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Yo guys. So I saw feminist sub are cracking down on r/AntiW0men and other similar subs, which I supported it. I decided to push for equality too. To all feminist here, may you all report and get this sub banned too? I am up for equality after all.

Right_Pepe

November 4, 2021
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Title Yo guys. So I saw feminist sub are cracking down on r/AntiW0men and other similar subs, which I supported it. I decided to push for equality too. To all feminist here, may you all report and get this sub banned too? I am up for equality after all.
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Right_Pepe

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Date November 4, 2021 5:45 PM UTC
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Friend share this with me and I belive this fits here.

485 upvotes
July 22, 2021
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Suddenly, men does not exist

458 upvotes
June 24, 2021
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Stop normalising bad behaviour than blame it on men. Warning: Not the best quality meme.

239 upvotes
June 15, 2021
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NNN jokes aside. It is almost international mens day so I wish us all happy early International mens day. Take care and stay strong.

236 upvotes
November 8, 2021
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Here are the results of Mandatory Paternity Tests results from r/polls. I also add in a few comments I find interesting and may worth thinking about. A bonus in the end too.

224 upvotes
November 3, 2021
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They finally admitted eh?

160 upvotes
July 24, 2021
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This is what modern feminism and modern women refuse to admit when they say it is ok to have sex with anybody you liked. Women, they are destorying you. These comments also dropped truth bombs

115 upvotes
November 9, 2021
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Any opinions?

54 upvotes
September 8, 2021
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Comments

[–]Reddit1984Censorship 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

I cant find the report button where is it?

[–]Right_Pepe 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Idk tbh. I never reported anybody before. I support true freedom of speech even if that person is a total asshole. But when people decides to start censoring one side for something, I will ask them to censored the other side that did the same thing.

Fair's fair.

[–]Glittering_Coffee539 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Hate subs are against Reddits rules so free speech goes out the window there because they agreed to the terms and conditions. You can't report a sub directly I don't think, but you can report the posts and comments in it and enough reports will get it banned. There's been a lot of hate popping up lately and there's no need or place for it.

[–]Right_Pepe 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Plus. You can ban one and they open another one.

Gonna quote Tim Pool. "Freedom of speech is the rights to say what you dislike or hate" reddit rules had always been bias and is a joke.

I believe both sub should exist in the same time as its balance the scale more or less

[–]IvorySoldier 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Hate subs against women are against reddit TOS

Hate subs against men aren't

I'm not joking the rules state that you can't discriminate against any disadvantaged group, so in other words if you're a straight white male then you're not protected by reddits TOS

[–]PsychologicalItem353 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Im a straight mixed male and im still fucked

[–]IvorySoldier 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh ya blacks, asians and gays are still fucked you're just slightly more tolerated than yt peepol

[–]PLOKS- 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How are you disadvanteged by being a woman? (Not u obviously just how someone is?)

[–]IvorySoldier 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They're an oppressed group

[–]PLOKS- 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

By whom and how?

[–]IvorySoldier 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men and???

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Really? Well why has the subreddit been banned then if hate subs against men are acceptable?

[–]IvorySoldier 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What's been banned?

[–]Right_Pepe 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hence I propose this to be removed too because fighting sexism with sexism gets us to no where.

[–]Glittering_Coffee539 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's what I'm saying, that's why I'm trying to give advice on how to report the sub, i.e. get it taken down

[–]yellomachine 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes I agree with you. This is one of those times.

[–]weebupurplecat 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ohh, so that's how you do it! On my way to take down the sub then!

[–]Reddit1984Censorship 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Same for me with my name lmao.

[–]Right_Pepe 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice lol. Censoredship on my opinion will only make things worse and people even more ignorant after all. It is better to let them screech and we reason with them than censoring them only for them to make another group to screech in.

[–]anonymouslionn 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can report individual posts on mobile. I think maybe on pc you can report an entire sub?

[–]FaunaTheFawn 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s not there 🤫

[–]Glittering_Coffee539 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can report the comments and posts, but I don't think there's a report button for subs themselves, enough posts reports on the posts will get the sub taken down

[–]MenHater88888 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Its in ur an*s like ur G-spot

[–]Reddit1984Censorship 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

haha

[–]ManWhoHateMan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Report button up in ur an*s like our G-spot! Now if you stop acting that that subreddit has thrown bleach over your ball, I would appreciate it!

