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Blackpillers: What is Your Honest Response to This?

6ix_Destroyed

February 15, 2023
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Title Blackpillers: What is Your Honest Response to This?
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6ix_Destroyed

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Date February 15, 2023 8:02 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/AllPillDebate
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/11372me/blackpillers_what_is_your_honest_response_to_this/
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Blackpillers: Why do you hate being encouraged?

4 upvotes
February 18, 2023
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Blackpillers: Why can't we just accept that life is unfair and that attractive people have advantages and that we're unfortunately just not as attractive as we'd like? This way, we don't harbor resentment.

3 upvotes
February 20, 2023
/r/AllPillDebate

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[–]debatelord_1 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I agree. The timepill is the most brutal of all. You can never make up for lost time. The clock is ticking relentlessly. Missed out on teen love and there's nothing that can change that.

And things only get worse with time:

In your teens you miss out on teen love.

In your 20s you miss out on having the first real long term adult relationships.

In your 30s you miss out on having a family and kids. It goes on.

[–]6ix_Destroyed 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amen. Your wisdom has transcended ours.

[–]Last-Post2085 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe if you're 40 yes it's probably over. But it's not over under 40. People who were complete virgins in their 30s can still find someone and have a family with them. Most people have kids and buy houses in their 30s when their careers are stable. 40s is more difficult because it's the age people have kids that are now teenagers or they have divorced and are more bitter.

[–]inkvell42 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago* (37 children) | Copy Link

You're right, it's my fault that I'm "not changing".

I decided to be born into the race with the lowest smv on average.

I decided to be born into a religious group that has the most current modern day negative stereotypes.

I decided to be born with a deviated septum which forced me to mouthbreath and thereby result in a recessed facial structure.

I decided to be born into a low income single parent household.

BRB, going to go "change" myself into a 6'3-6'5 white chad who comes from a two parent, millionaire household. Who knew it was that easy. 🤷‍♂️

Wrap it up, guys, the blackpills been defeated. 😯😯😯

[–]6ix_Destroyed 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Firstly, you have my full sympathy with your first few points. No doubt those aspects give you a real disadvantage.

Secondly, don't you think blackpillers have some unhelpful traits that have nothing to do with looks, such as intellectual arrogance? For example: "Wrap it up, guys, the blackpills been defeated." Don't you see the sarcastic arrogance in this?

[–]inkvell42 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Lmao chads can be "sarcastically arrogant" all they want and they are still getting laid no problem. I'm not going to stop doing the only thing that brings me any semblance of joy in my life which is putting down those who I believe are beneath me in intellect, especially retarded bluepilled normies. All anyone can do in response is just then make fun of me for being an "ugly loser virgin," which then unironically reinforces and proves the blackpill 😂😂😂. Basically at this point, there's no way I can lose and go "any lower" because I'm already at the bottom, so from my point of view any time I can piss a person off with my "sarcastic arrogance" I see it as a win, however small a win it may be.

[–]6ix_Destroyed 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

You don't think there's any way you can climb out of "the bottom"?

[–]inkvell42 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Yeah lmao, surgeries and bleaching.

[–]6ix_Destroyed 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

  1. You don't think your intellectual arrogance is preventing you from climbing higher?
  2. You do realize that whereas you get your ego boost by trying to put others down, non-blackpillers get their ego boost from raising themselves up?

[–]inkvell42 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

  1. You do realize that whereas you get your ego boost by trying to put others down, non-blackpillers get their ego boost from raising themselves up?

Oh i have no doubt in my mind that if I do manage to improve my looks by way of surgeries, that my ego will increase.

[–]6ix_Destroyed -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You addressed my second point but not first?

[–]inkvell42 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Because i didn't care for it, but if you just have to know what I think, then the answer is no.

Like I said there's probably chads out there who are as "sarcastically arrogant" as I am, if not more, and yet they have no problem getting laid. If chad can do it why can't I? Oh because I'm not chad? lmao then go fuck yourself. You want me to change who I am as a person internally because of the misfortune of my genetics at birth, of which I had no control over?

I would actually literally rather completely change myself external self (AKA my physical appearance) than change who I am as a person, because unlike women who like to virtue signal about the importance of personality to them, I ACTUALLY CARE about personality. I'm proud of who I am as a person, I consider myself better than most people when it comes to who I am as a person because I'm not like the billions of delusional bluepilled normies who would rather lie to themselves and live in their just world fallacy, then accept the world for the brutal reality that it is. Those people are weak and would probably have a catastrophic mental breakdown if they ever accepted the truth, whereas I got passed my rage/sadness phase and am moving onto the "taking action phase".

[–]6ix_Destroyed 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What is your "taking action phase?"

[–]M3taBuster 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I disagree that that's necessary, but for the sake of argument, I'll concede that it is. So then... why not work your ass off to save up money for surgery and bleaching?

