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[–]BensonInFL 4 years ago [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link
it gets worst when i remind myself that they on the other hand likely have an army of options.
They have much fewer options than you realize. Did you ever stop and think why 50% of the bar patrons or online dating app members are female? If they could find boyfriends that quick, they would have already, and it would be 99.9% guys.
The biggest mistake men make is thinking that girls want the same things as guys do.
First.. a *Disclaimer*... this is an internet post, not a book that covers every possibility.. I'm talking about the bell curve here...
Guys basically want to score, and yes it takes some effort to do this. Girls can have sex whenever they want, they don't see any value in that. They are looking for a monogamous long term partner that they can confide in, be vulnerable with, who is strong, charming, funny, caring, smart and will support and take care of them. Looking at what each side wants from this lens... it's a lot harder for females to find what they're looking for. Yes, women want a lot more, but this plays nicely for men because it means that *looks* are a lot smaller of a slice and hence overall importance than it is for guys looking for girls.. for us, it is everything... a lot of the other attributes are a lot easier to improve.
How can i tell if someone is legit interisted in me or just being friendly/nice ?
You can tell interest by reading body language, verbal queues, level of attention in real life and texting, her response when you try to escalate, etc. The reason to have heightened social awareness is not so you can cut bait, but so you know exactly where you are and can improve/fix whatever is holding you back to take things to the next level with her.
At some level, it doesn't really matter. I'm a guy in my 40's who sleeps with girls in their early 20's. I can tell you with absolute certainty that exactly 0% of the girls are interested in me when I first approach them, and worse than that, most aren't even friendly or nice. It's a process to make them comfortable, to gain their trust, to be friends with them, to share intimate things, to create attraction and slowly escalate physically.
-B
[–]synki2_ 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ita not 50/50 on dating apps bit rather 80/20
[–]TripleDallas123 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah no, Dating apps are definitely not 50/50, I've borrowed females friends tinders to mess around and they have literally hundreds of likes while most guys struggle to get even 5
[–]BensonInFL2 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I've borrowed females friends tinders to mess around
I have as well, sometimes after I sleep with a girl we go through her tinder together and I ask her why she chose me over some of the other guys she matched with... the most enlightening.. or craziest thing I've heard time and time again.. is that if the guy is *too* good looking, the girls assume that he's just a fuckboy and move on...
and they have literally hundreds of likes while most guys struggle to get even 5
Yes, this is true, but that doesn't mean there are so many more guys than girls. There are 2 factors at play here:
1) Guys swipe right on almost everything.. or everything, and see what they catch and if they want to talk with anyone later.. after a match.. girls are super selective and only swipe right 5% -15% of the time
2) Most of the girls want the SAME 5% of guys on tinder. These top 5% fuck 99% of the girls.. they don't want relationships because there's a never ending stream of girls.. this sucks for the girls and they eventually roll off after riding the dick carousel... The other 95% of guys get extremally few matches and are mostly ignored.
[–]hyxhufchy66666666 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women have thousands of options….. what you hear is “they don’t have high quality options”. I knows 3s that have hundreds of messages from men. You’re delusional if you can’t understand this
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You have to write field reports on how your approaches goes.
Being in your 40s and banging girls in their 20s is the dream life.
Please tell me you are also bald
[–]BensonInFL 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Thanks! Yes, its a lot of fun, I won't lie
Haha.. no.. but I'm starting to get grey hairs in my beard and have to color it all the time..
[–]JohnZoffman 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do you do it though ?
Do you memorize techniques and shit
[–]OrzhovPalatine 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Perhaps i'm being pessimistic ?
Answered your own question, yes you are. I can feel it through your message. Bare in mind your title was "I have no options". You at least are self aware you have a problem.
How can i tell if someone is legit interisted in me
Dont worry about that yet, work on being someone interesting and fix that lack of self confidence you have.
If someone is legit interested they're linger around you, wait on your word, etc etc.
Again shouldnt be thinking that far ahead with your defeatist mindset. Fix that first, get some new clothes, work out, cut your hair. Whatever makes you feel confident.
[–]Cybion_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm sorry if i didn't state this in the post but i have none of the flaws you indicate except the pessimisim wich i now see it's my current problem. I worked myself more than you might think and yes i am attractive even some girls told me that but for some reason i can't get past the friend zone.
[–]OrzhovPalatine 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If you're constantly getting put in the friendzone then you dont show intent.
If you give off friend vibes she will put you in the friendzone, if you create sexual tension then she understands this iant going to be a "friendly" interaction.
[–]Cybion_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How can i do that ? I will never make a move unless i'm 110% sure she likes me back.
[–]OrzhovPalatine 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I will never make a move unless i'm 110% sure she likes me back.
That's your problem. You hesitate unless it's a easy lay up.
When you meet a girl for the first time she needs to quickly categorize you to manage time because she likely gets hit on often.
If you're being super friendly, ponderous and cautious (cause you need 110% success rate) she will get friend vibes from you and put you there.
If you flirt, tease her and more importantly risk rejection (what you arent doing) then she understands this interaction is romantic and not friendly.
[–]Cybion_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry for the late reply.
I get what your saying. Meet, befriend then flirt. What then ? How do i know she is interisted to take it to the next level ? And what time would it be ideal to do so ?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How do you get back self confidence
[–]OrzhovPalatine 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do things that make you feel confident. This can range from changing your wardrobe, working out, getting a new hair cut, etc etc.
[–]hyxhufchy66666666 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably very ugly looking. Sorry bro.
[–]5_7pickup 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I really doubt youre putting yourself out there.
Go solo to night clubs 5 days a week to meet girls. Thats putting yourself out there.
[–]Cybion_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
5 days ? Weak. I already did 10, first few days were brutal and was going to give up on day 3 until i got drunk and met some friends that day. Meet some girls after but only 1 was compatible and interisted in me. Problem is she lives in another country.
Just my luck😢
[–]5_7pickup 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
5 days PER week, not total. Just going out isnt enough, you need to actually approach girls. Approach 15 girls per night. 5 nights a week. Thats 85 girls youll meet per week.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like you aren't very attractive then. Make yourself attractive and then people will be interested in you.
[–]Cybion_ 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Already am actually. I just don't have anyone that desires me more than a friend. Either that or i don't know how to go past the friend zone.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Lol if you say so
Not just me, them. I noticed you also helped me in my previous post so thanks btw.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Bro, if you were actually attractive, you would not be having this problem. Attraction creates interest, simple as that.
[–]Cybion_ 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your forgetting that physical attraction isn't everything. I'm not the most socially skilled person, so i could be at fault here. But the problem here is that i literally have no dating options.
[–]Leviathansplunge 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't tell yourself u got no options, they just haven't been revealed. Women have millions of options. So do you. You can literally meet anybody anywhere just ask out 10 women a day. If your rejection rate is 99%, u are still pulling 3 per month, it's all a numbers game, make it work for you.
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