Men’s contact with children - considered feminine or too (creepy) masculine?

devasiaachayan · 2022-09-22T13:23:30+00:00

I think it might be more of a western thing and is probably slowly seeping into the east. I can give many arguments which might seem controversial but if you look into it, it makes sense. But one example which I find very weird as someone from the Eastern hemisphere is how sexualized Children are In the West. It's not the pedophiles doing it, it's the public itself. Here children will roam around naked all the time and no one will bat an eye. Children of both genders will be ok by the society to be naked till they're 10 or something, after that the shame starts kicking in. And it makes sense from a cultural pov of modesty, its only needed if you're actually matured enough to attract someone. But people in the West seem to make a big deal out of children doing anything or even just holding a hand with an adult. And it's kinda quite clear that focus is more on punishing or Brutualizing Men who might be accused (even if they did or didn't) of sexual abuse rather than to take care of the victim. It's a way for the society to pretend to be morally superior and enjoy a scapegoat to feast on and enjoy violence done on upon it. And it's true because females who are accused of sexual abuse and even pedophilia generally get no this type of hate. There might be calls for arrest, but not some barbaric retardation by the society. Personally I also think the govt uses "protection of children theory" To justify spying on everything even though they actually can't protect much children that way. All of this is slowly seeping into our culture too as feminist traditionalism is taking root.

The new developments I see are that Men won't touch each other as much in urban areas (traditionally its pretty common here for men to hold hands or hug each other). Men are much less likey to interact with kids, teach kids or mentor them. I think this personally has affected me too as I'd really like a mentor who is much ahead in life. Men being beaten up and lynched just for accusations of child harm. Even today I saw a news of a man getting lynched based on a fake allegation of child kidnapping. This is the reality of the east and feminism is just a manifestation of the same type of traditionalist thinking. Luckily, children are still not sexualized yet. Its ironic that west who claims to hate pedophiles the most, end up sexualizing their own children

hehimCA · 2022-09-22T13:38:37+00:00

There have been a few great commercials (public service announcements) from fatherhood.gov showing masculine men playing with their little kids. It’s great stuff but rare.

Btw, the only reason fatherhood.gov was funded was because they showed more involved dads are more likely to pay child support, so the liberals approved it because it helps women get more money, and they all liked that it costs tax payers less.

BloomingBrains · 2022-10-01T11:37:37+00:00

Because the feminist narrative is "men are sex-obsessed perverts and anything they do must be in the pursuit of sex". When they see all male/female relations the same way, its really no surprise they would apply them to male/child relations too.

Man being nice to woman? Grooming. He's obviously trying to ingratiate her with niceness to get sex.
Man being nice to kids? Grooming. He's obviously trying to ingratiate them with niceness to get sex.

(There's probably an interesting allusion to woman-as-child in there somewhere).

The irony is, there are many motivations men might have for wanting to be around kids. Its just that the feminists will never be able to really understand them.

I myself enjoy interacting with kids (especially young girls) precisely because I'm NOT attracted to them. When you take away that element of being potentially interested in someone, suddenly the potential rejection means absolutely nothing, and the anxiety goes completely away. But even in the case they are cautious around me (like my friend's daughter is) it doesn't hurt me the way it would with a girl my own age. Its more natural: she's a kid and I'm an adult. All that feminist programming telling her to see men as evil isn't there yet, so any caution is much more innocent. (Not saying awalt here, just that its a trend).

McGauth925 · 2022-09-23T17:03:35+00:00

I remember, long ago, being high as a kite at a local baseball game my friend was playing in. I wound up playing with a girl, maybe 7-8 years old. I was having fun with her, NOT touching her at all, with no ill intent towards her of any kind. This was in full view of the players and spectators. Because I was high, I kind of forgot that I wasn't supposed to play with women below the age of 18, even though that's not codified into law. (Actually, it's surprising that it's not codified.)

Anyway, after a while I began to feel strange, and realized that I wasn't acting the way a man is supposed to, regardless of the fact that we were both innocently having fun. So, I stopped. Later, my baseball-playing friend made a pointed remark about my little friend, which confirmed for me that I had acted badly.

Nothing more came of it, but I've never, ever played with a little girl like that again.

nuditarian · 2022-09-23T04:01:07+00:00

I'm not saying it's totally fair, but 80-90% of child molestors are men, so I think the "stranger danger" thing is way more of a concern with men than women.

I don't think it's anything to do with a man appearing feminine. That said, I believe there is also propaganda that attempts to tie homosexuality to child sex abuse, even though the vast majority(80%?) of male abusers are heterosexual. So there may be a cultural phenomenon at play that makes people even more suspicious of an effeminate man who is interested in children for the reasons you describe.

Aybecedee · 2022-10-01T01:09:17+00:00

It‘s not double standards it‘s 97% of women and children being raped by men, that is making people scared of interactions with men.

Title	Men’s contact with children - considered feminine or too (creepy) masculine?
Author	Blauwpetje
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Date	September 22, 2022 12:20 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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