How To Get Girls: The Last Post You'll Ever Need!

Sed5 · 2011-07-09T17:27:36+00:00

In other words, the more amazing you become, and the more women like you and appreciate you and see you as a wonderful guy, the more they're going to want to hang onto you as a potential boyfriend.

And the more they're going to want to hang onto you as a potential boyfriend, the more they're going to want to slow things down, put on their best faces, and make sure you see them as fully 100% commitment-worthy.

That means, of course, that they can't be too honest about their pasts with you. They can't be too honest about their own selves with you. And they definitely can't go to bed with you too fast... lest you come to view them as loose, easy, or worse.

So much truth contained in 3 paragraphs.

nostrademons · 2011-07-10T11:13:17+00:00

Interesting to see all the applied game theory in here.

Imagine that Sue has a friend ("Brenda") who watches her relationship with Jerry unfold. Brenda is initially baffled why Sue ended up with the less devoted, less conventionally successful Jerry when Pete was willing to jump through hoops for her. Being a smart girl, though, Brenda comes to the same conclusion as Chase: it's because Sue slept with Jerry early, and the hormones have distorted her judgment.

So Brenda resolves to never sleep with a guy until they're in a committed monogamous relationship. When Jerry approaches her (having gotten tired of his fling with Sue) and asks her back to his place, she simply replies "Sorry, I don't sleep with guys on the first date. I'd like to go home now," and leaves. If he persists, she calls the cops.

There are two Nash equilibria to this game, depending on how much the participants value sex vs. relationships. When Brenda meets Pete, the Nash equilibrium is for Brenda to play hard-to-get and Pete to wine-and-dine her. If Pete does not wine-and-dine her, she shuts him down hard and goes to date some other guy, so this is his best strategy. If Brenda does not play hard-to-get, then she ends up going home with Jerry, Pete loses interest, and she loses out on what she really wants (a high-flying I-banker boyfriend).

However, when Jerry meets Sue, the equilibrium is for Jerry to move fast and Sue to sleep with him. If Jerry does not move fast, then Sue sleeps with some other guy. If Sue does not sleep with him, then she loses out on sex, which she presumably values more than the relationship with the high-flying I-banker.

The interesting effect comes when you look at each participant's view of the world. For Jerry, it seems like everyone woman wants sex and is receptive to his advances. Why? Because women who don't are wary of PUAs like Jerry, and at the first indication that he's someone like that, they're gone. So his worldview consists entirely of girls who are into sex, he builds his mating strategy on that, and then he sells it on the Internet to a bunch of AFCs.

For Sue, it seems like the world is split between suave, debonaire losers and phenomenally desirable guys who don't know how to make a move. Since the desirable guys never initiate, she always ends up going home with the losers, and then wonders why it is that the guys who she really wants to date never pay attention to her. She doesn't realize that it's because they figure some man-whore will steal her right out from under them anyway, and so it's not worth it for them to make the effort.

For Pete, the world seems like a frustrating place full of girls who show interest for one or two dates but then end up with some scumbag who doesn't respect them. He goes through a few hundred of these over a period of a year or two, along with a bunch of girls who he does respect but is incompatible with in some way, until he finally meets Brenda. They end up in a committed long-term relationship, and Pete starts making rather condescending remarks on the Internet to the effect of "Just keep trying. You'll find your soulmate eventually."

For Brenda, the dating world looks like a bunch of scumbags trying to get into her pants. She rejects guy after guy because they only want sex and want it now. She begins to become a misandrist, believing that all men secretly want to rape her. And then she meets Pete and they live happily ever after.

I personally know people in all four categories. I tend to swing to the Pete side; I'd imagine almost everyone here is a Jerry. I know lots of girls that are Sues, and a few that are Brendas. I see in the comments that the OP is a Jerry that is dating a Brenda. There's no real value judgment in the categories, it's just that they're optimizing for different outcomes. But a Jerry is unlikely to get a Brenda, and a Pete is unlikely to get a Sue.

lapuma · 2011-07-09T20:38:19+00:00

I have to admit that I agree with a lot of what this guy writes. Even though I don't like the same site being posted regularly - at least it contains what I believe to be quality advice.

2011-07-10T03:15:33+00:00

This is some good shit.

HazzyPls · 2011-07-10T06:44:24+00:00

This sounds like amazing advice.... Shame I can't use it fresh out of highschool... still living with my mom..... BUT, in a few years, I am going to commit this to memory.

2011-07-09T18:03:29+00:00

Damn, wish I read this before last night

discharge · 2011-07-10T00:36:49+00:00

This puts so many things in perspective for me. I always suspected something like this, but this just clarifies it.

2011-07-09T21:40:40+00:00

Goodjob, it is weird I never noticed that pattern. I was always wondering about this.

Groudy55 · 2011-07-10T07:52:01+00:00

If anyone else is like me and read this in a virgins perspective... Then were all proverbially fucked.

warpcowboy · 2011-07-10T07:55:07+00:00

So many quality insights that I'd actually like to see this on the sidebar.

RedPosterboard · 2011-07-10T08:40:49+00:00

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Title	How To Get Girls: The Last Post You'll Ever Need!
Author	RedPosterboard
Upvotes	93
Comments	26
Date	July 9, 2011 1:07 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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