Why should I get off the red pill?

Freethinker312 · 2023-01-07T21:14:34+00:00

Red pill reduces people to numbers (so-called "sexual market value") and statistics (all women are like this) and totally ignores that people each have a unique personality. That alone is reason enough to get off it.

ogspence308 · 2023-01-07T19:10:39+00:00

Keep living it for a few years & find out for yourself

Stargazer1919 · 2023-01-07T19:45:57+00:00

We literally just had a post on this the other day.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/102yt22/former_red_pills_can_i_know_what_damage_is_caused/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

It's your own decision if you want to leave TRP or not.

Capital_Education572 · 2023-01-07T21:22:50+00:00

It's just a very negative world view to have. Take the idea of women being hypergamous.It's definitely true that women (and men but let's focus on women) want to be with attractive high value partners and for men that tends to be tall, handsome, nice physique and high income. The problem with the red pill is that it takes this idea to the extreme and says women only want to be with these men (Which can be disproven if you go outside and look at couples and specifically couples with children and you'll see is that average looking women date average looking men). If you're a man and you're short ,unattractive, or don't make a lot of money, it's going to hurt to hear that. And if you already don't have any luck with women, you'll assume that's why and start to think there's no hope for you, which is just a shitty mindset to have.

Brandon_Tourist9424 · 2023-01-07T19:34:53+00:00

Because its not real.

thrifteddivacup · 2023-01-07T23:21:04+00:00

I'm sorry are bad things not typically reasons?

kidguts · 2023-01-07T21:43:26+00:00

It warps your sense of reality in a way that makes it hard to relate to other people and sabotages your relationships. For example:

The Red Pill relies on assumptions made about "human nature" that lead you generalize about people in ways that prevent you from getting know to individuals personally. For example, the Red Pill assumption that women don't go for men shorter than them could prevent you from forming a bond with a hot tall chick, or the idea that women "only want one thing" could ruin a potential relationship from the get-go because you assume you already know their motivations, desires, and thoughts.
Instead of individuals with inner lives and personalities, RedPill sorts people into Chads, Staceys, Virgins, Prudes, Whores, Alphas, Betas, etc. This is as reliable as any other generalizing categorization system, like colored auras, astrological signs, dietary habits, or favorite sports team. "Ah, he's a Virgo with a green aura who drinks butter coffee and likes the Buffalo Bills. No wonder he's swimming in pussy!" "Nobody gets married anymore because all women these days are just earring-wearing salad-eating whores." Again, these generalizations erase the variety of human experiences within each of these arbitrary categories, and the assumptions made on these labels can prevent you from getting to know and connect with people at an individual level.
Red Pill/PUA approaches to interacting with women set you up for shitty relationships. For example, the PUA strategy of negging could backfire and make you seem like an insufferable dick instead of an assertive alpha, leaving you wondering why women aren't interested in you. If it does succeed, it may only be with girls who are annoyingly insecure or emotionally unstable. If you rely on peacocking to get dates, you may end up only attracting ladies who won't care about who you are as a person.

Red Pill may work for PUAs and other "Alphas", but it otherwise sells a generalizing approach to seeing the world that makes it hard to have normal human connections, so much so that people who are redpilled often say such relationships don't exist. For those who can't "win" at this gameified approach to human interaction, they're told they should just give up and take the MGTOW or Incel route.

ViewNo4267 · 2023-01-08T00:48:47+00:00

Because the whole movement is a grift to exploit your mental health. How will the RP influencers keep attracting attention and money if their followers actually found happiness and no longer needed their "help"? They hook you while you're in a shitty place and hurting by pretending to have all the black and white, easy-to-understand solutions for complex issues. They keep enabling and feeding you toxic bullshit because anger is addictive. You keep following their advice but never actually feel fulfilled or happy or calm. They'll tell you that it's all your fault because you aren't enough and you need to lean even harder into their "philosophies." And so you fall even deeper into the RP hole. They just keep manipulating RPers hate for themselves for their own selfish gains. The RP doesn't give two shits about making men's lives better. They're just trying to brainwash you into accepting that the world is completely superficial and to reject truly bonding with anyone.

failing2start · 2023-01-08T01:22:29+00:00

They try to sell you on the idea that “everyone else” thinks exactly like they do, but truly most people do not view the world that way.

