way, a woman who doesn’t seem interested is far more likely to stay uninterested than to completely change her attitude. Sure, it can happen from time to time, but it’s a lottery, like shooting from midfield and hoping you’ll score.
/r/seduction09/01/26 11:27 AM
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These days, marketers play very dirty. It’s also possible that his video editor was getting some monetary benefit from other dating coaches and wanted to make Owen look bad to put his competitors in a better position. It’s also possible that his video editor had seen him do it so many times that he was simply getting bored of watching the same thing over and over. As I said, after a while it stops being impressive. I know about James Marshall, he had a guy who filmed his infield videos, and afte…
/r/seduction09/01/26 09:45 AM
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For every rule that exists, there will always be an exception. But if we’re looking at a whole set of events, which ones are actually the most likely to occur? I don't know you and your experience but if I look at me and at my friends, I can make a conclusion. In your case, out of 100 women who know you’re married, how many do you think would actually approach you? How many would chase you? Sure, it might happen once in a while, but the fact that it happens occasionally doesn’t make it a rule. T…
/r/seduction08/01/26 11:00 PM
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We don’t know much about the person who evaluated him. It’s similar to an apprentice working under a master: at first he’s impressed by the skills, then he becomes less amazed, and eventually what he sees just feels normal to him because he’s already witnessed the same thing many times.
/r/seduction08/01/26 08:42 PM
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My answer to your post is both yes and no at the same time… there’s no point in continuing or explaining any further. I see a robotic way of thinking with ZERO real‑world experience behind it.... Best of luck mate!
/r/seduction08/01/26 06:27 PM
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pro move is for you to chat up to other women What the hell, mate? This isn’t a competition you don’t do things as some kind of revenge. The pro move is to ask her if she knows the guy, maybe he’s a colleague, a brother, a neighbour, etc. If she tells you she doesn’t know him, then you’re dealing with what Mystery calls an AMOG, and there are plenty of ways to get rid of him. If the girl keeps talking to him, that’s a major sign of disrespect… At that point, consider that you no longer have a gi…
/r/seduction08/01/26 05:14 PM
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Mate, if you’re thinking in a robotic way just in terms of MEN and WOMEN as fixed categories then yes, you’re right, it makes no sense....... BUT ...... you also need to take into consideration other human traits like common sense, social norms, morality, personality types, and so on. Once you include those factors, things change, and the role reversal makes perfect sense, since all these traits belong to all human beings they apply to both men and women. I even mentioned that out of respect and…
/r/seduction08/01/26 05:04 PM
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Intrasexual competition is a general term that applies only at the broad gender level, like MEN and WOMEN. But once you look deeper into the category of WOMEN, you’ll find all kinds of personalities and temperaments, and they won’t all behave the same. - If she sees you with another woman, she might want to prove she can get a boyfriend too, and in 30 minutes you might see her walking around with another guy. - Or she might switch into the "I’ll show you what you lost" mode, and suddenly she sho…
/r/seduction08/01/26 03:02 PM
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Imagine the roles reversed. The girl you’re interested in is next to another man at an event. Would you try to compete with him? Unlikely. And if you wouldn’t do that out of respect and social norms, a girl is even less likely to do it. I’m not a fortune teller, but from a basic moral standpoint, it seems obvious OP will lose girl B for good.
/r/seduction08/01/26 02:20 PM
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In my opinion, it matters a lot to be a social person, someone who actually has something to say, knows how to turn conversations into jokes, and can create playful moments. I think the reason you can’t apply what you know is because you’re aware that you don’t fully master those jokes, punchlines, or funny stories yet, and that awareness makes you hesitate. It’s like speaking on a stage: if you had to improvise, it would be extremely hard, but if you prepared beforehand, took notes, and knew ex…
/r/seduction08/01/26 02:04 PM
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It’s interesting how some people have a tendency to overcomplicate things for no reason. From my point of view, your method is basically a guaranteed way to say goodbye to girl B forever.
/r/seduction08/01/26 12:39 PM
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Read the book "How to Pick Up Girls" by Eric Weber, written in 1970. You’ll see direct, confident openers in there, because the author explains that some women prefer a bold, direct opener, while others respond better to a softer approach. There are all kinds of opener examples… and you’ll see with your own eyes that everything is still applicable even after 50 years. After the opener, you actually need to say something, so what comes next? If you’re naturally social, you’ll know how to keep thi…
/r/seduction07/01/26 11:32 PM
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So… if you’re not naturally handsome, you’re cooked? Nope, that’s not how it works. Phil Heitlinger talks with James Tusk about the issue in this VIDEO you’ll understand it better.
/r/seduction07/01/26 05:46 PM
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- What about someone who’s physically good‑looking but makes a bad first impression because he’s dressed like a bum, unkempt and unwashed? He won’t stand a chance talking for even 10 seconds with a woman. -What about the opposite? Not looking good, but still making a good first impression? Even if he isn’t physically handsome, he still shows that he’s putting effort into improving what can be improved: he is clean, smell good, nice haircut.... well?
/r/seduction07/01/26 11:39 AM
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Why don’t you just simplify things and talk about balance, like the old Chinese concept of Yin and Yang? If you don’t, seduction becomes a never‑ending topic. Your examples are just as bad as being extreme on the opposite side. This is what the opposite looks like: - passive attraction - The opposite is being overly active, constantly going after it, and you can easily end up being labeled as "that guy who hits on every woman", is that a good thing? Debatable. - grandma checklist - The opposite …
/r/seduction07/01/26 10:59 AM
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Natural game assumes you’re already a social guy, and in that case there’s nothing to learn. Yes, there are guys who don’t need to learn anything because they’re naturally social and can improvise fast. I remember RSD Tyler saying to a woman: "potatoes, carrots, cabbage, onion, pepper" and when she looked at him confused, he said: "those are the veggies I use to make salad, do you like salad too?" See? If you’re good at improvisation, it doesn’t matter what you say, you’ll always find a way to m…
/r/seduction06/01/26 09:28 PM
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It’s a very good book to start with, but you need to pay attention to the details. It’s about beautiful women, not the regular women you see on the street every day. If they’re beautiful, they’ve already heard countless times that they’re hot or gorgeous, and they’re already used to getting attention. You need to keep this in mind while reading the book and understanding why the author talks about all kinds of seduction concepts. You wouldn’t ‘neg’ a regular woman, and you wouldn’t need to use p…
/r/seduction06/01/26 08:26 PM
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There are better ways now Can you give me an example? Not something related to technology that obviously didn’t exist 20 years ago but something related to daygame or nightgame.
/r/seduction06/01/26 08:15 PM
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PUA theory has advanced quite a lot since then. Exactly what? Can you give me 2–3 examples? Or at least one thing that’s actually advanced?