It is an embarrassment to be part of male gender!

[–]Right_Pepe 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hello whiteknight

[–]Insidious-Sid 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link

Reddit is woke. There are different rules for men and women.

ANYTHING they say is sexist that men do is sexist and is a ban-able offense.

If women do the exact same thing it's not a ban-able offense.

Woke people believe in the "only oppressors can do bad things, m'kay" dogma.

Woke people believe, truly, that "social justice" isn't about ending injustice, it's about payback, and "getting our turn". (That's not social justice, that's called revenge.)

One thing feminists should know though. The deeper you push these seeds in the ground, the bigger the trees that eventually spring up will be. You can try and silence voices that want to be heard, and in the short term, you might even win.

But long term, that will just cause the pressure to increase.

[–]Right_Pepe 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Excatly. I know some of them say it is uses to combat the antiwomen sub but the way they are proposing now it to fight sexism with sexism. The first thing male look at the sub is not "wow, strong and empowering". No, the first think they saw is sexism.

Now. I propose 3 ways.

That sub be banned together with antiwomen

That sub removed themself since antiwomen had beend banned.

Or both co exist.

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

There was another anti-male sub that got banned straight away. Quit with the “rEdDiT wOkE sO rEdDiT aLLoW FeMaLe pRiViLeGe” bullshit. The anti-w0man sub was up for days before it was banned.. and it was literally posting content and videos of women being murdered and rape. The anti-m3n sub literally only has one photo of a chair.

[–]Right_Pepe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

Reddit is not woke is total bullcrap. Tell me why is r/againstmensrights is still up while r/againstwomenrights had been taken down for more than 14 times.

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[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

Because r/againstmensrights isn’t against men’s rights.. it’s against the MRM community. You are literally participating in an anti-feminist subreddit. You cannot be that dense.

[–]Right_Pepe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

Maybe because r/mensrights always try to backdown to trolls and WK reddits mods. r/antifeminism mostly critize most feminist bullcrap that r/mensrights seems to sometime refuse to touch.

And, like i said. That is equality. If they can have anti mens rights. We can have anti womens rights.

I thought feminism is all for equality.

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

Again, the comparison you are making is incredibly vacuous.

The reason the r/againstmensrights subreddit exists isn’t because it’s against men’s rights, it’s because it’s against the r/mensrights subreddit, otherwise known as the men’s rights movement, which is the opposing side of feminism.

You already have the equivalent of r/againstmensrights... and it’s called r/antifeminists. It’s just a difference in the name for both movements. If the men’s rights movement was renamed to “meninism”, the subreddit would be called r/againstmeninism instead.

r/againstwomensrights wasn’t against a particular ideological movement – it's literally against women having rights. The r/againstmensrights subreddit isn’t against men having rights. That’s the differences between the two.

[–]Right_Pepe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am angry at the fact how quick they are to banned against women rights. That is what I am really mad at.

[–]SAMMYYYTEEH 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

You already have the equivalent of r/againstmensrights... and it’s called r/antifeminists.

Eh?

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

r/againstmensrights ≠ r/Mensrights

r/antifeminists ≠ r/feminism

[–]SAMMYYYTEEH 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, so its not equivalent lol

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

How? 💀

[–]Wildhouse83 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

First member of this sub: the government

[–]thubtop 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is a silly war of censorship. Let these maniacs talk. I am against feminism and its effects on society, that's why I am here. I am not anti-woman, and I would not interact with people who are anti-men. They just prove a point, that feminism is really about power, not equality. Anti-X means one is a racist, sexist, etc., one want to re-establish concentration camps or gulags and destroy society. However, free speech is mandatory.

I would prefer if reddit simply would not allow banning and such. Then one could actually answer to bad opinions. Not just sit in one of the babbles and agree with each other.

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The anti-w0man sub was up for days before it was banned.. and it was literally posting content and videos of women being murdered and rape. Why would you want that up?

[–]thubtop 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I do not want that up. I do not want to discuss who to ban. Social media created entirely new problems for discussions, I know :-) Ideological bias is everywhere, I know :-) I cannot solve these problems.

