Self improvement is bullshit

NoirPill · 2023-10-09T02:57:33+00:00

Its 90% genetics.

Personality is like 5% and funny enough, even then women are not screening for personality traits that are actually substantial for being a good partner and parent.

FortniteAbobus · 2023-10-09T04:52:02+00:00

Never heard that people in relationships selfimprooooved to get some. In their words it came "naturally" and "occasionally".

Sure-Comedian-347 · 2023-10-09T06:21:13+00:00

And if you’re autistic and ugly, then you’re absolutely fucked.

Soewp1234 · 2023-10-09T02:14:31+00:00

the only real self improvement you can see any diference is with plastic surgeries

partyn3xtd00r6 · 2023-10-09T01:07:29+00:00

Those are all good copes but acting like it matters when it comes to dating is hilarious. A lot of guys just can’t understand that the problem isn’t them, the problem is they just aren’t better then their competition(true chads and tyrones) and no amount of self improvement will change that.

mewbestpokeman · 2023-10-09T05:53:34+00:00

"Just improve your height looks and race to appeal to shallow delusional creatures who think 80% of your gender is less than human bro"

NefariousNaz · 2023-10-09T12:41:30+00:00

I agree I did all above.

I grew up in poverty in non-english speaking family.

Now earn 6 figures, was a millionaire in market peak, was a amateur athlete, and involved in volunteerism that included helping sick children and their families.

None of that mattered at all.

The only thing that the money enabled me was to date internationally, which was successful.

purplish_possum · 2023-10-09T02:21:45+00:00

Studying and working for years is how you make money. That's how it's always been except today this door is open to a whole lot more people.

Wooden_Concert3127 · 2023-10-09T07:45:54+00:00

Hard disagree, 1 and 2 are easily achievable if you study computer science and get a remote job that pays 100k+ and lets you work 40 hour work weeks.

Point 3 you're kinda right though - women don't usually care much about your muscles. You do have to be in a reasonably good shape though (like, 20% body fat and a somewhat decent amount of muscle mass), but you don't really have to hit the gym super hard for that. You can just do whatever sport you like (rock climbing, running, biking, etc.) like, 3-5 times a week and that's it.

Hard disagree on social skills as well, you can definitely hone them independently on what point in your life you're at. It just might take more time for some, but you can definitely improve them if you train them daily

bruhminer · 2023-10-09T08:24:46+00:00

This is dumb, improving your looks in the only thing that can help you and you should do it. Will it help all men who struggle ? No but it will help some.

lostatlifecoach · 2023-10-09T02:25:35+00:00

The answers to your points read like

1.) Sounds hard I don't want to try 2.) I've already got video games and the number 1 I'm putting off 3.) Working out cuts into my video games and the not working on making money I'm doing.

Bruh I fucked around in college and lost my scholarship. Joined military and finished my degree during my first 2 years in. I got out with work experience and already had a good job lined up because veterans preference in hiring. I was also in shape because they pay you to gym max.

It's not that hard if you're motivated. I was done by 25.

Should have done one of the 2 year contracts instead of the 4 though.

CarlosM256 · 2023-10-09T07:03:56+00:00

getting rid of your acne, fixing your hairline, losing body fat and then surgerymaxxing are legit "self-improve" stuff

SianOiseau · 2023-10-09T01:19:44+00:00

You have to figure out what actually stops you from dating - social skills, a lack of social life and actually approaching women, appearance, mental health etc. Just applying random advice most likely won't help.

HighlyyFlashy · 2023-10-09T03:34:32+00:00

working out definitely impresses women. especially athletic fit women who aren’t obese (which men say they want right?)

LeastAverageMonke · 2023-10-09T09:59:45+00:00

What is the point if you don't want to improve anything in your life?

ROBYoutube · 2023-10-09T01:21:21+00:00

or you study and work for 20+ years

I cannot stress this enough: 20 years is absolutely going to pass. You can either do nothing and still be like this, or be, by your own hyperbolic admission, a chad-lite due to good money having. What a tough decision if you're the stupidest person in the fucking world who experiences time linearly.

ROBYoutube · 2023-10-09T01:04:30+00:00

90% social skills (that you develop early in life)

If you can talk to a 17 year old and a 45 year old and consider social skills something you acquire early in life, your opinion is a joke and should be dismissed out of hand.

Social skills is something you never, ever stop improving. And by 'you' I obviously don't mean you, I mean people who actually socialise and do things instead of exist at their computer.

or you study and work for 20+ years

In 20 years you could actually achieve this. On your current path, 20 years will still elapse and you'll be the same massive sad act that typed this stupid bullshit.

nexkell · 2023-10-09T03:46:40+00:00

This is such incel cope.

AssistTemporary8422 · 2023-10-09T04:53:21+00:00

"Just make money bro"

Impossible unless your parents are rich or you study and work for 20+ years

What? There are plenty of jobs with decent incomes often right out of school.

"Find some hobbies"

There's no time for hobbies if you are doing step 1, even then, picking up hobbies is a waste of time

If you are doing a full time job while a full time student then yeah you are right. But otherwise no.

"Just work out bro"

Working out doesn't impress women at all, if anything, it only impresses other men.

Wrong, women like sexy looking bodies too and its been shown that women prefer a man with an athletic build.

People just cant accept that its 90% social skills (that you develop early in life) and also being naturally gifted (looks, height, etc).

Yeah but having a nice car, nice place, and going to a nice restaurant really helps too. In fact most men in women's erotic or romantic fiction are high status, powerful, or wealthy,

TermAggravating8043 · 2023-10-09T06:54:56+00:00

You know what doesn’t work? A terrible attitude

No_String_533 · 2023-10-09T15:55:28+00:00

Living your life to get the approval of women is an unhealthy mindset that leads to misery.

You should have a hobby because it makes YOU happy

You should exercise because it makes YOU healthy

Start thinking about what makes YOU happy and stop thinking about what makes women happy

Title	Self improvement is bullshit
Author	hasanlu
Upvotes	33
Comments	46
Date	October 9, 2023 12:55 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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