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[–]pipboy90 24 points25 points26 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for posting. I'm jealous that you're learning this stuff at such a young age. I still struggle with approach anxiety and I'm 24. I need to make getting rejected by X amount of girls my goal too.
[–]MaxFlexins 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Haha. Maybe i should make an approach anxiety post? do you think that can help you out? I think i have a good enough experience and knowledge to write about one at this point. But maybe i should finish the 100 set challenge first, i'm at 65 sets or something like that as of right now. Only 35 to go!
[–]pipboy90 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sure, it would be interesting to hear how you see things mentally. I just discovered Sasha Daygame last weekend (when you posted his video, I think) and I think he's awesome. I think my problem with AA is I get so worked up with what's going on in my head that I don't think about how I want the girl to feel. Like making her feel good, giving her a genuine compliment, making her day better, etc. It simplifies things when you look at it that way. It's less about you more about her. I definitely need more practice either way.
[–]MaxFlexins 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't get too worked up about how the girl feels. Simply by approaching her and complimenting her she's gonna have a good day. Try to have fun yourself and the girl will follow. Don't think k about what you're going to say, the interaction is dyanmic its better to just say hi and take it from there. Practice is always good
[–]WeedluvinOzzo 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dayum then I think I have a serious anxiety problem then, just thinking about me being with a chicks gives me a horrible feeling in my stomach. Also when I go a strip club with buddies of mine I always have to step out to get some air or I'll feel like throwing up of all the hot women, and I'm not a fan of strip clubs. Also I'm 20
[–]drieszz 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would also like an AA post!
[–][deleted] 30 points31 points32 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Think quality over quantity now. You need to stop telling yourself I'm going to approach girls, or run game. You need to telling yourself you want to get laid.
[–]MaxFlexins 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Haha, yeah. I'm going to experiment with night game next where escalation is very possible. I'm also working on forming emotional connections with the people I meet. And maybe start approving very very attractive girls instead of just attractive
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If you're not getting results, don't force your standards up like that. Your standards and entitlement come naturally with real successes.
[–]MaxFlexins 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The post was unfinished when you read it, I didn't include my results in it. I have a few dates lined up and a girl who told me we can be FWBs
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
ah ok, my bad, congrats.
[–]MaxFlexins 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha not at all appreciate the feedback
[–]diversification 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, I mean, you got numbers and a date - why not start escalating those girls?
[–]Fliffs 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Best way I've heard it (in a completely different context) was quantity drives quality. Make options for yourself, decide later.
[–]MaxFlexins 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is My mindset exactly
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Out of curiosity, what do you look like? When people say they are 'fairly attractive' I always wonder how they look.
[–]MaxFlexins 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm middle eastern... but i don't look like the sterotypical middle eastern. Some girls told me i look Italian, some told me i look Brazilian ALOT of girl had no idea what my race is. I'm into bodybuilding, fairly toned, six pack, decent size chest (working on my arms a little bit but they're still good sized) but this doesn't help me out much with girls as i usually wear a sweater. Some girl have told me i'm very attractive, others say im not it's all relative.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks!
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm also middle eastern who gets Italian and Brazilian! Where from, friend? (Persian here)
I'm an Iraqi :P
[–]rickraus 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the inspiration! Give me more confidence man I eat this shit up! AA is by far the biggest cripple that I have.
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[–]MaxFlexins 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes that's how I went about it. I was very happy with myself after each rejection. And I got pleasantly surprised when I got my first # close. It was what worked for me because as you experience rejection you finally experience how insignificant it is. So go out there and get rejected!! You never know it can turn out good! You win certainly laugh about it after. Good luck and let me know how it goes!!
[–]jamrock100 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are the best bro!!!!!👍👍
[–]Nenananas 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I just have to say again I love your posts, same age, and apparently even the same favorite dating coach! (Sasha) It's like fate is telling me to take action! But why is it so hard? Why can you do it and I can't? There is no reason, I must take action! (and that's the freaking 100th time I said that)
[–]MaxFlexins 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha thanks dude! and trust me i know it's hard... and i'm trying to help out one of my friends who has severe approach anxiety. I somehow managed to make him approach 3 girls IN ONE DAY (i offered to buy him shit if he does it. Anyway, first of all let me tell you that it's a process. I took small steps... and then things just escalated. Here's my suggestion to what you can try. The method i had my self was the "GET REJECTED" method which i went up to 5 GIRLS told them they were cute... like so "Hey, i think you're cute, and i wanna get to know you, so can i have your number" Easy, quick simple. The reason this works is that you are pulling the trigger when you ask for the number, and you will find out rejection isn't so bad. In fact, i think in your case as someone who WANTS to take action, you will be very happy with yourself. So, how about this... tomorrow, go talk to a girl you find attractive, doesn't matter where, and get rejected. After that happens, next day get rejected by two, and so forth. I'd say 5 rejections is enough to just see how unscary rejection actually is... and then you'd move on to actually trying to go for the girls by having longer conversations, getting to know what they like doing, etc. Also, be realistic about your expectation. A lot of attractive girls have boyfriends, I'd say your chances are about 50/50. So, don't feel beaten if they give you the "I have a boyfriend". If you need any more, just hit me up i'll be happy to help you in any way i can.
