This is our 4th time TTC. The first time my husband was really turned off by timing sex and I was frustrated by his unwillingness to work with the timing (every other day for a week).
We have a better sexual relationship now, and I've learned that he is more interested in frequent sex when I don't involve him in knowing when I'm ovulating.
When I'm in my fertile window I seduce him with a candle and soft music, or sometimes a back scratch or simple non-sexual contact. We had sex last night on my peak day and I would like to have sex again tonight but I'm sure if I let him know why it'll turn him off to wanting it. He also is interested in pregnancy, but not the pressure of the fertile window. So what do you all do to make it a romantic time for your husbands?
Those who are having sex 3 days in a row, what is the dynamic like for you guys if you don't mind me asking?
[–]youllknowwhenitstimeEndorsed Contributor 11 points12 points13 points (8 children) | Copy Link
Is this a general seduction question?
If you're only initating/seducing during peak days you're doing it wrong. Initiate/seduce three, four, whatever days in a row randomly throughout the month and he won't clue into a pattern that creates performance anxiety or start suspecting you only want to have sex for babies.
[–]undothatbutton2 Star 3 points4 points5 points (3 children) | Copy Link
100% true answer is: have sex more often lol. no chance of figuring out which days are the big deal if you’re having sex half the month anyway.
[–]Constant-Chance6413[S] 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Yes but he is in a very stressful period at work - so it can be you go 3 days without. It was interesting to me seeing we went from sex all the time to less sex when we actively decided to conceive - trying to undo that!
[–]undothatbutton2 Star 6 points7 points8 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Stop sharing when you’re ovulating. Start giving him random BJs or sex without him finishing in you, sprinkled in with sex with him finishing in you, throughout the entire month. Start (if you aren’t already) being randomly romantic without the expectation of sex at all, so he stops associating: wife is extra romantic/nice = she must be ovulating and want sex.
Realistically, if you have sex in your fertile window 2x and 1x he finishes on your chest or something, you’re going to conceive if you would’ve conceived that week, you know? (And (yuck factor warning) if you feel so compelled and will make you feel better, wipe it off and put it up in you, turkey-baster-style LOL.)
That way he really won’t be able to discern for sure when you’re trying to make a baby, which will take the pressure off. It is a LOT of pressure to put on someone before a vulnerable, intimate act… to him it’s like, if he can’t perform, he knows he is (in a way) “withholding” the love of his life’s deepest desire and expression of her love to him (having his child) etc etc. Get back to the basics — you want it to be fun, relaxing, stress-free.
If you’re genuinely unsure if you have a fertility problem, you can certainly track your cycle. In fact I’d encourage all women to be familiar with their cycles and fertile signs! But you simply don’t need to share it with him at this stage. You’re hindering his ability to relax into it by amping up the pressure in sort of a clinical way, when you overshare about the behind-the-scenes or make the timing a big deal (or very obvious). This is something you phone a friend about. Find some girlfriend/s you trust, overshare with them. Your fellow women TTC would love to interpret if your cervical fluid is sticky or tacky, or hear how you are SO ANTSY this cycle you could just scream and cry if he isn’t down to have sex tonight.
[–]Constant-Chance6413[S] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I really appreciate your perspective, thank you so much
[–]Constant-Chance6413[S] 1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Yes! I reposted this question a user posted somewhere else as I trust this forum to give the best answers! I had exactly the same problem, ie wonderful sex life, love being with him, high desire etc. I did not realise before but my husband would be the one to mostly initiate so when we decide to try for a baby (you need to have sex in the 3 days that matters unfortunately) I started initiating / trying and I got a negative response! Honestly, because we were having so much sex before I really did not think it will be a problem if we need to have sex in some specific days. So after 4 months of trying to 'time it' and seeing he did not enjoy it, I decided that irrespective of when / if we have a kid I do not want to hurt our relationship in any way. I think your timing comment is spot on - obv will do that. I was not sure if it the timing or the fact that he does not want me to 'try' to seduce him if that makes sense. I.e he always says he likes me natural, casual, etc. Just to make sure we define seduction, I am fit, take very good care of myself, dress well, cook for him and spoil him (he always says 'I am disgustingly spoiled :D') - random head / foot massages whenever he is stressed, etc. I do believe that irrespective of when it happens, I genuinely want to use this as an opportunity to improve our relationship and be better for him.