As I said, ideally, I want banning banned, then I can reply reasonably where it really needs to be heard. I see no meaning in only speaking up among people who share my views anyway, and be banned everywhere else. I have many bans on myself :-D

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This sub was satire and created in response to the anti women sub. But u males just want to leap at a chance to claim oppression. Where was the same energy for the anti women sub when they were literally advocating for rape, pedophilic murder of women and girls? You say society has a bias against men. Bullshit. Women’s re still disadvantaged and hatred against women is acceptable. THIS is why we need feminism.! To this day! And maybe forever, because males will never stop being chauvinistic rapists.

[–]thubtop 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You seem to be emotionally destabilised from your nasty ideology (and your hidden sexual desires). And you are just now "claiming oppression" yourself, but externalising all your hysterical hate and anger on your imaginary "enemy". I am not your enemy, but you are obviously my enemy. You are turning everything the wrong way :-)

I won't be your "chauvinistic rapist", as much as you seem to like indulging in this imagery :-D I prefer MGTOW. Women like you do not create any sexual interest in me. I find your likes disgusting and prefer not to see any of you IRL. Even if you are dressed like whores and full of tattoos – this does not attract me.

But I appreciate you came here to discuss, in the sense of not staying in one's own babble. I would like to come over to the feminist subs for honest and respectful discussion, too, but they have banned me since long. – Now try to use real arguments, not just the usual boring claims of being pedophilically raped and discriminated. :-D One cannot take you seriously, if you actually have nothing to say, but only parrot slogans. You are not there in your writing, only your ideology is there. I learned nothing about you and your thoughts, only about your emotional outrage expressed in ideological word music. hatespeech, if you like. That's no way having a dialogue with someone.

[–]Right_Pepe 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The link to the sub is here

[–]leachlurker 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It didn’t lead anywhere

[–]Indigostorm27 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That anti male looks satire with its 6 members

[–]anonymouslionn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s new I think. Knowing the current state of women’s and feminist’s view of men, it’ll grow

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The subreddit was in response to this anti-w0man subreddit. It’s just mimicking the same content to piss off the incels.

The anti-w0man sub was up for days before it was banned.. and it was literally posting content and videos of women being murdered and rape. The anti-m3n sub literally only has one photo of a chair.

u/anonymouslionn

[–]anonymouslionn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s disgusting. God damn, some people are seriously troubled. They desperately need help. They need to be institutionalized asap imo.

[–]Disciple_Of_Cheesus 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Anti-men = Anti-civilization

[–]FaunaTheFawn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My favorite song lyric is from cavetown when he says “what’s it like I’m a female world? I bet it’s just so much better”

The song is boys will be bugs btw

[–]Heterodynist 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, hate all men…That’s perfectly fine. Absolutely nothing wrong with that…Hate any one women or anything about any aspect of women in general and you’re automatically the AntiChrist. Yup, that sure is feminist style equality for you.

[–]Heterodynist 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, hate all men…That’s perfectly fine. Absolutely nothing wrong with that…Hate any one women or anything about any aspect of women in general and you’re automatically the AntiChrist. Yup, that sure is feminist style equality for you.

I agree with the OP’s point of view below. I’m for 100% free speech, EXCEPT when it’s only free for some people and not others. If we get banned or shadowbanned for expressing our point of view, then they need to also, or else no one does. I’m fine with either of those (although I will always prefer the latter of course).

[–]Remarkable_Weather21 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

İt is a response to r/antiwomen a guy did it they copied pasted and maked this no big deal

[–]Right_Pepe 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

I agree but like I said. I am against censoredship. Both side should be taken down or co exist*. So, do take both down. Both are commiting the same crimes and both have to be taken down or both should be left alone.

Fighting sexism with sexism will only lead to more sexism. It is better to remove that sub than proceed to removed antiwomen.

[–]Remarkable_Weather21 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are right about that

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree it should be taken down, but they were not of the same content at all. The anti-w0man sub was up for days before it was banned.. and it was literally posting content and videos of women being murdered and rape. The anti-m3n sub literally only has one photo of a chair.

[–]anonymouslionn -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Wow. Why tf was there even an r/antiw0men sub, Jesus Christ.

Can we not delve deeper into these hateful sides and tribes.

[–]Glittering_Coffee539 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

There's a guy going around this sub lately that keeps getting banned and starting new accounts, that anti woman sub got banned and he went and started a new one. This dude keeps talking about how he loves raping women and posts videos of women being murdered and pictures of women naked and chained up all with captions along the lines of "a woman getting what she deserves" and "how does it feel to not be able to walk alone at night" whether this dude is some sort of shitty troll or serious, keep an eye out for this person, because the stuff is dangerous.