/r/seduction06/01/26 08:12 PM
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A few minutes ago I explained to someone how to create a context for starting a conversation with a person, because it’s not normal to just start talking to someone out of nowhere, there needs to be a common topic you can both talk about. I told him that it’s easy to create such a context in a bus station, for example. If you have a bottle/cup of drink in your hand you just need a simple eye contact with a girl which is the moment you need to lift your drink as if saying cheers + step toward her…
/r/seduction06/01/26 07:28 PM
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i unknowingly pick some character that's not me Honestly, that’s total BS. It’s a sign of knowing a little theory but not enough to use it. In this stage you need to read more, not dump everything. try to perform the best This is a problem because there is no need to be perfect in what you say or what you do, but this doesn’t mean you can be completely disconnected from reality. You still need to have basic social cues and see when the other person isn’t interested in your stories or isn’t inter…
/r/seduction06/01/26 07:24 PM
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A few years ago I read tons of theories, but I still couldn’t make a move. It took me a while to realize that all I really needed was a good context to start a conversation with a woman. It doesn’t work as I’ve seen on YT, since what they are doing there is a challenge to get views: while she eats/drink, at the gym, while she is with another person., while she is busy... all these things are not applicable in real life, unless you are completely disconnected from reality and you can’t read basic…
/r/seduction06/01/26 07:06 PM
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What you’re talking about is simply an issue people rarely mention, even though it’s actually the foundation of everything. You don’t apply "game" randomly and it’s not some kind of magic tool. - if a woman finds you attractive, you don’t need any ‘game.’ Anything you say or do works. Just show up in the right place and 90% of the job is already done, effortlessly. - if she finds you unattractive, there’s no technique that will change her mind. "Game" won’t help, "game" is not a magic to change …
/r/seduction06/01/26 04:56 PM
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confusing her with your words Oh yes, because who the hell doesn’t dream of someone you can’t rely on when there’s a problem, you know, the type who says one thing and then does the complete opposite. See the irony?
/r/seduction06/01/26 10:31 AM
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"be HONEST with your intentions" - When you say to a woman ‘let’s go to my place and watch a movie,’ it should literally mean watching a movie.... right? "Talk to every woman and person you can. " - Why so much pressure? Why does it need to be made harder than it already is? "Chat up that gorgeous woman next to you! " - This is exactly like telling a guy who has never lifted a dumbbell in his life to just grab a 100‑kg weight and lift it. "Start doing masculine activities, like sports or fightin…
/r/seduction06/01/26 12:26 AM
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not having game at all, Yes, if the girl already finds you attractive, it will work no matter what you say, you can say whatever you want. If the girl doesn't find you attractive, no matter what you do or what you say, you won't change her mind. The good thing is that most of the girls are NEUTRAL toward you, they don't find you attractive, but they aren't repulsed by you either, is a normal human behavior, they are polite and friendly. This is when you need to use 'game' to increase the attract…
/r/seduction06/01/26 12:05 AM
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Try https://www.gameglobal.net/groups/ it’s free, and they’re organized on Facebook and Telegram, maybe you’ll get lucky and find someone in your city. They won’t be PUAs, they’ll just be guys with the same goal as you. You help each other out, you’re a wingman for someone, and then the role gets reversed.
/r/seduction05/01/26 10:13 AM
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It depends on what you’re looking for. If you want a long‑term partner, that’s not really my area, relationships and marriage are a whole different world but if you’re looking for a hook up, then things change. First of all, she’s a stranger. She has no way of knowing whether you have money or not and that’s your advantage. She only sees your behavior: you’re upbeat, funny, playful, clean, well‑dressed… and she’ll automatically assume you also have money because of the HALO effect. In the first …
/r/seduction04/01/26 08:21 PM
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Elaborate. I have no idea how this is possible unless you never leave your house.
/r/seduction04/01/26 07:02 PM
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I'm sure that u/TonyDCoaching from Absoluteability is the right person for you (sometimes he is active on this sub). He’s not an overnight ‘guru’ here is a video of him 10 years ago VIDEO and he even offers online coaching VIDEO No affiliation here, but I’ve done enough reading to know who’s the real deal and who’s not.
/r/seduction04/01/26 09:11 AM
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You said: ‘I couldn’t talk to people, in groups I always waited for the perfect moment to talk.’ That’s the real sticking point, not money, not status. You’re not struggling socially because you’re broke, but because you don’t have real-life experiences to talk about, and not even the imagination to create funny stories around them. I know guys who work factory jobs, no money, no social status, but when they go out on weekends they’re extremely sociable. I always say to have ready 3-4 funny stor…
/r/seduction03/01/26 02:36 PM
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That’s exactly how you spot a marketer. He keeps selling the same program again and again with a tiny tweak, then gives it a brand‑new name instead of just calling it version 1, 2, 3 or appendix 1, 2, 3. But sure… totally not an upscale attempt, right.
/r/seduction03/01/26 09:55 AM
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There are all kinds of people with different personalities. You have no idea what their life is like or why they’re shy, so don’t judge them. Maybe you're a social guy who knows what to say after 'Hi, how are you?', but for others that moment is a nightmare. For someone who isn’t naturally social, this can be extremely difficult, because they know that 'Hi, how are you?' is only the opener. They have to improvise something in the very next second, and that’s where things stop being easy. Of cour…
/r/seduction02/01/26 03:50 PM
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I would just do that at the first glance. Not everyone is James Bond. All those seduction concepts/methods/techniques/tricks were created for guys like OP, to make things easier. I don’t see any problem with leaving a note, even if the context is a bit lame, it’s still better than doing nothing, and there’s nothing wrong with choosing the option that feels easier for him.… the problem only appears if he gets stuck after giving the note. The lady won’t say or even think "aha, he gave me a note, I…
/r/seduction02/01/26 09:22 AM
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Create a context for the conversation, it makes everything 100× easier. When there’s a mutual topic, you don’t need much courage.... evverything goes naturally. I keep a leather bracelet in my pocket, and when I see a woman I want to talk to, I pretend I can’t tie the knot on my right wrist with my left hand so I ask her help. While she’s tying the knot, I have time for a TRANSITION, I tell her something like: "You’re really good at tying knots, you have long fingers… you look like you work in c…
/r/seduction01/01/26 04:11 PM
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She really seems to decide before the opener on a cold approach Wrong as hell. I bet you’ve heard plenty of women say ‘at first I didn’t like him, but now we’re together.’ People are complex human beings, they don’t think in binary, like 1 and 0, or black and white, or attractive and unatractive. Most women begin in a neutral state, they are friendly, nice, and polite, like any normal person. As a man, you need her attention because you need time to run your game. Those first 10 seconds can buy …
/r/seduction01/01/26 11:02 AM
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men are using their credit card to buy things on infields …and this isn’t staged or anything, right?
/r/seduction01/01/26 10:33 AM
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There are all kinds of strange ideas in seduction, and ‘building tension’ is one of those vague concepts you don’t need to worry about. Focus on the actual act of flirting. If things go well, there will naturally come a moment when you just know it’s time to make things a bit more spicy. But the other person has to participate, without that there’s no flirting, no tension, nothing.
/r/seduction31/12/25 10:50 AM
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James Bond method - look at a woman and she melts.
/r/seduction31/12/25 10:40 AM
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Probably not. It’s too boring.
/r/seduction30/12/25 07:20 PM
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Are you trying to find a woman who will like you? Good luck approaching industrial‑scale numbers of women, maybe 1000 - 2000 - 3000 before you finally meet someone. As I said in my previous post, if you can get the undecided women to turn toward you, everything becomes much easier. Seduction concepts/methods/techniques were created for that phase, when women are neutral (undecided) not for when they’re already attracted to you, and definitely not as some magic tool to change a woman’s mind.
/r/seduction30/12/25 10:14 AM
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Do you know that feeling when you know all the theory, but something inside still stops you from using it?
