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Marry or get cancelled by the media. Men who don’t want to marry or turn themselves into financial services product are toxic.

NeoNotNeo

October 9, 2022
175 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.womanlynews.com/woman/2020/08/26/men-going-their-own-way-the-rise-of-a-toxic-male-separatist-movement/
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Title Marry or get cancelled by the media. Men who don’t want to marry or turn themselves into financial services product are toxic.
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NeoNotNeo

Upvotes 175
Comments 52
Date October 9, 2022 5:01 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/xzqjmp/marry_or_get_cancelled_by_the_media_men_who_dont/
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https://theredarchive.com/post/1134444
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[–]whtsnk 119 points120 points121 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tell a woman she’s a “strong independent woman who don’t need no man” and you get lauded for your feminist perspective.

Tell a man the equivalent, and you are a rabid misogynist.

[–]ExMuzzy 72 points73 points74 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

So men opt out because relationships are often one sided when it comes to who does the traditional stuff (providing, romancing, etc.) and plus the law favours women when it comes to child custody and the vast majority of divorces. What’s wrong with opting out? Is it the rejection that annoys them?

They claim entitlement when men complain about not getting sex but are ignorant to the fact that they aren’t owed a relationship or marriage either.

[–]Angryasfk 25 points26 points27 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Incredible isn’t it! Who’d have thought men would increasingly opt out of a game that’s increasingly stacked against them!

[–]ExMuzzy 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Nah man, it's totally cool to let the other sex dictate what is romantic and manly, like giving them your assets and money.

[–]Angryasfk 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Of course. We should be women’s property for them to use, abuse, and dispose of at will. That clearly should be our lot. I mean when feminists talk about “equality” that seems to be what they mean, so no peace until we accept out lot and submit to our “betters”! /s (just in case someone doesn’t get this)

[–]mixing_saws 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is a supremacy movement. Also the term femnazi is earned rightfully so.

[–]VulcanHajin 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the equivalent (for reality)of a newbie devlopper writting

Hello world

[–]63daddy 48 points49 points50 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The article reflects the social norm that men are expected to provide for women. It says much that men are shamed for seeking equality.

Given the gynocentric nature of society, such criticism and shaming isn’t at all surprising however.

[–]EvidencePlz 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't mind being a provider in a long term, committed and marital relationship if they (you know who) in return provided to me something of value. But that's definitely not the case and is one of the reasons why the MGTOW path exists.

[–]copeharderhun1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

It is hilarious isn't it. We are expected to literally slave away just to make the lives of the ruling class (i.e. women) better. This is the most peak example of discrimination. It is literally no different as to how black slaves were expected to slave away to make the lives of their "racial superiors" better.

This is why MGTOW is so beautiful. You can piss off everyone who wronged you, piss off society and women, and in the process massively benefit yourself. And there is FUCK all they can do about it bar laws which force men to marry.

The power of walking away is truly a beautiful thing.

[–]randomgivenname 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahhh yes, everything is men's fault

[–]shit-zen-giggles 22 points23 points24 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

This is an advertisement for a book from 2 years ago. Said book has been debunked and taken apart at the time.

just for the record.

[–]EvidencePlz 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Could you tell me which book? I can't even visit the link cause it gives me a Chrome virus alert.

[–]shit-zen-giggles 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

this one

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/rgff7r/is_anyone_here_familiar_with_laura_bates_and_her/

[–]EvidencePlz 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

thanks

[–]BoTheJoV31 points 3 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Chrome knows this stuff is bad for your health lol

[–]EvidencePlz 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL

[–]rabel111 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Freedom, my body my choice, bodily integrity and independence. All basic rights feminists are fighting for. Unless you are male.

Feminists are insisting that men must remain within strict traditional gender roles that support women and provide both protection and financial security. As soon as any man steps outside that traditional gender role, feminists freak out. Just shows how shallow feminists really are when it comes to understanding men and masculinity.

[–]g1455ofwater 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anyone wanting fair treatment for men will be attacked by feminists. Feminists expect something like 80/20 split for women of resources and anything less than that they will condemn as toxic.

[–]Cybralisk 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gotta be a damn moron as a man to get married these days. Not to mention everyone I know who got married are either now divorced or is unhappy in the marriage.

[–]xRockest 24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Marriage is misogyny, but not getting married is misogyny as well

[–]aknabi 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Any threat to a grift will be met with gaslighting and harsh attacks… articles like this should be used to further highlight that women who think like this are simply looking to continue to grift off of men resources and are the opposite of a “strong independent woman”… they’re a “weak dependent man-grifter”

[–]rahsoft 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Any threat to a grift will be met with gaslighting and harsh attacks

the hallmarks of a domestic abuser...

[–]aerial_coitus 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i know.

MGTOW

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

And, of course, the 'Red-Piller' in the graphic is a scowling male with a huge nose, just to make the ladies feel better that they're not missing anything, anyways. 'The Guardian' is a feminist rag, full of lady issues, and is forever publishing the views of one Laura Bates, who wrote the quite awful book 'Men Who Hate Women', with its completely uninformed Chapter on MGTOW. Don't waste your time reading it. I wish I could have those hours of my life returned! Basically, the girls are getting nervous and twitchy that we might not wish to sign up to a life of peonage any longer. Tough.

[–]Angryasfk 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

It’s their own fault. Men once got something out of marriage. Their idea of making it “equal” is that the man pays everything and receives nothing.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If there were a Duluth model for relationships and marriage, this would be it.