[–]youllknowwhenitstimeEndorsed Contributor 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Has he mentioned why the response is negative? Does he dislike knowing it's for conceiving? Does he dislike being initiated upon in general?
[–]Constant-Chance6413[S] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Honestly, I am not sure and why I reposted the q. Clearly he dislikes the first part at least. I was so surprised / taken aback that it made me very shy / scarred to initiate after. I did ask him after that if this advice we received on 'planning' sex on certain dates work for him or if he would prefer we naturally have sex 2-3 times a week. He chose the latter and we will obv do that. Then I saw the post on another forum and I was wondering what the male perspective is. The reality though is that because he is very stressed at work at the moment, it happened last month that we did not have sex from Tuesday to Friday (I was ovulating on Thursday), then went 3x on Sat and Sunday - but I knew it doesnt 'count' since we missed the window. I just went along with it, but wondered how to 'seduce' someone that potentially doesnt like to be seduced
[–]youllknowwhenitstimeEndorsed Contributor 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd try initiating, lightly, when it's pretty obvious it's not for conceiving and see how he responds. If you know he's turned off by planned/semi-planned sex, you definitely don't want you initiating tied to the idea of planned sex. If it becomes part of y'all's general sex life no matter where in the cycle you are, you'll have more leeway.
I certainly understand your trepidation to try initiating after a negative response. Still, I do think it would be more likely to work if you spontaneously initiate again, when it's obviously not for conception, without having a "talk" about whether or not he likes initiating, as it seems he may dislike non-spontaneous changes in sex life.
[–]SecretFeminine 20 points21 points22 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Why in the world would you tell him? Do not tell him. Presumably you want to have a baby with him because he's your dream guy and you're in love and attracted to him. So put the cycle tracker down and focus on how you can show your love, respect, and attraction to him.
[–]Constant-Chance6413[S] 3 points4 points5 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Honestly, because when I asked our friends with kids they said basically this is what they did and I did not think it could be an issue. Clearly, I was wrong! I adore him and have always shown that to him in ways he likes best. He himself said to me many times he is the 'luckiest, most spoiled husband' - that has been a constant.
[–]SecretFeminine 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Perfect. Focus on that and if you're not having sex 3 times a week regardless of cycle, figure out how you can kindle the romance enough so that's the cadence.
[–]Othalania 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Awww, what do you do that helps him feel that way? Talk about wife goals!
[–]Constant-Chance6413[S] 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Thank you, you are very kind. I think the things that really made a difference for him was 1) cooking for him (I used to not cook before, then it was clear its one of his languages of love I learned and I do it often), 2) frequent massages (I genuinely love it and I find it a pleasant way for me to express my love, but I end up randomly massing/ scratching his head, feet, hands etc a few times a week - he LOVES it and 3) I think I know how to turn his day around if he has a bad day: sometimes that means giving him space to go in the nothing box (there is a really funny video on that if you google 'men nothing box'), sometimes its me taking him rock climbing / on a long walk for him to release the stress, I love turning his day around and seeing him smile
[–]Othalania 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for this response. I often struggle to think from his point of view, so hearing from a loved and successful wife is great!
[–]_Pumpkin_Muffin5 Stars 14 points15 points16 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Is there a reason you have to time intercourse? How's your sex life otherwise?
If there's no fertility issue, and you are having sex regularly (~twice a week), you really don't need to schedule intercourse. Having sex when the mood struck is how our entire species has survived for, oh, a few hundred thousand years or so. Since our desire is heavily influeced by ovulation, things should work themselves out.
It can be incredibly off putting to feel your partner doesn't desire you genuinely, and only wants sex to conceive. It can make one feel used. Don't turn sex into a chore, sex should be something that makes you feel good and lets you two grow closer. If you want to have more frequent sex around ovulation, just initiate. Why do you need to "let him know why"? And even if you want to tell him - do you only want sex because you want to conceive, and would never initiate otherwise? If that's the case, your relationship has bigger issues than your husband's unwillingness to schedule sex at carefully timed intervals.