[–]Blue_Clouds 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Situations where you approach girls who have their boyfriend with them are useful.
[–]MaxFlexins 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I completely agree, If they are men present in the interaction i have noticed that they would completely respect my approach. Especially, when you stop pursuing the girl (atleast romantically) when she says she has a boyfriend, i generally keep talking to them anyway (not to get a lay or their number but to have a pleasant conversation.)
[–]Blue_Clouds 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Even if they end up stabbing you their feedback is genuine, useful and to the point.
[–]MaxFlexins 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd say... 99.99% of the boyfriends won't stab you. lol
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She was on the phone and she saw you do it before?
Enter me, I'm so bad with faces that I approached the same girl twice at school, then at a party (In my defense it was dark and she had a costume) :p
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
/r/seduction: The redpill edition
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[–]aNewH0pe6 points 11 years ago [recovered] (11 children) | Copy Link
What is this "redpill"? I see getting thrown around rathe often, but never explained what it means.
[–]i_am_new_in_here 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go to /r/theredpill and see for yourself
[–]save_the_rocks 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The Red Pill is a subreddit that discusses how men can avoid ending up in bad relationships with women by being assertive/asserting masculinity.
After hearing it talked about like the boogeyman, I recently sub'd to it and have come to the conclusion that it's one of those things that everybody has an opinion of... whether or not they have ever spent much time there. If you're looking for cautionary tales of guys getting into bad relationships or having good ones turn sour, it has a lot of excellent source material.
[–]dougsherman 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think it's disingenuous to not even acknowledge the blatant hatred towards women in that sub. That is why it has the reputation that it does. There's a lot of good stuff about self-improvement, etc, but the undercurrent of hatred and resentment is overpowering.
[–]save_the_rocks 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Maybe. I've also seen people in TRP, since I subbed two weeks ago, coach others through really intense emotions and come to terms with less than ideal situations like divorce or custody battles.
Subreddits as they mature tend to become more positive and supportive places. I think that's true for TRP based on the way I've heard it described, what I see and what seems to be it's trajectory.
[–]dougsherman 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No dude, not maybe. Absolutely. I've sure you've seen guys get help there who are going through hard times. As I said, there preach a lot of good stuff about self-improvement, etc.
But you gotta take the bad with the good, and whether or not they help some people and preach self-improvement, the hatred and resentment is still there, and it damn near completely drowns out anything worthwhile to take away from there.
This is currently the top post in the sub. It's a story from a dude whose GF admitted while high on painkillers that she lied about how many people she had slept with. Is that something to be mad about? Totally. I would probably have ended the relationship too.
His message to the sub, though?: ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT. How the fuck is that the logical conclusion?
One woman was like this -> All women are like this.
That's how it goes there. Someone posts a story about how a girl they thought "wasn't like this", then was, and now "AWALT". Go read the comments and tell me that they don't reek of judgement, resentment, etc.
Maybe the sub is going in the right direction. I'd hope so. One reason I like /r/seduction is that there aren't a lot of places that "give it to you straight" when it comes to dating/relationships, and TRP could be one of those subs. I just don't see their attitude towards women changing, it's completely ingrained.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
AWALT isn't literal. Assuming AWALT is part of the sexual strategy, basically.
[–]Taeyyy-1 points 11 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
its a very mysoginistic subreddit
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The guys don't come across as misogynistic as much as just incredibly insecure assholes that thrive off control. I have never heard the undertones of so much emotional damage that needs to be directed at women. Or whatever the fuck the problem is.
Getting laid and being nice to girls are mutually compatible.
[–]cumdumpster_Ruto -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's seddit for people who don't need a lollipop and rainbow view of the world. The red pill is a place for realists
[–]HOMINGPIGEONMEURTITS -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's a fetish page for trading crusty semen-stained copies of Robert Greene books and reinforcing each other's depression and/or psychopathy and/or crime movie-like fantasy of how the world is some sort of dark and evil place. You know, the types of teenagers who just watched American Psycho for the first time and want to use that as a how-to guide on becoming influential.
