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they're openly promoting mass murder of 90% of the male population, feminism IS a fascist movement

Selfmade_3127

September 9, 2021
248 upvotes
/r/AntiFeminists

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Title they're openly promoting mass murder of 90% of the male population, feminism IS a fascist movement
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Selfmade_3127

Upvotes 248
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Date September 9, 2021 9:27 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/AntiFeminists
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[–]aaron_j_gonzalez 57 points58 points59 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not even about the numbers. They care more about "How helpful is this man to our movement?" If the man acts enough like a pick-me, they get to stick around.

[–]IXentimenTI 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao that wouldnt be what happens. Those pussy ass pick me guys would go first.

[–]iGhostEdd 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Asses were made to be eaten not kissed

[–]Wildhouse83 70 points71 points72 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Ironically, this would favour men, due to the forces of supply and demand. If 9 women come for every man, than every man would be considered a Chad, Tyrone etc. While a lot of women would be Incels.

[–]IvorySoldier 57 points58 points59 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Plus when there's no men then women will have to take up doing so many shitty jobs

[–]Wildhouse83 54 points55 points56 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Not to forget that they would run out of men to blame for their own decisions.

[–]IvorySoldier 45 points46 points47 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Omg they'd have to take accountability 😂😂😂

[–]Wildhouse83 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That would lead to mass suicide. As a result, the number of men and women would become more or less equal.

[–]MyUserNameIsSkave -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"I guess 1% is better"

[–]Heterodynist 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And, the 10% of men that existed would be so highly prized that they wouldn’t work, in all likelihood. It would be like the drones amongst bees…Some of them exist only to fertilize the queen.

[–]IvorySoldier 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh yeah they'd take no shit from a woman cause they'd just move on to the next

[–]theggyolk 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

sally can’t think that far into it.

[–]IXentimenTI 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You understand that 10% would be top 10% best looking men (most likely) and they would be used for sex and reproduction and nothing more. Having sex all the time seems fun but shit would get old and don't get me started on sleeping with bottome tier wome, which what you would be forced to do.

[–]Wildhouse83 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I am not sure if women would share the remaining men to that extent. Competition among women is quite high. Maybe the men would figure out a way to avoid bottom tier women.

And yes, the men alive would be the top tier guys to whom I do not belong to. Fortunately, I already had enough fun, so it is okay if I do not have to live in a world run by feminism.

[–]IXentimenTI 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women share top guys all the time, there is simply to many of them and too little of the guys. And dont get it twisted, these women would rather die than be married to a guy so sharing really isnt a problem for them. Granted a system like that could never work for many other reasons, but this is what they think in their twisted minds.

[–]Heterodynist 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with this…

[–]ElementalChicken 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well no since babies have +- 50% chance to be either gender. You would have to continually kill male.babies to do this lol.

[–]Wildhouse83 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As if Feminists would have a problem with that.

[–]antifeminist3 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And in a democracy, men would have essentially no say.

[–]Recording_Important 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dont think a civilization thats 90 percent female would last very long. If somehow it even got that far.

[–]Pingayaso 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (38 children) | Copy Link

And what granny did about it? Nothing just virtue signal like all feminists that say the same, i'd love to see them try to kill men, that day feminism would end.

Let them bark.

[–]RigidStandards 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Oh they did something about it. She doesn't advocate for doing so in violent manner. She advocates for doing so through reproductive means to ensure only females are born.. so yeah, if women are allowed complete control over reproductive means (ie abortion) and this ideology spreads then it absolutely could work but it would require men to allow that to happen, which many already have they just haven't started to eliminate male births exclusively.

[–]Pingayaso 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One beauty of feminism and feminists is their hypocrisy, they may want to kill male unborns to push the agenda but most will abort no matter the sex of the child because they're too selfish to let any baby ruin their vacations and their gender studies career, i don't see any feminist that doesn't wants a child, raising a girl for years only to show off a couple of times on how they killed the male unborn because "revolution" amd nobody remembering her 5 years later.

[–]Jinthd -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

that would requier all women to not want a boy. this would requier all women willingly go through abortion. this would requier women to do what other women tell them (and they dont. we have a female head of state)

abortion is not a walk in the park or like just the inconvenience of wearing a mask. some one is ripping out parts of your body. Spiritual things aside.

and what is this about men not "allowing" complete control over repoductive means. If all women decided to only get girls from now on, you could do nothing about it following the law.

btw the qoute is 39 years old. Sally is dead. nothing spreading here

[–]RigidStandards 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol you literally refuted none of my points. In fact you supported many of my points. I never made any comment as to how difficult abortion is or that women would terminate all male pregnancies. I merely said they could.

and what is this about men not "allowing" complete control over repoductive means. If all women decided to only get girls from now on, you could do nothing about it following the law.

