Nothing brings results?

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skyburnsred · 2018-06-24T20:06:48+00:00

It's not that I don't realize I'm the one doing work, it's just that I don't seem to have an attractive life no matter what I do. It's like I have a permanent reputation as a loser. Most of the stuff I do for myself, it's just frustrating that I never seem to be rewarded with praise, friends, women or anything for any ssuccess I achieve. But yet every other guy I see around me gets a new job, takes some trip, or just posts some opinion and gets all this praise, attention, love from people.

It just makes me feel like my life doesn't matter to anyone other than myself...it gets old after a while

JimBeamAndCoke2016 · 2018-06-24T20:18:21+00:00

A decent job and a good physique are attraction builders, not the cause of the attraction. Women won't be drawn to you simply because of these. You still have to do the approaching.

Count your blessings though. At least you get attention from ugly girls. I don't even manage that.

recyclablebanthas · 2018-06-25T02:54:22+00:00

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So I don't have any issues with girls once I hang with them.

Can you be more specific?

What issues don't you have?
Do you mean to say that everything is clear sailing if you can only get to the point of hanging out one on one?
How are you setting up your meets? How is that part going wrong for you?

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But I feel like nothing I do increased my general attraction. I workout, have a decent job, etc.

You're talking about a bunch of things as if they matter in attraction. But what matters is not really so much your outward appearance or income. Instead, James Marshall does a decent job explaining how emotional impact is the missing ingredient most of the time. People focus on getting things or achieving things, as if that helps them navigate a social interaction better. It does not. People will decide how you fit into their lives, according to the emotional impact you have on them. Two big aspects of this impact are:

Being able to truly own what you want. This is easier said than done, but being unapologetic in the expression of your desires, is a very attractive thing.
Being aware of what she wants and being able to calibrate/adapt according to that.

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Not really much of a social life which is probably a big contribution...

This is a big fucking contribution. If you handle your social life right, by finding social events that allow you to meet people who are pretty much gathering to meet other strangers, you can make this a whole hell of a lot easier by exposing yourself to way more people and giving yourself practice at using your social skills.

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I just feel like the only attention I really get from girls are from ugly ones.

Anyone ever experience this?

You're describing confirmation bias and low self-esteem, which are very human things that all of us suffer from at some point.

And if you think about, this belief you've expressed is quite ridiculous on its face. Ugly and beautiful are largely subjective. Have you ever been in a room full of guys trying to decide on who is a "10?" There's never any consensus. One man's "10" is another man's "6" or "7." And one guy's "10" is usually put down as a "6" or lower.

So knowing this, you're saying that the only girls who seem to be interested in you are ones you personally just happen to find ugly. This assumes that your personal taste is related to all the women you see. Your taste doesn't determine what others around you like. Saying this is kind of like saying that you like a certain brand of car so that means the car salesman will only want to sell you one you don't like.

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>> Unless you're famous or a male model, you have to do ALL OF THE WORK.

Had to step in here, because this is incomplete and inaccurate in its current form.

Inner game is required even if one is a model. Even female models who you'd think have it easy, really don't. Everyone has some sort of work to do, even if they're struggling on something different than what you're struggling with.
And when it comes to male models, they still need to know how to get the hell out of their own way or they're going to fuck themselves out of results even if the girls are literally trying to close themselves. (I've seen this repeatedly.)
You should never be doing ALL the work. That's just inaccurate. In ALL seductions, someone will initiate. If she isn't, then sure, the guy can. And from that point on, both people have to be cooperating and putting some amount of work in, or it simply won't work. Even a really "meek" girl will be doing something to help make it happen, even if it's just going alone with what's happening.

DarkArtsPUA11 · 2018-06-25T02:56:59+00:00

very very common. what you're experiencing is typical treatment for a male that is in the bottom 80% of looks. i know exactly what you are talking about and essentially deal with it as well. on the surface, it's not really a big deal. because i look completely average, about a 5/10 or 6/10 in looks, no one pays attention to me in public, which can be good. i don't get heckled at in grocery stores or while walking. i am invisible, to men and women.

obviously this does nothing for you in the club, because no decent looking girls will show interest in you. the only initial interest i would get is from fat ugly black girls. this is why nowadays i just simply don't go to nightclubs to get women. i've debated about getting back into it and approaching it differently, but at the end of the day you still have to waltz your ass out to the club and do approaches. whereas with online you can sit on your ass and hit up girls as you do your daily routines. my advice to you: focus on how you can offer girls value in other ways besides being a good looking guy, because this is the key ingredient that you're missing and most likely will never be able to obtain

hashishandbeer · 2018-06-24T21:35:19+00:00

Your problem is not attraction, your problem is PRESENCE. You need to live from your purpose, and re-approach women and the world from that place. That's what creates the masculine presence that women really want. Read the way of the superior man.

mej71 · 2018-06-24T21:41:59+00:00

Same. I have no idea

Title	Nothing brings results?
Author	skyburnsred
Upvotes	14
Comments	17
Date	June 24, 2018 7:36 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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