What makes it game? I was reading a thread on seddit and 2 guys were disagreeing about what makes an interaction 'gaming'.
(paraphrasing) - One guy was saying ''Game IS just talking too a girl and demonstrating confident eye contact, body language etc etc. What you say doesn't matter. Don't worry about all these weird rules''. The other guy said ''No. That's just talking too a girl. Everyone does that. 'Game' is mysterymethod. Neg the girl. tell her she's too short. Tell DHV stories about your model ex girlfriend. Do a pshycological routine using cards to make her attracted to you etc etc. That's game''
I can kind of see both of their angles.
Then I start to think about how almost all modern PUA's DO seem to just be 'talking to girls' (albeit with showing some intent at some point. Either straight away or later)
There's no 'rules'. Nothing special. And They all do it differently. Some direct. Some indirect for example. Most of them just open and just use 'regular guy chat'. What's your name? what do you do? how old are you? where are you from? bla bla bla'' No routines or conversational rules etc to override the girls brain and make her want you lol. (not that I truly think the apparent 'attraction material' works; I don't see how telling a girl she has a U shaped smile will make her attracted/want to have sex with someone who she didn't before lol)
And NOW the mysterymethod dudes might say ''Well them guys are just relying on their looks''
But then the OTHER camp would say ''Wait. I thought you said girls don't care about looks!!? Make up your mind!?''
haha - it's a endless spinning ciircle
I think my view is that 'game' is basically showing some confidence/charisma (which can be done with just eye contact and bodylanguage and stuff, OR with 'routines' etc) and you must show some intent at some point (Todd says 'game without intent isn't game').
I also think that 'perfect game' might actually only improve your chances of getting a particular girl by as little as like 2%. All of the pros seem to get rejected LOADS (and they admit it. JulienRSD and many others for example)/ I think everyone is actually just banging hard 'yes girls' and some 'maybe girls* . Zero 'no girls'. And she kind of decides what category she's in before you've said a word lol
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