This supports my argument and believe it or not men had/have a say in the passing of laws.

btw the qoute is 39 years old. Sally is dead. nothing spreading here

So your saying after a person dies their ideas can't still be understood and spread? Ridiculous. We have writings from thousands of years ago that continue to influence people.

[–]Jinthd 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I am not trying to refute or say you are wrong. Just argueing that they could not ever have the chance to succeed. And about not allowing - i had the feeling you ment just let things happen. I think the whole idea of trying to reduce the male proportion of the human race would need such an insane and indepth chance of human way of life, no „group“ could initiate. All human made idiologies failed in any way. If you do not get all in line, you fail. This idea is so insane…we make fools of ourselves if we mistake this „joke“ or stupidity.

[–]Galdalf-the-Grey 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

They want to murder us in the womb.

[–]Galdalf-the-Grey 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Sally dreams of dead baby boys.

[–]Jinthd -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Sally is dead

[–]Galdalf-the-Grey 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Oh but her hatred of men will live on in millions of young impressionable girls attending gender studies courses at your local university. She perfected the art of dividing the sexes into collectives.

[–]Jinthd 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

She perfected the art of dividing the sexes into collectives.

That is somewhat ironic. Sally Gearhart perfected division? Did she came up with making laws for man and women different? in my country women needed permission of their husbands to get a job until 1977 by law (germany). In America there have been times wifes were not allowed to vote because they were not allowed to own property (widows were allowed).

Or do you want to say she rallied women to become a collective aware of opression?

Dont know if millions atend gender studies at my local university right now, but sure, for argument sake. the quote of Sally is 39 years old. In germany we know that you only need few years to turn a society upside down, if your jazz resonates with people. Sally is only a sidenote in history. I would bet only 1 in 10 purple haired gender study weirdo ever heard of Sally Gearhart in particular.

[–]Galdalf-the-Grey 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Not knowing her name is not the same as not being indoctrinated to her cause.

What about this statement speaks to equality by Sally?

“Gearhart outlines a three-step proposal for female-led social change from her essay, "The Future–-If There Is One–-is Female":

I) Every culture must begin to affirm a female future. II) Species responsibility must be returned to women in every culture. III) The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race”

She is a androcidal female supremacist. Her goals are clear. Her audiences hearing mounds of anti male grievances aimed at turning all women into female supremacists like Sally should not be confused with revealing oppression.

Her purposes were clearly stated. Her methods were identical to those captured in Mein Kamph and in fact there is proof that she was as successful at demonizing men as Adolph was at demonizing jews. Her audiences just haven’t quite ripened yet…

https://www.timesofisrael.com/duped-academic-journal-publishes-rewrite-of-mein-kampf-as-feminist-manifesto/

[–]Jinthd 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Her goals are lunatics. What entity on earth could convince „every culture“ to do anything? Maintain male proportion at 10%, in a society turning away from science but without murder. Right. Around the world. She is a silly d&d author not a mastermind of feminism.

[–]Galdalf-the-Grey 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She founded university gender studies at the University of San Francisco. A program that spread to virtually every University in North America. She did this to support her 3 goals. Don’t denigrate her achievement in generating current sentiments of male hatred from millions of converts to her cause. All by convincing them they were “oppressed”

[–]Jinthd 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That was the job she was employed for. She did not take over frisco uni. Founding studies is not necessary a bad thing. Sience can proof you wrong. Even jesus had diffrent plans and followers turned everything upside down. Sally is out of charge.

[–]MCAlleycat 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's not barking, it's a call to action.

Abortion is the means of killing men. The idea is to keep the action unspoken. It's an indoctrination technique that allows the populous to get the mission, and understand it, without it breaking the criminal "call to action," law.

Basically, the plan they have is for women to find out the gender of their child and assess the temperament of her husband. If he's gone or weak-valued, she can trick the child into thinking it's a girl, and call it a sexist, toxic male if it refuses. If the husband is around and strong-valued, there are two choices for her, win the children in divorce court, or if the husband is too squeaky clean / good for the children, to deny, then she can want an abortion and make up a reason. Lot's of choices that can appear very innocent.

[–]Jinthd -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

this call to action is 39 years old. looks like a veeeery slow plan. Maybe too slow, Sally died this year.

[–]MCAlleycat 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Have you never seen a movement before? Do you not understand what an agenda means?

