I beat a guy up, and it backfired

streetlecture · 2018-10-23T03:31:10+00:00

There's no way this is real. Sounds like a Disney Channel TV show.

trpthrowaway2003 · 2018-10-23T03:30:28+00:00

To be fair, he is playing this with perfection.

You are kind of damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Just ignore him, it will take the fun away for him.

Also, if you're gonna hit someone in the jaw.. Do it hard enough so they can't talk after, let alone think of a tagline to ruin you.

Your credibility and reputation are pretty much fucked now though.

WolfenSatyr · 2018-10-23T03:20:05+00:00

The only way I see that you could have turned it against him was just after you pinned him to the wall you put a kiss on him and said "you still free tonight?"

The let him up, dust him off, and walk away. Maybe even spin around mid-stride and mimic a phone to your hear and mouth the phrase "call me"

But you got rough with him, totally entering his frame. You deserve the fallout for that. Learn from it and take the loss.

HurricaneHugues · 2018-10-23T05:51:49+00:00

You're dealing with a faggot who likes you. Everything he says is about some gay shit. There are actual dudes like that. They like to get hit and roughed up by other men. I'm not even joking. He gets off on that type of shit. It's like foreplay to him when u pin him against the wall or hit him. No joke. Don't bother with that homo.

Think about all your interactions with him. Doesn't it all seems a little odd? You mind your own business and he's somehoew always talking about some gay shit about u. Really sit down and think about it.

The others won't see it, but now you know.

BlackTemplar1989 · 2018-10-23T05:40:33+00:00

This is why being quick-witted is so important when it comes to quarrel with guys.

You could have easily turned the situation verbally by asking him why he's so obsessed with you being gay and he should outright ask for a date if that's what he wanted.

Now the damage is done and the only thing to do is to learn from it for the future.

BrodinsOats · 2018-10-23T06:41:49+00:00

If you were gonna go the violent route, you should have gone far enough that it was no laughing matter for him.

But you really shouldn’t go the violent route.

BloodSurgery · 2018-10-23T03:42:36+00:00

You punched him and he agreed and amplified? Well punch him even harder, until he bleeds and begs for mercy!

Quality advice guys, keep it up. Report to the principal, or whatever, I don't know much about American schools. Tell them that he started to bully you and you tried to defend yourself, because you didn't know what else to do, so you want to fix the problem once and for all, or something like that.

Punching him even harder won't do any better, like at all. Reputation, your family, maybe police, who knows how bad it can go.

AmazonAlphaMale · 2018-10-23T03:30:48+00:00

Do you have autism?

SanPedroLover_ · 2018-10-23T03:24:42+00:00

You didnt damage him enough, imo.

Talk shit get dealt with. Dont start nothing, wont be nothing. Thats how i was raised.

Young people are too soft and sensitive these days.

Dabunghole · 2018-10-23T04:30:41+00:00

Just move on. Take the loss and hit the gym. Then fuck his girlfriend if he has one and post it on Snapchat.

Brutal13 · 2018-10-23T04:44:19+00:00

Read both of your posts. Long time The Red Pill reader and, yes, I graduated already.

I have questions:

Where do you live?(Country)
How old are you?

Respond and I'll drop more points.

Firstly, sadly no one advised to avoid physical confrontation. Consequences could be dangerous: legal and health. You should not physically attack anyone who is not treating you physically. Simple. I'd fight only to protect my family/friends and myself. You can and should strike first if you see that it's imminent. In your case, I don't see any reason to use force. But, hey listen, we all were young.

Secondary, as a redpiller you need to understand your feelings and thoughts. Why you did you punch him?Is he too cool and you just envy? Or you feeling upset that a scumbag like him, who have been trolling and stalking guys(you mentioned that he basically ruined social life of others just for fun). Or perhaps, he just found a tiny hole where he break your ego. He can feel that you're trying to increase your SMV etc. Ask yourself questions why you feel and think.

Be happy that you had that experience. It's gonna help you a lot when you reach adult status.

What I would advise now:

Tell your director, or who manages the school(your class) that this guy is a predator and stalker. Tell that he would make fun of people based on their religion/nationality/race etc. Remember all cases, don't lie and show facts. You can even ask to invite guys who have been trolled by him to back up your claims.

It's gonna help you legally, and you will not look like a dumb wit psycho wrestler.

Make a video, if you're so snapchat oriented. And say something like this — I merely slapped him. He is an asshole who trans passed all borders of sanity. He just stalk people, I'm not the one. One slap to recharge his brain. You want to keep easy and fun. Check Nata Diaz's videos. Be calm but confident. It's just a slap, he looked no good, I just wanted to help him. I bet, you all guys, wanted to do the same. We all like it rough.

Worst advice, besides beat him-esque, are to ignore him. Don't ignore, use his tactics. Have fun too.

The only thing I found suspicious that your teammates from the wrestler team would laugh. I mean they can laugh, but they should you stop from that scene. I joined MMA club 5 years ago and I'd say that many guys respect personal borders of others and would not make stupid jokes, fighter's culture. Looks like your team has no culture. Consider to drop it off and join another one, where adults go.

Edit: mistypes
Edit2: one more mistype

HumptyDumptyFellHard · 2018-10-23T03:07:05+00:00

Just ignore it. Can’t really do anything about it. Act like nothing’s wrong and don’t give a fuck. It seems likes getting a reaction from you

Rollo_Mayhem3 · 2018-10-23T03:33:46+00:00

I would, based on what you posted so far, making a report with the school guidance counselor or vice principal. Simply state that this guy has repeated call you 'gay' and goes out of his way to say this to you. You told him to stop and he won't.
You can write it in a letter and have your parents sign if you want. Regardless, of what you think, you are being harassed and bullied, and that kind of behavior interferes with your learning. I would try to record him making fun of you a few times. If he continues or crosses a line, then you can let him have it, if you feel like it.