/r/seduction29/12/25 08:32 PM
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It really depends on what you’re looking for. Maybe you just need some encouragement, that’s something you can get from a friend, you hype each other up. Maybe you need advice on grooming, fashion, lifestyle… you can easily find that on YouTube or TikTok. But if you want the practical stuff, what to say, how to create a conversation topic with anyone, how to keep a discussion going, a dating coach can teach you those things in just a few hours. Otherwise, it can take you months to figure them ou…
/r/seduction29/12/25 08:10 PM
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Your way of thinking is very simplistic, and that’s exactly why it’s wrong. Human nature is far more complex than a binary 1 or 0, or black and white. A woman won’t just find you attractive or unattractive… in fact, most of the time they’re in a NEUTRAL state (they don’t find you attractive, but they’re not repulsed by you either), they’ll be polite, friendly and social, and when that happens, the outcome depends entirely on you. The attraction can fade completely, or you can amplify it using al…
/r/seduction29/12/25 07:50 PM
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You don’t need to be James Bond with the strong eye contact, the smirk, deep voice, winking, the dramatic pauses… it’s enough to start things properly, and a conversation with a woman becomes very easy. Why do you think every decent seduction book has an entire chapter dedicated to openers? Because what you say doesn’t matter? On the contrary! It matters a hell of a lot, especially if you’re not a naturally social person. In that case, you take an opener exactly as shown there, and once you get …
/r/seduction27/12/25 06:19 PM
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If you’re already saying hi to each other, next time just ask her whether she’s in a hurry or not, because you want to grab a coffee/juice and you don’t feel like drinking alone. I don’t see anything simpler than that.
/r/seduction26/12/25 04:14 PM
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Got it now. Then it’s perfect 👍
/r/seduction26/12/25 01:50 PM
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This means that, for you, there has to be a person specially made to be yours. The more requirements you have, the harder it becomes… I don’t know you, but I’m 99% sure that the person you’re looking for hasn’t appeared in your life yet, and probably never will.
/r/seduction26/12/25 01:44 PM
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Saying ‘just talk to them’ as u/ThatDarnSmell said, is like telling a random guy to walk into a gym, grab a 100‑kg weight, and lift it… "it’s easy, bro", But can you actually do it? Yes, if you already have big muscles, you’d lift it effortlessly. But what if you’re not that strong yet and you have to build each muscle from scratch? Now is not that easy. It’s exactly the same in seduction. It all depends on your social skills. If you’re naturally a sociable person, then seduction becomes very ea…
/r/seduction26/12/25 11:45 AM
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I can call it daygame, even though I’ve been approaching women during my everyday activities, not by going out specifically with the intention of hitting on women.... but they are everywhere.
/r/seduction25/12/25 10:56 PM
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Three practical steps: - The easiest way is to learn all kinds of funny stories and drop them into the conversation. For example: "By the way, that reminds me of… [insert a funny story]." - Learn gambits/routines that help you when you notice an awkward moment of silence: "I see you’re wearing a ring on your index finger. Do you know what that says about you? … I read on internet that ...... [say whatever you want about her]"..... From here you transition into talking about astrology… and once y…
/r/seduction25/12/25 10:20 PM
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Unfortunately, all I can say about him now is RIP.
/r/seduction25/12/25 10:03 PM
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Indirect is the way to play this game 90% of the time. Only in very rare cases does it make sense to use a direct opener, and maybe in 1% of situations the super‑direct method, as Allan Roger Currie used to do.
/r/seduction25/12/25 09:38 PM
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It’s like the classic question of a half‑full cup: is it almost full or almost empty? Either interpretation is valid. However, the way I see it, the most accurate approach is a mix of everything in small doses. Even push‑pull or a neg are just ways to balance things out when you’ve given her too many compliments… and if you’ve thrown a neg, you balance it out with a qualify or a compliment. See? It’s a kind of yin and yang, a little bit of everything, no special rules, nothing, just a mix of eve…
/r/seduction25/12/25 09:13 PM
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be expressive That’s how you confuse the OP even more, since u/Pantherist said that a poker face is the basic rule. So which one is it?
/r/seduction25/12/25 08:36 PM
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The point is that no extreme is ever good… there has to be balance in everything. For example: being all the time outcome-indifferent and poker-faced is exactly as bad as being all the time emotionally reactive and visibly affected by the outcome.
/r/seduction25/12/25 08:29 PM
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Neil Strauss said that everything that was funny in seventh grade is still funny as an adult, tapping her on the shoulder and ducking, bumping into her while walking… all those silly things create space for escalation. There are a lot of gambits and social jokes for different levels of interaction, they’re specifically created for moments like these. Learning them on your own would take years, it’s much easier to read about them once and instantly know what to do....
/r/seduction25/12/25 01:05 PM
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Something like this: 50 - approahes 25 - phone numbers 12 - flakes 6 - go on a date 3 - on a second date 1-2 sex
/r/seduction25/12/25 10:17 AM
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Most of you are following advice that hasn't been updated since 2015. What are you talking about, mate? There’s nothing new under the sun, absolutely nothing. The only thing that’s new is the marketers. Right now they’re more aggressive, attacking people easily through a YouTube or TikTok post. They’ve got big mouths… but everything they say is the same stuff that was being discussed back in the 1970s. Search on Google for the book ‘How to Pick Up Girls’ by Eric Weber, it was written in 1970, an…
/r/seduction24/12/25 06:43 PM
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approaching every girl I find attractive. As a joke it sounds good, but in reality it’s a bad thing to do. Play the numbers game. Yes, it’s a numbers game, but you don't need to be an approach-machine. I'm short 5'5 No problem! Do whatever is easiest for you. Filter for girls who are your height or shorter, it makes no sense to challenge yourself by approaching someone taller than you. You’re not doing this for a YT/TikTok show, you’re doing it for yourself, not to prove how brave, bold, or conf…
/r/seduction24/12/25 12:36 PM
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I have approached 500-750 women this year That number is ridiculous, mate. Don’t you have a life? I know everyone says it’s a numbers game, but let’s be serious, we’re not talking about industrial‑scale numbers here. We’re humans, not approach machines. For a ONS, it’s important to test her compliance level + at the same time, look for signs that she enjoys talking to you. If you get positive reactions, keep escalating as far as it’s possible. You don’t have your own place? No problem, there are…
/r/seduction24/12/25 11:57 AM
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If you dig into the details, you’ll reach the same conclusion I did. Go on, try it let’s see what you come up with. I give you a 🍺 for the effort.
/r/seduction23/12/25 09:48 PM
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There are all kinds of exercises designed to eliminate approach anxiety. If you no longer have AA, it makes no sense to take this advice to an extreme because from this stage you are no longer cool, but you project the opposite. You think you indirectly told her something, but that’s debatable. And if you apply Murphy’s Law, "anything that can go wrong will go wrong", so you most likely actually told her: "I’m a weirdo and I’m proud."
/r/seduction23/12/25 09:37 PM
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it really doesnt fucking matter what you say, but how you say it and how you come across. This is an incomplete sentence. It’s only correct if the guy is already social and can improvise quickly, otherwise, he will unnecessarily put himself in a worse position, making everything more difficult than it already is. I remember RSD Tyler saying to a woman, “onion, carrots, potatoes....” and when she looked at him confused, he said, “these are the veggies I like to use to make a salad. Do you like sa…
/r/seduction23/12/25 09:30 PM
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I don’t think there’s a single PUA in the world who would say ‘looks don’t matter’ but not everyone is naturally (or surgically) handsome, and the second category of guys has to put in more work to achieve the same success as a good‑looking guy. Phil Heitlinger and James Tusk talk about this aspect HERE All seduction methods and concepts were created for the second category of guys, they’re the ones who actually need them but again there are different cases. - if the girl finds you attractive, y…
/r/seduction22/12/25 04:39 PM
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Clavicular is a weirdo here’s a VIDEO about him. This is the influencer you’re listening to.
/r/seduction22/12/25 04:06 PM
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Actually, back in 1970 there was a book called How to Pick Up Girls by Eric Weber. It already included all kinds of openers direct, indirect, situational, observational. The author even said that some women do like when a man has a bold, confident attitude while others don’t… and that was in 1970. So… the direct method isn’t anything new under the sun. In fact, nothing is new under the sun , just new "teachers" and guys with big mouths.