[–]Angryasfk 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Feminists always start from the assumption that women get the worst of everything. It their basic worldview. And it’s why they fail to grasp reality.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They also fail to grasp reality because of how their brains work, once they're bathed in oestrogen from adolescence onwards. It's all about gaining resources and security, with empathy only for the views of their own sex. This once worked during desperate days of struggle, in the mist of pre-history. Today, it just causes bottomless male pain.

[–]Angryasfk 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well I don’t know about that. I do know that women do tend to think that men have it much better than them “just because”!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's made clear in 'The Master and His Emissary' by Professor Iain McGilchrist. The effects of oestrogen on amplifying the pleasure and comfort seeking dopamine pathways of the left brain hemisphere are genuinely scary! For an interesting article based on his work, see 'The Neuroscience of Intellectual Openness' by Freya India Ager, in Areo online journal, June 2021. The origins of the 'just because' argument begins to make some sense!

[–]Owlingse 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s the entitlement they have.

[–]PonderingMan33 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The facts have no source, seems like blatant misandry that is acceptable and now even demanded by society.

[–]Owlingse 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

And it won’t be sustainable. This is a decadent society.

[–]AndyBrown65 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They can't seem to get their mind around the fact that MGTOW is about men being assertive and interacting with women on their terms, as opposed to being submissive and interacting with women on women's terms

[–]rahsoft 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

that is a very poor article/hit piuece attempting to sell grifter laura bates and to dismiss genuine concerns with the usual "oh we found someone- age 22 who left the movement because they only joined for fun".

the mental gymnastics they attempt to justify their position and refusing to address the unequal one sided rights they want. They who decry patriarchy and gender roles, want these roles when it suits them but then complain about them when the bill for their responsibilities turns up. They have been infantilized like spoilt children.

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Ask any smart businessman and/or lawyer if they would get into a one-sided contract in which they stood to lose out heavily regardless of whether they stayed in, left or made it to the end, they would probably offer you a pistol with 5 empty chambers and tell you the odds are better with that. Would a feminist enter an employment contract whereby their employer can take back half of what they earned and then demand the other half over the next 10-20 years?

The state( along with feminist) turned marriage/ltr into a one-sided contract and then can't accept it when people choose not to engage. the only choice left to men is to not play this loaded game. its not as if men ride off into the sunset happy forever, they would have to give up children, relationships, some social interaction and participation in society. there are NO winners in this for anyone....

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It's time for these people( feminists and their enablers) to grow up and live their own lives on their terms and live with the mess they created. They can come back to the grown ups when they've decided to apply genuine equality and responsibilities.

[–]Owlingse 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well those people don’t know what is consequences. They live their lives of what feels right LOL

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love how they bring Mike Pence into it like he said “yes men go be MGTOW”.

[–]CommissarSteel56 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And then there are men, like myself, who want to get married and settle down who are ridiculed for it. Or passed over for men who don't have any way of providing for either the woman or the child.

I know I am complaining here but it hurts... I accept any ridicule this group may have against me for saying this.

[–]Owlingse 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I understand you and when they get older with emotional baggage is when they want to settle down. Again this tells you, they don’t settle down on their own. They are often forced after the guys they really like, don’t give them the time of the day.

[–]owlsore 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol.

The only thing I see here is an overweight, post-wall woman screeching because she's drying up into irrelevance and has no man that wants to stick around for longer than a week.

[–]hawkeyepitts 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

“You won’t let me use and abuse you so you’re toxic and hateful towards me!”

It’s the ultimate narcissistic way of thinking.

[–]Owlingse 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Precisely. Hilarious too 😂😂😂

[–]EvidencePlz 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I got a virus or malicious something alert while trying to visit this site?

[–]Jukingku22 -5 points-4 points-3 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I look at feminist/blatant misogyny subreddit. Then i look at MRA and antifeminist subreddit. Its just constant bashing on both sides. Theres no solution or end in site. Will this battle ever end? I feel like this war is whats causing the suicide rates for women and especially men to skyrocket. No one knows there purpose anymore and young boys and girls aren’t receiving guidance. This battle will never end if one side see’s itself as the victim and the other as the oppressor because no matter what the “oppressor” does to the oppressed to show them they arent oppressed, they will pull out certain cards or statistics that are out of context or look like they mean something until you look deeper. Theres never gonna be a dam end

[–]Angryasfk 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They’re not “equally at fault”. You cannot compare the power and influence of the two movements. Feminists have massive political lobbying power; control the DV industry; have gender studies departments promoting their ideology as if it’s an actual academic discipline, and that’s not even counting stuff like Metoo and the number of major publications (especially The Guardian, The Independent and the New York Times) that are enthralled to them. The MRM on the other hand is a few blogs and subs, and a number of vloggers who are regularly harassed by the platforms. They get a rising viewing precisely because of the domination and hatred spewing from feminism. Would you have claimed in 1939 that Nazi Germany and Poland were equal threats to the peace of Europe and equally at fault? You’d have had a better case than here.

[–]Jukingku22 -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Noo man i agree with you. Its just that they see us how we see them. They see us as women hating/mysoginistic and we see them and men hating and misandrist. I agree though that there power comes from canceling the other side instead of changing there minds unlike our power which is more statistical

[–]dungeonmonkey69 -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah it's pretty sad. Feel like we are really feeling the backlash against years of awfulness from 'the message' (in critical drinker voice lol) within the culture at large

[–]Jukingku22 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol i watch that guy😂

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao, what a nonsense take on the article. It sounds like you didn't actually read it.

[–]The_Banana_Monk -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reading what mgtow is about from this article makes it sound like the male version of the extreme feminist

[–]Lanky-Bank-320 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They know the reason they just need a coping mechanism

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