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[–]nycsedditthrowaway 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Have you tried opening with easier stuff like time or directions?
[–]mrannonyy 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I didn’t think of this , this is honestly the best suggestion I’ve seen. Start small , think big. Hopefully , OP can start with this as let’s be honest the opening is the scariest part. And then hopefully try to develop the conversation from there .
[–]infinity1567 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yea, even that is still really hard for me to do
[–]nycsedditthrowaway 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If asking for the time or directions is hard, you can try other things like asking workers who have to talk to you, or just practice holding eye contact first while walking by, whatever you can do at the moment and just add a bit more
[–]EmpVaaS 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If this is the easier stuff, can you give examples of what would be more difficult stuff to say while approaching?
[+]roarkhoward777 -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wassu girl I think u fine af and I'd like to follow u on insta or get ur num.
[–]BonjourReturn2 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You save my life too X)
[–]Vvzy 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go in with the intention to totally fuck up! You don't need to success from the bat. Don't put the pressure on yourself to make a cool/confident/layd back impression. Bc at this point you will most likely not be able to, let's be honest. But the more you try and the more you practice, the more you will get closer to this stage of success. So go out, fuck up and come back stronger and better!
[–]earsurgery9 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Some people struggle with this a lot more than others. Like a legit phobia. I imagine someone with social anxiety (seems to be fairly common nowadays!) would find it terrifying to approach a random hot young girl
Only tip I have is to not worry about the 'game' side of things too much. Lots of people do more harm than good trying to implement a pushpull and a neg and a cold read and memorising stacks and concepts etc etc - Once you embrace the fact that 'game' can't make a girl attracted to you and that's it's basically all marketing, the pressure is kind of off and it's about just waling over, saying 'hi', and seeing if she's receptive/attracted or not. Say whatever. There really are basically no rules. Knowing that can help AA to some extent
[–]roarkhoward777 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I find it easier to not think of the attraction I feel for the girl and just think of another random excuse to be talking to her. If you're a cool guy you'll give the vibe within the 5-10 minute window you have when you started [random] conversation.
There's this bar near me that only serves as the breeding ground for the graduated ex popular kids from the various schools in my district. In that bar there's the hot popular girls you always got dreamy eyes over and would never approach and in the mix there's these particular two girls that I know from my HS but never spoken a word to that I notice a couple times different nights and sometimes I'd catch them staring. I never did approach them even if clear attraction was there until one night me and a few friends (male and female) were drinking somewhere near them at the bar. My friend and I tend to hit the top of a beer bottle to make it fizz and force the other to drink it fast, but when I did this my friend had a weak grip on his beer and when it dropped a bit of it splashed on the ladies.
I let a few moments pass by and calculated my words and moves carefully (not because I was nervous but because I didn't want to come off as a creep) and finally I went up to one and told her that I was the one that spilled beer on her and I noticed she and her friend had become upset over it but I was willing to patch it over with a round of drinks. The girl's attitude did a 180 from angry to cool to engaged and through out the night she and her friend would sometimes joke with me about what had happened.
I may not have taken any of them home but it did boost my confidence and morale and showed me that mh confidence is now in a good level than where it used to be when I made my first ever post on this sub.
If you liked this advice or if anyone else liked it feel free to shoot me a chat for whatever y'all need.
[–]Particular_Visual531 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Others have mentioned it but let me give you some examples of how to do this without overthinking it. Also, we don't have to be PUA, instead go about your normal life and add to it.
Be polite to everyone. Say hi and asked the cashier how their day is going. My favorite, "almost done with your shift, its getting late" Every store cashier will get to let off for a sec and tell you, "yep in one more hour i'm heading home."
Work the nice guy all the time. Open doors for little old ladies, and women wrestling with three kids. Be nice, smile.
Start with small talk everywhere. Again in a long line, "this line is going so slow my avocados will be rotten before I get home." at the clothing store, approach any woman and say you don't know what to pick out...they love to help a lost guy with fashion.
