A boy becomes a man.

marakith · 2009-08-18T12:39:22+00:00

I once held the door open for a female colleague, who refused to go through the door. Instead she berated me for patronising her.

I asked her if she was in a bad mood and was on her period. She was outraged.

I then pointed out that this was patronising behaviour, not holding open a door, which I'd do for any human being, regardless of gender.

2009-08-18T15:53:42+00:00

I find that holding the door open for a woman, 80% do not say thank you, and continue to walk away. When they do not say thank you, I always say your welcome. They do not reply, but I make sure they heard me. I also hold the door for most others, including those older than I. Men, 99% of the time, say thank you,

svonnah · 2009-08-18T15:30:20+00:00

I'm female, and I hold the door for everyone. I expect others, both men and women, to do the same. Common courtesy.

toblotron · 2009-08-18T12:43:44+00:00

Doors should be held up if it the next person is so close it wouldn't cost you more than a few seconds (no exact measurment calculated) holding it up - but I guess the customs for that are different in every country.

If everyone does this we will all spend less time and energy on getting through doors :)

I thought your comment to the woman in question was needlessly hostile, which leads me to believe you still have some anger to vent. -Hope you get over it soon; making you into an asshole is just another way to win ;)

tincholio · 2009-08-18T11:50:35+00:00

Holding the door for someone behind you is common decency, nor chivalry. Sorry about your nasty divorce, but you sound like an asshole, and make the rest of us look bad with your attitude.

Li17 · 2009-08-18T17:52:47+00:00

Hey, someone else from Utah on reddit. Now I don't feel so alone.

My general rule for holding the door is if it would be closed by the time they get there, I let it close, but if it would still be closeing when they get there, I hold it.

tomek77 · 2009-08-18T15:20:06+00:00

I used to be very chivalrous too (I think it is in men's DNA, just like being entitled is in women's, for evolutionary reasons: women grab resources to increase their children's survival rate) but in today's anti-male climate, it serves no purpose. If I ever have sons I will teach them not to be chivalrous. I think chivalry is one of the main reasons why feminist man-hatred was so successful.

AnnArchist · 2009-08-18T14:50:09+00:00

Sounds like you are just an asshole.... but that will prolly get you laid.

The diatribe was completely unsolicited and unnecessary.

Sarstan · 2009-08-24T21:16:13+00:00

You know, this is completely against anything I'd ever do or even consider doing unless someone crossed me, but I loved this. It's nice to see a man shove a woman down and not get punished severely for it. Kind of giving back for the last 40 years.

billrehm · 2009-08-18T14:52:01+00:00

2009-08-18T16:19:57+00:00

I do not think the title "A boy becomes a man" fits this post at all. Taking your rage out on others who have done you no serious harm is not the mark of a man. One should act like a gentleman at all times, regardless of the company around you.

Also, I would like to point out that the feminist idea of not having a door opened is usually in regards to opening a door and letting them pass through first, in that classic "Ladies first" way.

On the other hand, the OP seems to have implied he didn't hold the door for someone coming behind him. I'd be annoyed if another guy did that to me, though I wouldn't call him an asshole.

Can we stop taking pride in misogynistic behaviour, even if there is a cause? We want to be seen as dependable father figures and pillars of the community. We cannot be dragged down to the level of the man-hating radicals, or the average, reasonable woman, one who might even take up our flag, will take us as seriously as we take the radicals.

2009-08-19T09:20:37+00:00

And I just turned around and kind of laughed and said, "chivalry is dead.. you bitches did not watch where you were going with feminism and now you better watch were your going when you come out of the grocery store!"

That was the best quip I've ever head on feminism.

Title	A boy becomes a man.
Author	oconostota
Upvotes	3
Comments	32
Date	August 18, 2009 11:34 AM UTC (16 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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