Marriage: What’s in It for Men?

overcontrol · 2011-12-21T07:01:06+00:00

A false sense of security. Guys like security, especially when it comes to offspring.

ryuh90 · 2011-12-21T09:39:29+00:00

Absolutely nothing.

There's more to lose than to gain.

ThePigman · 2011-12-21T10:15:04+00:00

"Marriage: What’s in It for Men?"

I suppose it increases your social status slightly, but the negatives render that sole positive irrelevant.

ucecatcher · 2011-12-21T12:22:35+00:00

Misery and self-loathing. Oh, and poverty. Don't forget the poverty.

Revorob · 2011-12-21T07:01:25+00:00

There is fuck-all in marriage for men. Stay single.

InfallibleBiship · 2011-12-21T17:33:08+00:00

It's tough. A lot of men would love to get married, but it is generally a dumb thing to do nowadays. Most men are proud of living their lives in a practical way, and can see that marriage is simply not a practical decision. As family law recognizes cohabitation more and more as being equivalent to marriage (which is what I expect will happen), it will not coerce men to marry. On the contrary, it will simply reduce their desire to make any sort of commitment to a woman.

There will always be those poor souls who think love is all you need, who are willing to throw caution to the wind and take a chance with a woman. Some of them will live a happy married life. Most of them, however, will end up in divorce court, and can expect no quarter in that venue.

There is nothing that anyone can do about this. It's a societal wave which has to run its course. The only thing men can do as individuals is to look out for their own best interests.

2011-12-21T22:06:51+00:00

tl;dr: nothing

TheDongerNeedsFood · 2011-12-21T21:03:43+00:00

I gotta admit, I'm a young guy who is really starting to buy into this. Think about it, as of right now, if a man gets married, he is basically handing ALL of the cards to the woman.

She calls the police, they side with her...

She wants a divorce, she's getting one...

She wants the kids, and the house, your money, and your possessions, she's getting all of those and then some...

I just frankly don't think its worth it to put your entire future into the hands of someone else who can literally crush it all in a heartbeat if she feels like it...

Why spend my prime years as a man (35-55) being bound to one woman, when I can spend them running through as many women as I want?

deadlast · 2011-12-21T09:06:38+00:00

which may sit well with women for a while, until their clocks begins to tick, and they become desperate for a baby. All of the sudden men look more appealing — but the men don’t want to marry them.'

This is the root of the issue here.

Women want to take full advantage of their prime years (18-32) while they can. That's fine, except that around 35 when they start getting desperate - they expect men to suddenly line up and promise to provide for her and children the rest of her life.

Meanwhile men, who have seen what happens with custody battles - basically say "hell no. If I'm going to be treated like shit by women, it's at least going to be by a young attractive one, and without a contract that helps them do so." or just write the whole thing off entirely. Being single isn't so bad.

So then women counter with the shaming language "boys who won't grow up" and "fear of commitment" and "just use women for sex" and all that. That may have worked at some point, but we've been raised on a steady diet of that shaming since we were 13. By 35 we've built up an immunity to it, and it only drives us further away.

Women.. you want to get married and stay married? Treat your husband like your most adored treasure, not like a race horse you plan to whip for all it is worth until you've used it all up. Don't use sex as leverage to get what you want, because that turns it to poison.

They talk about robotic sex dolls, but that's not the issue. We do fine with just porn. The issue is going to be increased mechanization. I already have a washing machine, dishwasher, vacuum (and robotic vacuum). There's plenty of easy to make meals. A full cleaning of my home takes at most a couple hours on a weekend. A sexless robot brings more to the table now than women do. Robots, porn, and my guy friends... why do I need a woman again?

Kids? Sure.. I might be inclined, if I didn't see how they'd be ripped from me by a woman who wants to live life on her terms (but off my child support)... although now we are back to "women are only good for babies" - except that's what the feminists have made happen in what is now a simply depressing irony.

I was always just looking for someone warm to share my life with. Oh well, can't have everything.

Note: I am bisexual. Please consider my statements in that context.

2011-12-21T04:42:58+00:00

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deadlast · 2011-12-21T18:08:53+00:00

Plenty. Marriage is correlated with higher happiness (for argument that it's causitive see http://www.bsfrey.ch/articles/434_06.pdf), higher income, and leads to longer lifespans, paticularly to men.

But I guess facts don't suit your implicit rhetorical argument.

Title	Marriage: What’s in It for Men?
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Date	December 21, 2011 4:18 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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