If you wanted university students to know about men's rights, what would you share with them? (Responses will be submitted to my professor to teach her future students)

shady8x · 2012-08-01T23:23:12+00:00

Here are some more things for you to mention if you get into this conversation again.

Warning: you may want to avoid the more controversial ones.

So why aren't we asking what's wrong with a culture that drives boys, much more than girls, to take their own lives? Even in academia, where you can find studies on the most obscure topics, there is little research explaining why boys are disproportionately killing themselves. The Center for Adolescence at Stanford, a nationally recognized clearinghouse on teen behavior, has no one on its long roster of experts who can speak on the topic. Neither does the American Association of Suicidology, an organization dedicated to suicide prevention since 1968. "As much as I would love to lead the charge (in finding out why boys kill themselves), try to go out and get funding for it," said Lanny Berman, the executive director of the association. So the association has an expert on female suicide but none on male suicide, even though suicide is an overwhelmingly male issue well beyond adolescence. Of the 30,622 Americans of all ages who took their own lives in 2001, 24,672 were men.

and this

“Between 2000 and 2007 [Australia's] National Health and Medical Research Council spent $51,559,784 on female cancer research and just $15,099,474 on research for male cancer.” This despite men's generally higher death rate from cancer! [PDF]

and this

one of the things they asked me to do was figure out how much money the province was dedicating to men's resources as opposed to women's resources (I'm in Canada, btw). I just finished, and the numbers are pretty interesting... In 2009/2010 it was $1,516,460 toward men and $57,562,373 toward women.

and this

More than 200 survey-based studies show that domestic violence is just as likely to strike men as women.

221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their male partners.

Where are domestic violence shelters for men? Where is the parity funding? Why are there gender specific laws like the Violence Against Women Act?

and this

Far more violent crimes of all types are committed against men, than women.

http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/data_stats/index.html

and this

Men are raped by women about as often as women are raped by men. Notice how the rape of men by women is not listed under rape. And how the lifetime rate of raped men is estimated to be almost the same amount as the rape of men for that one year alone, as though men didn't exist prior to that year.

Another HUGE COMMENT WITH MANY LINKS TO MANY SOURCES, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE RAPE OF MEN!!!

The fact is that stats are misrepresented to make the rape of males appear to be less common than it actually is.(Very good article that I suggest you read)

Yet when rape is discussed in the public sphere, it is always the men that are painted as the rapists and women that are painted as the victims. Jokes about males being raped aren't just common and accepted, they are expected. Men are taught to follow the rules or they will be punished by rape in prison.(ex:Don't drop the soap!)(even though most men raped in prison/jail, are raped by female prison staff not other male inmates.)

In case you think that women don't rape so often:

94% of sexually abused youth in correctional facilities reported being abused by female staff. Only 40% of the staff is female. From Sexual Victimization in Juvenile Facilities, 2008-09 PDF

Moving on to adults, among inmates reporting staff sexual misconduct, ~ 65% reported a female aggressor. From Sexual Victimization in Prisons and Jails Reported by Inmates, 2008-09 PDF

In fact:

the Justice Department came up with a new number: 216,000. That’s 216,000 victims, not instances. These victims are often assaulted multiple times over the course of the year. The Justice Department now seems to be saying that prison rape accounted for the majority of all rapes committed in the US in 2008, likely making the United States the first country in the history of the world to count more rapes for men than for women.

and this

Female rapists rarely if ever get convicted. Mostly if they raped a small child.( 3 in 4 B.C. boys on street sexually exploited by women ) And they get ridiculously short sentences(compared to what men get for the same crimes)

And even then: 2004 Study of teacher sexual misconduct. Those that are punished/reprimanded (96% male, 4% female) and those reported by students (57% male, 43% female) PDF (page 24, section 4.2)

and this

Speaking of what men get for the same crimes, there is a well documented disparity in sentencing between men and women.

RACIAL, ETHNIC, AND GENDER DISPARITIES IN SENTENCING: EVIDENCE FROM THE U.S. FEDERAL COURTS

New Study Shows Men Receive Harsher Sentences for Crimes than Females

Female inmates locked up for non-violent offenses get out after serving just 20 percent of the sentence

Under a recent federal directive, men are convicted of rape in university campuses if the investigating board finds that the chances they committed the rape are at 50.00001% or greater.