[–]Right_Pepe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We should contact reddit health support instead if that is the case. Dude sounds like the new Jack the ripper or some sort

[–]anonymouslionn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed.

[–]anonymouslionn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Uhmm… that should probably warrant like doxxing/tracking and reporting to legal officials / law enforcement or social workers / mental health services or something

I’m not sure. I don’t agree with that normally, but I think this warrants it?

[–]Glittering_Coffee539 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've just been reporting, and we got some screenshots together and had someone send them into an fbi tip page

[–]anonymouslionn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn. That’s pretty serious shit. As it should be

Even if it’s trolling, it’s pretty pathetic form, and maybe not as serious an issue as if it weren’t trolling, but there’s still some issues there to even do that as a joke

[–]anonymouslionn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck it. Good, let it grow. Let all women become hateful and hate men. Let the men currently involved with women be hated by the own women they’re involved with

Perhaps what I’m saying is, let it all burn. Let all men and women go their separate ways

Let men, especially simps, finally realize they can do without women, at least once they realize women hate them. They only value them based on what they can do for them; what they can provide, resources, services, finances, etc

The paradigm shift that would occur would be astronomical. The entire landscape would change. Likely for the better, but also could possibly be for the worse, and so be it.

Let it collapse.

[–]SimSimmaToronto 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.reddit.com/r/AntiM3n/comments/qmurdt/but_equality_right/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf bet you ill be permabanned

[–]MenHater88888 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are acting that this sub drag ur balls over bleach or something! Calm ur an*s, scrotes!

[+]No-tailor-424 -15 points-14 points-13 points 4 years ago (49 children) | Copy Link

women on a daily basis get cat called and messed with by men. The men don’t get flack for it. Having an anti women subreddit perpetuates the idea that women are inferior and promotes a mindset that is damaging to all women. Having an anti men subreddit is a place to keep women safe and challenges the patriarchal standards. Are either subreddits good? No not at all. Should they both be abolished? Maybe. But the anti women one is much more damaging than the anti men one

[–]Right_Pepe 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Patriarchal lol.

[+]No-tailor-424 -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You laugh but it’s the truth, and idiots like you are only part of the problem

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Shut up, femmie

[+]No-tailor-424 -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Why are you trying to silence someone speaking out for women? As if they haven’t been oppressed enough. Here’s a tip when someone tries to educate you, you ship up and listen and maybe you won’t die an incel

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Shut up, femmie

[–]No-tailor-424 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

And this is why you’ll stay an incel

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't care, My Ideology is way more important than stupid relationships.

[–]No-tailor-424 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Lmaoooooo you just admitted it

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Go to Auschwitz.

[–]MenHater88888 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did a woman cooked ur balls in bleach? LOL

[–]possumpudding -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you want to be loved by someone? Or are you happy with the way your life is?

[–]No-tailor-424 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Eat a dick incel

[–]__pebble____ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

How are women oppressed?

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would say abortion laws are a big one.

[–]No-tailor-424 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Women make up less than 24% of the world’s parliamentarians and 5% of its mayors.

On average, women are paid 24% less than men for comparable work, across all regions and sectors.

Nearly two thirds of the world’s 781 million illiterate adults are women, a proportion that has remained unchanged for two decades.

153 countries have laws which discriminate against women economically, including 18 countries where husbands can legally prevent their wives from working.

Worldwide, 1 in 3 women and girls will experience violence or abuse in their lifetime.

And as u/sinfulcucumber said, abortion laws are a massive one

[–]__pebble____ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Most of the examples you stated are not forms of oppression. Sounds like you just want to force women into positions of power.

Let me give you a reminder of what oppression is. Oppression is defined as: prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control

Notice the word control. In the first world, there are no laws, policies, or elements of control placed against women. In the Middle East and Africa, this story is different, absolutely. But not in the first world. And no, abortion laws do not oppress women. Nobody is being oppressed by standing up and finally saying “we’re not going to let you kill your children without consequence anymore”(and don’t try to derail this into an argument about abortion. The vast majority of scientists agree life begins at conception).

Let me tell you what is oppressive:

In the UK, along with several other European countries, men are excluded from the legal definition of rape, allowing female rapists to ALWAYS walk free.

