The Demographic Dating Market Doom Loop

KrazyJazz · 2023-05-07T03:29:10+00:00

...women place dramatically more stock in a man’s education and income level than men do when searching for a woman partner.

Really? Is it the reason why they are freezing their eggs by the thousands lately? How do they call it again? "A lack of economically attractive men", something like that?

“resource-acquisition ability improved the attention received by men almost 2.5 times that of women.”

Wow. Wow. Wow. What about "luuuv" and "the butterflies"? That was all BS? I'm, for one, shocked and saddened.

we should all become comfortable with women possessing greater social capital than their male partners.

We, men, are. Women? Not that much.

...something like 30% to 40% of the decline in marriage rates is driven by the inability of women to find mates that they see as stable, smart, good earners, or otherwise up to their standards.

Sure. Sure. Insane standards, high divorce rates and the fact that most of the time family courts are ambush grounds where men are mercilessly slaughtered have absolutely nothing to do with the phenomena. Riiight.

So career women are faced with a growing structural disadvantage of insufficient suitable partners, which is exacerbated as they age because of men’s continuing preference for younger women. (Another reality we may lament but can’t really deny.)

So women are more and more picky, unpleasant and entitled but "women most affected". Got it, pal. Thanks for the epiphany.

Toshiba9152 · 2023-05-07T11:21:53+00:00

optimistically - that we should all become comfortable with women possessing greater social capital than their male partners.

Confirmation that these people are not for equality.

Reeves cites data that suggests that something like 30% to 40% of the decline in marriage rates is driven by the inability of women to find mates that they see as stable, smart, good earners, or otherwise up to their standards.

Isn't it funny how in dating, women having ridiculous 6/6/6/6 standards is seen as the greatest thing ever, yet men having reasonable standards makes him shallow, picky, chauvinist, sexist, etc.

which is exacerbated as they age because of men’s continuing preference for younger women. (Another reality we may lament but can’t really deny.)

I don't lament it, I celebrate it instead. Good on the men who are finding and are able to date younger and more attractive women.

I mean, women never refuse to date men purely on the basis of his height right?

Cannot be bothered with the rest of that pile of white knighting rubbish.

Wonderful_Working315 · 2023-05-07T03:26:10+00:00

Its true. I'm 38, 6'2", physically fit, and make 120k/yr, and own a decent house in a medium C.O.L. city. I have many options......... but quality isn't great. Sometimes it feels like a game of hot potato and you don't want to be left holding the chick. Other times it feels like dodgeball avoiding pregnancy, commitment and all kinds of other pitfalls. But my situation is way better than a similar positioned woman.

lumpynose · 2023-05-07T02:22:21+00:00

We can certainly lament the degree to which dating markets still reflect the notion that men have to provide while women don’t - it’s a kind of regressive attitude far fewer people still explicitly hold than they once did - but that expectation remains a reality.

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So career women are faced with a growing structural disadvantage of insufficient suitable partners, which is exacerbated as they age because of men’s continuing preference for younger women.

Two excellent examples of innate behaviors/preferences that are caused by evolutionary psychology.

There's also a link in that last quoted sentence to this study titled "Sex Differences in Mate Preferences Across 45 Countries: A Large-Scale Replication".

63daddy · 2023-05-07T05:20:37+00:00

If you think the dating game or marriage game is stacked against you, then you can choose to not play the game.

Personally, I don’t mind dating women, but feel the biases of marriage will most likely never be worth it to me. We are all free to evaluate the situation or market and decide how to react. Choose wisely.

Felarhin · 2023-05-07T08:57:49+00:00

I don't think that graph is right. I think women's education and income makes their desirability go down, not up. I think most men would date take the hot young cashier at Taco Bell over Oprah all day long. Whatever points they get from their career and education, they more than make up for with their shitty attitude, entitled demands, and the fact that their job is going to become a higher priority than family.

Yozora1337 · 2023-05-07T12:09:13+00:00

Dating and relationship in the west is the losing move. You either keep it casual/FWB or nothing at all, don't be the guy taking Chad's leftovers.

aigars2 · 2023-05-07T07:22:53+00:00

"women place dramatically more stock in a man’s education and income level than men do when searching for a woman partner." Then continues with appeasing them. Women greedy therefore women most affected. Riiight.

John-Walker-1186 · 2023-05-07T08:32:57+00:00

Who cares? Dating is nonsense. Any man who isnt still living in the matrix walked away from that sh*t by now.

WhereProgressIsMade · 2023-05-07T05:57:34+00:00

The simplest strategy I can think of for one of these up and coming “ambitious women” who wants both a career and a husband + family is to not put off looking for a husband/LTR until she’s competing with so many other women around thirty who finally realize they need to get their expectations aligned with reality if they want that family. It’s a real log jam trying to beat the buzzer that Mother Nature gave them.

The article admits men with options tend to favor younger women (as in 25 instead of 30), so anyone with any brains would try to lock one down while she’s still young and find other ways to bring as much to the table as possible.

Wonderful_Working315 · 2023-05-08T00:49:43+00:00

Through friends and at parties (new years, July 4th, super bowl, college football etc.) I don't go to bars often, but as I passed 35 years old they approach me. I've even banged a few chicks from work, but that's risky. It seems easier as you get older as long as you stay in shape and have at least an ok job.

If you're having trouble, start working on yourself. It's cliché but : go to gym and lift heavy, cut out soda and sugar, get sleep, I started TRT and that shit makes me bullet proof in every aspect of life. Join some social/hobby clubs you enjoy. Make friends with other dudes and they'll have wives, sisters, friends and just be a positive cool human.

Title	The Demographic Dating Market Doom Loop
Author	FerociousImbecile
Upvotes	47
Comments	39
Date	May 7, 2023 1:38 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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