It means that you add however much you can contribute to the movement's agenda so that over time the movement succeeds in carrying out it's agenda. While sally is gone, there are others pushing the pro-male-abortion idea. Let me give you a timeline example of an evil feminist agenda taking some time to implement:

Oct 22 2001 "Poses ethical questions" - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-79711/We-create-babies-men-claim-scientists.html
May 29 2014 "What's stopping humans from behaving like fringe examples of sexless reproduction" - https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20140530-do-we-need-sex-to-reproduce
Oct 14 2018 "Scientists are working on it" - https://www.earth.com/news/pregnancy-without-men-mice/
Dec 14 2020 "The How-To Guide!" - https://flo.health/getting-pregnant/trying-to-conceive/fertility/how-to-get-pregnant-without-a-man

[–]Jinthd -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Have seen some movements. If they Last for long time every movment changes a lot. Get more radical or less radical. And of they last for long time and dont get momentum, they Fade away. Feminism is shattered into smaller and bigger fractions. the one you describe is there, but in my eyes it is not important or leading.

[+]OftheSorrowfulFace -43 points-42 points-41 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

In my country we have a word for losers that fantasise about murdering women. We call them "virgins".

[–]Plzdontmindm3 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How tf did you get that out of what he said? He basically implied self-defense, and it wasn't even aggressively... just a warning.

[–]coolboy_24278 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

go back to fucking FDS

[–]raw_bro 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Wtf do you mean, if they start trying to murder us we'll protect ourselves, you feminist

[+]OftheSorrowfulFace -43 points-42 points-41 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Nobody is going to murder you. Stop playing the victim your whole life. It's not feminists' fault that you spend every day getting mad on reddit and doing nothing with your life.

[–]MCAlleycat 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure everyone does something with their life...

You're just mad that there is advocacy and voices speaking truths. You would prefer that people stopped taking a few minutes from their rather long days, to post about the bullshit that Feminists, themselves, have been taking a few minutes to say.

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[+]OftheSorrowfulFace -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Wrong on both counts, but then if you knew anything about women you wouldn't spend your life getting mad at the internet and posting on incel subs x

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[–]OftheSorrowfulFace -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, and yet I still get laid. Maybe if you stopped wasting your life collecting copypasta that no one is ever going to read and getting mad at strawmen on the internet you might be able to develop the social skills to talk to a woman x

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[–]OftheSorrowfulFace 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lmao, seethe

[–]Romanian_TVee 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm my country, we don't mock people based on how much sex they have.... looks like my country is better than yours

[–]IvorySoldier 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can't slut shame and body count doesn't matter but they'll call you a virgin😂

[–]Dllrisin 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Mocking virgins makes you even more of a loser

[–]OftheSorrowfulFace 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Buhhh feminism is the same as communism so actually it's Stalin's fault that I make women feel uncomfortable

[–]Dllrisin 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yah, and many men feel uncomfortable around women too. What's your point?

[–]Jinthd -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In my country we have a name for people who see something and go straight to make up their own story and mumbling about 39 year old quotes and implied calls to action and a group called "they" who wants to kill all this and that. We call them "Adolf".

be carefull, sometimes these guys run for presidency and are strangely succesfull

[–]striderwhite 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a lovely Granny... :D

[–]OwenWentFullMGTOW 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

10%. Because somebody still has to lift the heavy things and change the oil, I guess.

[–]Whystare 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I imagine there'd be shops that specialize in opening jar lids.

[–]yellomachine 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The lids wouldn't be on the jars in the first place because women are 'too good' to work at food packing plant.

[–]IvorySoldier 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Who would they fuck? They all just gonna share? I thought they hated sleeping around 😂😂

[–]CelticHound27 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Only hate it when the man sleeps around but for them hoeing is empowering

[–]IvorySoldier 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah haha but if it was 1 guy for every 10 girls he'd be having mad pussy. Plus he wouldn't do shit they tell him, he'd probably make them pay for dinner since dick would be a rare commodity

[–]CelticHound27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Haha mad as in literally sticking it in crazy. That or they’d be treated like cattle being studded out

[–]IvorySoldier 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If the dude has food and shelter he'll die happy

[–]No-Sir-2405 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That would be the day they whole movement is wiped out.

[–]Heterodynist 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What an evil skank.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Always has been

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

they won't have men to be their butlers hence they will have to do things themselves. OMG they're learning responsibility, after a century and they've finally done it!

[–]Iceman_Hottie 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not specifically fascist. It is simply one of the movements that prescribe violence against anyone in opposition, as it is narrative based rather than fact based. The core issue is whether violence is permissible at the first sight of disagreement or when there is a threat to life and wellbeing, and there are no feasible alternatives.