OneHandToFapThemAll · 2018-10-23T06:03:32+00:00

lol what happened to being stoic?

if you were gonna beat him up you had to make it count. you punched him in the face which meant repercussions no matter how hard you hit so idk why you did it softly enough for him to joke about it lol. you still get punished by the school or whatever and he gets off with barely a scratch.

this was the worst possible response. should have done nothing at all or more than what you did.

derrtderr · 2018-10-23T05:54:30+00:00

Have none of you seen Fight Club? Remember when Brad Pitt gets his shit kicked in?

“You don’t know where I’ve beeeeen!”

Who really won that fight?

Ask this guy out already. He’s clearly into you.

sx_appeal · 2018-10-23T06:31:55+00:00

I know nothing about your school system and if it could mess up your future if you hit him badly but whatever you do, don't mess up *your* future? That's the most important thing and you need to know that looking back at it in a few years, it will be too trivial because you will have other problems.

If you think it is a lost battle, then just act as if it is lost and don't give a fuck about him. Don't check snapchat shit or FB shit that will make you depressed or furious. Just leave it alone.

If you think you can win this battle, then do what you need to do but again don't mess up your future if what you will do could mess it up (like being a criminal).

I truly wish you can figure it out.

juliusstreicher · 2018-10-23T10:08:52+00:00

You didnt punch him. Had you punched him, he wouldnt speak as he did. You fondled him.

quadraticreciprocal · 2018-10-23T18:13:39+00:00

This is how you hold frame people.

salamchik · 2018-10-23T04:21:40+00:00

I would just put him on the ground and slap him with a smile on my face until he gets tired... after 10 slaps his enthusiasm and humour would disappear. Then I would ask him : will u continue to be bitch?

Show your wrestling abilities but make it fun for yourselves by not showing any aggressiveness. According to the book of 48 laws of power: Aggressiveness shows your weakness. Do not take him seriously, treat him like a stupid child.

FearGarbhArMait · 2018-10-23T04:27:34+00:00

Hahahaha, the teenage darktriad jester. There are only two ways to handle a real jester, crush them or befriend them. You caused him injury but not enouh that he should fear you.

Ironic_Gangster · 2018-10-23T07:01:34+00:00

Challenge him to a straight up fight in front of a few people. Establish time and place. If he laughs in your face again, shove him. Get physical and hurt him enough that he will need to fight back. Smack his face, shove him, physically control his movement so that he must acknowledge you. Be prepared to fight him right there.

dickpillsjones · 2018-10-23T03:10:16+00:00

Damn that sucks. I remember your post from the other day. How old are you? I presume under 18 and in Highschool

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What you SHOULD have done is beat him up a little worse until he wasn’t laughing anymore. That’s okay that you didn’t though. Don’t beat yourself up

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I would A) find him outside of school and beat him up worse OR B) just continue working on yourself and stop giving a fuck about this faggot. Get better and better at wrestling, and at other stuff, until you feel superior

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Even if you decide to do A, you should also do B. Also realize that if you beat the shit out of him you could get arrested so beware. But if you’re young (under 18), Maybe go for it. Make sure to break his nose and bloody him a bit this time. Keep punching until he begs you to give up. Then keep punching him some more.

Gravel_Roads · 2018-10-23T08:37:43+00:00

You tried to solve this problem by becoming an even bigger bully than your bully. And you failed. Now try it like an actual adult and ignore him. He would not be getting under your skin if you didn't care. Physical retaliation is a hallmark of a person losing control, not taking it.

It sucks, man. I'm sorry, that sounds terribly embarassing. But you're a wrestler and he's a "skinny asshole". You're making him look like the brave underdog standing up to the thin-skinned bruiser. Stop needing to win every fight and learn to walk away from children. Even if you beat him all, all he has to do is stay calmer than you, and he will still look like the winner.

Ohboohoolittlegirl · 2018-10-23T08:58:55+00:00

Proof you can't just follow RP advice without scrutinizing it. Getting physical is always the worst advice you can get, cause it's not Alpha at all. What you could have done is turn the narrative to him being obsessed with you.. Now, you made yourself look absolutely stupid and he was expecting and hoping for your response, he already had it planned out. Don't play people's homegame.

Concernedblue · 2018-10-23T08:16:42+00:00

All you got left is to aggree and amplify

Rape him in the ass dude

Random_throwaway_000 · 2018-10-23T13:21:34+00:00

jesus Christ, I'm being molested. so this is why you like wrestling so much, lots of intimacy with other guys. Enjoying it?

This is called having frame.

I decided fuck it, if I punch him, he won't mess with me. So I punched him on the jaw.

This is called losing frame. Any questions?

Recieved advice to rough him a bit

Where? By who? Was it on here? 90% of the time, violence is not the best solution.

Dirkz · 2018-10-23T05:22:50+00:00

I'm on the other guys side, I think you have legitimate repressed homosexual tendencies... who gives a fuck what he says? Amused mastery dude. Punching some dude is the ultimate frame break and you looked like a bitch to everyone.

NotoriousSnake · 2018-10-23T03:37:37+00:00

I'd beat him up worse if he says anything again.

I'm a BJJ guy so I'd choke him out... can't say shit when you're gasping for air

Title	I beat a guy up, and it backfired
Author	Studioyacht
Upvotes	8
Comments	80
Date	October 23, 2018 3:02 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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