The UK legislature has been pushing to make misogyny a hate crime, but refuses to do the same for misandry.

In Australia, a group of middle school boys was forced to stand up at an assembly and apologize to the girls for being male.

Men, on average, receive 63% longer sentences than women for the same crime.

If a woman doesn’t want to take responsibility for a pregnancy, Roe v Wade allows her to get an abortion, no problem. But if a man wants to do the same, he’s forced to drain his pockets for alimony, and if he doesn’t, it’s right off to jail.

Selective service has only ever applied to men, and it was only until just now that the United States government began to CONSIDER adding women to the draft.

Men make up the vast majority of the homeless population, yet many shelters are directed towards women exclusively.

Those are real examples of oppression. Women are not oppressed in the first world. In fact, at least since the titanic sinking, women and children have always been put as top priority. It just goes to show, only women, children, and animals are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provides something.

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And no, abortion laws do not oppress women. Nobody is being oppressed by standing up and finally saying “we’re not going to let you kill your children without consequence anymore”

Most scientists agree that biological life begins at conception, which is a misleading representation of the question. Biological life exists, this does not justify anti-abortion laws. When you are forcing a woman to give birth against her will, you are oppressing her fundamental human rights to liberty, privacy, and her bodily autonomy. Using colloquial terms to support your stance won’t provide any merit.

In the UK, along with several other European countries, men are excluded from the legal definition of rape, allowing female rapists to ALWAYS walk free.

The Sexual Offences Act 2003 protects both men and women from serious sexual offending. The legal definition of rape is “non-consensual penetration”, which both women and men are capable of. You do not require a penis to forcibly penetrate someone.

Source

The UK legislature has been pushing to make misogyny a hate crime, but refuses to do the same for misandry.

That’s not an example of oppressive treatment, that’s an example of inequality if misogyny becomes a hate-crime, but it relies on the same arguing point that racism against black individuals is a hate crime, but racism against white individuals is not. Systemic sexism harms women, not men, similar to how systemic racism harms black people, not white people.

In Australia, a group of middle school boys was forced to stand up at an assembly and apologize to the girls for being male.

That’s not an example of oppressive treatment.

Men, on average, receive 63% longer sentences than women for the same crime.

Women, on average, serve longer sentences for domestic homicide despite more likely to act in self-defence

Source

If a woman doesn’t want to take responsibility for a pregnancy, Roe v Wade allows her to get an abortion, no problem. But if a man wants to do the same, he’s forced to drain his pockets for alimony, and if he doesn’t, it’s right off to jail.

Women can biologically become pregnant. Men cannot. Transgender men who can biologically become pregnant have an equal right to terminate their pregnancy. Abortion isn’t an alternative to parenthood, it’s an alternative to pregnancy and childbirth. Relinquishment of parenthood is only an additional benefit as the result of abortion. It is a bodily autonomy issue. Additionally, men have the right to terminate their parental rights providing that they do so accordingly through the court system.

Also, learn what alimony is.

Selective service has only ever applied to men, and it was only until just now that the United States government began to CONSIDER adding women to the draft.

That’s not an example of oppressive treatment. Men are not drafted, and haven’t been drafted since the 1970’s, a time when rape and domestic violence was legal and normalised in the US, and women didn’t even have the right to their own finances.

Men make up the vast majority of the homeless population, yet many shelters are directed towards women exclusively.

That’s not an example of oppressive treatment. It’s because men are more likely to experience drug or alcohol addictions, and because women are more vulnerable to abuse on the streets, and are 8 x more likely to be raped while homeless. The primary demographics of those suffering in poverty are women.

In fact, at least since the titanic sinking,

The “women and children first” was only ever implemented on the titanic due to a miscommunication. Majority of survivors on the titanic were men.

Source

It just goes to show, only women, children and animals are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provides something.

Oh shut up. Those are the primary demographics of abused lives across the globe.

Here is a short summary of inequalities women face in the West:

  • Women are vastly under-represented in politics, business, media, and the public sphere in general. This includes leadership roles.

  • Women continue to face sexual harassment within the work-place, especially male-dominated careers such as STEM fields or blue-collar labour.

  • A woman is less likely to be hired for a job than a man, and some private companies extend this to discriminating heavily against female workers due to concerns that she may become pregnant and take family leave.