Feminism is therefore better grouped with religious zealots and all branches of politics left of liberalism, such as socialism (often a good sentiment, but due to critical flaws in approaches and logic does not work; there are better ways to achieve the sentiments based on liberalism) a specific subset of which is fascism.

A great example of why the broader category is more applicable is the acts of political genocide during the reign of terror in France immediately after the revolution, where the leftist (views represented by the left side of the French parliament pre-revolution, hence the name) executed anyone they even suspected of disagreeing.

[+]boundarychimps -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

  1. "Not all feminists" (and, um, just ignore that the rest don't disown the nutters)

  2. What exactly are you thinking that "fascism" means? It's not just a synonym for "evil". Keep in mind that the Fascists, the Communists, and the Nazis were all different (Italy, Russia, and Germany respectively). Fascism gets its name from wanting to have all the pillars of society working together (something about a bundle), which has approximately no relationship to wanting to murder almost half the population.

[+][deleted] -14 points-13 points-12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank you, finally. Most of the people in this sub are dumb teens hopping on the bandwagon. Can't shit on something you don't understand. They shit on feminism for the wrong reasons.

[–]Dllrisin 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism hasn't been about equality for at least 100 years now

[–]Dethel1901 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hey man, of that did happen, that would mean every man would have to have a harem so that the human race would continue, idk

[–]Bunphitak 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or you are held in in cages. Don't forget, if feminists bconvince the world to reduce men to 10%, this would mean that all this people who kill this much men are all feminists. Also you don't need to put your dick into a vagina to make her pregnant. If you know what sperm donations are then you know how this already works.

[–]ShivStarKiller 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Naturally, more females are born than males. Why do they want us trimmed down more?

[–]Heterodynist 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually, while I don’t disagree with your enthusiasm here, I think you may be factually wrong. I studied Anthropology and my understanding is that more males are born in every society and in every population on Earth. Males tend to die at younger ages everywhere on Earth, so there are more women alive on Earth at any given time.

[–]NadineEvje 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They can promote male genocide all they want but it’s never going to happen. Men are necessary for civilizations to prosper so no dictator or government would do that.

[–]yellomachine 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Taxes don't pay themselves.

[–]Sup_Im_Ravi 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like a great idea. That mean I get 10x as many women to pick from?

[+]sadisticfreak -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

OP is wrong and spreading misinformation

"Gearhart, a dedicated pacifist, recognized that this kind of change could not be achieved through mass violence. On the critical question of how women could achieve this, Gearhart argues that it is by women's own capacity for reproduction that the ratio of men to women can be changed though the technologies of cloning or ovular merging, both of which would only produce female births. She argues that as women take advantage of these reproductive technologies, the sex ratio would change over generations.[14]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Miller_Gearhart

[–]Heterodynist 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This isn’t misinformation. Your post confirms exactly why this subreddit disapproves of Gearhart’s position. There isn’t any misinformation here, you’re just trying to control our beliefs. That is evil and what you are doing is morally wrong.

[–]sadisticfreak -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's 100% misinformation for OP to state that she called for mass murder or violence. Period.

[–]manbro7 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They're 2 seperate people which makes it worse and they were both insane. But yes it was the other feminist who called all men should be genocided (and tried it) this one "just" called for a eugenics breeding away the male sex. Mass elimination of a particular hated group to "decontaminate" in her own words. They're all nazi ideas.

https://www.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/pf7uu6/radical\_feminism\_is\_the\_most\_obvous\_hate\_movement/

[–]sadisticfreak 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They're all disgusting ideas, yes. OP is still wrong by claiming that the woman that's quoted has called for mass murder. OP is spreading a lie, flat out.

[–]RockHardBooner -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes it is lol, nothing in there suggests mass murder. Also when has there ever been any sort of anti-men mass murderer? There aren't many female equivalents to like, Elliot Roger

[–]Emanon-L 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In her early career, Gearhart took part in a series of seminars at San Francisco State University, where feminist scholars were critically discussing issues of rape, slavery, and the possibility of nuclear annihilation. Gearhart outlines a three-step proposal for female-led social change from her essay, "The Future–-If There Is One–-is Female":

I) Every culture must begin to affirm a female future.
II) Species responsibility must be returned to women in every culture.
III) The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.

From the same link you provide us with.

[–]sadisticfreak -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And nowhere here does she call for mass murder or violence.

[–]Jinthd -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

jep, and most guys here got fooled and think it is a recent quote. a "call to action".

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Sally Miller Gearhart

Sally Miller Gearhart (April 15, 1931 – July 14, 2021) was an American teacher, feminist, science-fiction writer, and political activist. In 1973, she became the first open lesbian to obtain a tenure-track faculty position when she was hired by San Francisco State University, where she helped establish one of the first women and gender study programs in the country. She later became a nationally known gay rights activist.