/r/seduction21/12/25 11:10 AM
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being a fun, charismatic guy isn't arbitrary. You can't just do it. Why not? Women do it every day, you never really know if they actually have a headache or not. Salesmen present themselves as enthusiastic to sell you their products. Any actor becomes charismatic the moment the camera starts rolling. When you give someone a gift, even if they don’t like it, they can act as if it’s exactly what they wanted. There are plenty of examples like this.... There's psychological blocks of 'perceived sta…
/r/seduction21/12/25 10:24 AM
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Maybe he is an experienced PUA, but he acts like he’s not. He mixes a bunch of concepts together, like "I say a lot of things in a short time and now you pick whatever you like". He gives compliments too fast, qualifies too fast, then disqualifies with no logic. He does DHV way too late, even though DHV is supposed to be at the beginning. He talks about flirting, but flirting only makes sense if you’re getting good reactions, otherwise there’s no point.... This is about probabilities, nothing gu…
/r/seduction20/12/25 10:02 AM
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i wanna know about signs of interest , body language This is the ideal scenario, however, most of the time you won’t see any sign of interest. When it comes to body language, it’s the same you can’t notice too many things. Only in very rare cases, when you’re in a closed space like a bar, restaurant, event, you might see open body language.... but most of the time no way. who to approach, who to not approach, The ideal scenario is that the women you see give you IOI signs, as I mentioned above. …
/r/seduction19/12/25 01:50 PM
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There are all kinds of exercises to beat approach anxiety, and the person you approach doesn’t necessarily have to be close to your age. There’s also theory, things you can learn in just a few hours (as I mentioned in Week 0 and Week 3). You learn those indoors, and after a few hours you try them out IRL. Normally, it doesn’t take that many days, but when I look at the business side, that’s not my problem… everyone does as they wish.
/r/seduction19/12/25 12:23 AM
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From my point of view, she was polite, but you unnecesarry changed your attitude. Most of the time, if a girl likes you even a little, she becomes very sensitive, she analyzes every text you send, or don’t send. Psychological texting games, what I like to call the "texting game", are played BEFORE dating, when nothing is certain. But once the date is set, you need to give her special attention, she needs to feel she’s getting more attention from you than before (you did the opposite - you played…
/r/seduction18/12/25 11:50 PM
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He played unnecessary games with a girl who probably said she liked the date just to be polite. OP ignored a simple text he should have replied to, but for reasons only he knows, he waited until the next morning. Once the next date was set, he didn’t care much anymore. No wonder she thought, ‘WTF?’ She wanted a reaction she never got, so of course she lost interest.
/r/seduction18/12/25 11:35 PM
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From my point of view, she acted mature, she was nice and polite, but you acted childish. You even said, ‘Wondering if she and I went on the same date, I wrote it off and didn’t reply,’ and then, ‘I backed off on texting her as much.’ Yet you’re still wondering why she changed her mind. Isn’t it obvious?
/r/seduction18/12/25 11:07 PM
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I’ve noticed that the fear of seeming needy has become a boogeyman on this sub, but in fact it’s perfectly normal. If you don’t give her special attention, she’ll notice, and do you think that’s good? I wouldn’t bet on it. Just avoid being too needy, because that’s not fine. Exactly like you can’t always be serious or always be funny, there must be balance in everything, and then nothing bad will happen.
/r/seduction18/12/25 08:50 PM
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Push-pull is just one concept used when talking to a woman to avoid monotony in a conversation. During the interaction, you should use it at most twice, otherwise, it can come across as creepy. The trick is to apply push-pull only if she is already "hooked" otherwise it makes no sense. Sometimes, if there is strong eye contact, you can even use push-pull as an opener. Remember, push-pull won’t work miracles, it might give you only 1-2 minutes of playful talk, but after that you need something el…
/r/seduction18/12/25 05:04 PM
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You have problems with escalation, it is explained in Mystery's book "How To Get Beautiful Women Into Bed", it is about the stages S1, S2, S3 just read what it is about, how to escalate things and that's all - it makes no sense to copy and paste it's content here...
/r/seduction18/12/25 03:29 PM
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It’s pretty obvious when she’s not into talking with you: no eye contact, short replies, zero curiosity, no reaction to your jokes. It’s also said that the tips of her shoes won’t point toward you, or her body will be slightly turned to the side as if she wants to leave. Spotting interest vs. just politeness is another chapter. If she’s into you, she’ll glance your way, pay attention, ask questions, laugh at your remarks (it is the opposite as it was previous).... If you see those signs you can …
/r/seduction18/12/25 10:08 AM
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Yes if you are James Bond, yes... you can wink/smile..... IRL is diferent.
/r/seduction18/12/25 09:52 AM
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You’re putting yourself under pointless pressure. In short, it’s disrespectful to interrupt her workout. Waiting until she finishes and then telling her something unrelated to the exercise doesn’t look good, it’s a clear sign you’ve been watching her until she’s done. Talking to her right as she finishes isn’t good either especially if she’s sweaty, tired, and focused, you break her rhythm. Inside the gym? No. Leave that to YouTube/Instagram creators, it’s their challenge. They need “challenging…
/r/seduction18/12/25 09:20 AM
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Sometimes it’s better to learn the opposite: notice the signs when she’s not comfortable talking to you (or being near you). Those signs are easier to spot, because IOIs are often subtle and can be confusing. for example you are at an girls house, how to pick up on taking actions or not. For these reasons "compliance level tests" exist: you push things forward if the responses are positive, or back off if you see that what you’re doing is too much. It’s a rule that says you should take two steps…
/r/seduction18/12/25 09:01 AM
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It doesn’t look good when simple, short things are stretched out under the pretext of “lasting results.” Instead of simplifying, they’re made to look complicated. A beginner would be like: “Whoa, 30 days? Must be super complex and difficult.... ” But you know the truth. With this excuse of “lasting results,” I saw a guy on this sub (forgot his name - it is an asian guy) doing “dating coaching” for a whole year! (12 months). The point is, these things can be learned much faster, in this case, 10x…
/r/seduction18/12/25 08:45 AM
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Why not 3 days? Do 2–4 hours each day, three days in a row, and you’re done. Week 0 – learn the theory in under 1 hour. Weeks 1–2 – in most of the cases it takes 2–3 days (if the guys aren’t free for long in a day and only have a few minutes, then it will take 10–14 days.) Week 3 – social skills: 1–2 hours. “Natural charisma”? Total BS. You spend days training it and still call it “natural”? Come on, it’s not natural. 30 days is too long, but good luck.
/r/seduction18/12/25 08:05 AM
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About 6–7 years ago I was just like you. It’s a fight with your ego, and depending on how big your ego is, it might take a week (or even longer). There are all kinds of small exercises you need to do to overcome the attitude you have. It’s not hard, but it takes a few days. If you drop your wallet in front of her, that doesn’t mean she’ll stop talking to you. Sure, it’s tough for a ‘cool guy’ to make such a mistake, but in fact that’s exactly how you break down the ego that’s holding you back. K…
/r/seduction17/12/25 06:39 PM
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Isn't it ridiculous to change your whole life just to be able to say 'hi' to a girl?
/r/seduction16/12/25 04:16 PM
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Debatable. I have no idea if it is as you said since there are no statistics, only assumptions. Even if a statistic existed, it wouldn't be 100% but a percentage of them, as is everything in this life. You can get a GF without being a mafia boss or a bad boy, as you see in the movies.
