A simple but somewhat clarifying question to redpillers.

rporion · 2014-05-30T22:27:20+00:00

In my experience this is not true.

I was a handsome man with no game, what it gets you is dates and then you are so quickly dropped, you would not believe it.

If you "dont get it", no dice.

Denswend · 2014-05-31T14:29:27+00:00

The point of "game" is that despite physical attractiveness being a factor, it is usually the modus operandi, or the behaviour of a man, that women further challenge and test. Physical attractiveness decides that you're eligible to "get on the audition" so to speak. Your behaviour decides whether or not you "pass the audition".

To clarify, it is often said that women are gatekeepers of sex and men are gatekeepers of commitment - this postulate can then be further discussed by factoring in the human "behavioural hypergamy" (choosing the best), biological urges (polgamy/hypergamy), the fact that sexual competititon exists and the fact that resources are limited in a zero-sum game which sexual competition is to add on the fact that there exists a intragender competition between members of the same gender for what their gender is not a gatekeeper of. Thus, the postulate is rewritten as :

"Men compete for sex, women compete for affection"

Both want the best of their respective partner - women want a man who gives them and only them their mental commitment, men want a woman who gives them and only them their physical commitment. ( Of course, this isn't to say that women are okay with cheating or that men are okay with their women having orbiters around her. But compared to the other gender and averaged out as to give us the best possible explanation, this comes as an undeniable fact.)

Further sublimation of characteristics that would result in exclusivity of commitment being branded and perhaps judged as another dimension of attractiveness on a roughly objective value scale results in traditional gender roles.

An Alpha male is assertive, has self confidence and the ability to provide. This is what PUA community wants to do, inflate their SMV to give an illusion of a provider - not a "why-do-girls-date-jerks-provider" mind you, but the one who has the capacity to provide both superior genes and superior conditions. This is why the Dark Triad is so attractive - ability to manipulate and willingness to manipulate are crucial to survival. This is what Kurtz muses about in Heart of Darkness when he describes people who killed children - he finds them disgusting but he knows that these are the kind of people that have what it takes to win a war.

knitro · 2014-05-30T22:00:51+00:00

Maximization.

GayLubeOil · 2014-05-31T02:50:50+00:00

Iv had gym and looks longer than I had game. Women are atteacted to you but quickly get bored.

riverraider69 · 2014-05-31T05:58:25+00:00

If a woman had to choose between a handsome man with no game, and an ugly man with a lot of nice and skilled game, she would choose the handsome man.

I would really like a source for that.

There is more then one way to answer:

Women have a much fuzzier concept of handsome, and can easily include behavior clues into it. Plus stuff like build, clothes, posture etc
Looks are overall much less important. Status (contextual and social), confidence, game etc matter more.
Women have an exponential response to hotness. A 6 can receive the same treatment as an 8. A 10 on the other hand is treated like royalty. So for a good 80% of men (2-9) game is the big differentiator, not looks.

I think the only physical aspect that's set in stone and really matters is height.

SkorchZang · 2014-05-30T22:04:16+00:00

In my experience it's the exact opposite of what you wrote, dude. Good game is key; you don't have to be "the best of the best" at it, just good enough is fine, already goes a long-long way.

The women choose the guy with solid game, almost every time. It's also not really a conscious choice; it's something they love to hamster about later at length.

"I usually go for more built guys (more affluent, more celebrity, more whatever)... but there's just something about you... just something..."

ITHOUGHTYOUMENTWEAST · 2014-05-31T03:47:50+00:00

If you have strong frame and game you become attractive. It's the same as girls that say "oh he's so funny and smart" when in reality he is a complete dumbass and isn't funny at all, she is simply attracted to him.

Women aren't men, most of our attraction comes from physical looks, and while that is true for women to an extent, an attractive man would end up, if he fucked it up hard enough, looking like a complete awkward loser.

Of course the attractive guy can get away with more shit, but they can fuck it up enough to seem unattractive.

Subtletorious · 2014-05-31T06:49:27+00:00

Cooltrip: You are thinking like a recent serial killer. Chill-out. There are countless men ahead of you on the trail. The path is well worn and proven safe.

Edit: RP is not about women - they are just a side effect. RP is about getting yourself together.

4FF41R · 2014-05-30T23:16:48+00:00

It's not that simple, and your should substitute handsome with attractive.

A good looking guy who is a wuss at a bar with 20-something has no chance to a good PUA or someone decent looking with game.

shortcurse · 2014-05-30T23:02:45+00:00

Its all about height bro, I've seen enough 6 foot+ guys pull chicks with minimum effort

Title	A simple but somewhat clarifying question to redpillers.
Author	cooltrip
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Date	May 30, 2014 9:52 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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