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KirthWGersen · 2022-02-21T19:23:59+00:00

Yeah, open up to me usually means, "Show me your hand so I can outplay you."

Show an insecurity means, "Give me ammunition to use against you in the future."

None of this is hard to deal with if you play the game right and understand that men and women communicate differently. Because just as often as the above mean the things I said, they are a test to see if you are the kind of fool who will fall for such obvious manipulation. If you fail the test, she can't respect you so much.

Like it or not, you have to play the game. It is part of being human. But you can choose to use that power maliciously or for the good of all concerned.

taytrovert · 2022-02-21T20:23:13+00:00

They've got men in the friend zone waiting for his chance to "communicate" his whole life to her. Meanwhile they're getting railed by men they claim is doing everything wrong. This is why you don't take dating advice from women.

taiwan-kit31 · 2022-02-21T21:43:28+00:00

Can confirm 100%. I've had some deep admissions eventually used against me when the relationship got rocky, or when I broke up with a girl.

Don't play that game. Doesn't matter if you've been with the girl 3 months or 3 years. These cunts are shameless in what they'll use to play against you.

Funny_Wolverine_9 · 2022-02-21T19:42:39+00:00

Quality post. As a divorced man, I can confirm most of the points made in this post.

PillUpAss · 2022-02-21T20:41:56+00:00

Good god that’s long.

Men with abundance have no problem with providing direct communication and, here’s the important part, reading indirect communication (watch what she does).

The problem occurs when men without abundance try to communicate directly - that’s ugly. Then top it off with being tone def to woman’s native tongue (indirect) - and we have a special formula for autism.

PiperBigBell · 2022-02-21T23:38:12+00:00

Damn, it really sucks that you went through the effort of writing an aimless post like this.

You would have been better writing a fourth of the content centered around what good communication from a man is, from the standpoint of manhood, and why as a man it only matters what you want in the communication and happiness.

Most times in my experience when a woman wanted me to open up, it was because they couldn't believe someone like me would want them. They wanted to humanize me so they didn't feel like shit or like they were being lied to.

The more high value you are in comparison the more confused and out of place she feels. If a woman tells you she wants you to open up more 9/10 times it's because you legitimately suck at conversation. They don't want deep dark secrets. They want to feel your energy and vibe.

They want to connect with you through a wide range of emotions while you hold your emotional centeredness. They want to feel your mission and manhood through your words. They're literally trying to further submit to you.

You just interpret that as them wanting you to submit to THEM.

Ivabighairy1 · 2022-02-22T02:25:42+00:00

I’ve never met a woman who was a good communicator

bouncypoo · 2022-02-22T04:08:26+00:00

I'll tell you the secret: "Do whatever the **** you want to do". IF you die tomorrow will you get a medal for "communicating well". IF you communicate with her it should be more along the lines of stating your directives on what and how she can better add to your life. How she can make things easier for you. Obviously you provide comfort here and there for LTRs but don't ever go off the deep end, if you ever feel like you are being emasculated or feel like less of a man( and you will know deep down), you are communicating too much...you are submitting to her frame.

R3Tr0tt · 2022-02-22T07:48:52+00:00

Even my own mother shamed me and insulted me with my own insecurities and secrets( some of them are medical conditions) i thought she would tell no one. It hurt so bad hearing her yelling these things and telling me i deserve it to be like that or have that happened to me. If a mother could do that to her son, why couldn't your wife or girlfriend?

Yashugan00 · 2022-02-22T09:07:46+00:00

"communication" often mean "I want the other person to do what I want,"

And this is how women approach Counceling. They're bringing in another fulcrum to bend reality. If she doesn't get what she wants out of counceling, if her bullshit isn't catered to, she'll leave councelling. It's the same economic principle that won the nobel prize in economics: why you can only find lemon cars in the second hand dealerships. eg: why counceling is not in the man's side.

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IAmTheOneWhoSlaps · 2022-02-22T15:53:28+00:00

What happened to this post?

TheRedPillRipper · 2022-02-22T01:23:22+00:00

None of this is hard to deal with

I’ve never really understood why it’s an issue. TRPer’s should focus on mastering their social skills. It’s a simple skill but pivotally beneficial.

Women want to feel connected

This is the key. It’s doesn’t matter how. They just have to feel connected. My simple way is to preface all my responses to my wife, first by repeating back what she’s said. e.g. Wife: ”I feel like a holiday.” Me: ”If you feel like a holiday, take the kids down to the beach.” Or another solid prefacing statement is ”Let me get this straight..” They’re just simple prompts that demonstrate you’re listening. As women don’t really mind too much, about listening to you. They’re more concerned with what you’re doing.

Godspeed and good luck!

neverendingplush · 2022-02-21T23:21:41+00:00

i read two sentences and gave up, but i think u wrote something about communicating. We really gotta stop overcomplicating talking to these bitches. In some weird way it seems like we are still pandering to them in blue pill fashion but looking through a red lens.

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