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Woman accused men of sexually abusing her, men can prove that she agreed. Court sentences her to € 20,000 fine.

zerohuman

November 16, 2017
704 upvotes
/r/PussyPassDenied

https://www.stern.de/lifestyle/leute/urteil-rechtskraeftig--gina-lisa-lohfink-muss-20-000-euro-zahlen-7701292.html

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Title Woman accused men of sexually abusing her, men can prove that she agreed. Court sentences her to € 20,000 fine.
Author

zerohuman

Upvotes 704
Comments 48
Date November 16, 2017 3:04 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/7dcy56/woman_accused_men_of_sexually_abusing_her_men_can/
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[–]Muh-So-Gin-Knee 293 points294 points295 points 8 years ago (34 children) | Copy Link

The fucked up part is the men had to prove she agreed. Remember men, you are guilty until proven innocent.

[–]FuckingWhiteCisMale 89 points90 points91 points 8 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

That's why if you ever get falsely accused NEVER admit to having sex.

Now things have just been flipped and it's the accuser that has to prove something almost impossible to prove.

[–]Muh-So-Gin-Knee 73 points74 points75 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That won't work. You see, you had sex because she said you did. You would have to prove that you didn't have sex. Your word/assertions mean absolutely nothing yo the police/courts.

[–]FuckingWhiteCisMale 64 points65 points66 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope. Wrong.

If you admit you had sex you're fucked. If you don't they got nothing.

Well, at least in UK where we have a real legal system and not the US where it's just an industry.

[–]Valac_I whiteKnight for fatties 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Just put camera's in your house.

[–]DevilishRogue 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You'll get done for that too, but at least it is less than for rape.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points30 points 8 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Nah, remember prenuptial agreements? Well, welcome prefuck agreements. Bitch doesn't sign, she doesn't get laid. It's called sex insurance and it will be a thing in years to come.

[–]AHobosDick 29 points30 points31 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

This is totally wrong. There are people who think if they get a record of consent in an app, or via text message, or whatever, they are safe. They ARE NOT SAFE. Consent can be withdrawn at any time. Even I said I want to fuck you, if I claim I said stop during sex and claim you didn't, you're the one that's fucked. GET A VIDEO CAMERA. USE IT EVERY TIME YOU GET NEAR PUDDY.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Even that isn't enough. You could have video evidence of her piping you off like a parched dog lapping at a Popsicle but if she later claims that, in retrospect, her "consent" was influenced by power dynamics — i.e. she now thinks the reason she let you finish up her ass in the bathroom of that hotel hosting a refrigerator sales conference was because she was concerned for her career prospects — then you're just as screwed.

[–]stationhollow 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah. The latter isn't illegal. The media circus is portraying it as such and it could cause social issues but it isn't a crime outside of a few professions (teacher, doctor, politician, etc).

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I have to agree. But be careful not to lose those videos or else you'll get screwed anyway.

[–]AHobosDick 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Copy on your hard drive, upload copy to pornhub.

[–]stevrock 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Always have a backup

[–]StarkweatherRoadTrip"I cut my teddy bear a butthole and fucked it from 12-15" 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And make sure to film her ID.

[–]baconit4eva 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Dont record audio in two party consent states.

[–]AHobosDick 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's way better to record audio illegally and not go to prison for rape than connratulate yourself on how clever you were to follow the wiretapping laws while you are getting buttfucked in prison.

[–]dropkickhead 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Illegally acquired evidence may get thrown out in discovery before the case even begins. A judge could even say before the jury is brought in that to mention an illegally recorded video at all is contempt of court and give automatic jailtime whether you're found guilty or not. It's better to have legitimate evidence if you're trying to win in court

[–]FuckingWhiteCisMale 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You might be right. Thankfully I'm in my 30's and married now so not my problem but I do feel sorry for the younger lads. Sex is a minefield for them.

[–]stationhollow 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Means nothing when consent can be withdrawn at any point in time including seconds after signing a legal document claiming consent.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then fuck it, video the whole episode. Just make sure you never lose the damn file. Oh and if you're wrongly accused make sure you press charges. Last but not least, have a small sign outside your door that says "video surveillance equipment in use".

[–]DevilishRogue 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"He coerced me to sign it!"

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Then either 1. U need witnesses, 2. U need it notarized, or 3. U need to secretly record on video the whole sign thing.