[–]inkvell42 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I literally am. Funny enough I was just on realself calculating all the surgeries that I need and adding up their total costs. It amounts to around 55k.

[–]Last-Post2085 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't think there's any way you can climb out of "the bottom"?

Obscene amounts of money is the only way imo. Like a billionaire might not have any issues cause they can drive around in Lambos and have kids with gold diggers.

[–]ElectricBugs 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

The reality is most people are not born as a white Chad who has millionaire parents

[–]inkvell42 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't matter. I was just giving the ideal scenario.

white guys in general, can come from an average background, and get with average white girls AND ABOVE AVERAGE LOOKING ethnic girls cause of ethnic womens white worshipping. Non- white guys have to be AT THE VERY LEAST, 7/10s (tyronelite, changlite, chadpreetlite) just to get the same type of girls that your average white guy can get.

Now imagine being me, ethnic, below average looking, AND being born into a lower income single parent household. I will have to miss out on my 20s, saving up money in order to get all the surgeries I need (I need like 5-6 tbh), HOPE that they go well, and then HOPE that they will be enough for me to be able to compete in the dating marketplace. And then even after all of that, most of the women who will be left in the marketplace will most likely be a bunch of ran through alpha widowed jaded hores, or a bunch of single mothers. I will never be able to get my loyal virgin waifu because women literally aren't virgins past a certain age (like 25 tbh).

But that's life, it is what it is. And that's OK because I plan on getting my revenge anyway. I will say whatever it takes to fuck these hoes and then dump them when I'm done fking them.

[–]ElectricBugs -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The reason you aren't successful is due to your ugly behaviour and attitude dude. Seeking revenge? If you are successful enough to pump and dump you could get a partner. lol you're dreaming. Revenge fantasies are nice but they are fantasies for a reason.

What do you offer women? Other than hate?

[–]inkvell42 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What do you offer women? Other than hate?

If I manage to become good looking, then my looks lmao, just like any other ONS ch@d. I'm not good looking now, I hope to be after my surgeries. Women literally don't deserve anything from me besides my hate-filled dick lmfao, sue me.

[–]ElectricBugs 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Nah you are overestimating the amount of pussy you will get. Lol you definitely do not deserve anything from women with your attitude

[–]inkvell341 points 3 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I deserve what I can get lmao you retarded hore 😂😂😂. I'm ugly and so as a result i get no pussy. If I get surgeries and bleach myself and then AM NOT ugly, then I get pussy. It's really that simple. Women are not some erethral angelic omnipotent creatures who are some kind of mysterious enigmatic beings who dish their pussies out to some knight in shining armor. Yall like rape/domination porn, you guys like narcissistic machivellian rich billionaires like that nibba from 50 shades of Grey, you guys obsesse over criminals like Jeffrey dahmer, Richard ramirez, and that one recent kid who hit and killed a pregnant woman and her little daughter while racing with his friends. You guys need to stop pretending you're something more than the animalistic cavewoman homo sapiens that you are. It's the 2023 and the post modern era, no one is falling for the "women are wonderful" effect anymore, so you can't fool me with this "Muh attitude" bullshit. 😂😂😂

[–]ElectricBugs 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes and you won't get anything because that is what you deserve. You proved my point. Bravo!

[–]inkvell56 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right, only good looking men deserve it. And I'm willing to tear my face apart to get there if I have to.

[–]Skadi793 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

wait, slow down bro

What race are you exactly? I wasn't aware that one race had a low SMV on average.

And what religious group is held in contempt by women? Islam? I can show you exceptions to that idea

as for the nose: I busted mine boxing as a kid like 4 times. Had surgery to fix. Still fucked up and I breathe through my mouth all night. Never interfered with my dating life

Low-income single-parent household sucks, but I know a dude who came from that background who has slept with 100+ women (no lie). The present and the future count, not the past

[–]inkvell42 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

wait, slow down bro

What race are you exactly? I wasn't aware that one race had a low SMV on average

Look up dating statistics for men and reply and swipe rate by race and you'll know.

And what religious group is held in contempt by women? Islam? I can show you exceptions to that idea

I literally don't care about anecdotes. The fact that you even guessed Islam means that you know exactly what im talking about.

as for the nose: I busted mine boxing as a kid like 4 times. Had surgery to fix. Still fucked up and I breathe through my mouth all night. Never interfered with my dating life

My facial structure is only one aspect of my physical unattractiveness (albeit a huge part). I'm wholly unattractive for other physical characteristics besides my facial structure.

