Men will work more when there might be a bonus. Apparently this is bad for women?

actioncr0w · 2024-04-01T08:48:55+00:00

Here is a quick explanation of the article for those who are in TLDR mood right now.

Women are not willing to enter highly competitive workplaces and even if they do, they tend to perform worse than men by any metric. Reason for that, is because absolute majority of women are not willing to work long hours, double shifts and etc due to women still need to do chores in the household at home, which women call “unpaid caretaking and household work”.

Now lads, imagine if every time when you bring home furniture from IKEA, unload it and assemble, or every time when you open a jar, you also called it “unpaid household work” like women do and demand special treatment and salary rise from your boss at work as women do.

dude_wheres_my_fries · 2024-04-01T09:01:21+00:00

The study design appears sound to me, but the conclusion seems like a reach. Women don’t want to work in a competitive environment therefore it’s competitive work places are bad for gender equality? It’s like if I were to say “I don’t want to go to law school therefore it’s unfair that lawyers earn more money than I do.” Often times competitive pay means competitive workplace.

ggleblanc2 · 2024-04-01T07:38:46+00:00

The title of the article is "Competitive workplaces don’t work for gender equality". They should have used the word "equity" instead because they didn't measure opportunity. They measured the results.

According to the article, women dislike competing and have too many household responsibilities to compete.

I will give the article and website credit in that the article is based on research and not just some feminist's opinion.

NameIs-Already-Taken · 2024-04-01T09:03:02+00:00

I am shocked. A feminist has concluded that men are bad. lol

Grand-Juggernaut6937 · 2024-04-01T15:57:57+00:00

Women aren’t as incentivized to work harder for more money so we need to pay them more since otherwise they wouldn’t earn it themselves.

Also only they should be allowed to take a 12 month break and come back and still be paid as much as everyone around them that had their souls drained for an extra year. Otherwise we’ll compare a bunch of meaningless statistics with as many confounding variables as possible and draw whichever conclusion makes us seem the best.

mrmensplights · 2024-04-01T18:14:31+00:00

Are they literally saying that women can't compete? No problem, if the theory is sound then I'm sure some enterprising person will set up a law firm or finance business based on anti-competitive ideologies and sweep the competition.

Men are resource gatherers. They are going to work longer and harder for extra pay and bonuses. Usually and most often for the benefit of women. Women just double dip.. they demand easier jobs and better pay then men, then also demand male partners that provide resources. Multiple studies show women control most spending despite men making more money (due to career choices, not due to the fabricated gender pay gap).

The far more interesting aspect of this study is how a bonus as a psychological mechanism can make people act irrationally - working hard for the bonus than it's actually worth in terms of input labor. Unfortunately they capped the amount of hours and pushed this boring, played out, meaningless gender garbage so we'll never know.

ThrowAway-MR0 · 2024-04-01T09:09:43+00:00

Women perform less well in competitive work environments. This is good information for leaders in companies to get the most out of their employees.

Doesn’t seem like a sexist article to me. Research seemed pretty good.

Angryasfk · 2024-04-02T03:51:30+00:00

The upshot is that for an “equitable workplace” we need to switch from rewarding high performance and effort and switch to promoting/paying based on quotas of what you have between your legs! So women in such position should get those promotions and bonuses because they’re “women” and have missed out - and giving promotions and bonuses based on performance is “discrimination” as women don’t respond.

The mere fact that it’s this kind of rewards model that provides the best outcomes for the business/organisation is apparently immaterial, and is in fact evidence of “patriarchy”.

This is the world of feminist “equality”. Promoting and rewarding someone for what they contribute in actual work is “discrimination”; promoting women simply because they’re women is “equality”.

I think we’ve all really known this. It’s still galling they have the nerve to call us “entitled” and “sexist” though.

pwishall · 2024-04-01T19:17:14+00:00

So... if we genuinely care about gender equality, men should be less competitive. That's amazing.

HolidayFeedback8182 · 2024-04-01T20:42:34+00:00

There may have been a time (60 years ago) when women worked & did house chores, but those days a long forgotten. Men do a hell of a lot more than women.

Title	Men will work more when there might be a bonus. Apparently this is bad for women?
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Date	April 1, 2024 6:26 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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