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Incels aren't to be laughed at – they're only going to get more dangerous

BrokeMacMountain

April 25, 2022
26 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/25/incels-arent-to-be-laughed-at-theyre-only-going-to-get-more-dangerous-16531003/
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Title Incels aren't to be laughed at – they're only going to get more dangerous
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BrokeMacMountain

Upvotes 26
Comments 55
Date April 25, 2022 7:40 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ubtiah/incels_arent_to_be_laughed_at_theyre_only_going/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/incels-arent-to-be-laughed-at-theyre-only-going-to.1113443
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Comments

[–]BrokeMacMountain[S] 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

If you were hoping to find a story about all the crazy in a feminists head, then this is it! Its is so utterly disgustingly insulting, and plain wrong. It take the view that all women are lovelly, and men are problematic.

This is what we are up against.

[–]elebrin 39 points40 points41 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

They aren't wrong though.

If you take a marginalized group of people and tell them they are human garbage and cut them off from love and and human companionship systematically for their entire lives, they will radicalize.

Single women shun these men, married women shun these men, and plenty of married women don't allow their husbands to be friends with unmarried and unattached men or men (in general) that they don't approve of. The only friends these guys have are others who think the way that they do. After being treated like dirt long enough they become instantly defensive and distrusting with anyone outside of their circle.

After enough times being told that you are terrible, rapist-to-be, violent sociopath, or whatever else they want to accuse you of you begin to believe it and you start to act out what others think of you. It's a brilliant way to fuck up any young person to tell them that they are irredeemably bad and that's just how it is.

Except, there are some men – and boys – who take this blatant everyday misogyny one step further. Those determined to hurt, maim, punish, rape and murder women because, well… they’re women.

No. Wrong. Incorrect. They are determined to hurt, maim, punish, rape, and murder women because they have been told their entire life that they aren't entitled to love, that nobody will ever love them, and that nobody cares because they are another dime-a-dozen boy or man. They have been told this by women specifically.

It's too late for the ones that are out there. The least you could have done is not deprive them of their fathers and uncles, so maybe they can learn to be something other than useless. Or, you know, teach them to be something else. But no - you ignored your sons. You made sure that he had to share EVERYTHING with sister while she had some things of her own or the girls in the class. Any time something went wrong, it was HIS fault. If he met with a TINY bit of success, you expected more of it in spades and got pissed when that didn't happen. When he had trouble at anything at all, you made it a BIG fucking deal and used it as evidence that he was a shitstain on humanity.

[–]throwaway202108215 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Except for talk at the end about how 'misogyny' should be made a hate crime, it doesn't take the view that women are lovely and men are problematic. It takes the view that men that participate in officially recognized 'incel' spaces and forums (not those on reddit, but actual such forums that are advertised as and openly geared towards 'incels') are problematic.

Nowhere in this article does it suggest that MRA forums are equivalent to or related to 'incel' spaces. If it did, it would make mention of "MRA" or 'men's rights' like some articles that actually do try to make this association. It doesn't even make much mention of anti-feminism or claims that anti-feminism and misogyny are a definite gateway to incels like other articles often do.

[–]Razorbladekandyfan 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I also dont understand why this is posted here when they mention neither MRAs. it's like some people on this sub want to make incels the face of the MRM, trust me that won't do this sub nor other men's rights subs any good. r/menkampf was recently banned too despite being a satire sub and association with 'incels' has been any easy way to get anti-feminist subs banned in the past

[+][deleted] -20 points-19 points-18 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

What exactly is wrong with that? Are you saying incels don’t act this way?

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

You ever think some of em are just damaged and traumatized people who only ever got criticism every time they tried to get help?

Edit: this fuckin troll got the nerve got the nerve to report me for harresment after I blocked him and he used 2 other accounts to harass me more anybody reads this help me out

[+][deleted] -15 points-14 points-13 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Is that an excuse for aggressive behavior?

[–][deleted] 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What? It’s hard to understand what you said without punctuation?

[–][deleted] 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are you so upset?

[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like you could use a girlfriend. Cute post history.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Get a life beyond trolling this sub

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of assumptions about incels. Incel literally means involuntary incelibate. There are many incels out there, most of whom won't identify as an incel. A study in the UK showed 1 in 8 26 year olds were virgins.