  • Women face a large amount of discrimination in certain fields such as the military, STEM, and construction. Generally, if a woman is hired in a male-dominated field, she is often met with heavy scrutiny, is assumed to be hired through a quota, and her competence is criticised based on her gender as opposed to her individuality.

  • It's not uncommon for a woman to be taken less seriously in multiple areas of her life, whether it's in the work-place or when she's making a large purchase for a house or a car.

  • Gender roles reinforce the stereotype that men are superior in terms of dominance, strength, capability, and intelligence, while a woman is expected to be inferior in terms of subservient, weakness, submissive, emotional, illogical, and incapable.

  • Women face objectification and hyper-sexualisation from a young age, including double standards in terms of promiscuity.

  • Rates of sexual violence, rape, domestic violence, human trafficking, and sexual (or street) harassment disproportionately affect women and our society often pertains to rape culture.

  • Women are heavily under-represented in medical studies which lead to medical bias and make it significantly more difficult to diagnose women with certain health conditions or mental disorders, such as ADHD and autism.

  • Disparities in pain and treatment in the practice of medicine and ER lead to women more likely to have their medical concerns dismissed.

  • Women lack attentive care in regards to suicidal ideation and behaviour due to these acts being dismissed as 'non-serious', 'suicide-gesture', or 'attention-seeking'.

  • Specific medication is primarily tested on male patients, therefore creating a disparity for women in regards to medical treatment.

  • Women’s rights to their bodies is frequently infringed throughout multiple developed countries, with several restrictions and bans that negatively affect a woman’s right to bodily autonomy.

  • Over-policing issues over the concern of women's clothing in the education system.

  • There is a lack of education on women's bodies and improper teaching of sex education that tends to prioritise male pleasure or reproduction.

  • Women are 73% more likely to suffer fatal injuries in a car accident due to safety procedures in cars being designed for men. This is an example of men being the default in society, as well as medical studies.

  • Nearly every safety invention is designed for the average man; airbags, seatbelts, dosages for drugs, safety bars on roller coasters, etc. Another example of a man being seen as the default.

  • Pink tax cut that affects women's spending and ability to access safe contraception and feminine hygiene products.

  • ⁠The US is one of the only developed Nations in the world that doesn’t mandate paid maternity leave, creating a larger economic gender disparity.

  • ⁠The US has one of the lowest healthcare systems for women’s (reproductive) health, including one of the highest maternal mortality rate.

  • ⁠Purity culture, which is incredibly sexist and while is often mandated by religion, it also exists among those who aren't religious due to sociological consequences.

  • ⁠Several manospheres that perpetuate misogyny that are present within the online system. Incel culture relies on the trope of misogyny, and are subjecting women to their attacks through multiple manifestos and mass killings.

[–]No-tailor-424 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

u/sinfulcucumber pretty much summed everything up. If you disagree with basic facts then please take your uneducated self off the internet and do some research before coming on this app to complain about how “oppressed men are”

[–]__pebble____ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice to see you’re ignoring every part of my comment just to call me uneducated. That tells me you know what I’m saying is right, but you’re too ashamed to admit it.

Prove me wrong. Debunk my comment. I’m waiting.

[–]gr0hlvana 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude what the fuck happened to you? You’ve completely changed and now you’re making up shit about how women are superior to men. Get off the sub cuck

[–]DeadFlowerWalking 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Hahahaha, you can't even recognize your own ignorance and hypocrisy

[–]No-tailor-424 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I think it’s ignorant of you to assume what you go through as a man comes in any way close to everything women go through. You should really educate yourself before making baseless claims

[–]PsychologicalItem353 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Plus having to deal with a way of life where if I do or don't do what a woman wants basically fucked. I cant even have a simple conversation without women (most the time feminists) poping in and judging. Yet if I were to do that to them it is the end of the world. I ha e been slaped scratched hit by women countless times but guess what the world doesn't care but it sure all hell cares when women go through it. Another fucked up this is the whole men should not show feelings. On a usual scale women will be listened to but men would be told to shut the fuck up and grow up... Meaning bottle it up and if you die or it leaks out it leaks out it is your fault and we don't care.

[–]No-tailor-424 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s because men are the ones in power right now. When are just trying to become equal to men and until that happens we have to keep listening to ways we can shorten the gap. Don’t blame women for the shit that men have done in the past

[–]sinfulcucumber -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

On a usual scale women will be listened to but men would be told to shut the fuck up and grow up... Meaning bottle it up and if you die or it leaks out it leaks out it is your fault and we don't care.