/r/seduction16/12/25 03:48 PM
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Where did this idea of masculinity come from? We're in the 21st century, you don't need to fight dinosaurs or be some war hero anymore. With the right attitude + grooming + "game" you can be even a jobless guy but still have gf.
/r/seduction16/12/25 03:10 PM
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You have read a book written from the perspective that you already possess social skills and that the girl is already attracted to you. For this reason, you can say and do whatever you want. There is no need to learn anything: no seduction concepts, no rules to increase your chances, no gambits/routines, no openers nothing at all. What if if you don't posses all those attractive traits? Will the girl help you in the conversation if she is in a neutral state toward you? How will you know how to f…
/r/seduction16/12/25 11:34 AM
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I'm 47, and I wouldn't say it's harder, but I've noticed that sometimes I just don't care about going out. It could be Friday evening, yet I prefer to stay home doing something else. I guess the older I get, the more frequent these 'I don't care' days will become. I can't say it's harder because in the last 5-6 years, I have become more sociable, and I realized that this small change alone was huge. I saw with my own eyes that 90% of the women I talk to are all friendly, nice, and polite. If I f…
/r/seduction16/12/25 09:47 AM
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I have no idea what to say, like zero idea apart from ‘hi’. You need to create a context to talk, otherwise it looks creepy. For this reason, there are a few routines/gambits that help you generate a topic to talk about out of thin air. - if you are a social person with good social skills, you won’t need routines/gambits. But from the way your post looks, you’re not that strong in this area, so you fall into the next category. - if your social skills are below average, then it is almost impossib…
/r/seduction15/12/25 10:06 PM
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Daygame Mastery by Nick Krauser is an excellent resource, but it’s really difficult to deal with the advice ‘don’t try to fill in the silences,’ especially at the beginning. In the early stages it’s almost impossible not to worry about a moment of silence. Once she’s hooked, though, silence is no longer a problem.
/r/seduction14/12/25 09:00 PM
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I also notice that when topics run out, my presence collapses. The interaction dies. There’s no momentum carrying things forward. …you said you’re not looking for routines/gambits specifically designed for that exact moment. Well… good luck reinventing the wheel... Lack of experience - especially the pressure that is on you talking with someone the same age like you internal states... - I have no idea, this must be something psychological , you should ask a physician. Anyway, when it comes to si…
/r/seduction14/12/25 08:56 PM
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how to be you and still be attractive? I doubt this is possible. It is much better if you adapt and make small changes. It’s just like going to the market and trying to sell only apples, you’ll have few customers, only those who need apples, and you’ll make little money. But if, along with apples, you also add other fruits, it becomes much easier to find customers, and you’ll make more money. Imagine a person who is 100% himself, with no filter. He says everything he thinks, even if it’s rude or…
/r/seduction14/12/25 05:44 PM
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For these reasons you said, the concept of DHV does exist. If you read about it in the right way, you will understand how DHV works wonders. I found a guy Ryan Jaunzenmis, he explains DHV very good, easy to understand HERE is a video of him explaining DHV, The idea is that you need to play this game right now with the cards you have in your hand. It’s not like: ‘I don’t have six-pack abs, I need to go to the gym for 1–2 years and then I will approach girls…", It is what it is. Having a healthy l…
/r/seduction14/12/25 12:30 PM
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We are talking about two types of women. One of them is the cheap women (they are 'walking aids') and another type of women who don't mess with any random guy. The methods you are using on the first category won't work on the second. Some guys treat everyone in the same way, which is clearly a big mistake, and they don't even realize what they are doing. There is no problem if you are only looking for women who belong to the first category, but you will have huge problems if you expect to talk t…
/r/seduction13/12/25 08:09 PM
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I stopped to be someone I wasn't and started to be myself. Who said that you need to be someone else? What have you read? Every book about seduction in this world will tell you to be positive, social, playful, optimistic, and full of life. If you are not like that, your chances of being an approachable guy are small. So, what traits do you have now if you stop trying to be what every book about seduction tells you to be?
/r/seduction12/12/25 07:18 PM
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This is about psychology and human behaviour, there’s nothing new under the sun. First, you tell her about something you need to do quickly (the easiest is pretending you forgot something) and watch her reaction. Sometimes she’ll say, 'Okay, no problem, I’ll go with you.' Other times she’ll laugh, and you can clearly see she doesn’t trust you. This is stage one: testing her level of compliance- this is mandatory, you can’t skip this. If the first step doesn’t work, it means that the girl doesn’t…
/r/seduction12/12/25 05:51 PM
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After you gave me that example, 'I want to fuck, I should just tell her' I realized the kind of environment you’re talking about and the cultural level of those girls… In the league I play in, people don’t talk like that, certain things are not said directly. That’s the reason why "plausible deniability" exists: it’s about morality, and it helps them move past the moment more easily. The kind of women I prefer have a certain social status, and they don’t want everyone in their group of friends t…
/r/seduction12/12/25 05:23 PM
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My coach gave me a list of books, podcasts, and talks to study. With all due respect, but your coach is a clown…
/r/seduction12/12/25 04:26 PM
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You seem confused… I don’t support inner game. My success came from practical outer game: words, humor, lines, gambits/routines... not from mindset.
/r/seduction12/12/25 03:58 PM
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Why should I ask if she feels like coming to my home and wait on her mood, when I can do certain things that make the chances of success much higher? It’s not 100% certain, but the chances of her saying 'yes' are higher and that’s what I want. How can I do that? By being clever or manipulative, as many guys would say. Hey, as long as we’re here, would you like a drink? That’s not how it works. In short, it’s about two stages. The first time she comes, we leave after a minute, it’s just a simple,…
/r/seduction12/12/25 03:49 PM
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when you're on a date and you sense that she is down You said the magic words: 'if you sense that she is down.' but what if you get mixed signals and you’re not sure what’s happening (as it is in most of the cases)? Would you risk it with a direct question? Not in a million years, because you could ruin everything you’ve built so far. Even if you get positive signals, you still can’t risk it. It’s much better to give her a hint and let her make the choice. Being indirect is not about trying to c…
/r/seduction12/12/25 02:34 PM
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While other guys make it unnecessarily complicated, you solved the problem simply, actually it all comes down to making a good first impression + having social skills. I asked OP 'how' because I was expecting a long and complex reply, while in reality as you said it’s very simple....
/r/seduction12/12/25 10:47 AM
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We are human beings, it’s perfectly normal to feel insecure. You don’t need to be a super alpha Chad or a James Bond equivalent. If you look closely, both Chad and James Bond are fictional characters, they don’t exist in reality.... Direct works sometimes, but indirect works most of the time and the chances of success are much higher and the risk is minimal.. Start light, read the social cues, and adjust. It’s easy, and even if something goes wrong, neither you nor the woman will feel bad. It’s …
/r/seduction12/12/25 10:33 AM
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In seduction, besides the basics that help you make a good first impression (grooming + clothes that display status and high value) the focus is on social skills. It’s that simple, but I asked OP what ideas he has because he makes things much more complicated than they should be. They say that in 10 seconds you can earn one minute. This means that if you make a good first impression, you already have a very high chance that a woman will stop and listen to you for 30 seconds. Then, if you continu…
/r/seduction12/12/25 01:37 AM
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Well… at 47, I have another experience: an easy woman remains easy. Of course, sometimes she will act tough, but she is still the woman who went into a toilet with a man after 10 minutes of talking.