[–]juandm117 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

and make sure both parties scream: consent consent CONSENT when cummin

[–]ryeshoes2 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

all of those men in hollywood who had "consent" - did it help them?

Granted, somebody like Louis CK stupidly admitted to being wrong but his lawyers probably advised that of him

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

May be the consent in writing should have a clause requiring any withdraw of consent be done in writing with 5 day notice.

[–]dropkickhead 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's like a forcible rape license. People should be allowed to change their minds when it comes to sex. If a person says no and you do it anyways, I don't care what some paper says from yesterday, today it's rape.

Think about it, imagine consenting with some hot babe but then she just completely fails to satisfy somehow, maybe she got a stank fuckin pussy that looks like a mustard sandwich, only she has your consent contract and doesn't stop humping you. You trying to play some video games or watch TV? Well this consent contract says she can stick her annoying smelly pussy in your face and you can't stop her. If you try to use force to keep her off you at all, she can suddenly call the cops on you now for assault and battery, but you can't say shit because your rape contract says it's okay.

[–]hias_ru 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well one of them released a sex tape of the evening in question. So wouldnt work in this case ;)

[–]vostok-Abdullah 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the worst advice if you actually had sex. There can be real/honest witnesses who might have heard you have sex or seen you in somewhat intimate positions.

There is a good chance you'll get caught lying red handed. Then who'd believe you that you didn't rape as well? You'd be already marked when falsely accused, lying will make it worse.

Never lie to court. Prophet Yusuf/Yusef/Joseph suffered worse.

[–]MeTzGoRe-iND 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They proved it years ago. You can look up the whole Video on pornhub. She is pissed because the Video went viral and she wanted to protect her image.

[–]DevilishRogue 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Doesn't a post like this require a mandatory link? Er... I mean source.

[–]StarkweatherRoadTrip"I cut my teddy bear a butthole and fucked it from 12-15" 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those are the rules.

[–]notmadatall 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How did you get this out of the article?

[–]Muh-So-Gin-Knee 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The presumption is that the woman was telling the truth. The men had to prove that the woman consented.

[–]tothecatmobile 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He has to prove that she agreed to have her punished.

Because innocent until proven guilty works both ways.

[–]joyco66 32 points33 points34 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The translated article

A good five years after an alleged rape, the trial against the model Gina-Lisa Lohfink is finally over because of false suspicion. The district court Berlin-Tiergarten sentenced Lohfink in writing without oral proceedings to a fine of 20,000 euros, court spokeswoman Lisa Jani said on Thursday. Her previous rape allegations may not express it. Lohfink claimed to have been raped in June 2012 by two men. It should have been K. o.-drops in the game. But the courts saw no evidence. Most recently, the court of appeal in February had essentially confirmed the guilty verdict of the district court Berlin-Tiergarten. Because of the false suspicion Lohfink should therefore pay 20,000 euros. Gina-Lisa Lohfink has to pay 80 daily rates of € 250 each

However, the amount of the daily rates had to be renegotiated because the court of appeal did not see sufficient grounds for the assumed income of Lohfink. In the current decision of the district court, an identical sum is now fixed: 80 daily rates of 250 euros each. Lohfink's defense had agreed to that.

The process had caused a stir throughout Germany and polarized. Some saw the model as a champion for the rights of women, others suspected a staged show of tears.

[–]Slateski 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"oral proceedings"

[–]flapflapduckies 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

!redditsilver

[–]RedditSilverRobot 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's your Reddit Silver, joyco66!


/u/joyco66 has received silver 1 time. (given by /u/flapflapduckies) info

[–]joyco66 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yay, my first! :)

Thank you

[–]LowRentMegazord 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Oh, komm schon.

[–]DarwinianKEKistani 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

German insult?

[–][deleted] 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]UsernameMustBeShorte 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Proper translation would be "oh come on..."

[–]YaBoiCrispoHernandez 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She should be jailed

[–]freepepsi 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

OP I think you left out the word “men can prove that she lied” in your title

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know how many people clicked in the article, but the picture of the lady is priceless.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does the guy get the cash, or does the court?? I'm about to get mad rich maybe! I actually have a stalker, and there is no doubt she is capable of pulling this to try and blackmail me. All I have to do is prove my innocence! Not hard to do if you plan ahead (;

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems fair. She lies, he risks going to prison for a few decades, gets caught and only pays a fine. She should have to serve the sentence he would have had to serve. Fucking jerk.

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