Problems Persist but so do I

RobJudge · 2026-04-11T22:31:31+00:00

Hey man, first off respect for the consistency. You're going out, you're approaching, you're doing field reports. That alone puts you ahead of most guys who just read theory and never actually talk to anyone.

Few things I noticed that might help:

The fact that you froze at the first club but loosened up after the walk tells me your issue isn't ability, it's state. You got in your head early, and that killed your momentum. One thing that works really well is to make your first interaction of the night a throwaway. Talk to the bouncer, the bartender, a random group of dudes. Just get your mouth moving with zero stakes. By the time you get to an actual approach you're already warmed up instead of trying to cold start with a girl you're attracted to.

On the IOI thing, don't rely too much on waiting for eye contact or signals before you open. That's a trap. You end up standing around scanning the room like a security guard instead of actually being social. The guys who do best in nightlife are the ones who are just... talking to everyone. The IOIs come AFTER you've been social and visible, not before.

The interaction where you opened with "how'd you get in" was solid. That's a situational opener with a little humor baked in, which is always better than a generic compliment. The reason compliment openers aren't landing is because in a club setting every girl has heard "I love your outfit" ten times that night. It doesn't separate you from the pack. You already showed you can do better with that "how'd you get in" line, so lean more into that kind of thing. Observations, playful assumptions, anything that starts a conversation instead of just delivering a compliment she has to say "thanks" to.

The touch escalation sequence you described was textbook, which is good, but if she's staying at the same "polite but not enthusiastic" level after all of that, it usually means the conversation itself isn't creating enough tension. Touching without verbal tension behind it just feels like a friendly guy being touchy. Try mixing in some teasing or playful challenges before the physical stuff. Give her a reason to be emotionally engaged first, then the touch amplifies it.

And don't worry about the city being "hard mode." Every guy thinks his city is hard mode haha. Just keep stacking reps.

MetalHist · 2026-04-11T23:27:25+00:00

sounds like you're running game and implementing what people have told you.

But 'game' isn't black magic and you can't make a girl want you, so don't stress the ones where you opened, teased and what not and she wasn't into you. It's normal. Just keep going as it's really a numbers game, and the guys who tell you they attract and sleep with most girls they approach are obviously either lying out of their butt (selling courses or just living a double life on the internet) or they have a massive advantage over other guys in terms of how they look etc. Their game is probably even more basic than yours and less advanced based on some posts i read earlier on here from apparent super studs

I love your reports, though. They're kind of the only ones that sound real lol

Keep going, dude!

Prestigious_Water336 · 2026-04-12T07:54:04+00:00

The reason your comment worked so well on the first girl is you both had something to talk about

This is why I always say comment first then introduce yourself

The interaction feels more organic and flows better

If you're not feeling the interaction going anywhere within the first couple minutes move on to the next girl

Don't waste your time on losing prospects

But yeah keep going out and grind your social skills and social intuition

Title	Problems Persist but so do I
Author	Hungry_Energy_8353
Upvotes	6
Comments	4
Date	April 11, 2026 10:02 PM UTC (3 months ago)
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