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[–]Jinthd -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

OP should learn about fascism!

btw the quote is 39 years old and Sally died this year. So much about "spreading the idiology". We in germany know how fast shit can hit the fan (especially in regards to fascism). 39 years and no one ever heard of Sally is not "spreading the idiology". This is just one delusional dead person, nobody is listening to.

but still entertaining. the Idea is kinda funny as comments show

[–]Remarkable_Weather21 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sally died this year

i was thinking this year is horrible thats the second thing i like about this year

[–]dingoperson2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

39 years old - is far less than Nazism.

But her ideology didn't die with her: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Miller_Gearhart

"Gearhart does not base this radical proposal on the idea that men are innately violent or oppressive, but rather on the "real danger is in the phenomenon of male-bonding, that commitment of groups of men to each other whether in an army, a gang, a service club, a lodge, a monastic order, a corporation, or a competitive sport." Gearhart identifies the self-perpetuating, male-exclusive reinforcement of power within these groups as corrosive to female-led social change."

So this monstrous fuckshit proposed the ideology that has led to incredible suffering for a mass of men who ended up committing suicide - the systematic destruction of male support networks, male friendship networks, male meeting places. For decades they were ridiculed, attacked and dismantled, until nothing was left - the same spaces men were able to let down their guard, share emotional burdens and speak about their feelings. In part thanks to this fantastic antihuman bitch.

Good people should have dealt with her the way Germany dealt with Joachim von Ribbentrop if she was still alive.

"The idea is kinda funny" - like you would find eliminating Jews to be funny?

[–]Jinthd 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the ideology that has led to incredible suffering for a mass of men who ended up committing suicide

what mass of men?? systematic destruction of friendship networks? what are you talking about? Or are you sad, that the epstein-clique is now gone?

And if Sally is saying that secret societies with a lot of power are a threat to society in general, I would agree. She is talking about parralell societies in armies (parts of german SEK were a fascist group and were lifted by the goverment), she talks about street gangs, she talks about churches where rapists just get another job elsewhere and she talks about illuminati-style lodges in politics and such. that all is a threat to society, would you not say?

Yes, Sally's idea is a silly one and kind of funny. Like, go through the whole idea of her: no more sience and men reduced to 10% (without sience) only by the united unconcious desire of women to be among themselves. No murder, only time passing by. Just plane stupid.

But stupid ideas are just ideas. Ribbentrop got lynched for his actions and I hope his spine did not break.

And yes, Sallys jazz is dieing with her. her books are not talked about. no one is making films about them. I am interessted in feminism and have never heared about her.

[–]MyLifeHurtsRightNow -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It is a joke, but I understand why this can be hurtful. I'm sorry that these things make you see feminists poorly.

[–]Dllrisin 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It has to be joke, because feminists strive for true equality, right?

[–]maxlvb 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I guess you think all these things that the leaders and founders of third wave feminism say about men are a joke as well...

But hey you're right! Feminism is a joke that so many women (like yourself) desperately believe in.


  • Man-hating is everywhere, but everywhere it is twisted and transformed, disguised, tranquilized, and qualified. It coexists, never peacefully, with the love, desire, respect, and need women also feel for men. Always man-hating is shadowed by its milder, more diplomatic and doubtful twin, ambivalence.

Judith Levine

  • I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.

Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor

  • The nuclear family must be destroyed… Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process.

Linda Gordon, Feminist

  • I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.

Andrea Dworkin, Feminist

  • Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage.

Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW

  • Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice.

Andrea Dworkin, Feminist

  • The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist.

Ti-Grace Atkinson, Feminist

  • Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.

Susan Brownmiller, Feminist, Against Our Will p.6

  • Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated.

Catherine MacKinnon, Feminist

  • The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.

Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future – If There Is One – Is Female

  • If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males.

Mary Daly, Feminist

  • And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference.

Susan Griffin, Feminist, Rape: The All-American Crime

  • If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them.

David Angier, Feminist

  • Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience.

Catherine Comins, Asst Dean at Vassa, Feminist.

  • As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women…he can sexually molest his daughters… THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE.

Marilyn French, Feminist Author

  • I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it.

Barbara Jordan, former Congresswoman, Feminist.

  • Women have their faults / men have only two: / everything they say / everything they do.

Popular Feminist Graffiti

  • “Hatred of men is actually brave and courageous and we need to celebrate the women who are willing to openly display their hatred towards men.”

Psychologist/Feminist. Tracey Brimmer


men need feminism like bicycles need fish.