This guy is a cuck but.. do you realise just how many times women are disbelieved and accused of lying about their experiences? The grass is always greener on the other side. A national survey conducted that close to half of all people believe that women are lying about their experiences of sexual violence and 1 in 4 believe that domestic violence is justified if the man lashes out due to stress.

[–]VeteranOfDepression 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The funny part of you saying that is, Domestic violence is justified by the media if the woman gets stressed by her lover. Not to mention she's far less likely to get arrested for it too. And it's extremely easy for women to switch the story to a self defense claim, whether she has any evidence to show she was hurt physically or not.

Same thing with men's experiences of sexual violence. When they talk about being sexually assaulted, or even raped by women, they're told "you're stupid for not enjoying the moment." Countries even made it legal to rape a man, because their laws are based around "forced penetration" and don't include "being made to penetrate."

I've talked to people about my experiences with sexual assault and sexual harassment. Do you know how many people told me I was a liar? Zero. Nobody thought I was lying. If I was a man, my friends would have looked at me and told me that I should have enjoyed it, and the women around me would have assumed I was gay for not liking it.

Goddamn, The hypocrisy of your comment is insane.

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That’s my point… victims of sexual violence as a whole are treated with a lack of seriousness. There’s no hypocrisy in my comment. These are statistical polls, which you seem to think your personal experiences outweigh the credibility of the consensus of the general public.

[–]VeteranOfDepression 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Would you mind linking it? While I do agree sexual violence as a whole is taken less seriously, both of us talked about one gender, so I started thinking you only saw women as victims. That's a mess up on my part.

My personal experience was only the bottom. The rest was talking about how women can get away with sexually assaulting, harassing and raping men pretty easily in certain places, and how male victims are made fun of much more often than women.

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, I don’t believe women are the only victims. My issue is with the lax insinuation that women are always believed when they are victims of sexual violence when this couldn’t be further from the truth. Are women taken more seriously than men? Likely. Are they believed more than men? According to my data, women are always manipulative liars that will falsely accuse men of abuse and rape for attention or to ruin his life.

As we are diverging to a society where men are encouraged to speak up about their experiences of abuse, this also comes at an expense to women where we now have men’s rights activists and such that are perpetuating these negative stigmatisations against women and amplifying the mirage of a false rape epidemic in attempts to demonise women and victimise men.

Your personal experiences do not represent the whole scope of the issue. Women share many similar experiences where their reports are not taken seriously by police, they are victim-blamed, or they are accused of lying through examples of statements like “she is lying for attention”, “she shouldn’t have been wearing that”, “she shouldn’t have been drunk”, “she is falsely accusing him so she can get the kids during divorce”, “she shouldn’t have been walking home on her own”, and “she pushed him too far”. I see it all the time, both online and in my personal experiences.

Just to provide my own experiences, I had an Auntie and four-year-old little cousin. Four years old. They were both murdered in a domestic violence dispute by her ex-partner. Do you know what all the comments were on the news articles that covered the dispute? “This happens when women don’t let the father have custody of the kids”, “this is why women shouldn’t alienate their children”, “this is what happens when the courts favour the mother”, “this is a failure on the family courts behalf”. There was zero blame for the man who killed her, but there was definitely blame for the mother and “society”. Do you know what’s absolutely ironic? She was killed while handing her daughter over for visitation, AND he had received multiple police reports of domestic violence, including stalking several of his ex-partners with a cross-bow and being charged with arson.

And if the woman doesn’t leave an abusive situation? She’s met with statements like “why didn’t she just leave?”, “it’s her fault for remaining in the relationship”, “she should’ve reported her experiences to the police”.

It’s a lose-lose situation, and again, the grass is always greener on the other side. Women are subjected to intense scrutiny while a man is accused of “enjoying” his experiences, being told he is weak or effeminate, ridiculed and laughed at, etc. And yes, rape laws are deplorable, but just to correct you for future reference, a woman can still rape a man if she penetrates him with an object, and “made to penetrate” is a form of sexual assault.

As for those sources you asked for...

1 in 5 (21%) people believe that domestic violence is a normal reaction to stress and that sometimes a woman can make a man so angry he hits her without meaning to.