Then just add to it. If you are a younger guy, by far your best place to approach girls your age is at the local college or university. Dont attend? No problem, ask for the registrar's office because you want to attend next semester!
[–]roarkhoward777 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love the last bit of advice that you gave off. I always try to tell people I give advice to that if you want to start a good path of attraction than you must first take of yourself in the areas where you lack. You can try to pick up girls at the gym while at the same time becoming a better version of yourself.
[–]Admirable_One6045 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What’s the worst thing that can happen a rejection? sometimes you just gotta be like fuck it, and not care you only live once why not i advise you to start working out & hop on semen retention, confidence is key write down 5 things you like about your self and 5 things you don’t like about your self, change what you can and what you can’t say it’s whatever. Start working on improving your self as a man, know your worth man if a chick rejects you she’s missing out, your the prize man.
[–]M-DA-HAWK 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First try talking with some random people, doesn't matter male or female. Ask for directions, time or just say hi. This will pump you up a little bit and give you confidence. Don't view girls as some other worldly creatures, they're just normal human beings. Start by saying hi or just give them a compliment and walk away. Then start actually approaching them. You will get rejected but who doesn't and you shouldn't care tbh. Maybe take a friend with you. Sooner or later you'll have to say "fuck it" and DO IT!!
[–]improvedintimacy 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree with most of the comments here. Just a mindset idea: treat it like a video game where you’re starting at Level 1 and have to gain XP to Level Up.
You’re not going to go straight to fight the Dragon. You’ll probably start picking berries, killing rats or something like that.
Same here. Just ask for the time, for directions, for advice to anyone (young, old, male, female, other, pets, etc). Cashiers, waitresses, and everyone in the service industry make for great NPCs that you can practice on, trying to get them out of their routine and make them feel seen (even if it’s just asking how their day’s going).
Just make sure that you’re not attached to an outcome. You’re not looking to GET anything (number, date, etc). You’re just looking to gain XP by getting out of your comfort zone.
So I’d say step one is to say something to strangers. Once you’re comfortable, step two would be ONE follow-up question. And you can keep building from there.
OP, what do you think? What’s your plan to move forward?
PS: You can also completely avoid approaching by joining group activities(meetups , classes, etc). Just an idea. I know that’s not what you were asking for.
[–]Floloppi 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Guess thats a simple case of „just do it“! No matter what, shut down your head, move your legs and move your lips and just fucking do it man! You are going to make the girl and yourself happy at the same time! Go for it bro you got this
[–]woahceanman 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sometimes you just gotta say fuggit don't think just do it no balls
[–]Shadow__Account 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Been there, I would advise number one if you didn't already to stop watching porn. For me my anxiety was so huge that it trumped the motivational push I got from wanting women. It was like tipping scales and when I accepted my horniness and not tried to keep it under control with porn anymore and in combination with growing confidence there came a tipping point where my drive to get women got bigger than the huge anxiety/shame I had. So the second part is to get more confident and I would recommend if you really can't get yourself to approach, to play the online dating game, get some experiences with women and build some confidence of that, besides the standard workout and work on yourself obviously to get to a point where you don't feel unworthy anymore to talk to a stranger and where you also don't care to a certain degree what a random stranger thinks of you.
[–]Iamovert 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think the biggest thing is, starting off approaching is a natural skill you learn over time. It’s not going to come to you in one day from talking to 15 people. The more interactions you have with PEOPLE not just women will in return gain you success. I’ve learned this from a mentor and it’s 100% true. Yes talking about things like directions, good places to eat/ get coffee ect are all great conversation starters. Also don’t freeze when there is a pause in a conversation that is natural. They might think of something to say and it might take them a second. Also do not and I repeat do not approach a girl that is just straight up hot when learning. This will only mess with you’re head even more. You have to start off with small steps until you really start getting comfortable.
[–]FalconVita 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fear is just a thought in your mind.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Try therapy from a qualified psychologist, therapist, or psychiatrist. Somebody who specializes in treating social anxiety whether it's general or specific to a certain situation or circumstances. There are self help books on the subject by experts too. Good luck! All the best! Be safe!
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