New Hampshire Rep Dan Itse(R) Submits Bill to prevent law enforcement from being able to immediately arrest an abuser who has assaulted his or her partner unless the officer has actually witnesses the crime take place

anticapitalist · 2012-01-26T23:04:08+00:00

If there are signs of abuse, aka probable cause, then they should be able to arrest the person (man or woman), even if it isn't happening when the police get to the scene.

It’s clear if a police officer sees somebody robbing a bank they ought to be able to arrest them

And if the bank has already been robbed then a suspect can be arrested.

IMO this isn't the MRA tree to be barking up. The sword cuts both ways. We should be pushing for equal consideration when we are the victim of abuse.

anticapitalist · 2012-01-27T00:15:17+00:00

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2012-01-27T08:49:29+00:00

I was going to say:

To be honest, I'd be more comfortable if both people involved went in police custody in the event of an accusation of non-obvious abuse. If both go in, then it gives someone less reason to falsely accuse someone, and it still allows for separation of the two in the event that someone really is going to get the shit kicked out of them once the police take off.

But then I realized, why not give the alleged victim a safe haven in the event of a lack of evidence? Tell them to go to a friend's house, offer to take them there, if they don't have one they could stay at they could possibly stay at the police station. Personally, if I were actually at risk of being abused, I wouldn't care where in particular I am, just that that place is away from my abuser. This way, no baseless arrests, no chance of beaten-up person after the police leave, and no real immediate reason for a false accusation.

Ma99ie · 2012-01-26T23:11:22+00:00

That should go over like a lead zeppellin.

CocoaDetective · 2012-01-27T03:48:23+00:00

HB1581

HB1608

These are the two bills they're discussing. At least I think they are I'm not terribly clear how that site handles different versions of the same bill.

funnyfaceking · 2012-01-27T05:09:13+00:00

I was molested when I as 6. I tried to report it when I was 21. I have Asperger's. I was literally laughed at by a judge because I had been falsely accused of DV. I spent the next 10 years of my life having panic attacks and living in total terror. If I had been taken seriously, the statute of limitations would not have been passed yet and a pedophile would not be free to do whatever he is free to do to those children you claim this law protects. Due process laws exist for a reason. VAWA set this country back 200 years.

ForMensRights · 2012-01-26T21:52:44+00:00

According to the Huffington Post, state statistics show 38 percent of homicides in 2011 were domestic violence-related, and the vast majority of domestic violence cases were perpetrated by men again women.

Here we go.......................................

Edit: Also, it's alleged abuser. An abuser needs to have be proven first.

A_Nihilist · 2012-01-26T22:00:41+00:00

Feminists are gonna shut that down pretty quickly I imagine.

MRMRising · 2012-01-27T02:37:25+00:00

All crimes should be proven before somebody is arrested. Men have every right to expect constitutional protections.

funnyfaceking · 2012-01-27T07:21:30+00:00

The bill also prevents law enforcement from being able to immediately arrest a false accusation victim unless the officer actually witnesses the crime take place.

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