Politicians can’t hear what men don’t say. An interview with Ann Widdecombe. — The Centre for Male Psychology

g1455ofwater · 2022-02-22T02:50:04+00:00

She talks about how Woman/feminists campaigned for stuff in the 70's but they didn't have to deal with the same level of shaming and demonization that men do. The shame used against women tends to be looking down on them but the shame men deal with now is marking men as evil. Even an incel(which is someone that needs help) is looked upon as evil. The media also is against men and coordinated at a level it's never been before which is another unique challenge men face.

Most of the stuff in the interview was good but it reads mostly as her just basically being fair on things where men have been denied fairness. But in a world where most political people are anti-men a political person that plays it fair can feel like a men's rights supporter.

I liked a couple of things the interviewer said:

"“men’s greatest weakness is their facade of strength. Women's greatest strength is their facade of weakness". When you are the victim you can forever ‘punch up’ – literally and politically – and feel good about it. You never have to worry you have done the wrong thing, because you are always the victim."
"JB: But given there exists a Minister for Women, would a Minister for Men provide balance?

AW: What would provide balance would be getting rid of a Minister for Women. I don't think there should be one"

I never heard that 1st saying but it's a good one. On the point 2 he goes to show why men react the way they do, because society won't admit the women's minister doesn't make sense so then it becomes the practical move to add a men's minister.

tenchineuro · 2022-02-22T01:24:07+00:00

Flat out and categorically disagree.

Politicians don't hear what men do say. They really don't care.

EDIT: Why thank you kind stranger.

OldEgalitarianMRA · 2022-02-22T02:13:17+00:00

I think speaking up has it's rewards:

Default 50/50 custody is becoming more and more common.

Kangaroo Courts have been dealt with by Betsy DeVoos

Andrew Yang cries out about how badly boys and men are doing in college

The word "misandry" is catching on more and more, seen in articles.

I can't think of anything that the MRM aimed for that hasn't made some progress.

We even had selective service up for national debate this year.

UnconventionalXY · 2022-02-22T02:37:42+00:00

How can men be heard when they are shouted down by women desperate to cling onto their privileges,using ad hominem, strawman, gaslighting and other argument tactics that are never called out; threatened with false allegations if they defy what women want; by women using implicit extortion in their power over access to sex to suppress what men want; villifying men who have to fight the villification before they can speak about their issues; women acting as victims attracting all the attention away from mens issues and against men; and women plus white knights now being a majority against men?

Men are speaking in this and other forums, but the politicians don't care because men are in a minority.

GreerJohnson · 2022-02-22T01:29:45+00:00

She's lying.

Justathrowawayoh · 2022-02-22T15:46:24+00:00

Men do say all those things. You don't get this excuse Ann Widdecombe. This isn't about a lack of talking. The truth is far darker than Widdecombe's copout: society does not give a fuck about male suffering until it significantly affects them.

As long as enough men are being fed into the woodchipper of dumb ass wars, mines, and factories, the ruling elite are perfectly happy. When they start to run out of draft horses is when they care.

Now is the time when that's happening. Men are simply dropping out. They're dropping out of the workforce, they're dropping out of colleges, and they're dropping out of the dating/marrying markets. They would prefer to live without producing excess for others to steal or otherwise live off of. We already see the effects of that now.

Notice the quickening pace of your shitlib/tradcon gynocentric writer lambasting men with "man up!" and "where are all the good men?!" articles. Do not sacrifice yourself or your desires for the benefit of a society or ruling elite who hates you and is replacing you or a partner who essentially does the same.

ImplodedPotatoSalad · 2022-02-22T23:59:10+00:00

And again, a woman talking on topics that she should listen instead.

Title	Politicians can’t hear what men don’t say. An interview with Ann Widdecombe. — The Centre for Male Psychology
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