[–]buried_alive0 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just stop treating men like shit and destroying their lives and you won't make incels anymore.

[–]rainbow_bro_bot 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm not disabling my ad-blocker to read a metro article.

Anything interesting about it or is it just more public hysteria about "incels"?

[–]buried_alive0 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most likely the latter, like all articles about incels are.

[–]BrokeMacMountain[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty much just more hysteria about incels. The author has the point of view that women are sensible level headed innocents, while men are disturbed and wrong, and problematic.

Just more man bashing

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago* (14 children) | Copy Link

Many incels might be dealing with underlying trauma and don't know where to turn for help, so they join the incel culture.

I'm not defending them, but just saying that lack of mental health and abuse services for men might be the primary contributing factor to incel culture.

[–]pielok 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

whats the problem with incels again?

[–]rainbow_bro_bot 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I also really don't understand the whole "incel" thing. Sexually inactive men are dangerous to society?

[–]pielok 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

its a form of shaming men into providing for bum women as far as Im concerned.

[–]Daveycracky 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m curious too. Involuntary Celibate, had to look it up. Dudes that don’t get laid. Okay, not a new movement here. So what is the counterpart? Modern feminists? Sort of tongue in cheek, but mostly serious. I’m late to the party I guess, but are they not the same thing? And if so, can’t we just organize a barn dance, toss in some booze, and all the people with people skill issues can figure their shit out?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I might have overgeneralized in addressing the more extreme cases.

If a man is involuntarily celibate but still respects others' boundaries, then I have no problem with that.

[–]pielok 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

not an issue worth mentioning.. when there are men and boys getting chopped in half forced to stay in a meat grinder and yet there is more attention to this.. the author of the article looks unfuckable herself and she’s gone on a rant about incels.. the irony

[–]r2o_abile -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I might have overgeneralized in addressing the more extreme cases.

You did and frankly, should do better.

  1. Incel is a gender neutral term. It just means "involuntary celibate". It applies to men and women.
  2. Automatically addressing extreme people who have been labelled "incels" continues and normalizes the trope.

[–]BrokeMacMountain[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Incel is a gender neutral term

You say that, but i have to see it applied to women. Not once have i read an article, or listened to a report on the news where a woman labelled an incel.

So no, incel is not really gender neutral.

[–]r2o_abile 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Incel is gender neutral. People with agenda are trying to make it gendered and you are playing right into their hands.

[–]BrokeMacMountain[S] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

While you claim 'incel' is gender neutral, I have never yet seen to woman. And I sincerely believe I never will. And this is my whole issue with the "message" being spun in the media. That only men are incels, and only men are problematic, and only men need to change.

This, in my opinion, is the real threat facing us.

[–]r2o_abile -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

By continuing with their language, you are furthering their ideals.

A similar example is how "real" feminists do not call themselves "cis". They refuse to further the agenda they disagree with through acknowledging their language.

[–]limi453 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

femcel

[–]TAPriceCTR 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They don't just die in the field like good little pariahs. Being hurt by complete social rejection is for humans, not unattractive men.

To be clear this is not my personal outlook. Freaking Poe's law.

[–]IWantToGiverupper 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've known a few, used to be absorbed in the internet. Never liked the culture but I found them interesting because.. why?

Anyway, most grew up without a good father figure. Most also didn't have a social life, and were honestly socially inept. A lot were very book smart, but socially they were baboons.

There were some with trauma, but honestly I'd say most of it came from neglect from all sides -- family friends and peers.. their fault? Their actions yes, but as a society we are quick to judge and shun people.

[–]TAPriceCTR 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine if society treated land whales with the same disdain they treat Incels... they would double the female perpetrated homicide rates. Meanwhile there have been, what? 2? 3? Lethal documented incel attacks?

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Remember guys, evil or not evil, who caused the existence of incels? Patriarchy? Hell no, feminists did...

[–]Hour-Mission7829 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i think societal stigma against virgins caused them

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also yes! And btw feminism augmented this stigma a bit I think.

[–]TAPriceCTR 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not really. Women have always create Incels by being unattracted to the bottom portion of men. with or without feminists, women marry up which will inevitably leave some men unmatched. But by convincing women to not even acknowledge the suffering this puts Incels through, feminists have radicalized them.

