Navigating Masculinity as a Black Transman

MYGODWHATHAVEIDONE · 2013-04-05T19:08:51+00:00

This sub has enjoyed reading about the experience of Norah Vincent and her unexpected realizations when she tried to pass as a man. I thought this article about a transman might provide a similarly interesting window into the empathy for the male experience that a woman develops when she transitions to a man.

blueoak9 · 2013-04-05T23:27:19+00:00

A straight wrist is about the most important thing in boxing. Punching someone with a not-straight or limp wrist is a very easy way to get yourself seriously hurt.

CosmicKeys · 2013-04-06T02:16:05+00:00

In many ways I wish more feminists could experience the reality of masculinity and any privileges are clearly balanced against punishments for failure. But they seem to refuse to listen to the experiences of trans people. At least this feminist is able to talk about it.

Virgil_Lee_Nobody · 2013-04-06T04:26:41+00:00

Thank you, OP. This article is SO important in breaking through a lot of the garbage and assumptions that a lot of women (feminist, non feminist) make about men. This will actually help me broaden and expand a lot of arguments.

gwolf100 · 2013-04-06T00:55:48+00:00

I mean on one hand I really did enjoy the article, but something about the language of gender always bothers me, it always feels Orwellian to me. Womyn, bois, cisgendered. Sometimes yes the language is necessary but often it just feels divisive. If you tell me you're a man or that you want to be a man then welcome to the brotherhood. Don't single yourself out with the word boi or whatever. So you're an effeminate man? So are lots of men, you don't need a special word, you're still a man. Is identifying as trans important? Only if a) your external features would lead me to think you were a woman or b) If you felt it was necessary. As far as I'm concerned the author is free to drop trans from their maleness. Visibly looks male if not lanky, and identifies as male. Welcome to being a man.

Greyfeld · 2013-04-06T04:08:29+00:00

This feels like a reading of Super Special Snowflake Syndrome (4S for short) than an exploration of masculinity. The faux-masculinity described in the lesbian community isn't the same as real masculinity, and the author of this article seems to have completely conflated the two. In the end, he (She? This person still has a vagina and "feels feminine," despite having breasts removed.) is trying to find a gender identity in the midst of a very black-and-white, binary understanding of gender identity. And a biased one at that.

giegerwasright · 2013-04-05T23:40:08+00:00

Gross. Peppered with jargon and doublespeak. This is a black woman. Who wants to be a man and has taken drugs and had surgery to appear to be a man. But is not. Nor never will be.

For a member of a group that loves to complain about social dogma, this woman sure has a lot of dogma.

edit: OK. She doesn't have to striaghten her wrist. She will still lose fights to those who do. That's life. Repercussions. Welcome to it.

Title	Navigating Masculinity as a Black Transman
Author	MYGODWHATHAVEIDONE
Upvotes	29
Comments	40
Date	April 5, 2013 7:00 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/mensrights/comments/1br1js/navigating-masculinity-as-a-black-transman/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/navigating-masculinity-as-a-black-transman.1609820 https://theredarchive.com/post/1609820

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