Misandrist under the title of "feminist" says feminism is only about helping women

Poly_and_RA · 2024-09-20T15:49:32+00:00

It'd be nice if posters would at least agree with THEMSELVES.

Which of these two is it:

Men should solve their own problems. (presumably with one or more movements centered on doing that)
We do NOT need a movement that centers men

AigisxLabrys · 2024-09-20T15:31:42+00:00

Explain to me how these issues that men face are created by men themselves

• Being falsely accused of rape, sexual assault or abuse

• Being arrested despite being the one who is abused

• Getting deceived into raising a child that’s not theirs

• Being forced to pay child support to the mother who cheated and getting arrested if they don’t

• Getting killed, abused or raped as a boy

bruhholyshiet · 2024-09-20T16:36:35+00:00

You know what? Fine! I'm totally fine with feminism not giving a crap about men.

But don't backtrack on this and pretend otherwise as a way to win an argument.

Don't start with the "feminism is good for men too" to lure guys to the movement, and for fuck sake, stop claiming that the only valid and non misogynistic way of addressing men's problems is through a feminist lens.

No, it's fuckin not. Feminism considers men the oppressor class, the advantaged class, it tolerates bashing on men as a whole as "punching up" and it looooves to chalk all of men's problems to either toxic masculinity or "other men". So no, feminism may be great for women, but it's not for men and it never was. Stop pretending otherwise as a means to win an argument on Reddit, feminists.

BootyBRGLR69 · 2024-09-20T16:26:43+00:00

Wait but I thought men were supposed to turn to feminism for their own sake too - haven’t we been hearing for years that it’s for our own good?

Now the mask is off I guess, they can stop pretending to care

SomeSugondeseGuy · 2024-09-20T17:09:34+00:00

85% of gynecologists are women

80% of healthcare professionals are women

74.3% of schoolteachers are women

72% of HR personnel are women

Healthcare discriminates against women? Education systems sexualize and discriminate against women? Businesses choose not to believe women?

If I were to use the logic of the subject of this post, I would advocate for men to stop caring about these issues so that the women could take care of them since they "create" these problems.

But I'm not going to do that. These are complicated issues that need attention from as many people as possible.

henrysmyagent · 2024-09-20T17:30:07+00:00

Whoopsies!

Methinks she said the silent part outloud.

Funny how whenever I tell feminists that feminism has always and still is only for women they start shouting about how wrong I am.

WanabeInflatable · 2024-09-20T20:07:24+00:00

It would be nice if majority of feminists were as honest as this one and not pretend that feminism somehow helps men.

gratis_eekhoorn · 2024-09-20T19:30:43+00:00

Everything they've said accurately represent the feminist ideology, from that perspective that comment has no inconsistencies whatsoever.

MegaLAG · 2024-09-20T21:01:35+00:00

Always loving how these narcissists don't think they are in any way part of the problems.

Ziozark · 2024-09-20T21:12:22+00:00

The contradictions are just absolutely unhinged. lol

notarobot4932 · 2024-09-20T21:15:43+00:00

So men need to solve our own problems but we also aren’t allowed to have spaces to discuss them?

punkerthanpunk · 2024-09-21T08:46:28+00:00

hey underpaid worker that was born in a ghetto, do you know that you created your problems?

2024-09-21T20:41:07+00:00

True colour will always show, a chameleon can't stay a fake color forever

Tevorino · 2024-09-20T19:58:50+00:00

That misandrist isn't wrong, though. Feminism has always been a lobby for women's interests that, at best, might incidentally benefit some men. There's nothing inherently wrong with this; it's how lobbying is supposed to work. If you're not a member of the group for whose interests the lobby is advocating, then you can't really expect them to do anything for you (again, they might successfully advocate for some kind of change that incidentally benefits you). If you want the issues affecting your group to have any decent chance of being properly addressed, then you need your own lobby.

For any issues that don't involve the allocation of public funds, it's theoretically possible for feminists and MRAs to lobby for their own respective concerns without stepping on each other's toes. They can even lobby together when there happens to be an issue where their interests align, e.g. opposing some government policy that hurts men and women alike. As soon as we get to allocation of tax money, however, they will necessarily become opponents because every penny that goes to a women's shelter is a penny that isn't going to a men's shelter. This also, sadly, applies to crime because protecting men from the types of crime that pose the greatest danger to them, like perverting the course of justice (false accusations), often means giving women less protection from the crimes that pose the greatest danger to them. There are reasonable compromises to be made that try to maximise the net protection given to both, but reaching those compromises requires both lobbies to exist and be taken seriously.

From a tactical point of view, it was pretty clever (and unethical) of the major feminist influencers to try to gaslight gullible men into thinking that they were also going to fight for men's interests and that men don't need their own movement. This has clearly been effective.

Title	Misandrist under the title of "feminist" says feminism is only about helping women
Author	buildarium
Upvotes	79
Comments	46
Date	September 20, 2024 2:46 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/EverydayMisandry
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