[–]MyLifeHurtsRightNow 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Rebecca Walker is considered the true founder of third wave feminism, and I don't see any of her quotes :-(. You should read her third wave article, although you may disagree with women's right to a safe environment it has nothing against men. I don't understand what's wrong with Judith Levine's quote; it's true, and a feminist statement. Plus, I'm sorry that you mistake misandry as feminism. Just as Levine said, those are examples of hatred that hurt the true feminist agenda (rather than consist of), rooted in oppression but wrong nonetheless. When people have been abused and/or oppressed they tend to generalize and take out their anger on groups at large. Take, for example, ACAB and BLM; we need reform in the structure of our law enforcement, but, in the rage of centuries of injustice, people become destructive and violent. The ideal is good (we need reform), the expression isn't (throwing a tantrum). In "the battle of the sexes" this can manifest violently (and both men and women are guilty of it for the other, though the former is usually more prevalent).

Plus, the whole anti-family thing irks me, but I've never met a feminist like that in real life. Most women just want to be able to make the choice whether or not to have a child (pretty much have access to proper sex education and birth control). I do know that some women put down other women for being homemakers which I vehmently refute when it comes up (my bad ass mother chose to be a stay-at-home mom of 5; doesn't mean she ain't got a masters and is the strongest woman I know to this day). It's just that some women immediately think that the mother is being forced into being a "baby oven", so they pity-hate. Other women are mean out of jealousy because the work place isn't made for women and/or maternity leave, so they chose to excel in their career, therefore boxing away hopes of being a mother. I've met so many girls who are mean to more feminine girls or women who wear revealing clothing. This is another thing I fight against; we shouldn't be villainizing feminine features, but unfortunately, since women have been made to assimilate to a man's world rather than vice versa, feminine characteristics are seen as a weak and/or unsafe no-no. In the same vein, femininity is usually conflated with stupidity or sexualization, which means that women are more inclined to present masculinely, therefore doing the "jealousy-hate" thing again. The villainization of feminitity touches on a men's issue, and their social "inability" (for lack of a better term) to be feminine/sensitive/etc. I work to make sure that the men around me feel comfortable to truly be themselves no matter how masculine or feminine that is.

You may believe that feminism is a joke (and you have every right based on the "feminist" media you choose to consume. That "mEn SuCk" narrative is stupid af), but as an abstract ideology, it has given women like myself the sense of self worth to stand up in the face of misogyny. And, yes, sexism still exists nearly everywhere! And, of course, there are some parts of society that will forever be geared toward men because of men (i.e. safety), but for the most part I've been told that I'm worth a shit, so when I'm sexually harassed, when I hear men being sexist, I stand up. It's more of an "everyday" thing now, though women's reproductive health is still on the political table. I put feminism into action everyday in favor of both men and women and make a conscious effort both to discuss with misogynists and to de-radicalize false feminists.

By the way, I can add feminst quotes too:

“Women’s liberation is the liberation of the feminine in the man and the masculine in the woman.”- Corita Kent

“I do not wish them [women] to have power over men, but over themselves.”- Mary Wollstonecraft

“Life is not a competition between men and woman. It is a collaboration.”- David Alejandro Fearnhead

“Both men and women should feel free to be sensitive. Both men and women should feel free to be strong…”- Emma Watson

“A woman is human. She is not better, wiser, stronger, more intelligent, more creative, or more responsible than a man. Likewise, she is never less. Equality is a given. A woman is human.”- Vera Nazarian

[–]maxlvb 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Rebecca Walker is considered the true founder of third wave feminism,

Really? Never heard of her until now.

You should read her third wave article, although you may disagree with women's right to a safe environment it has nothing against men.

OK if it's a right to have a 'safe environment' please explain:

Women need their spaces.

Gays need their spaces.

Lesbians need their spaces.

Trans people need their spaces.

Jews need their spaces.

Seniors need their spaces.

Kids need their spaces.

Christians need their spaces

What's wrong with Men needing their spaces?

Plus, I'm sorry that you mistake misandry as feminism.

Misandry is an core ideological dogma of feminism. It's not separate no matter how much feminists try to claim it is...

You may believe that feminism is a joke

It is a complete joke on women as much as it is on men..

(and you have every right based on the "feminist" media you choose to consume. That "mEn SuCk" narrative is stupid af), but as an abstract ideology, it has given women like myself the sense of self worth to stand up in the face of misogyny.

There's nothing abstract about it, and that you use it as some sort of defence to demonise men is very 'revealing'...

You're the perfect example of the 'one true Scotsman'...


So what you're saying is that you, a commenter using a username on an internet forum are the true feminist, and the feminists actually responsible for changing the laws, writing the academic theory, teaching the courses, influencing the public policies, and the massive, well-funded feminist organizations with thousands and thousands of members all of whom call themselves feminists... they are not "real feminists".

