Have you guys ever had an interaction or done something that you now look back as your turning point in seduction?

WIA20XX · 2018-07-09T10:53:36+00:00

Used some canned game, and it worked like a charm. I literally could not believe it.

I started to see how canned most guys were, how canned most humans were.

If I tell the story of how I first got drunk, everyone else will tell their own version of the story.

And they will relive the memory as they tell it.

Pick-up became really fun.

Audentes · 2018-07-09T12:10:21+00:00

Realized anyone can get anyone at anytime because we're all just people with different preferences. That's when I stepped on the dance floor with a woman I was into, we kissed and I left with her number. Got the lay a couple weeks later.

Realized physical escalation is really easy and more natural than science. And if you did it right the kiss is as simple as 'Come over here, I want to kiss you right now'.

For me 'aha' moments are things I knew or should have known all along but finally internalized and made natural. Generally spurred by ballsing up and executing.

The rest has just been experiences since. Things learned in the moment.

DarkArtsPUA11 · 2018-07-09T14:16:50+00:00

i stopped going out to the same venue every weekend for 2-3 months straight. after i did that i started seeing with some clarity and realized that what i was doing was getting me no where

Walterwhiteishere · 2018-07-09T14:32:59+00:00

Probably learning no fear and to not be clingy. It’s harder than you think. When you say your going to do things actually doing them is way harder. I still suck but it’s all about practise. I read things online a lot about how to be with girls. But I never take them all on board or you become like a robot and try to rehearse things, then you end up messing up by trying too hard. It’s all a balancing act if you fail who cares you learnt what not to do next time.

EnvironmentalTwister · 2018-07-09T17:14:14+00:00

Two ones:

Starting out from zero in terms of social anxiety with women, had to talk to a girl in my class as an icebreaker 18 months or so ago. Stuttered a bit, but then had a decent convo, looking back on it I can't imagine myself being like that now.
Manning up and saying lets get (coffee/whatever) in person and having the girl say no. I was too afraid on beating around the bush and realized that it wasn't so bad after all, and later girls have said yes.

kyzen142 · 2018-07-10T00:35:33+00:00

Everything you say with confidence is always the right thing to say and everything you say with doubt is always the wrong thing to say. Speak with certainty as if you are telling someone who asked you can you drive and you reply with fuck yeah I can drive when you say that you will say it with absolute certainty. The sense of certainty in the way someone acts/speaks is a feeling you just have to create that feeling in your body.

olronk · 2018-07-09T15:40:30+00:00

That's kinda what I began searching for about 3 years ago when I started self improvement.

Part of my plan was to read pua and seek advice from men who have experience.

Unfortunately I never found it and at the moment wondering if it even exists for me given my age and all I've done to try an improve myself.

What is insightful is reading everyone else's experiences (past or present) and kinda living vicariously through you guys and I can feel less crappy about it lol.

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