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dick_head4life · 2022-08-02T22:55:21+00:00

You had an “in” when you had your hands in hers. I think you dropped the ball when you started trying different things to see which would give you a reaction.

For the future, don’t focus too much on “oh she looked at me slightly longer when I touched her shoulder vs her forehead what do?” The fact that she let you touch her is already a good sign. If she let you touch her hands, hold onto them just a bit longer than you would a friend. If you’re rubbing her back, likewise. You’ll know when to stop when she tells you to, or you see a visible face of disgust. And If you’re ever unsure, ask.

runaround_fruitcop · 2022-08-03T05:43:02+00:00

As a woman with anxiety of touch it is so weird for me to be touched. It's not bad per se. I'm not angry at them for trying but it's like fake romantic touches are weird for me but I can do sexual touches just fine because it takes no emotions.

Ie. Emotional intimate seeming touches put me off. But sexual ones are more exciting

But, idk if she's the same. Just thinking out loud ish. I like to not show my feelings on my face so I don't give all my cards away. Maybe she's doing the same

sleepstages · 2022-08-03T10:09:37+00:00

I went on a date 2 months ago where I very clumsy grabbed the girl by her waiste while playing. In that moment she froze and looked very serious. I thought I messed up. Later when I slept with her she confessed she loved when I grabbed her, and she had frozen because she unexpectedly got aroused, and she didn't expect me to touch her in that moment. Of course this girl already had a thing for me. However at the time I thought she got creeped out.

Vinniikii · 2022-08-02T23:03:14+00:00

Sounds clumsy, one of the outdated PUA escalation narratives. Easy to picture the awkward novice grabbing hands, affectedly shoulder touching, almost an ass grab but still respectful.

You might have conditioned her to believe your touch is tentative and uncertain. Very unlikely you will mutely escalate. Perhaps you could start playing footsie under the table, high creep percentage this route.

Easiest affirmation is always in the moment. Hand on her back, tell her, “You feel good.” Even if she doesn’t immediately start kissing your hands and features in response, she can approve of your interest.

Perhaps she Coyly steps aside. Perhaps she smiles and compliments you also. Perhaps cool, she rebuffs you. In that instant, you know where you stand.

Part of seduction is preparing the scene and moment. We transition from strangers to know each other.

There isn’t a 100% cheat code that will cause woman to love your touch. Remember most women are touched non-consensually and by creeps, a constant fluttering brush of stolen proximity. But touch is also healing.

As described, sounds like your date’s love is for sale. She will tolerate hand-holding, with the attached suggestion you buy her more rings; she will tolerate your coy touches, attached to a date; but she does not truly love you.

Eventually the serial dater is revealed when his only dates are sold love, with no one genuinely pursuing him. Buying love is self defeating for many.

atomant88 · 2022-08-02T23:06:54+00:00

dont touch anyone without their consent

incognito3107 · 2022-08-03T10:19:09+00:00

Touch should be naturally corresponding with emotions and dynamics between you. If tension between you is flat, escalating touch would be just out of the place. Remember to keep the game between you casual, natural and positive. Watch her reactions, pay attention to emotions and adjust.

Technical_Hawk8547 · 2022-08-05T04:04:42+00:00

Some women are just shy, it’s up to you to adjust is all. Seems like you got too in your own head and scared yourself. She could potentially have felt that awkwardness and began to be awkward in response. From what you described above it sounds like you didn’t really touch her to much tbh or at least not to the extent you think you did. Some girls also aren’t a huge fan of PDA.

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