Four in ten people (42%) think sexual assault accusations are a way of getting back at men, according to the fourth National Community Attitudes Survey (NCAS) on violence against women.

[–]VeteranOfDepression 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a woman, I can say confidently that what you said is fucking stupid. Both of those subreddits are equally bad and should be removed. They both run off the same things; "this gender is bad, so we should damage them."

How is a subreddit supposed to "keep women safe and challenges the patriarchal standards"? That's a pathetic excuse of a reason to hate an entire gender, simply because "women get catcalled and messed with by men." I've been catcalled, sexually assaulted/harassed, and messed with before, and I've seen my male friends get catcalled, sexually harassed/assaulted, and messed with women, but none of us hate the other gender because of it.

[–]PsychologicalItem353 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh really I cant even say my girlfriend is beautiful without being called out as a disgusting pervert. And the whole men don't care thing most the time men actually are the ones to care if a dude is messing with a woman.

[–]No-tailor-424 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then why does it keep happening? If men care they’d stop other men from doing it but it still happens constantly, maybe if everyone did their part there wouldn’t be such a negative stigma around men

[–]sinfulcucumber 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cuck

[–]CelticHound27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

You want equality so you get treated equal if anti women places get struck down should anti men. Both groups have disgusting mindsets. Don’t blame everything on the patriarchy it’s a mad cop out

[–]No-tailor-424 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

But it is the patriarchy, it’s created a system where women no longer feel safe and are forced to retreat into these groups. Don’t get mad at women because men backed them into a corner

[–]CelticHound27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I’m not mad at women I’m mad that feminists use a boogie man to excuse their shitty behaviour towards others. Women have the same rights as men the same opportunity and can reach high positions of power.

[–]No-tailor-424 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Maybe they have the same rights but same opportunities is a completely different argument. People’s personal biases get in the way of making proper decisions all the time so it’s not hard to imagine a toxic male refusing to give a women a job because he believes they’re inferior, especially if her intelligence threatens his fragile ego. Women are more educated than ever yet they’re still not making as much as men, and considering men make up the majority of top spots they’re gonna have full control to exercise these insecurities. Not to mention all the people that tell young girls that they’re not as good as men and that they should just focus on being pretty. Equal rights isn’t the main issue here

[–]CelticHound27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Oh how toxic women will blame all the ills of their life without taking responsibility. Men make more cause men work more in the most dangerous jobs and physical demanding jobs. All we ever hear is how women are just as good as men.

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Women make less money

Men: “it’s because of choice”

Men make up less college degrees, less likely to have custody, affected by divorce rates, and choose more dangerous careers

Men: “it’s because we’re oppressed”

[–]CelticHound27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The whole college thing that’s by choice. Custody and divorce is the courts. Men doing the more dangerous jobs well they have the physical ability to do so and I don’t see that many women rushing to do it.

I’m gonna earn more being an underwater welder than someone with a social science degree

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That’s quite literally my point, but I appreciate you recognising the contradiction between the two. Also, only 4% of custody disputes go to trial in family court.

[–]CelticHound27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I hope I dish the same hand to everyone.

[–]reddut_gang 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

die mad incel

[–]__pebble____ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

This is exactly what we mean when we’re talking about double standards. Sexism is never okay, no matter who it’s against. Being “anti-man” is not creating a safe space, and it’s not getting away from the “patriarchy”, it’s exactly what it states. It’s anti-man. And that is just as bad as being anti-woman, it’s just as bad as being anti-black, anti-white, anti-gay, anti-straight, all other forms of bigotry. Stop defending this shit.

[–]No-tailor-424 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You do realise that sub was made as a response to the anti women sub reddit? And even with that being true they still refused to stoop the level that men went down to. The subs specifically a safety net, not a way to bash men. You’d know that if you spent any time on it. The names misleading but that’s only because, like I said it’s a response the women sub reddits

[–]__pebble____ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don’t care why it was made. ALL bigotry is wrong. If you can’t agree with that statement, you need to take a break from social media and do some self reflection.

[–]sinfulcucumber 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy is trolling you lmao

[–]No-tailor-424 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There’s a clear difference between bigotry and a safety net. There was hate behind the sub men made, there protection behind the one the women made. If you can’t agree with that then you need a break from social media

[–]__pebble____ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bigotry is not a safety net. Hating a certain group of people for their demographic has never and will never be a safety net. Stop defending blatant bigotry.

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