Has anyone else noticed this subtle shift in feminist rhetoric about equality for women & men?

ElisaSKy · 2025-07-15T05:46:31+00:00

"am I reading too much into this" you are overthinking, they are just lying through their teeth.

I mean look, you are looking at people whom have been caught red-handed, and multiple times at that, cooking the books on rape and DV stats to make men appear like the only rapists/violent spouses, and people who do their best to bury new evidence to the contrary.

What's one more lie to them?

fixingmedaybyday · 2025-07-15T05:54:30+00:00

The thing is feminists want all women to behave like men, have all the “benefits” of being men, despite not all women wanting to have to be or deal with that shit. They’re jaded and in competition with men trying to reverse the roles of the 50s towards themselves instead. However even then they’re not happy because they get off in the endorphins of “breaking glass ceilings”. They’re warriors who have no purpose without a war to be fought. And so they’re just going to keep pushing for more power and control.

HunterRenegade09 · 2025-07-15T06:11:56+00:00

They have replaced equality with equity for a long time now.

SarcasticallyCandour · 2025-07-15T05:50:28+00:00

Looks like you're being redpilled.

Ive seen all this shit 15 years ago. Its about women being privileged, getting lighter loads, demonizing men and making constant excuses to never admit male disadvantages exist.

Look at female teachers for example. Girls have been ahead of boys in education for 50 years yet female teacher still demand funds to set up girls workshops, mentorship programmes and then in universities which are female dominated, hubdreds of millions of public funds supports female onky scholarships and stipends.

Then in UK feminists want womens prisons closed.

In the EU we see the gender equality index only classes a problem if a gap exists where females are behibd males, a gap the other way is not an equality issues, as it is seen as the oppressor is lagging behibd so its a good thing.

How do you look too far into that shit?

Seele · 2025-07-15T10:22:04+00:00

It is a rhetorical power-grab which tacitly changes the underlying assumptions from (concrete and tractable) equality between individuals to (undefined and capricious) equity between groups (similar to Critical Race Theory.) It permits gross injustice and harming of individuals in the name of some nebulous "Common Good," a blank check for arbitrary tyranny.

Yoinkitron5000 · 2025-07-15T11:13:46+00:00

It's basically a cop out. "If anything we can frame as 'unequal' exists anywhere, our support for blatantly sexist policies is acceptable."

xxTheMagicBulleT · 2025-07-15T12:22:39+00:00

If its equal I dont mind. But all the dubbele standards fk that im out.

And just think its slowly cutting them to hard. Know plenty of business people that keep women at 2 arm lengths at all times.

And I think some have been treated like they treated others. And get some accountability why they sing a different toon. But I dont care.

Il treat anyone how they treat me. And if you dont support or yell for my rights and charities. I won't support or yell for there.

Its just that simple push harsh accountability on women just like that has been done on men. Stop treating women like children and treat them as adults that are responsible for there own actions and the consequences off them.

Then maybe we can get back to a society that has more kindness and cares for each other and looks out for each other. And has some damn respect both ways.

By simply saying nothing is freely given. But earned by giving back what you receive. So lolove kindness respect compassion. If you can't give it you are unworthy off it. Literally the rules guys have to live by. If women wanna have all the same freedoms and all the same rights carry the same responsibilities that come with it.

So everyone has a duty to beter there community by how you treat others how you wish to be treated. Its honestly not that hard. But God darn rocket science for women and feminists.

Cause thats the reason kindness and care is dead cause we villainize people for the smallest thing often without cause.

How often I got like weird call outs as a dude in his 30s taking care of my niece Kid thats 4 and treated like I'm some child snatcher cause or skins are not a like its criminal how easy we see each other like the worst thing automatic. But the more we push and acht like people are the worst thing all the time the more you push people to become it cause your already treating them like they are.

And thats the problem with feminism they by how they treat people they create the villains they say there fighting against cause you treat people like the villains by association.

FilthyOrganick · 2025-07-16T02:35:27+00:00

You’re right, it’s a justification for supporting inequality

mrmensplights · 2025-07-15T22:06:32+00:00

No you aren't reading too much into this. What you are describing is the difference between equality and equity. "Equality under equal conditions" is the same thing as "equity". Equity already provides a framework that justifies extra perks for specific identity groups.

KochiraJin · 2025-07-15T08:04:29+00:00

Isn't this just a clever way to protect itself from valid criticism, while looking progressive on the surface.

I think it's very much in line with progressive thought. Those types of mental gymnastics are necessary when whatever utopia they are trying to progress towards is incompatible with reality. It's less to protect from outside criticism and more to protect their beliefs from themselves.

AffectionateTry6175 · 2025-07-17T01:05:51+00:00

If I could offer a different perspective, I believe this is could be the movement adjusting to acknowledge the biological differences in men and women. It reminds me of the "equal rights equal fights" response to feminism, which under this new definition would become irrelevant because in most situations the fight would never be equal. There are things on either side that the other gender will never experience (i.e. pregnancy will never be experienced by a male).

I don't think this new framework would suddenly make male jokes toxic, all legal systems are biased, and gender exclusive benefits already exist. I'm a little curious what criticisms you would have against that definition.

Title	Has anyone else noticed this subtle shift in feminist rhetoric about equality for women & men?
Author	SquaredAndRooted
Upvotes	256
Comments	23
Date	July 15, 2025 5:40 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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