More simply, it's like the male version of feminism. Worse, actually, since they quite often don't even claim to believe in that stuff for a good cause.
[–]MaxFlexins 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's because i laughed her off? I laughed her off because of the ego she had, firstly it was implying that there are no other beautiful girls besides her, and also because she was someone who has a severe case of social conditioning. Maybe it came off wrong? anyway i fixed the post to share my thought process, because I don't like being misunderstood . Also, her reaction was generally one that genuinely induced laughter. I laugh at people's reactions all of the time, because it is genuinely funny sometimes. It's also very easy for me to laugh, so there's that.
[–]MaxFlexins 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't have any clue what you mean by that but okay...
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hay another 18 yo on this subreddit! I tell you, the library is the place to go. 99% of my hookups have come from there. Also, in addition to library I like the nearest Starbucks around 1030-1100. Walk them back while chatting and can confirm if they are a crazy or not.
[–]shoshone1 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It also works when women approach you.
[–]Curiositygun 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
i never rememeber sasha saying kino during the day was a nono
He does in his video series about the book. He explicitly says not to touch the girl unless you are hugging or something after the interaction or holding your hand out upfront. I agree with his no kino theory because it can certainly make a girl uncomfortable. either way the hand shake thing I suggested is pretty neat sometimes.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So how many total girls did you approach? 30? I dont have the luxury of a campus every day and even then it's like 1 hot girl per 30 minutes.
Total girls right now as of today is 87. I'm pushing hard for 100. I wanna go out tonight
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
30 girsl? R you nuts? How many felt akward? Jeesh bro, slow down.
[–]MaxFlexins 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
For me none of them felt awkward. I was simply expressing my self. For the girls on the other hand, a select few felt a bit awkwardawkward, most girls thankedthanked me for approaching them.
Cool.
[–]zach84 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's awesome what you're doing, but I don't approach willy nilly on campus for exactly the reason that is happening to you: you get a BAD rep as "that guy",and that will bite you in the ass, as it has
[–]MaxFlexins 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't give a fuck I'd rather be the guy known for his confidence not the guy known for his silence
[–]zach84 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's fair man. Definitely admirable
[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
A lot of the FRs seem to have very toxic undertones to all of the confidence. Making it all about you is a very unattractive and flat out flawed way of thinking.
[–]pipboy90 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
What's a better way to frame it in your opinion?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Viewing the women you encounter as people with real feelings and opinions. Rejection isn't saving you from them like you're gods gift to women. OP only just started talking to them.
They may not like you, and that's okay. Don't act as though you're the center of the universe.
[–]MaxFlexins 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I view woman as people too, but if they are stuck up I am simply not interested in them. The same way I am not interested in stuck up men. Stuck up people are stuck up people period. I don't care for rejection because it doesn't hurt me. I don't view girls who reject me as objects, I simply move the fuck on. You said I'm acting like the center of the universe because I love my self? I find my self to be an interesting person with amazing qualities, and when the girls pass on me its them losing the opportunity to meet me as well as me losing the opportunity to meet them, except in their case theyd have to wait for other men, where as I can approach any one I want to at this point. Self love is not bad, and people need to understand that.
I misread what you said earlier then. I don't think self love is bad in the slightest, I just mean don't base every reaction as a reflection of you.
[–]MaxFlexins 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
haha yeah, that's what i'm trying to say in my post. Because if you base each reaction as a reflection of you, you are investing in the reaction more than you are investing in the interaction. Cheers.
Its awesome that you recognize that you need to have talents beyond beauty to be "valuable" and I don't doubt at all that in between chatting up girls you are nurturing those skills, which is going to pay dividends for the rest of your life. My sister described it as "The best relationship I will ever have is the one I have with myself".
[–]Confluenced 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Fuck that noise. I am attractive, in shape, make over 100k/year, and have an amazing life. I have no AA because woman are literally winning at life if they get to speak with me. How many men are like me? 1% of the population? Maybe? This is how a man who is always improving himself should think.
I used to approach women thinking what they would feel, their opinions, etc. It's all bullshit. Women want to be fucked hard and led by a strong man. If you are that man, approach and start gaming. If they reject, it's their loss. Laugh it off & move on.
[–]HOMINGPIGEONMEURTITS 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Assuming you don't harbour a negative attitude towards women, I like this view.
[–]nintendomaster24 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This guy fucking gets it
wow
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