Dying to be treated like on of the guys.

alphabetpal · 2011-02-18T18:23:13+00:00

I (M) tried to join the US Marines when I was 18. They rejected me because of a physical handicap - nothing debilitating, but something that may have, under certain circumstances, put me or other soldiers in danger. Although I was disappointed at the time, I realized they made the right decision. But here's the thing - a few years later, I ended up working on a Marine base as a civilian contractor, and I came into contact with several female "marines". It was PAINFULLY obvious that they would have been a far bigger liability in an actual fight than I ever could have been on my worst day.

argv_minus_one · 2011-02-19T02:13:31+00:00

Why would feminists want lower physical fitness/strength standards for women?

s0nicfreak · 2011-02-18T18:54:35+00:00

Is this implying that we shouldn't treat women the same as men? That women should not be allowed to become marines, police, etc.?

A man could be killed by slamming his head into concrete just the same as a woman. There are some men that are bigger than some other men, just as there are some men that are bigger than some women. There are also some women that are bigger than some men. Men aren't all stronger just because they're men. A man that plays video games all day is going to be weaker than a female that climbs rocks/mountains all day.

Treat them equally - have men and women pass the same tests/standards (don't lower them for women). Sure, there will be a lot less women that pass. But those that do pass will be passing because they put the effort into being stronger/more fit/etc. just as the men did.

stokkseyri · 2011-02-18T17:26:25+00:00

That bit about the female marine is pretty sad, it shows just how dangerous feminism can be for women.

Quazz · 2011-02-18T15:21:00+00:00

It just shows how much of a slave the government is to the feminists.

getter1 · 2011-02-19T08:00:18+00:00

What the fuck is going on in here.

Lets get the opinion of one women, then lets use that opinion to label feminism as a whole.

I'm sorry, but if a person is trying to think that women have the same physical capabilities as a man, then they are not a feminist, they are just insane. And to label them as a feminist is just being dishonest.

Ortus · 2011-02-19T19:46:10+00:00

Despite all of our technical advances, combat is still a literal, physical fight

This would be funny if it wasn't so mind boggling stupid.

TheArtofXan · 2011-02-18T19:53:38+00:00

The part of the article I have a hard time with is that while Gooseberry Bush is stating that she thinks women should be able to serve or be drafted, it's not stated that she supports lower testing standards for women. That may well be the case, but it's not indicated in the article, so we're forced to make our own assumptions, or research into Gooseberries stance.

Taking the article at face value, all we know is that Gooseberry supports women in the Military, and feminists in general believe in lower standards for testing women. My concern is that this article is either a direct response against Gooseberry, and uses generalizations about feminists to make assumptions about her position; or its a response to feminism and uses the position of a single individual to help build its argument.

rantgrrl · 2011-02-19T02:54:08+00:00

I could get a perfect score on the PFT test for female marines.

In fact I could do better then that because I can actually do chin ups; no goddamn flexed hangs.

This terrifies me.

barbadosslim · 2011-02-18T21:02:17+00:00

lol the article is defending a guy who beat a woman to death

<3 mensrights

Title	Dying to be treated like on of the guys.
Author	thetrollking
Upvotes	66
Comments	34
Date	February 18, 2011 2:17 PM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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