That's not just "no true Scotsman". That's delusional self deception.

Listen, if you want to call yourself a feminist, I don't care. I've been investigating feminism for more than 9 years now, and people like you used to piss me off, because to my mind all you were doing was providing cover and ballast for the powerful political and academic feminists you claim are just jerks. And believe me, they ARE jerks. If you knew half of what I know about the things they've done under the banner of feminism, maybe you'd stop calling yourself one.

But I want you to know. You don't matter. You're not the director of the Feminist Majority Foundation and editor of Ms. Magazine, Katherine Spillar, who said of domestic violence: "Well, that's just a clean-up word for wife-beating," and went on to add that regarding male victims of dating violence, "we know it's not girls beating up boys, it's boys beating up girls."

You're not Jan Reimer, former mayor of Edmonton and long-time head of Alberta's Network of Women's Shelters, who just a few years ago refused to appear on a TV program discussing male victims of domestic violence, because for her to even show up and discuss it would lend legitimacy to the idea that they exist.

You're not Mary P Koss, who describes male victims of female rapists in her academic papers as being not rape victims because they were "ambivalent about their sexual desires" (if you don't know what that means, it's that they actually wanted it), and then went on to define them out of the definition of rape in the CDC's research because it's inappropriate to consider what happened to them rape.

You're not the National Organization for Women, and its associated legal foundations, who lobbied to replace the gender neutral federal Family Violence Prevention and Services Act of 1984 with the obscenely gendered Violence Against Women Act of 1994. The passing of that law cut male victims out of support services and legal assistance in more than 60 passages, just because they were male.

You're not the Florida chapter of the NOW, who successfully lobbied to have Governor Rick Scott veto not one, but two alimony reform bills in the last ten years, bills that had passed both houses with overwhelming bipartisan support, and were supported by more than 70% of the electorate.

You're not the feminist group in Maryland who convinced every female member of the House on both sides of the aisle to walk off the floor when a shared parenting bill came up for a vote, meaning the quorum could not be met and the bill died then and there.

You're not the feminists in Canada agitating to remove sexual assault from the normal criminal courts, into quasi-criminal courts of equity where the burden of proof would be lowered, the defendant could be compelled to testify, discovery would go both ways, and defendants would not be entitled to a public defender.

You're not Professor Elizabeth Sheehy, who wrote a book advocating that women not only have the right to murder their husbands without fear of prosecution if they make a claim of abuse, but that they have the moral responsibility to murder their husbands.

You're not the feminist legal scholars and advocates who successfully changed rape laws such that a woman's history of making multiple false allegations of rape can be excluded from evidence at trial because it's "part of her sexual history."

You're not the feminists who splattered the media with the false claim that putting your penis in a passed-out woman's mouth is "not a crime" in Oklahoma, because the prosecutor was incompetent and charged the defendant under an inappropriate statute (forcible sodomy) and the higher court refused to expand the definition of that statute beyond its intended scope when there was already a perfectly good one (sexual battery) already there. You're not the idiot feminists lying to the public and potentially putting women in Oklahoma at risk by telling potential offenders there's a "legal" way to rape them.

And you're none of the hundreds or thousands of feminist scholars, writers, thinkers, researchers, teachers and philosophers who constructed and propagate the body of bunkum theories upon which all of these atrocities are based.

You're the true feminist. Some random person on the internet.

Karen Straughan


The first step in solving the problems with feminism is recognising that feminism is now the problem.

[–]MyLifeHurtsRightNow 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Men need their safe spaces as well, which is something I've actually advocated for in the real world lol. I appreciate you informing me about those wrong things said, but I do have a question. Why are their opinions more important than mine and the hundreds of thousands of women who practice feminism moderately? Why is it my job to forfeit my practice of feminism and let it die at their hands? It reminds me a bit of all those violent, lying, and hateful Christian leaders. Just because they are horrible humans acting in the name of Christ doesn't mean that Christianity is bad. Just because someone acts under the label of something, doesn't mean they are acting in accordance with its true meaning. It's not a "no true Scottsman" because feminism is a term with a very narrow definition. Feminism is literally just advocating for equal rights for women (nothing more, nothing less), but the label has been abused to excuse the hatred of men. I and so many other women are taking back the label, centering it back to its true nature. Plus, if you want to play the game of everyone labelling themselves as a feminist forms what the term itself, why must you exclude the feminists who have done so much good. Like the "Rape is Rape" campaign launched by the Feminist Majority Foundation, advocating for the legal definition of rape to be expanded to include men. Or the MenEngage Alliance, a feminist society that works to advocate for true equality of both men and women.

