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how do you cope with rape statistics without admitting that some men might be bad?

themarzipanbaby

March 9, 2022

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Title	how do you cope with rape statistics without admitting that some men might be bad?
Author	themarzipanbaby
Upvotes	0
Comments	21
Date	March 9, 2022 9:55 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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Honestly, this is spot on.

Thing a happen to men and we just don't say anything. I've had similar experiences to this and I once had a mates ex litterally force herself on me. I threw her across the room several times and she just came back laughing.

Next day she was like "How you gonna explain that your dicks been in my mouth".

Truth is I cant, I never have cos of the way we judge other men.

Apparently if i get it up I am a willing participant. But i assure you being turned on and wanting to be turned on are not the same thing.

And like this dude I am not traumatised, I know i did the right thing. I just get on with my life.

Of I played that card, I'd be laughed at. Let's be honest.

Nobody laughs when a girl gets raped.

Let's face facts there is bad in all genders, races, nations and religions. More men do commit violent and sexual crimes. But i assure you many women lie and seek to punish others in the most head fucked way. I'd take a punch off a bloke any day over have a women do her best with a mind fuck game.

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But it‘s the exact same, the other way around. I don‘t think there is a woman in my life that hasn‘t been sexually harassed or assaulted, but I only know of one that actually did report it.

Yeah, unwanted sexual touch is a fact of life. Everyone has had it happen to them. Literally almost every single person.

It is almost exclusively men who get punished for it.

I don‘t see the historical influence leading up to female rapists. What would be the motive here?

Basic human horniness is the motive.

Another story from my life. Eleven years ago, I'm playing Skyrim, and my girlfriend comes in and giggles and says "I'm horny. Let's have sex."

Well, I was about to level Smithing up to 100, so I said "Nah, not right now."

And she said "Come on!" and grabbed my dick and started trying to jerk on it, thinking this would cause me to be overcome with lust for her.

But all I was was annoyed, so I got up and put on a belt and went to the casino.

Well, that's where the story ends.

But if you reverse the genders in the story, it occurs to me she would have had several friends saying: he raped you. You clearly said no, and he put a finger in your pussy. That's rape. Clear-cut rape.

Would I have been arrested? Probably not. But maybe! Definitely a non-zero chance. I'm pretty sure her friend Jill believes all men should be in prison. If she got ahold of a gender-swapped version of this story, she would want to destroy my life.

Would I have lost all my friends? Maybe! Definitely a non-zero chance. Jill can do a lot of damage with just a Facebook account.

There have been absolutely no consequences for my girlfriend's sexual assault - and I don't think there should be! It isn't a big deal!

But the double standard is amazingly clear.

[–]Head-Medium-3007 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Myth #4: Husbands were owed sex with their wives. Marital rape was not illegal, and marriage as an institution was based around rape of women.

The idea at the time was that there could not be such a thing as marital rape because as a married person you are owed sex from your spouse, i.e. conjugal rights. This applied to both men and women. People who believe that conjugal rights "allowed husbands to rape wives" and not the other way around haven't actually done any research.

It was based on the idea that both parties had a right to sex in the relationship, and this was exercisable in law by each partner in a marriage.

The Bible said:

"It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2 Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control."

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+7&version=NKJV

Do note the specific passage where it says "The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does."

And here's a quote from an article detailing the history of sex and marriage.

"A hundred years ago or so, if you took the statute books literally, the only people entitled to have sex with each other were people who were legally married. All other sex was against the law. Fornication (sex with unmarried people) was illegal; so was adultery (sex with a married person—but not the person you yourself were married to). Cohabitation—living with someone in a sexual relationship—was against the law, except for people who were legally married. Enforcement was, shall we say, something less than perfect. At times, it was almost nonexistent. And the rules were riddled with exceptions. Sodomy, on the other hand, was quite a serious crime; and the full weight of the law sometimes came down heavily on people who had gay or lesbian sex."

"Married people were not only entitled to have sex; they were, in a way, required to have sex. Of course, nobody checked on whether John and Mary were having sex every night, or once a week, or once a month, or never. But if either John or Mary did not perform at all, for whatever reason, the frustrated partner had grounds for divorce; or even perhaps an annulment.

https://verdict.justia.com/2017/01/24/sex-necessary-legally-speaking

Husbands faced divorce if they were impotent and unable to consummate the marriage, though charges were usually made years after the wedding day. There was a similar charge of frigidity for wives, but it seems that wives charging their husbands for impotency was far more common. Husbands had to show an erection to a court audience and sometimes attempt to perform sex with their wives as well.

Source 1 Source 2

Being incapable of performing sex for your wife could merit corporal punishment. One medieval husband wrote about his unhappy marriage and his impotence in a book called The Lamentations of Little Matheus.

"My wife wants it, but I can’t. She petitions for her right. I say no. I just can’t pay."

"Even given his sexual incapacity, Matheolus was subject to corporal punishment:

"Acting as her own advocate, Petra {Matheolus’s wife} puts forward the law that if a shriveled purse {scrotum} can’t pay because it’s empty, under statute recompense for that injury is corporal punishment."

https://www.purplemotes.net/2015/05/03/matheolus-church-wife/

So what does this show? It shows that both parties had an obligation to provide the other partner with sex during the marriage, and could not deprive their spouse of it. If it was an issue, it was not an issue that solely affected women.

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