Just initiate. If your husband asks why, just tell him you feel really in the mood today. You could try to incorporate more things he likes, initiate with stuff that will put him in the mood, make him feel desired. He wants sex with you because he likes it, and he wants you to like it - he wants to feel like a desired man, not like a stud.
[–]Constant-Chance6413[S] 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for your perspective, this is very helpful. Our sex life was amazing, I was surprised we were having less sex when we decided to try for a baby, took me a few months to understand/ accept how off putting the tracking is to him. Unfortunately you need more than 2 times a week to conceive - and as you probably know desire at ovulation is super high - so I do want him more those days than ever.
[–]_Pumpkin_Muffin5 Stars 5 points6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy Link
It sometimes happen that way when TTC, as the mental switch from "having fun" to "gotta do this to have a baby" can put a performative spin to it... and sex as a performance is hard.
Twice a week is absolutely enough to conceive without issues (meaning, conceive within 12 cycles for couples with no infertility issue). You don't need to do it 4 days in a row or every other day during your fertile window. If you have sex about every 3 days, you either hit ovulation day or the couple of days prior, which are all highly fertile. As long as you have a healthy, mutually enjoyable sex life that generally entails at least 2x week sex, you don't need to monitor ovulation or time intercourse. Of course, if you want sex more often, go for it! But do it because you want it, not because it's a chore you have to tick off the list. Refusing to time intercourse perfectly might mean you take a bit longer to conceive, but remember that anything up to 12 cycles is normal and healthy - and in the grand scheme of things, conceiving on cycle 3 or on cycle 6 makes ZERO difference. Let go of the pressure. "Wasting" a cycle here and there is still better than ruining your sex life and driving your husband away.
I used FAM to delay pregnancy for some time, when we switched to TTC I actually stopped all charting and just had sex whenever. I get the desire to "nail it" on the perfect days, but it only took me one cycle to realize that it was NOT good for our intimacy... if my husband turned me down during the fertile window, and then initiated after, I got these thoughts of "what's the point, we wasted this cycle". So I nipped it in the bud. You might find it beneficial too.
[–]Constant-Chance6413[S] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for this <3
[–]undothatbutton2 Star 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I simply exist and he’s willing, ready, and enthusiastic. If I am also ovulating?! I would have to knock him back with a newspaper if I wasn’t interested. (Can’t imagine not being interested esp while ovulating.)
I’m not trying to be a hater. (And I see OOP wasn’t the one who cross posted.) I just think that this is soo unnecessarily analytical. This is their 4th child, they’re in their late 20s. Like… just have sex. Make love. Desire each other. Have fun. Enjoy each other. And finish inside at the end. Viola. Repeat. If a problem comes up, face it then. I can’t imagine any man (or woman) is genuinely aroused and in their sexual love- and baby-making “energy” and mindset to relax and enjoy (is that not part of the beauty and magic of making a baby with the person you love?!) if they’ve just been told the pressure is ON or heard the details about how fertile your mucus is…
Sex — especially babymaking sex — should be relaxing and fun and enjoyable and embodied.
[–]Constant-Chance6413[S] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ha - love this post. I knew I will find better answers in RP Reddit. Just to be clear, we don't have kids yet, I am early 30s he is mid 30s. I do dream of having a large family (this will sound crazy but would love 5 kids) - I do feel very guilty for starting so late but c'est la vie. Anyhow, we tried for a few months (but failed) with the timed sex - so since I don't know how long it will take us, I don't want to continue doing something that might hurt our relationship. If anything, I want to use this as a way to improve our relationship.
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Title: What do you do to have your husbands willing to have sex during peak days?
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Full text: This is our 4th time TTC. The first time my husband was really turned off by timing sex and I was frustrated by his unwillingness to work with the timing (every other day for a week).
We have a better sexual relationship now, and I've learned that he is more interested in frequent sex when I don't involve him in knowing when I'm ovulating.
When I'm in my fertile window I seduce him with a candle and soft music, or sometimes a back scratch or simple non-sexual contact. We had sex last night on my peak day and I would like to have sex again tonight but I'm sure if I let him know why it'll turn him off to wanting it. He also is interested in pregnancy, but not the pressure of the fertile window. So what do you all do to make it a romantic time for your husbands?
Those who are having sex 3 days in a row, what is the dynamic like for you guys if you don't mind me asking?
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