[–]jamesbwbevis 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Online dating and feminism has caused women to be way more picky and thus way more incels than ever before though

[–]TAPriceCTR 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree there are more.

[–]LiquidDreamtime -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Huh? Incels are hyper-misogynists who subscribe to patriarchal ideals in regard to women.

Exactly zero feminist men are incels. Incels are a direct result of the patriarchy in every way.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Go back to feminist sub reddits ty

[–]LiquidDreamtime -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You’re inability to understand what creates incels has nothing to do with feminism or men’s rights.

Incels, the subculture that these men subscribe to, is violent hyper-misogyny. They hate women, they hate most men, they hate themselves. They focus on the patriarchal physical definition of a “man” (jawline, muscles, Dick size, wrist size (lol), height, etc etc) and claim they will never meet this standard.

Incels need help, they need to be de-radicalized. Their belief system is extremely patriarchal. Feminism has nothing to do with them.

[–]Many-Lingonberry-517 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

i thought incel meant people who couldn't get laid.

[–]LiquidDreamtime -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Technically it stands for “involuntary celibate”. Meaning a person who is celibate because of circumstances rather than choice.

But “incel” as a descriptor is much more than that. There are online communities, and an entire subculture of incels who exist in a destructive cycle of “support”. They have their own lexicon that demeans nearly everyone except other incels (Chad, Stacy, foids, normies, etc). They often celebrate mass murderer Elliot Rodger. They often subscribe to “red pill” and “black pill” bullshit. They are extremely misogynistic and often sexualize their own sisters and mothers, calling them filthy hateful names.

Incels are a disgusting hate group. The redeemable ones need help. The worst ones need to be isolated/silenced.

[–]Many-Lingonberry-517 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

to be fair red pill content is mostly based on trying to tell men to stay alert in modern times and how to be the best of themself.

black pill content as i have heard is people who have mostly lost hope in dating and are wary of women(due to false cases etc.)

and the ones you are taking about don't just wake up and go "let's hate women" it's mostly due to them being shunned or in your words"isolated"

[–]LiquidDreamtime 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Or maybe they’re just entitled little nerds who are mad that no one likes them. And instead of some introspection and actual self improvement, they blame women.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some of them yes.

[–]MagnanimousPenis 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are so dumb I can’t even put it into words. I hope you’ve educated yourself since this comment

[–]pappo4ever 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

When they say incel, they mean non-domesticated men.

[–]TAPriceCTR 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, Chad is very much "non-domesticated"

[–]jamesbwbevis 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Society is in for a huge wake up call. Hoards of hopeless Men with nothing to lose is incredibly dangerous. Especially when you shame and shun them

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just keep stigmatized them so it gets even worse. Eventually you'll just price them right and give them the excuse they need.

[–]Proud_White_Male_ 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are the "journalist" for real? Where is all the hatred from?
"..as a bunch of white, male virgins who can’t get laid and blame women for not wanting to have sex with them, it’s bigger..."
This is so racist. "A bunch of white men". "Incels". I think she is just mad we don't wanna smash her, so she reverse it and say "I don't wanna smash you, and you are sad about it". NOPE!!! Don't ever stick you holy stick inside crazy. THIS IS CRAZY!
And outright attack on men, for seemingly no reason, other than she just have build up a hatred for men in general, and more for white men then any other men, which is ultra super racist, and I never heard anything close to being this racist. This woman should pray for forgiveness and Jesus to come an fill her life with joy and she can find peace inside, in stead of going around and hate on men

[–]StingRayFins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been saying this for years. Feminism like to shame men and destroy them and say they want a world without men?

Ok

But what will the men do? You expect to disrespect them, shame them, abuse them, if ignore them, and they'll do nothing?

Society ignore men's mental health and wellbeing. Everything is geared towards women.

Each day that goes go by we have more and more helpless, hopeless, lonely, depressed, lack of father figure, men.

This is 100% a recipe for disaster. Crime, rape, abuse, theft... All of it will go. Society is producing Elliot Rodgers. We create monsters.

Feminists are using this narrative to laugh at men and look down on them when they should seek to help and understand them. They're a big part of why it's happening to begin with.

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