After escaping abusive relationships that were modeled for me in my family home since childhood, and having to do the work to deprogram myself from that worldview, I took on the work of trying to understand why it happened to me. What kind of people do these things, how do they think and why, etc?

In that process I literally had to learn that some people have this insane world view. Where people’s attributes are quantifiable and only count for how useful they are to the person quantifying. That every relationship is some kind of transaction.

It literally blew my mind, and honestly still does, because that is just so so so far from how I had always related to life and relationships.

Now I spend time looking for people like me and there are so many of us! This worldview they convince you everyone operates under is not true. Most people just do not view things that way. And the ones that do hurt, not only other people, but themselves because they are quantifying themselves in dehumanizing ways too. It’s pain all around.

For what?

anubhav23 · 2023-01-07T18:46:44+00:00

LOL. 🍿

AssistTemporary8422 · 2023-01-08T05:54:01+00:00

Your whole question is wrong. The burden of proof is on you to justify being on the redpill not on us to refute it. I've found that every redpiller is different and I need to understand their individual situations and arguments before I can "refute the redpill" for them.

creamerfam5 · 2023-01-07T21:23:49+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/everymanshouldknow/comments/29hbtj/emsk_why_the_red_pill_will_kill_you_inside/

Nightchanger · 2023-01-07T22:08:32+00:00

Why are you in the RP in the first place?

I_eat_sand_everyday · 2023-01-08T05:43:05+00:00

Because your thoughts create your reality. You can’t talk red/blackpill users out of their mindset, the existence of their world is undeniable because they’re LIVING in it.

If I set out tomorrow to notice, pick out and fixate on any and every object that is the color red, the world is red. Anybody who tells me otherwise is lying because we can both see the color with our own eyes. There are lots of other colors, in fact red is even in the minority, but after consciously searching for it for so long my mind is trained to fly towards red immediately, ignoring hundreds of thousands of different hues. All the beauty, art, soul, love, purpose and fulfillment in this world, and you’re missing out on it.

It only sounds stupid as fuck because you haven’t found it yet. And people who want your company in their perpetual misery are capitalizing on that.

You are mass producing pain and helpless anger that you yourself will have to stew in. Its psychological torture and you are literally denying yourself the meaning of life.

Anybody who tells you there’s nothing out there for you is trying to sell you something. They’re lying

monke433 · 2023-01-08T12:05:41+00:00

In my experience (like anything), take the bad things out of it and follow the good. For example it's topics on women can be very degrading, but it's advice on personal responsibility and discipline are good. I think you shouldn't really follow a 'pill' just live a healthy life which you have fun in and are healthy to other people too

SweelFor- · 2023-01-08T16:51:54+00:00

OP is 13 years old: https://old.reddit.com/r/teenagers/comments/105xb4s/type_women_are_and_type_whatever_your_phone/j3eifmh/?context=3

Old-Vermicelli1951 · 2023-01-08T04:00:12+00:00

Red pill exists to keep you in a state of anger and confusion and makes you jaded and pessimistic towards finding a genuine relationship. And I'll say this now... F&F, Pearl, Tate and the rest ALL PROFIT OFF YOUR PAIN. They want to sell you advice and promote and give you an ego that's tied to material possessions that'll either lose value or be to expensive to maintain it's upkeep.

Red Pill influences your mind to think there's a ton of prerequisites that you have to meet in terms of money, fitness, status, etc. And from the ladies, you expect total fitness and submissiveness instead of vital and quality character traits that compliment yours. If it ain't obvious, it will turn you into a misogynist if you dive deep enough.

Red Pill makes you so fixated on that that you forget to develop a good character and makes any romantic relationship purely transactional instead of natural.

Edit it's your choice to stay with it or leave but be careful, it's a cult with a hive mind and I don't want to see you get sucked in.

Temporary-Current-29 · 2023-01-08T00:28:55+00:00

You shouldn't. Keep your head up and focus on yourself. You have to maintain RP even after you've hit the jackpot.

SweelFor- · 2023-01-08T09:53:31+00:00

It's a factually incorrect set of ideas that hurts its believers and those who interact with them

Title	Why should I get off the red pill?
Author	Odinrb19
Upvotes	4
Comments	56
Date	January 7, 2023 5:22 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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