Hilarious - Lying feminists set up fake feminism/masculism site, with no links to masculism, to promote more feminism

jmnzz · 2011-06-21T14:02:53+00:00

They won't remove the misandrist affiliations because they cannot see the misandry in them. Organizations like men can stop rape, which brands only men as rapists, insinuates that all men are potential rapists by suggesting all men need to be taught not to rape at a young age, and proclaims all men are obligated to be the bodyguards of women, uphold the beliefs of the contributors.

They are feminists plain and simple and feminists cannot support the rights of men simply because their core beliefs wont allow it.

matt_512 · 2011-06-21T16:12:21+00:00

Holy shit her links are offensive.

Rage test (god mode). If you care about men and this doesn't infuriate you, I will be amazed:

http://www.nomas.org/node/244

brunt2 · 2011-06-21T13:17:25+00:00

I was told that if I could prove that their affiliations were misandrist they would remove them. I submitted a complaint about their affiliation with "Men can stop rape", (because of the implication only and men in general rape). I published the court documents relating to Barry Goldstein of NOMAS being disbarred for falsifying evidence of child abuse against a man in a custody case and mentioned that NOW is openly hostile to shared parenting and responsible for and pro gender apartheid is victim services and law.

My post was deleted, and predictably I was banned. The links to NOMAS and MEN (can stop) Rape are still there.

Anyway, these people seem to be getting very nervous and are doing nothing to improve their reputation by defending themselves with more lies.

thetrollking · 2011-06-21T17:00:52+00:00

I was supposed to be involved, they wanted feminists and MRAs, but no MRAs (other than me) volunteered so they went full feminist. Ozy sent me an email to check it out, I told her my complaints, and asked if I could do a few guest articles in the possible future because they are interested in a bit of balance. I sent her some of my old stuff talking about the "men against rape" concept and my bit on the pink industry....can't wait to see what happens

2011-06-21T15:02:59+00:00

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Fatalistic · 2011-06-21T17:56:23+00:00

The only thing feminists can do in the face of the overwhelming empirical data, fact and the truth about things is try to subvert. Nothing new here.

The whole "Ultimate Men's Summit" recently was a whole heaping load of that, aside from a few names like Warren Farrel and Paul Elam.

2011-06-21T15:11:39+00:00

Thanks, I was taken in by them at first assuming they were just ditsy, but your explanation makes more sense, they are repackaging mens issues as trivial sex choices.

Cookie · 2011-06-21T15:50:32+00:00

They've gone too far for /r/feminisms though, see here.

kloo2yoo · 2011-06-21T20:42:32+00:00

this. this is why I don't throw open the doors and immediately ofer mod positions to people who say that mras & feminists should be friends "because we all want the same thing anyway".

this shit demonstrates that there are conspiracies against MRAs and the MRA point of view.

womblefish · 2011-06-22T06:46:48+00:00

From a recent thread at Ozymandias' blog:

(Judithica): I really appreciate the idea of trying to create a blog to address this as the feminist issue it is. [...] I love the idea of a male-apologist site that explains to men why the patriarchy hurts them just as much as women.

(Ozymandias) Exactly! Leave your email here or email me and I'll add you to the Google group for the blog, or you can guest-post once we've got this thing running

Groan. Sorry Ozy, this won't work. If you genuinely cared about men's issues, you would have listened to what actual men have to say on them, instead of rushing off to the girl's room to interpret it through a feminist theory lens.

This is, incidentally, more evidence that you haven't done your homework. High up on the list of why many MRAs hate feminism is "appropriation attempts", feminists trying to coup them, speak for them, interpret them, censor them and tame them. Feminists simply won't permit men to disagree, and that's the first prerequisite of dialogue.

I'm a proponent of young people's rights as well, but for heaven's sake: You're not giving young people a good name, when you as a 19-year old(?) rush in and think you got this whole men's rights thing, that you found on the internet, figured out better than people who have followed it and lived in it (and lived as men!) since before you were born. You're making such blatant mistakes.

2011-06-21T15:16:56+00:00

This is the result of that inspiring Ozymandias post?

EDIT:

Sigil; God help me,** I approved your first comment. Please don’t make me regret it. I didn’t approve the others** because they were bordering on spammy.

It's a feminist blog alright.

notthe9oclock · 2011-06-21T15:44:57+00:00

You're making the same mistake as when someone criticises the policies of Israel, and people shout "you're being anti-semitic!". It's possible to support the rights of men, while not supporting specific Men's Rights Activists because those specific MRAs are poorly-behaved. A large number of MRAs, in my personal experience as a man, are giving the MRA movement a bad name. I don't particularly want them as my spokesperson. I don't want Gloria Steinem as my spokesperson either.

Fuck "us vs them". Fuck "feminists vs masculists". People are people and more alike than different. It's a shame that -- just like the radfemz -- you're too focused on hating the opposition than trying to improve everyone's lot.

Incidentally, if you're going to accuse a site of lying, it helps not to lie in your post title. "No links to masculism"? I click through and see links to the National Coalition For Men, Fathers & Families -- as well as organisations with a broader remit but whose primary focus ends up being for the benefit of men (eg The Innocence Project, which seeks to exonerate the falsely-accused. Which, as you know, 98% of prisoners are male, so they're primarily working for the rights of men).

jmnzz · 2011-06-21T16:36:54+00:00

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ignatiusloyola · 2011-06-21T15:20:24+00:00

Brand new account, posting a lot on posts thought to be originated by Cliffor, and posting something extreme...

Yeah, I am not taking this seriously without something more substantial to back it up.

therealbarackobama · 2011-06-21T18:36:12+00:00

The point is, men experience sexism, mistreatment, and discrimination in many places in society (to name just a few examples, the draft, female genital mutilation versus circumcision, divorce proceedings, false rape allegations, dangerous working environments, depression and suicide, falling education rates, under-reported rape and domestic violence, etc.). Just as men have an advantage (or privilege) over women in society in many respects, the reverse is also true. That’s the point of this blog: We need to start better addressing the ways in which men get the short end of the stick.

This is typical feminist drivel, it's like we always say here in /mensrights, feminists just DON'T CARE about men's issues!

Scott2508 · 2011-06-22T10:18:50+00:00

well a quick run through , the name itself was offensive enough , then the slant of the posts was enough to make me queasy , then i saw drmindbeam is writing for it and then i knew we didnt have a hope .

Guy51234 · 2011-06-21T16:33:45+00:00

I beleive this is a site where the author, Ozymandia, can troll for non-membered partners who are sex type confused but know they're goddesses, two pieces of evidence, 1. the graphic??? 2. Ozy's bio, only goddessessess need apply.

I don't visit dyke pick up sites.

pteridophyta · 2011-06-21T17:24:03+00:00

Wait wait..."I’m a man, after all." from the post Libido Part 1.

Title	Hilarious - Lying feminists set up fake feminism/masculism site, with no links to masculism, to promote more feminism
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