Low-income single-parent household sucks, but I know a dude who came from that background who has slept with 100+ women (no lie). The present and the future count, not the past

Bruh more "I know a guy" anecdotes 😂😂😂. Why do people think outliers disprove the statistical average? Everyone of you people are so delusional. Why do all normies think they are "the one"? 😂😂😂 why do you guys think you are all special? I have no doubt in my mind that I'm not the only one out of 8 billion people on this planet that have practically the same life as me, and has the same outlook and future planned for themselves. There are probably millions of unattractive bitter men who are planning for surgeries in hopes of becoming physically attractive enough for casual sex so that they can pump and dump women as revenge. I don't get what normies are expecting when they pull the "I know one guy" garbage. First of all you're a stranger on the internet and I don't know you well enough to know if you are telling me the truth or not. Secondly even if you are, I DON'T CARE. I AM NOT YOUR ONE GUY, I AM ACTUALLY APART OF A RISING STATISTIC OF LONELY DISAFFECTED VIRGIN YOUNG MEN IN THE WEST THAT HAVE VERY RECENT STATISTICAL STUDIES PROVING OUR EXISTENCE. I have studies and statistics on my side, you have bullshit worthless possibly lying PERSONAL anecdotes on your side. Guess which one I'm going to care about more?

[–]6ix_Destroyed 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

So what is your goal now? Since it's over with dating, what do you see you future as?

[–]inkvell42 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

Make a steady income, save up enough money for surgeries, get said surgeries, hopefully become attractive, fck bltches, travel the world cause I'm a history/geography/culture nerd that wants to explore the whole world and experience every culture, go to space, and then maybe after I've had my fill of casual sex, if possible, settle down with the female version of myself, love her truly and dearly and care for her like no else before (this does not mean just sex) so that she can know that there was always someone out there who actually cares about her, hopefully get the same treatment in return.

If after I get surgeries and it's still not enough for women to find me physically attractive enough to fuck on looks alone, then I'll still try to travel the world and experience every culture because it's been a dream of mine ever since I was a little child, try to go to space, come up with other crazy things that I want to do, and then hopefully by the time I turn 30, I will have done everything that I've wanted to, and finally have gathered enough courage to kill myself.

[–]6ix_Destroyed 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That's awesome. And I have to ask, what do you currently rate your face right not?

[–]inkvell34 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm probably a 3, and MAYBE a 4 out of 10 if I'm honest. So either textbook ugly, or below average looking.

[–]6ix_Destroyed 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think that if your body is in good shape, and you groom properly, you can bag a 6 woman (perhaps even higher) with 0 surgeries. What do you think?

[–]inkvell34 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think you're being optimistic.

[–]6ix_Destroyed 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have no purpose in lying to you though, so why I else would I say that?

[–]Last-Post2085 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You have a lot of lofty goals there bro. Going to space? Whoa

[–]inkvell34 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean sure, why not. We only have this one life before we all die and get sent to hell. Might as well live it to the fullest extent.

[–]We_Are_All_One 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good goals you have.

However ponder this:

What if space is misrepresented and all the world's military...I mean "space agencies" are a big club to hide that space rocks don't float around.

Watch meteor footage, no meteors ever go below the horizon or above from below.

[–]Skadi793 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like you are trying to get women outside of your ethnic and religious group. Also trying to find women outside your cultural group.

Dude: that is a tall order for any guy, I don't care what color you are.

If I went to Egypt tomorrow to find a girlfriend, it would be seriously challenging as a white, nominally Christian, guy.

Instead of focusing on all your problems (limited funds, big-nose, whatever) start trying to come up with solutions:

  1. Keep lifting, get swole
  2. Stash away money in investments and start building a future
  3. Look within your ethnic and religious group for dating options--stay out of the damn bars where the white skanks hang-out. I am sure there are social clubs, a good Masjid, or even dating services for guys like you.
  4. Go to gallery openings, museum events, or other cultural functions, where you can use your knowledge in culture, art, geography, whatever, to your advantage. Girls love that stuff
  5. Unless there is something seriously wrong with your face, like rotted-out teeth, you don't need to "fix" it (and that can be fixed). You don't need to look like Brad Pitt to have a girlfriend

Life is a challenge bro: be thankful that you aren't in a wheelchair, mentally-retarded, etc.

[–]mapvagary21 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, comment straight out of r/seducingwomen

[–]inkvell34 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If I went to Egypt tomorrow to find a girlfriend, it would be seriously challenging as a white, nominally Christian, guy.

This is clear gatekeeping and I'm not dumb enough to fall for it 😂😂😂. Also, you're retarded and no you wouldn't, atleast not in private. Look up the story about this French guy who went to Morocco or something and literally fucked over 100 Moroccan women. 😂😂😂 Yes maybe out in public they would reject you cause women of those societies, are aware of the social (and potentially physical) backlash that could happen to them if they publicly went out with some white Christian foreigner. Behind closed doors ethnic women don't mind white men at all, especially if they are objectively attractive. 😂😂😂

  1. Keep lifting, get swole

Did this for 4 years when I was the military. Didn't get shit.