Judges told: 'be more lenient to women criminals'

Women's prisons should close, says justice taskforce

and this

Over the last few decades along with the rise in private prisons, there has been an ever expanding war on men(especially black men). Some call it the war on drugs, yet despite the fact that women also use drugs, there is only a small increase in incarceration of women since the beginning of the drug war.(That small increase is mostly due to the mandatory sentencing laws which prevent judges from giving women special treatment. If you look at the disparity studies above, most of the disparity which get women lesser sentences comes from judges departing from the guidelines when they are allowed to do so)

How often do women use illegal drugs? According to research by the US National Institute of Drug Abuse (NIDA), almost half of all women age 15-44 have used drugs at least once in their life. Of these women, nearly 2 million have used cocaine and more than 6 million have used marijuana within the past year. Most women drug abusers use more than one drug. An estimated 9 million women use illegal drugs in 2008;

So why aren't they being arrested/convicted more? Because they don't have a penis.

and this

False rape charges present a unique threat to men and are not as rare as some people would like to pretend them to be. Each accusation can destroy a mans life because unlike the accusers, the accused name is not protected from the press. These false accusations also make all rape victims much less likely to be believed. That hurts a lot of innocent women and a lot of innocent men that are already barely ever believed since people don't think males are raped that often...

Here are a few examples of false rape claims:

Cab driver accused of rape over a 13 dollar cab fare

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home/Mum-to-be-jailed-for-sex-assault-claim.htm

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/TEENAGER-ASSAULT-CABBIE/story-11601070-detail/story.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-13879783

http://yorktown.patch.com/articles/police-teen-falsely-reports-incident-claims-sexual-assault-while-in-a-taxi

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/4143953.Woman_jailed_for_false_rape_claim/

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8405240.Drug_addict_lied_about_cabbie_rape/

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/local-west-yorkshire-news/2011/07/30/woman-who-threatened-huddersfield-cabbie-with-fake-rape-claim-before-robbing-him-is-jailed-86081-29145715/2/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10465915

The worst part though, in countries like USA, false accusers are almost never charged even with overwhelming video proof of their guilt, while men are charged and sometimes convicted on nothing more than the word of an accuser.(I can never understand how guilt can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt on someones word alone)

Hach8 · 2012-08-01T22:23:37+00:00

Bulletpoints? (LMK if you want more detail)

Pertaining specifically to sexuality:

False Rape Accusations - Impact and Due Process (particularly on the campus)
Paternal reproduction rights / parental surrender
Male sexual performance expectations (expectation of men to "provide" the orgasm for women, for example)
Male Gender Roles in modern dating and sexuality
Divorce and Male Suicide
Circumcision for Sexual Aesthetic Reasons

There are other important things but I don't think they are related to sexuality. Let me know if you want those included in a list.

G-O · 2012-08-01T22:53:31+00:00

You could just look at the bias that exists in sociology its self. Investigate the false stats feminists use, compare them to the real stats and examine the rationality of how one abandons bias to get the results they want to find. Wage gap, domestic violence etc.

idontgiveitout · 2012-08-02T00:12:02+00:00

Demonization of male sexuality.

Game Theory.

Paedo fear.

that sort of thing...

rightsbot · 2012-08-01T21:38:20+00:00

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2012-08-02T02:05:30+00:00

I'd use these if I could - great way to impart a lot of new information at once. Far better than clunky and boring stats and charts.

http://breakingtheglasses.blogspot.ie/search/label/effeminitions

ghebert001 · 2012-08-02T01:39:17+00:00

I hate to say this, but people will be more open to a woman's point of view on a subject like this. I suggest turning to girlwriteswhat's youtube videos for material especially the four part legal paternal surrender series (LPS Parts 1, 2, 3 and 4) as well as this one which speaks on why men don't marry (as much) and society's expectation on men to "man-up".

stemgang · 2012-08-02T02:22:42+00:00

Seriously?

The idea of a lesson plan is a great one, in theory.

But you don't think that a female sociology of sexuality professor (code-phrase for feminist) is simply going to discard your lesson plan, or worse?

pcarvious · 2012-08-02T09:05:12+00:00

If you're doing a lesson plan it should be relatively specific. You've been given a lot of material thanks to other posters, shady specifically, and should focus on one subject within that. Now with the class talking about sexuality, I think the teacher is intending for it to be within the bounds for that.

You could talk about male attractiveness being linked to their ability to provide, or you could send her a lesson plan related to men's expected hypersexuality.

Personally, I'd give her shady's post and tailor it to suicide, but that's me.

a_weed_wizard · 2012-08-02T02:08:42+00:00

Sociology is almost synonymous with feminism so I can't imagine this going over too well, OP.

Paternity fraud and how the courts double the injustice.

Reproductive rights (men's lack of).

False accusations or more specifically how the system refuses to punish proven liars, and how it is automatically assumed the man did it when he is accused.

Huge disparity in suicide rates.

Huge disparity in criminal sentencing for the same crimes when compared to women.

These are a few more.

AryoBarzan · 2012-08-02T00:20:20+00:00

Just start reading "No, Seriously What About Teh Menz?", and you'll get a good idea of what you can talk about.

Just remember to preface every sentence with "patriarchy", so they know the issues are all the big bad men's fault and not in any way perpetuated by feminists or faulty statistics made by them. Because, you know, that would be misogynistic.

Liverotto · 2012-08-02T01:24:36+00:00

Every time you have an erection a poor girl gets raped. /s

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