/r/seduction12/12/25 01:11 AM
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"Inner discipline" is a philosophy you can talk about endlessly, because you can always assume the other person has some traits that aren’t good. It’s a trap with ‘inner game’ + self help becuase it looks like you are never good enough. Just like you gave me a lot of advice, you can give me another set, then another… it never ends. Nobody tells you what to do, they only gives general self‑help ideas. Do you see how this works?Inner game takes years to improve (because there's always something to…
/r/seduction12/12/25 01:03 AM
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Any decent woman in this world won’t go into a toilet with a man after just 10 minutes of talking. If she’s easy, yes that might happen. Being sexually attracted to someone within a few minutes = a cheap woman. If it happens after a longer conversation, that’s perfectly normal.
/r/seduction12/12/25 12:46 AM
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Elaborate.
/r/seduction12/12/25 12:30 AM
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You know.... If I like to eat only hamburgers, smoke non‑stop, get drunk, and spend nights watching porn, that has nothing to do with seduction as long as I make sure to give a good first impression and I have the basic grooming + wear nice clothes. Why should I need to be fit and jacked? It makes no sense. How many chubby guys with no muscles have a girlfriend? I know plenty! Isn’t it ridiculous to change my entire lifestyle just to talk to a girl?
/r/seduction12/12/25 12:30 AM
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By Christopher Canwell? It’s a self‑help book, and it talks about real attraction. But I don’t care if the attraction is real because I’m not looking for a partner to marry. So what solutions do I have?
/r/seduction12/12/25 12:02 AM
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Don't make her feel cheap, give her a plausible deniability for going to your house. She went there because you wanted to drink tea for example, and if something happened… she can say it’s not her fault and she is not like that... make it easy for her. This is easy: "I need a tea… I have Chinese/ Arabic/ green/black tea at my place, it’s the best in the world. Come with me, it only takes 5 minutes." I use the excuse that I’m hungry and want to eat a pizza. I have one in my fridge, and since I li…
/r/seduction11/12/25 11:57 PM
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How? I need practical advice... do this, do that.... so... how?
/r/seduction11/12/25 11:40 PM
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There are cheap girls who will rush the process, but I don’t think you want to deal with that type of person. In a normal situation is not a quick process (at least not for me or anyone I know). It takes time, the ‘magic’ usually happens only on the second or third date. It happens slowly, step by step, not directly. In fact, it’s like taking two steps forward and one step back, you need to go slowly but surely… and this process takes time.
/r/seduction11/12/25 11:39 PM
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Work on your look, How? work on your self consciousness How? work on your confidence How?
/r/seduction11/12/25 11:30 PM
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There are only a few forums left, but even there trolls and so‑called ‘naturals’ have appeared. And when you see all the nonsense they talk about, it’s not even worth explaining how wrong they are. Alongside trolls and ‘naturals,’ just like in any field, this one also has its scammers. There are many clever marketers who sell you a dream, convincing you that you don’t need to learn any concepts, techniques, or routines but you need to work on your ‘inner game,’ so that at the right moment you wi…
/r/seduction11/12/25 11:09 PM
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You started from a wrong idea and built your comment on it, because you assumed people are only in two categories. In reality, there are three main situations: A woman finds you attractive - in this case anything you do will work (is the best case scenario and many books/products are build on this scenario: "it doesn't matter what you say", "be yourself" - this works ONLY if she finds you attractive, in real world maybe 10% of the cases) A woman does not find you attractive - in this case, nothi…
/r/seduction11/12/25 10:31 PM
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Yes, it’s an escalation, but I prefer to pretend she has an insect on her shoulder and flick it away with my finger. Then comes the playful part: "I just saved your life, it was about to eat you… blah blah blah." The tricky part is that before doing this, I place my left hand on her shoulder and say, "hold on, don’t move…" while with my right hand I make the flicking gesture.
/r/seduction11/12/25 12:12 PM
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You don’t just move from one location to another, it’s actually an escalation method. You need to plan the locations in advance, and the final one should be closer to your home. In your case, I would end the date at my place with a hot tea "it’s the best in town. I’m a black belt when it comes to making tea"
/r/seduction09/12/25 08:48 PM
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I’m not an actor, I don’t have a “horse thing” it’s related to cam girls.
/r/seduction09/12/25 08:35 PM
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It wasn’t a simple trip, as I said in my videos, it was actually related to my job in the adult industry, but I couldn’t tell them about that. Nothing happened with those ladies, after about 10 minutes we just exchanged Instagram accounts and that was it. However it was in the beginning of the war, you wouldn’t even have said there was a war. Only in Odessa did I hear the siren, and I even filmed with a spy cam exactly when the air raid started VIDEO. Everyone had to take shelter, so I did too… …
/r/seduction09/12/25 08:19 PM
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After the opener, it becomes even easier. Most of the time it only takes a few seconds, or maybe 2–3 minutes, to tell whether it’s worth continuing the conversation or not. It’s all in the way she behaves, her reactions, her eyes, her expressiveness.... I haven’t had 10 rejections in a row, not even at the beginning but it is also due that mayny times I walk away before I even get rejected, because I can tell it’s not worth continuing, especially when she avoids looking at me. Maybe I’m right, m…
/r/seduction09/12/25 07:12 PM
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best game in the world could stilll get you 100 rejections in a row if you are just not any of their type I don’t agree, because it’s almost like picking apples off the ground, the more trained your eye is, the easier it gets, and you don’t even bother with the rotten ones. In the simplest form of approach if you give a compliment to a woman you can sense whether it’s worth talking to her or not. For example, if you say “I like your shirt,” one woman might just say “thanks” without even looking …
/r/seduction09/12/25 06:39 PM
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This is the classical "bad boys vs nice guys" but the question is why do you assume that a "good" and "polite" guy isn’t funny, playful, friendly, and optimistic, someone who knows how to escalate and make her feel good with his full-of-life attitude?
/r/seduction09/12/25 04:09 PM
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Say sentences with double meanings. You can understand what I mean if you look at this VIDEO with Craig Ferguson and Mila Kunis. Also when she mentions words like "long, hard, stick, wet..." you can make jokes using those words. Something I like to do when talking to a woman is to arrange her collar or pretend to close her button while telling her "that distracts me, I even forget what you said a minute ago..."
/r/seduction09/12/25 03:54 PM
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Going to mall, grocery store or simply walking, but if you walk you need to have a purpose. Otherwise, you’re just wandering aimlessly around the city and that’s not good.