  1. Stash away money in investments and start building a future

Already planning to buy multiple properties and then rent them out for passive income. In the meantime, I'm going to school for my hvac career.

  1. Look within your ethnic and religious group for dating options--stay out of the damn bars where the white skanks hang-out. I am sure there are social clubs, a good Masjid, or even dating services for guys like you.

Eastern Brown girl's are ugly on average and I'm not trying to have an ugly son who will have to suffer in life the same way I had to, im not so cruel. Rather, I'll just bleach myself and get a bunch of cosmetic surgeries like jaw surgery and a rhino so I can be as much of a lightskin chadpreet as I possibly can, then i either get with a lightskin Latina foid or white girl and have mixed sons who will have a greater chance of being actually physically attractive, than the "pure" men of my race.

  1. Go to gallery openings, museum events, or other cultural functions, where you can use your knowledge in culture, art, geography, whatever, to your advantage. Girls love that stuff

Yeah maybe autistic weirdo ugly girls (ugly men are the same). Every normal girl chases chads the very moment they hit puberty. And I'm not talking about just attractive ones. Normal NT average looking girls also chase chads as well. It's in a girls nature to chase attractive men, anything other than this and the girl is defective. Ro@sties are going to get mad when they read this😂😂😂 but deep down inside, they know that everything they do, is to appeal to the highest value mate/ man that they can get, and lock down into committing to them.

  1. Unless there is something seriously wrong with your face, like rotted-out teeth, you don't need to "fix" it (and that can be fixed). You don't need to look like Brad Pitt to have a girlfriend

Doesn't matter, the average man of my race is considered universally the least desirable. Our facial features plus skin color is the result of this

Life is a challenge bro: be thankful that you aren't in a wheelchair, mentally-retarded, etc.

Typical normie "other people have it bad too" deflection and gaslighting in order to get me accept MY shitty lot in MY personal life. 🖕

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[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like call for action (for all blackpillERs).

[–]Antisocial_NihilistRedPill 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Interesting point, but I'm not sure what it has to do with this sub?

[–]6ix_Destroyed 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks. It's very much related to the blackpill mindset of parts of this sub I thought.

[–]Eyesofmalice 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Jordan Peterson is a huge fraud. got slapped all around by Zizek on their debate.

Changing is a process shaped by the horizon of expectations a person can have, and such horizon is set by the interpretation of outer stimuli. You can change your outlook of life but you can't change the events that happened to you over which you didn't have any say.

would you tell an illiterate person that it is their choice not to ponder what the Hegelian dynamic of slave-master means for their grasp of reality?

Besides change is a thing that gains validity retroactively instead of proactively. A person that does nothing but luckily find themselves in a different situation can claim to have changed simply because they're using their mindset on a different situation, while a person who underwent radical change can still see their grasp on their own lives destroyed by factors outside their control.

[–]6ix_Destroyed 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree that you can change due to the environment that you're in that's out of your control. However, you don't agree that you can also change by changing an environment that's under your control?

[–]Eyesofmalice 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My point is more that you can only change what you can imagine changeable. Firstly.

Secondly, bitterness and resentment isn’t always bad on itself, it depends on the conditions that led you to ducha. State of mind.

Let me put it this way, Peterson tries to naturalize hegemony, that in his arguments is always implied that the forces that supersede humans are unchangeable by anyone and that in turn we can do nothing but change certain aspects about our own lives. Which is wrong, you can change other people’s lives depending on your job or your level of power within society.

Say a politician makes it so that a pipeline goes through your home, kills your family, ruins your life and leave you with nothing. Peterson would stupidly argue that such a position is the position of Jobe and that Jobe still had faith in god that everything would be fine, and through his faith he moved on. The problem is that in Jobe is god who takes everything from you, not a person. Therefore your resentment towards that person is completely justified.

Sure people can change bits about themselves and stuff, but resentment is a human characteristic, so is the fear of getting old, so he selling it as something you can ditch is ridiculous. That’s another thing about Peterson, he uses an existential author like Dostoevsky and then goes around denying the existential philosophy he put forward. He wants to convince people that by controlling their environment and their lives they can get rid of the negative and arrive to an existence in which inner struggle and evil is overcome. Which is the opposite of what Dostoevsky thought.

Besides the guy’s an idiot, he’s only read two authors his entire life, if he was to read Benjamin or Focault for example he’d find that his arguments are ridiculous. You even saw it with Zizek, he showed to the debate not having read anything by zizek and having only read the communist manifesto. Imagine that, the guy who’s always talking about putting the effort and changing couldn’t be bothered to read nothing but a pamphlet before a debate.

In short, as an incel I see him as an ignorant hypocrite who doesn’t take what he preaches seriously and that projects this image of being a super empowered man but has a minuscule and petty ego and is afraid of learning that reality might not be what he think it is.

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