why don't men lobby the government as much as women?

TheRealPariah · 2012-03-16T04:05:00+00:00

Men do not advocate for themselves. Men usually advocate more for women than men. Women advocate for women, always.

kanuk876 · 2012-03-16T04:10:13+00:00

In part, because of the "empathy gap". This was discussed recently and cogently by GirlWritesWhat.

gringo1980 · 2012-03-16T14:44:14+00:00

MRM doesn't have enough organization/money yet.

targor · 2012-03-16T22:34:32+00:00

When women group together for support they're networking. When men do it they're an "old boys club" who just want women in the kitchen.

neofool · 2012-03-17T02:45:58+00:00

I think men span a wider spectrum politically than women do and this leads to difficulty creating a lobbying organization difficult but not impossible.

radamanthine · 2012-03-16T04:45:56+00:00

Their wives don't let them.

AryoBarzan · 2012-03-16T07:11:23+00:00

You have to understand something about feminism that I haven't seen discussed around here. Feminism, traditionally, has rode the coattails of other (even larger) movements. Initially, it attached itself to the 'civil rights' movement of the 60's and later, the LBGT movement. These movements allowed feminism exposure and to remain relevant (aside from the direct lying about rape/DV statistics and general lying about the goals of feminists/feminism). Not only exposure but persons which associate themselves with these movements, tend to also (by cross-association) align themselves with feminism. Feminism has more recently done this with atheism. Therefore, feminism has had much support from these groups. Not to mention the general 'empathy' and general 'female-advocation' tendencies (largely by men, as well) of the West.

SpawnQuixote · 2012-03-16T13:55:31+00:00

Many men, such as myself, see no point in fighting a system that is destined to self implode anyway. It's doing it now. States are cutting back on funding and employment, the federal government is shoveling dollars out the door for entitlements faster than it can print them to secure votes from the women. We are importing men from 3rd world countries just to sustain the birth rate and have some dollars trickle up to social programs to support women.

It is unsustainable because once you remove a man's connection to the community, you remove the support it needs to thrive.

We are seeing the decay of the USA and the inevitable crash will be hardest on women. Many guys are staying single, hoarding cash and ready to move without the burden of supporting a system that doesn't care or support them.

Read about Argentina's financial collapse. There were no feminists on board the Titanic when it started to sink.

rightsbot · 2012-03-16T03:46:18+00:00

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2012-03-16T12:01:29+00:00

We aren't organized. Not yet anyway.

YadaYadaYada2 · 2012-03-16T15:07:47+00:00

ಠ_ಠ agree

Bobsutan · 2012-03-19T03:36:18+00:00

Perhaps because most guys don't find the MRM until they've been fleeced by their ex in a divorce. By that point they don't have the means to lobby and younger guys haven't accumulated enough disposable income yet. We also don't have a national organization taking donations and setting up events on college campuses throughout the country the way women do with NOW and AAUW.

Title	why don't men lobby the government as much as women?
Author	toptrool
Upvotes	11
Comments	21
Date	March 16, 2012 3:44 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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