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What do you we want? Equality! When do we want it? Sometime later so we can keep playing the victim!!!

No_Hair_3041

September 16, 2021

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Title	What do you we want? Equality! When do we want it? Sometime later so we can keep playing the victim!!!
Author	No_Hair_3041
Upvotes	327
Comments	102
Date	September 16, 2021 12:30 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/pp2mem/what_do_you_we_want_equality_when_do_we_want_it/
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[+]qyrion -28 points-27 points-26 points 4 years ago (88 children) | Copy Link

Women's sport competitions don't have half the coverage the average, bore me out of my mind, men's events have. Half... I'm being generous. Don't have one twentieth of the coverage.

Give equal coverage to all sports, first, and after that is a thing, we can have this discussion.

Unless someone is an insider of a sport, the average person can't find news about women's events or matches, be we speaking about soccer (it's called football; the american version is rugby in body armor, not football), basketball, judo, mma, gymnastics or synchronized swimming!

I don't agree with the women's team demanding more pay than their male counterpart - that is just unfair, even more if we consider it's a national representation issue being discussed - but women's sports have been considered a side show or a joke, historically. And that is disgusting.

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Ratings and revenue say that. Your subjective opinions about men's vs. women's sports are questionable. I don't watch men's sports and say "you know what would be even better? This, but played by people who are weaker, slower, and less athletic". Elite women's soccer teams lose to teenage boys.

But none of this ultimately maters. For all the effort we spend getting behind the USWNT - which is fine - US women's soccer leagues continue to lose money and fail. The current league used to get subsidies from US Soccer to say afloat (I am not sure what the current state of play is). The WNBA can't grow an audience, loses money, and needs millions of dollars in subsidies from the NBA to keep operating. Women's soccer in England is basically an charity run by men's clubs. Nobody wants it. In general, women's sports products are not as good as their male counterparts. People know this, and ratings and revenue reflect this.

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They know they already have a far better deal than the men.

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Certainly true. I was speaking specifically about these female soccer players vs the male soccer players.

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I'm well aware of the difference but when people start saying equal pay it assumes one can do everything the other can so let's find out. As for them being paid more? Nope, because that is not how businesses work. You can be the absolute best but if you don't bring in the money you won't get paid much and as far as the women's team goes they did not bring in more money than the men until 2016 and even then it was less than 2% more. This was AFTER their win and AFTER all their success, they STILL could not out revenue the men by much. On regular years where the women do not win the men bring in 10-15% more money. Tell me again why the lower earner should get paid more? This might look like an achievement based thing but it's not, it is 100% a business and always has been and until they bring in the revenue to get the power they won't be paid three times more than the men. This is all ignoring the fact that the courts found that taking in all the benefits and their guaranteed pay (for all on the team) the women actually made more money than the men who only get paid if they win.