People on this subreddit should stop falling for the naturalistic fallacy

Gitsumrestmf · 2024-08-28T09:51:20+00:00

What fallacy exactly? What are we talking about here? You need to be more specific OP.

If you are talking about "naturalistic fallacy" regarding human sexual relationships, that's no fallacy at all. Going away from what are natural sexual relations for us would cause our entire species to ultimately go extinct, and our civilization would die.

And this ain't just theorizing either. Look at the abysmal birth rates throughout western world. Look at failing marriages, families, etc. Our societies are rapidly aging, dying.

Why? Sexual revolution and going away from traditional Christian values. So "liberated" that unhappiness and depression rates are highest in history...

If this is not what you were talking about, sorry.

The whole civilization is literally about suppressing our base, animalistic desires.

That was the case, but modern "liberated" society is happy to throw away all inhibitions and run around like dogs, changing partners like socks, and not committing until they are well past their prime fertile age.

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icxcnika1 · 2024-08-28T10:44:16+00:00

The whole civilization is literally about suppressing our base, animalistic desires.

Yes, but that doesn't mean there aren't cases where we can resort to nature for explanations or guidance. If we are talking about natural societal behaviors or needs of men and women for example

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Common-Ferret-1435 · 2024-08-28T09:54:09+00:00

I don’t think anyone is saying it’s morally “good”. By that logic rape is morally good because animals do it. So is murder.

Trad cucks to live in a fantasy past where life was better, but that only works from a very narrow facet and not taking the whole into account.

And that’s cultural and societal systems, not a naturalistic fallacy, unless that’s what you’re meaning.

Saying married people have better child raising outcomes than single mothers is saying traditional was “better” for raising kids.

But a lot of naturalistic realities still exist. Women want men with resources (gold digging). Women want bigger, taller, stronger men than what other women get so they chase Chad.

It is what it is. We are still dirty scheming animals and dress up in clothes and act superior.

But nature isn’t moral, so I don’t know who is applying morals to saying “nature” is good. If anything nature is barbaric and murderous and I haven’t seen anyone here say they support that.

Title	People on this subreddit should stop falling for the naturalistic fallacy
Author	Novel-Tip-7570
Upvotes	7
Comments	11
Date	August 28, 2024 9:34 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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