80/20 and n-count question

nicethingyoucanthave · 2018-04-16T16:42:11+00:00

does this mean that these top 20% guys have n-counts of about 80 or so each?

Here's a dataset that I pulled out of my ass just trying to illustrate the hypothesis. This is a closed (more on that below) population of 100 males and 100 females - they are only having sex within the group. The x-axis is the promiscuity rank, meaning that the person at x=1 is the most promiscuous male or female. The y axis is the number of partners they've had.

The average number of partners for this entire population is 3.3 - that's the average for both the males and the females.
The top 20% of males have had 249 partners in total, which is 75% of all the sex that all the males have had.
For most males, the female that is at his promiscuity rank (which might roughly correspond to attractiveness) has had more partners than he has. To put that another way, it looks to the males that all the girls are sleeping around and having an easier time of it.
There are approximately an equal number of virgins - there's actually one more female virgin than male virgins. I created the population to have this feature because I was in another thread responding to someone who had a survey which found that 40% of teens were virgins, and the number for girls was slightly higher than for boys.

A note for blue pillers: I am not saying that this is evidence of anything - after all, I just admitted that I pulled it out of my ass. What I am saying is that this is a model showing how I think the world works. I am encouraging you to attack my TRP hypothesis by attacking the model. I'm trying to help you out here.

I think this model does generally correspond to the real world, with one big exception: the model is a closed population. In the real world, I think that more of the girls are having sex outside the population than the boys are. To put that another way, I think that high-status males remain high status throughout their lives, while promiscuity for the girls occurs during a narrower age window.

The effect of this difference would be to lower the peak of male promiscuity in any given age bracket.

cl3537 · 2018-04-16T16:08:20+00:00

Mental masturbation and totally irrelevant.

20% of guys are Chads is a poor assumption. That every Chad fucks all women is also a poor assumption he don't like uglies and all women are not whores fucking every Chad.

Answer is meaningless if the assumptions are all poor. The 80/20 rules just means the top 20% of guys are fucking most of the hot women. Yes Chad's n-count is high, who cares how high it is, that is up to Chad and if he chooses to go for quantity.

Wilt Chamberlain said he fucked over 20,000 women, and was said to be a virgin till 18. You do the Math of how that was possible.

FrogTrainer · 2018-04-16T17:12:48+00:00

I'm at exactly 80 (that I remember, there may be a couple more I was too drunk to recall later)

Most of them happened in college or early 20's. I was by no means a badass when it came to getting women. I would really only rate myself above average looks wise, and maybe a little smoother in the game dept. Among my guy friends, there were the guys who got laid regularly, and the guys who didn't. The guys who did were typically 80-100 n count by the time they got married. The guys that didn't were typically still in single digits (or just barely into the teens). In retrospect, the 80/20 rule was very real.

FuckboyAWALT · 2018-04-16T15:50:54+00:00

Why do you care about n count? You will never know if a girl is saying the truth so just let it go.

mrpthrowa · 2018-04-16T16:04:34+00:00

These numbers are to motivate you, they are not a target for your next maths PhD thesis.

MattyAnon · 2018-04-16T17:00:21+00:00

From what I've read here, it would not be uncommon to find that about 80% of the girls have an n-count of at least 20? (that number 20 may or may not be a coincidence related to 80/20)

Girls are more steady, clustering around the mean.

Men show the 80/20 rule (20% get 80% of the casual lays). Happens much more with casual (attractiveness based) than more lasting relationships (men paying a higher price via commitment).

2comment · 2018-04-16T19:30:23+00:00

In a society flowing with abundant resources, this is what the sexual marketplace will look like.

StickguyMB · 2018-04-16T16:08:23+00:00

Kinda something like that. And guys, OP might know that it's just an estimate

Iwannachokekatie · 2018-04-16T17:12:46+00:00

Everything about this post makes my head hurt.

mrpCamper · 2018-04-16T18:29:40+00:00

I had a very interesting experience in my early twenties where 60 of us were segregated off for 3 months to work on a project. I won't get into any details of the project. There were 30 men and 30 women all about age 22 to 24. All recent college graduates. The sexual activity of that time period boggled my mind at the time but after discovering RP it makes total sense.

Basically, it came down to most guys didn't get laid. a couple of the regulars (non chad types) had sex once with one of the girls. A few of the guys were Chads. There were about 5 hot girls. 5 decent looking girls and about 20 unacceptable pigs.

Most of the unacceptable pigs had sex with a few of the guys. no chads to my knowledge. All of the Chads had sex with all of the 5 hot girls and some of the decent looking girls. One of the hot girls also had sex with a non chad orbiter and one other guy. Yes, she slept with about 7 guys in 3 months.

The decent looking girls had sex with some of the Chads ONLY.

So, the Chads had about 7 out of the 30 girls each (all of the hotties and a couple of the decent looking ones).

A few of the second tier men had sex once with the bottom 2/3 of the women.

most men had no sex.

The top 5 girls had much sex with Chads. the next 5 girls had some sex with Chads. Some piggies had one drunken fling with a non chad. Some did not.

edit:

for clarity. We all went to another part of the country and lived and worked together for the time period.

throwawaytrp0000 · 2018-04-16T19:59:10+00:00

I posted a thread this this a few months ago.

The best reply on that thread in my opinion was this:

[–]StrongAffordance 8 points 3 months ago If you’re going to do try to use statistics here, you need to follow it through to the end, because what you’ll see is that by this logic men and women will have the same mean n count, but men will have a significantly higher standard deviation, and women will have a significantly higher median n count. What that means is that a random woman drawn from a hat is statistically likely to have a higher n count than a typical man drawn from a hat. It also means that at the extremes of the distribution, men will have higher highs (triple digit) and lower lows (zero). So as far as most people are concerned, a random woman they come across is likely to have a higher n count than them.

The_Lightskin_Wonder · 2018-04-16T20:23:42+00:00

Well I just want to say every time it has been mentioned (for me) ,the 80/20 rule never applied to 'partners slept with', in a real world example those top 20% guys are not going to sleep with 80 women.

They are going to go for the best kind, because in a real world situation it's impractical. If I fucked every girl that came my way there'd be no room for the more attractive ones. Not only that, but when you date women of lesser value they will be more clingy unlike a woman of your caliber. A woman on your level will provide qualities worth your time. Why put money into a race car and you spend most of your time driving it to work?

The rule was to show how the Dynamics of dating work and that women date up and men date down. not every beta has completely unappetizing qualities, and not every alpha male has the time or the will to fuck whoever, but simply the attractiveness to fuck whoever if he so pleases.

If this were a plain and simple math problem then you would be on the right track but I think it's silly to look at it so simply, but that's just me

McVaghunter · 2018-04-16T15:51:59+00:00

Stop daydreaming and get back to finishing your workout!

Title	80/20 and n-count question
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Date	April 16, 2018 3:42 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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