/r/seduction09/12/25 10:55 AM
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This concept is tricky because in the qualification stage, you pretend to discover traits or qualities about her that you genuinely appreciate, and because she possesses those traits, she passes your "filter" and you like her even more. It’s not a real evaluation you just give her the impression that she possesses the qualities you value, otherwise you wouldn’t be interested in her. The classic qualify "I don’t hang out with boring people. Tell me something cool about yourself" or “You’re cute… …
/r/seduction08/12/25 06:25 PM
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Any opener is meant to create a topic of conversation, and your example is a good one 👍 - You have a reply in any situation: if she believes it and reacts, you continue with, "Relax, you also believe in Santa Claus, right? bla bla bla." - If she doesn’t believe it, you still have a follow-up: "I thought you’d get scared and jump two meters… you’re not easy to scare… bla bla bla." When I see someone sitting on a bench, I usually say: "Excuse me, you haven’t seen the guy who painted this bench, ha…
/r/seduction08/12/25 01:46 PM
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If you read the history of RSD, you will see that they are marketers focused on upscale sales, and for this reason seduction becomes a never-ending process. It is ridiculous how something that should take only 2–3 hours is stretched into years of self-work by mentioning ‘inner game’ when you need to work on yourself, go to the gym, change your attitude/mentality, move to a different city, approach 1000 girls, learn from mistakes etc etc and without learning anything (no openers, no gambits, no s…
/r/seduction08/12/25 11:40 AM
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Right! If you have time, read the book "How to Pick Up Girls" by Erick Webber, written in 1970 you’ll be amazed. There you’ll find direct and confident opener examples. But if you read "Ars Amatoria" by Ovid, a book written 2000 years ago, you’ll discover that even back then men had the same problems as nowadays. You’ll find tips on how to groom yourself so you don’t smell like a goat, where to find women, how to start a conversation with them, a trick to look at a woman feet under their skirt a…
/r/seduction07/12/25 01:18 PM
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I saw that guy with the big mouth… there’s nothing new in his approaches. He still uses direct openers, indirect openers, situational/observational openers, start with push-pull, talk to both girls if they are two, even use classical Mystery sentences in some videos - that's a sign the guy read Mystery Method. There is no new method or new technique! He makes videos for YouTube, and it’s worth doing direct openers because that’s what viewers like, even though in real life it’s not efficient (at …
/r/seduction07/12/25 01:08 PM
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If pretending you forgot her name ends up as a nice joke or something funny, then it’s worth doing. Otherwise, it makes no sense but now it’s still funny when you only remember what you like. Sometimes, in closed spaces (events, bars, patios, malls), as a pre‑opener, I deliberately turn my back for a few seconds to my “target,” when I notice she is standing still. I only do this to create a context for talking to her. After 10–15 seconds, I turn 45 degrees toward her and say: “Oops, I had my bac…
/r/seduction07/12/25 10:52 AM
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Social skills + presence and behavior are connected, you can't separate them. For example: - person A who has high social skills: walks in, smiles, makes eye contact, and says “Hi, nice to meet you bla bla bla” - person B who has no social skills: walks in, smiles, make eye contact ... and..... his mind is blank: "what TF should I tell her?" When you learn social skills, at the same time you also learn body language, presence, and behavior, all these things are connected, you can’t separate them…
/r/seduction07/12/25 10:22 AM
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Can you share 2-3 better examples? Hopefully, it won’t be something from RSD or Models by Mark Manson.
/r/seduction07/12/25 10:11 AM
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Not everyone has the same level of social skills. 1 - if someone already has decent social skills, it’s very simple: just “go for it, bro”, there’s really nothing to explain. At this stage you don’t need to learn anything, no push‑pull, jokes, qualifying / disqualifying, frames… nothing. It all comes down to the classic phrase: “be yourself.” 2 - what if someone has weak social skills? How will such a guy learn to become social? They need guidance, specific things to do, things to say, and step‑…
/r/seduction07/12/25 10:04 AM
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It’s very superficial, just as you said. Actually, confidence comes from competence, and you become competent by repeating something many times (practice). But here’s where it gets tricky: what exactly should you practice? Approaching in low‑pressure settings, okay, noted. But how? The deeper you dig, the harder it becomes to explain. Exactly as when you learn MMA, it’s not just about “practicing to hit the other guy as hard as you can.” In reality, there are all kinds of methods, techniques, ti…
/r/seduction07/12/25 09:44 AM
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Not everyone has the same level of social skills. If you’re talking to someone who already has decent social skills, it’s very simple: just say “go for it, bro,” or give him a little push and he’s ready. In that case, there’s really nothing to explain. Take the example of RSD teachings or any “natural” teacher: they always assume the reader already has strong social skills. For that reason, you don’t need to learn anything, no push‑pull, jokes, qualifying / disqualifying, frames… nothing. It all…
/r/seduction07/12/25 09:14 AM
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Cold approach is going to have a low success rate now matter how you go about it. The IOI method you mentioned is preferable, but it rarely works because women are very discreet. In extremely rare cases you might actually figure out that a woman wants to be approached. The solution is still a kind of IOI, but used in a smart way: you approach innocently and indirectly, and then you have a few seconds to estimate whether it’s worth continuing or not. That’s the real trick. The more experience you…
/r/seduction06/12/25 07:51 PM
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How do you know that the real YOU is pleasant? How do you know that being exactly as you are will actually attract women?
/r/seduction05/12/25 10:10 PM
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It is a form of manipulation. The simplest example is: "Come to my place to watch a movie".
/r/seduction05/12/25 09:53 PM
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That’s how you create your own bubble, but when you step outside among other people, reality will hit you.
/r/seduction05/12/25 06:44 PM
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There are two easy and known solutions: 1 - not be always available. This can be achieved if you have a hobby, the simplest one is going to the gym, for example, or doing any similar activity periodically: play footbal, jogging, take a walk in town, etc 2 -Insert jokes and light challenges into your conversation, and keep a cocky‑funny attitude. This includes the classical neggs and push‑pulls. is there a specific mindset you need to train yourself Don’t bother with mindset, it’s a chapter that …
/r/seduction05/12/25 04:55 PM
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Nope. In its original form, it doesn’t set goals you can’t achieve. DHV doesn’t have to take years, it can take just a few hours from start to finish. It starts in only a few minutes with the basics: clean, well‑fitted clothes, good hygiene, a decent haircut etc - the basic known things. Those small details shape the first impression. If you look like a bum, the chances of a woman stopping to talk to you are almost zero. You need something that makes her pause and think, "this guy is not a begga…
/r/seduction05/12/25 09:18 AM
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And does your strategy work? I doubt it! Girls are discreet in very few cases will they let you know they like you at some level. Waiting for signals is not okay. If you are a social guy, follow the old ‘3-second rule’, it’s one of the best methods I know. Just say whatever you want and let everything flow. However, if you lack social skills, things get harder, and depending on your level, it can be really low. In that case, there is still a solution but you need to learn what to do and what to …
/r/seduction04/12/25 09:11 PM
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super happy with my progress. That's not progress. I see things differently. Instead of hunting, you embrace the feminine posture of being hunted, having made no effort to approach. You are exactly like a flower that is colorful and smells good to attract the bees. I expected you to make an effort to approach, rather than simply wait to be approached.
/r/seduction04/12/25 06:48 PM
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DHV has always existed and it will not disappear as long as humans exist on Earth. Society makes that judgment.... is perfectly normal. You don’t need a master’s degree to recognize whether someone is perceived as high or low value at a glance. Since you are fighting against something beyond your control, there is no way to win, but you can adapt yourself.
/r/seduction04/12/25 04:45 PM
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💩
/r/seduction03/12/25 10:08 AM
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Usually three days in a bootcamp just to gain the courage to talk to a girl, real connection? soul mate? That’s about luck. It might happen on the very first try, or it might never happen at all.
/r/seduction03/12/25 09:40 AM
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Someone only needs a few small pieces of advice, how to dress well, smell good, and so on, plus maybe just a handful of ideas for things to say. It’s always better to be prepared with something rather than trying to figure out what to say on the spot. Tht's all, simple and easy! With the entire self-help and self-improvement, you talk exactly like a salesman. Instead of giving direct advice like “do this, do that,” you go into endless development that you know very well may take ages. I remember…
/r/seduction03/12/25 09:15 AM
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Instead of the generic and vague sentence “just have a normal conversation,” it is much better to see some actual examples.
/r/seduction02/12/25 11:15 PM
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Did you figure out all these concepts on your own, without reading about them? “Don’t put women on a pedestal,” the 3-second rule, kino, openers, push-pull, leading and pacing, qualify/disqualify, frames etc etc?
/r/seduction01/12/25 11:54 AM
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The content of what you’re saying is usually irrelevant The idea that it doesn’t matter what you say is very superficial. You can do that with your friends, but not with people you barely know. You don’t have to be a genius to realize that you can come across as disconnected from reality if you say things that have no connection to anything, no mutual subject, nothing.... There are all kinds of transitions to make things look connected: “By the way, did I tell you about… bla bla bla” or “Look at…
/r/seduction01/12/25 10:51 AM
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Theoretically yes. This is the modern way of peacocking, it is a way to grab attention.
