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Blackman's life tossed away at a woman's word. Woman not punished

redplanet11

December 4, 2021

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Title	Blackman's life tossed away at a woman's word. Woman not punished
Author	redplanet11
Upvotes	126
Comments	34
Date	December 4, 2021 1:51 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/r8q3db/blackmans_life_tossed_away_at_a_womans_word_woman/
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[–]Selfmade_3127 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[+]velvetalocasia -14 points-13 points-12 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

[–]redplanet11[S] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

[+]velvetalocasia -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

You leave out all the key points.

Alice Sebold was raped and she reported that right away. Physical evidence was gathered.

She did report 5 month later that she saw a man near campus, that she believed to be the rapist. But the police could not find him when they went looking, so they arrested Mr. Broadwater because a police officer suggested that he often was seen near campus (for some reason he was known to the police).

She picked another man in the lineup but the DA moved to trail anyway.

Forensics then said that they could tie the suspect to her rape via „hair analysis“ (which was forensic science at the time of the trial and was regularly used). Because of that not only the DA believed this case to be water tight but Alice Sebold as well.

This specific method of hair analysis was later discredited (that’s why the DA in your video talks about bogus science) and today it’s not considered reliable forensic science anymore.

It’s highly unethical to claim Alice Sebold lied to put an innocent man into prison. There is no evidence for that at all. Why would she have wanted to do that? She didn’t even knew him before.

The only thing that you might accuse her of is that she wasn’t able to tell one black man apart from another and that is neither a crime nor a lie.

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The man who she alleged greeted her was Broadwater. He stated he wasn’t greeting her, he was greeting a police officer behind her. The police officer later corroborated his story in court (Sebold suspiciously left that out of the book)

She testified against Broadwater despite the fact she failed to identify Broadwater in a police lineup. In court, she identified him as her rapist, even though she wasn’t sure. She essentially perjured herself to convict a man of rape. After the trial she wrote a book about the ordeal, purposely misrepresented the trial, and made millions. In the book she lied and pretended to be confident of Broadwater’s guilt

"I knew his face had been the face over me in the tunnel. Knew I had kissed those lips, stared into those eyes,"

At the very least she’s a terrible human being who made money off another person’s suffering. She made an innocent man live 40 years as a convicted rapist, she’s almost as bad as her rapist.

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The forensic evidence was one of two pieces of evidence that resulted in Broadwater’s rape conviction. The main piece of evidence that got him convicted was Sebold’s testimony. Her positive ID sealed his fate. Without her testimony, Broadwater would have had a fighting chance.

Did you see the lineup picture did look quite similar

They look nothing alike. They’re not even the same height. Broadwater was easily 3-4 inches taller than the man she picked. She also said the man she IDed “had” to be her rapist because of the “look in his eye”. So she really didn’t know who raped her and only testified against the main suspect to get quick justice.

Sebold recently apologized (not really though) only because the facts of the case became publicly known. She was already privy to these facts for 40 years, in fact she wrote an entire book about it and purposely left out discrepancies that were present during the trial (discrepancies she was well aware of). She knew the case against Broadwater was flimsy at best and that her identification of him was flawed, yet she did nothing for him. She cared more about earning money from a wrongful conviction than she did about a man’s innocence.

[–]genkernels 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

So we leave out that she was told that forensic evidence tied him to her rape

The "forensic evidence" was the main reason for his conviction.

Forensic evidence was a hair analysis. You could match that to 3M people in the US even if it were done properly, and with the lab's technique, possibly 15M people. The sort of forensic analysis done was not the sort of analysis that could ever have possibly uniquely identified a person in the best of cases, all it could have done (if done properly, which it wasn't) is add circumstantial evidence to testimony. There are sorts of forensic evidence that stand alone from testimony. Hair analysis is only an add-on to testimony or video. No, the forensic evidence could not have possibly been the main reason for conviction.

Saying that you recognize someone in court when you proved yourself to not recognize them in a lineup test prior to court is perjury and nothing can mitigate that, even if the person accused was actually guilty. Being fed a mistaken statement prior to testimony does not suddenly absolve you of the responsibility to testify truthfully.

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