Is violence against women evaluated in the wrong way?

KPplumbingBob · 2025-09-18T19:27:15+00:00

In some countries, including mine, a man killing a woman is automatically counted as "femicide". In some countries it also carries a harsher sentence. By law I mean. It usually does lead to longer sentences if the victim is a woman either way.

MelissaMiranti · 2025-09-18T19:54:25+00:00

It is evaluated wrongly in many different ways. In some countries all domestic violence is filed under "violence against women" regardless of if the victim is a man. There is a far lower standard for counting this violence than for hate crimes in most places. The same standards are not enforced for men at all, anywhere.

Femi_gnatzee_hunter · 2025-09-19T14:46:41+00:00

"violence against women" is a buzzword unsubstantiated by any real data which is used to justify misandry, meanwhile men suffer much more violence overall(for instance being 80% of homicide victims worldwide), and suffer institutional and gender based violence as well, like MGM or the draft

CeleryMan20 · 2025-09-18T22:02:44+00:00

Domestic violence, intimate partner violence, relational abuse, workplace bullying, hate crimes, opportunistic street crime. To combat them successfully, we need to understand their differing specific qualities. And not conflate them under some activist meme of whose identity-group is more oppressed.

eldred2 · 2025-09-19T01:32:50+00:00

But, but...how can they claim that women are oppressed if they don't inflate the numbers?

QuantumPenguin89 · 2025-09-19T09:16:28+00:00

Yes, every instance of violence against someone who is female is conveniently counted as "misogyny" regardless of the actual motive.

When they say that "misogyny kills", they are counting every female murder victim as a victim of "misogyny", they are not only thinking of the extremely rare Elliot Rodgers out there.

But no instance of violence against a man is ever considered as "misandric violence".

JJnanajuana · 2025-09-18T22:52:26+00:00

"Violence against women" is a 'clean-up word' for domestic violence.

I'm kind of kidding there, and requiring someone who said something along the lines of "domestic violence is a cleanup word for wife bashing"

Where I am at least violence against women doesn't refer to all violence against women it doesn't refer to pub raw or a road rage incident or a random attack on the random woman (normally.*)

In research papers newspaper articles and general usage it's specific to domestic violence (mostly).

Sometimes as in the UK violence against women includes male victims of domestic violence, quite often it excludes them, in a subtle way that implies... it just doesn't account for their existence.

Sometimes that's 'just not what this paper was researching' sometimes it's ' we interviewed victims at the women's shelter all the victims were women' and sometimes it just goes unexplained because it is the normal terminology and any things like forgetting that men are victims of domestic violence too that go along with that...

*normally: many new slings dead frame the Bondi stubbings as violence against women because women ended up being the most attacked, similarly counting dead women does this. And then the stats that come out of it get used and it often gets implied because it's titled violence against women that they are "domestic violence" against women.

So there is a bit of overlap but it's generally understood to be domestic violence. With the male victims being left out or glossed over.

Poyri35 · 2025-09-19T09:05:21+00:00

We, as humanity, have a socio-cultural tendency to highlight terms like: sex, gender, physical inequalities, romantic relationships etc when the victim is a woman

I can’t claim to know why, maybe it’s related to the gamma bias or the women are wonderful effects, maybe not. It’s just an observation of mine really

Perhaps we, as humanity, feel like a man getting harm is more natural, and in a way dehumanise them

Or maybe woman are seen as a pure thing or only in terms of their gender, rather than a complex human and so there could be no reason to harm them other than their gender

Or maybe we, as humanity, think that men are intrinsically sexist and cannot feel anything other than mindless hatred, and so do not deserve any sympathy no matter what

The thing I’m trying to say is that these types of cultural norms are way too complex and rooted to point and say “This! is why that happens”. That’s why there are a million interpretations. This is the reason why change is hard

But hard doesn’t mean impossible, we need to continue talking, letting our voice get heard. So thank you for this post

Firm_Effective967 · 2025-09-19T23:15:01+00:00

Violence against women means all men are evil we need a matriarchy and to take men’s rights away and the Y chromosome is a mark of the devil.

Violence against men is mocked made fun of seen as a casual normal thing or that the attacker was defending themselves (especially if the attacker was a woman).

ChimpPimp20 · 2025-09-19T19:44:26+00:00

It all depends really.

The motive could simply be pent up anger that resulted in a homicide or could be something more Elliot Rodger related. I think that if there is a history of said violence against more than one woman than you can certainly debate on misogyny being at play.

When you get down to the nitty gritty, it gets insane. Ally Fog on the Guardian wrote an article about how VAWA labels abused men under the umbrella of violence against women. In other words, those men are marked as women in the books.

ultraviolet_debt7284 · 2025-09-20T23:49:25+00:00

I think it's because there was until recent history allot of socital cultural religious and legal support for men to be violent towards woman. Laws on how violent in what way they could be violent and how a woman's status in society directly served to justify that violence in a systemic way.

I think it's also to acknowledge the fact that nine times out of ten when severe violence is done to woman on an individual and collective scale it is usually justified in a way that is linked to their womanhood their very femaleness and what that means for them in society being the very reason in and off itself. Not that cases don't happen where woman are assaulted for reasons outside of them being a woman it's generally accepted that when violence is done to woman it has something to do with them being targeted for being a woman.

Woman are easy physical targets for shitty people there usually smaller and weacker then men its somewhat only logical that a cowardly piece of shit looking for a target would look for a woman a child or any class of person in their particular society that is vulnerable to take out their violence towards.

Dark_Prince_of_Chaos · 2025-09-21T08:04:18+00:00

Western society is so gynocentric that anything a woman says is automatically beleived.

And let's be honest, anyone that have been around women for a long time know lies and manipulation are their main weapon.

Bubbly-Molasses7596 · 2025-09-20T00:40:41+00:00

Even if you were to adjust it, women would still be disproportionately victims of violence from men. Including Sexual violence.

retrosenescent · 2025-09-19T19:06:41+00:00

I agree, you are missing the point. Violence against women is... violence against women. That's why violence against women is called violence against women.

Your confusion lies in your false assumption that violence against women is considered motivated by that fact. It's not.

Title	Is violence against women evaluated in the wrong way?
Author	Freyjadoura
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Date	September 17, 2025 10:16 PM UTC (10 months ago)
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