/r/seduction30/11/25 10:40 AM
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/r/seduction29/11/25 09:39 PM
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He’s a normal human being, not James Bond.
/r/seduction29/11/25 09:29 PM
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conversation was getting flirty, then it just stops. It won't happen because you follow a plan... when "X happens , go to Y" so in this case if the conversation was flirty, you know that you need to escalate, so it won't stop. What do you actually say to keep things moving toward Anything works as long as you keep a playful tone, but as escalation you become more touchy (kino). And if you see that things are going well, you use a gambit that brings you closer to her. I always freeze up and end u…
/r/seduction29/11/25 09:23 PM
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In daygame I open, vibe, set a date and get the number. I also like shortcuts but what you said simply makes no sense. There is no ‘vibe’ without the other person. To vibe, you need to give her a reason to talk. But how can you give her that reason straight from the opener without going through the intermediary stage? It is always opener "Hi" + something to make her talk (that's not VIBE but is "staking"). If she only answers 2-3 questions, that’s not vibing. If she’s only being polite by answer…
/r/seduction29/11/25 04:14 PM
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pretty much all of the coaches are frauds Why? His infields are amongst the worst i've seen. Debatable. It depends a lot on the reaction you get from the woman. If the woman isn’t talkative, the entire conversation depends on you. You’re the one who has to keep it going by creating topics out of nowhere. It’s not easy. You will force a joke the woman won't find it funny, you will need to switch to something else and again you will receive two words replies.... is not your fault. is a system of h…
/r/seduction29/11/25 03:13 PM
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How many infield videos with David Meessen have you seen? Do you like his style? There are a lot of videos on YouTube, do you see him actually using the things he talks about in those videos? Most of the time, the more rules someone has the more 💩 eats.
/r/seduction29/11/25 02:39 PM
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that nobody [ ..... ] can MAKE a girl attracted Take pop corn and read (is a long comment). Seduction is not about miraculously turning a girl who doesn’t find you attractive into someone who suddenly desires you, that simply doesn’t happen. The idea is that, most of the time, the other person is neutral (she neither rejects you nor is overly excited to meet you). This is the moment when the concepts/techniques/methods of seduction can be applied: to present yourself as approachable, optimistic,…
/r/seduction29/11/25 01:55 PM
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If you’re good at social skills, you’re right what you say doesn’t really matter. But if your social skills are weak, it’s not that easy. You can make things either easier or more difficult. I remember RSD Tyler approaching a woman and saying: “onion, potatoes, carrots, cabbage.” When she looked at him confused, he said: “those are the veggies I use to make a salad, do you like onion in salad?” As you can see, that guy has strong social skills, he can turn any silly line into something playful. …
/r/seduction29/11/25 12:56 PM
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stop watching pick up artist videos online lol There’s nothing wrong with watching someone do pickup, that’s how you learn. All the self‑help books/programs and self‑improvement advice are BS… why should you reinvent the wheel?
/r/seduction29/11/25 12:45 PM
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Talking too much is perfectly normal in the first 2–3 minutes. don’t worry about it, it’s perfect. The problem appears if you keep talking too much after she is “hooked.” Random questions - well… this is a problem, because it’s super weird to ask random questions when there’s no context. For example, I paint my pinky nail black, and when I notice a moment of silence in the conversation, I extend my hand and show her my pinky nail. It instantly creates a context, and we can talk about horror movi…
/r/seduction25/11/25 06:47 PM
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I’m not a doctor, but I know for sure that anxiety has many levels. Imagine level 10: someone in a hospital receiving therapy. Imagine level 1: someone you see on YouTube who can approach anyone as if it’s nothing. Someone at level 4 or 5 won’t be able to use the advice ‘just do it anyway.’ Maybe that works for someone at level 7 or 8 they just need a push from behind or can be motivated by words. But there’s no way the same solution will work for someone at level 4 or 5. A simplistic way of eva…
/r/seduction17/11/25 09:22 PM
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Everyone knows about not putting a woman on a pedestal, but right now this advice is taken to the extreme. Look at Andrew Tate and you’ll understand what I mean. For marketing purposes it works because it gives me an aura of a gangster boss, a super "bad boy" but in real life this is stupidity. Devaluing her is the opposite extreme of putting her on a pedestal, and you can see that either extreme is just as bad. I’ve never heard anyone talk about equilibrium, it seems like guys are either ‘bad’ …
/r/seduction17/11/25 04:45 PM
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This sub is badly messed up. There are countless ways to build confidence, yet you chose one of the worst, with one of the weakest frames imaginable.
/r/seduction17/11/25 03:28 PM
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It’s not a good feeling when she looks at me for a second and then keeps walking, it gives me the impression that I’m a beggar. The same goes for when I start talking to her but within a few seconds she picks up her phone and pretends she has to leave. I don’t count rejections from drunk women; they don’t really know what they’re doing. However, most of the time they are friendly, nice, and polite, it’s a characteristic I notice the more women I talk to. And actually, it’s perfectly normal to be…
/r/seduction17/11/25 10:22 AM
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There is a rule called the 'numbers game,' but in reality you can’t apply it in the city where you live, because you’ll quickly become known as ‘that guy.’ This is one of the reasons why direct openers are marketing concepts and most of the time not applicable in real life. It looks so cool on camera a scenario like this: "Hey I'm XYZ, I think you're cute, do you like me? Okay... now you're my gf". As a normal human being, you need to master situational / observational openers or even better to …
/r/seduction17/11/25 09:43 AM
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If it works for you, keep doing it as you say. However, if I take 100 beginners and tell them to start a conversation with a woman without context, I’m curious how many will actually be able to do it. In fact, I already know the answer, maybe 10% at most.
/r/seduction16/11/25 11:23 PM
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Talking without context is SUPER-MEGA weird.
/r/seduction16/11/25 11:04 PM
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It is so superficial and funny at the same time to put the entire responsibility on the other person, how easy it seems to just look at her and listen to what she is saying. In reality, it is far from this perfect scenario. When you approach a woman on the street, in the beginning, for the first 2–5 minutes, you are the one who talks for 80–90 percent of the time (no exception!) On a date, the percentage will again be about 70 percent for the first few minutes, and then, if everything goes well,…
/r/seduction16/11/25 09:44 PM
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A conversation especially is not a high pressure thing. I mean the phase when you’re not yet in a conversation, but just before it begins. Is it still easy then? Can you walk up to a stranger with no context and start talking, expecting them to join a conversation that has no background, no frame, nothing at all, relying only on the hope that they’re eager to talk with you? If you’re a very social person (and most people aren’t), OR MAYBE if you are a handsome guy then, yes it’s possible .Otherw…
/r/seduction16/11/25 09:16 AM
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It is difficult to start a conversation when you have no context or reason for talking. You can't just approach a stranger out of nowhere like a crazy person.
/r/seduction15/11/25 02:44 PM
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The more words you need to explain a theory, the less you understand it.
/r/seduction15/11/25 11:03 AM
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Create a context to make things easier. An easy opener you can use at school or work is with a leather bracelet. Pretend you can’t tie the knot on your right wrist with your left hand, so you have a perfect excuse to ask a girl for help. While she ties the knot, make a simple remark like, “I’m curious how you’d look with this bracelet, let's try it, it only takes 30 seconds...” or "I owe you a beer. What, you don’t drink alcohol? That sucks! I thought you were the type who dances on tables in ba…
/r/seduction14/11/25 08:12 PM
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