I do want the source and context of Katherine Spillar's comment. May I see the reciepts for Reimer's refusal and its explicit anti-men nature. The best I got on Mary P Koss is this study, which acknowledges the rape of men. Last I checked the FVPSA was never redacted due to the creation of laws specific to women.

Anywho. I'm too mfing tired for this shit and I got school to get to. Peace my dude. Hope you find what you're looking for.

[–]maxlvb 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men need their safe spaces as well, which is something I've actually advocated for in the real world lol.

Really? Yet here you are, in a predominantly men's sub on reddit, criticising men for discussing all/what is wrong with feminism... That doesn't look like advocating for safe spaces for men to me...

More like:

"Feminism is for men too!"

  • Okay, well as men here's what we struggle with.

"Not everything needs to be about men, alright? Besides, solving women's issues will solve men's issues."

  • Okay, but what about all these men's issues that aren't linked to women's issues?

"Then make your own group and stop whining! God, men can be so fragile."

  • Okay, here's this group we made. We're gonna assemble and talk about men's issues.

"Misogynists! You just want to hate on women! If you really cared about equality you'd be feminists!"

Why are their opinions more important than mine and the hundreds of thousands of women who practice feminism moderately?

Perhaps it's because they're the leaders and founders on feminism as it is today, and you're a follower of the ideology and dogma they've created. That's why there's no such thing as a 'moderate feminist'.

Why is it my job to forfeit my practice of feminism and let it die at their hands?

Because you believe in feminism... Why do you believe in such a hatred of men 'movement'?

Feminism is literally just advocating for equal rights for women (nothing more, nothing less), but the label has been abused to excuse the hatred of men. I and so many other women are taking back the label, centering it back to its true nature.

First wave feminism did wonders for women's equality. Now its simply first world rich white feminists that have never faced real oppression, seeking special treatment that is above and beyond what everyone else gets.

That's exactly the same as focusing on women's issues while not addressing men's issues in the same way. All that does is (naturally) make men that are struggling with their lives wonder what makes women so "privileged" that their issues get a voice and men's dont. It just breeds resentment and contempt.

And. most of all...

Feminists like you like to claim that their movement is about "equality" and often use the dictionary definition as proof.

But what the dictionary says and what feminism and feminists do are two completely different things.

Actions speak louder than words, therefore feminism and feminists should be judged by what it and they do instead of what the dictionary definition says.

And through its actions the feminist movement has constantly shows that it isn't about equality, but is actually about female privilege and misandry - a skewed system in women's favour, seeking superior rights & privileges for women, demonising men & boys.

It is very obvious that "equality" is nothing more than a mask that the feminist movement uses to conceal its female privilege and anti-male agendas.

It's not a "no true Scottsman" because feminism is a term with a very narrow definition.

And here we have the classic no true Scotsman denial... 🤣🤣🤣

Like the "Rape is Rape" campaign launched by the Feminist Majority Foundation, advocating for the legal definition of rape to be expanded to include men. Or the MenEngage Alliance, a feminist society that works to advocate for true equality of both men and women.

When you and every other feminist on the planet are prepared to show the same concerns about false rape accusations, and about the misandry and hate of the #metoo and #believeallwomen feminist hate groups get back to me OK..

As for the 'MenEngage' website, have you ever asked yourself why it is that it's all about men's responsibility to help women, but never about women's responsibility to help men?

It's just another crap anti male pro feminist page saying women have rights, men have responsibilities.

“One of the reasons for the failure of feminism to dislodge deeply held perceptions of male and female behaviour was its insistence that women were victims, and men powerful patriarchs, which made a travesty of ordinary people's experience of the mutual interdependence of men and women.”

Rosalind Coward

Stop speaking for men.

Stop speaking over men.

Stop treating equality as a zero sum game.

Start admitting your privileges.

Start listening to men instead of just waiting for your turn to speak.

Start standing up against the depressingly common, everyday misandry that pervades feminism, and call out false accusers like men are expected to call out rapists.

Then we'll talk, otherwise I'm not interested in being a punching bag.


Feminism is never coming to help men. We no longer need to play nice. What are they gonna do? Not help us even MORE? So to paraphrase Feminists; no dick, no opinion. Fuck off, Big Sister. Men need Feminism like bicycles need fish.

[–]gooseey123 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most feminists you talk to who aren’t absolutely insanely radical don’t want to mass murder men. There are extremists on all sides and most regular feminists and women don’t want to literally murder the male population. Where the fuck did u get this information, it’s just lies. Sorry you can’t walk all over women anymore and get away with it

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