Which top five, first world countries do you think are worst for men regarding men's rights? Just curious.

MakhSC · 2014-12-12T17:55:09+00:00

Making lists is fun - but meaningless unless you're willing to provide some more objective criteria.

I think North Korea and Somalia should be high on that list though, because they have sh%# rights and half the population is male.

Faryshta · 2014-12-12T18:15:28+00:00

No particular order: Sweden ( this is definitely the worst)

Canada

Australia

India

USA

UK

jamminnummeruno · 2014-12-12T17:32:34+00:00

After some consideration I came up with these ones in ranking order :

Canada
Australia
America
England
France

elwahrio · 2014-12-12T20:08:46+00:00

From what I have read, the UK,

Non-custodial fathers are treated terribly, and the vast majority don't get regular access to their children. Plus plenty of anti-father rhetoric in public life (school banning fathers day?).

Getting divorced? They call London the divorce capitol of the world, but not for men.

Being accused of rape? Expect to be sexually assaulted and brutalized by the police on the flimsiest of accusations, following by a rapid mock trial in a kangaroo court where crucial evidence - like the accusers past history of making false accusations - is banned by law.

On the other hand, the UK is the only (western) country in the world jailed false accusers, but that doesn't help the men where the false accusation was overlooked by the pigs.

The amount of anti-male rhetoric coming out of Canada is unbelievable. I am not sure how much translates to human rights abuses on the ground, but it doesn't sound good. Canada may well be the pussy-pass capitol of the world though from what I have read, and a particular case where they granted refugee status to a female child sex offender who crossed the border from the USA speaks volumes. She abused a male child of course.

The USA? Well obviously there is the whole rape culture thing, and the college kangaroo court system, and the truly, truly shocking state-run child support system that jails tens of thousands of fathers for losing their jobs or taking a pay cut, and the general crappy outcome if you happen to be born a black man. On the other hand you have a bill of rights, a constitution, real free speech, and a mainstream right-wing commentator community that regularly criticizes feminism in ways not seen in other Western countries.

Then there is New Zealand. Well, not much to be said about these sheep fuckers, except to say that until recently it was legal for women to rape boys. And they still cant be charged with the crime of rape. If your a boy and don't like being sexually abused as a child, not a great place to grow up.

Finally, Australia, a place I can write with a bit more expertise. Firstly, Australia does not need to be on the top 5. Here's why:

Strong anti-feminist sentiment in the community. Elected a Prime Minister who basically stuck feminism in the eye during the election, doing many things that would have killed his chances in most other Western countries. Instead his popularity rose. Slayed our first female PM, who also happened to be a noxious feminist (surprise surprise). Politicians don't try and constantly pander to the "woman's vote" by pumping anti-male feminist rhetoric - because they know it will destroy their male vote. So there is a refreshing silence on womans issues and feminist rhetoric - despite the left-wing Labor packed being stacked to the rafters with agitating feminists - they have all been muzzled by their well founded fear of being kicked back to the street by the men of Australia and the woman who love them.
An economy that favors men. Our overall "wage gap" is improving in favor of men, mainly because there is (or was) an abundance of jobs in the mining industry, that saw 20-year olds earn 6 figures for driving oversized tonka trucks.
The main right-wing political party supports mens rights. It has in particular fought for fathers rights and made changes in the early 2000s to improve child access and make child support fairer (or less abusively unfair). It even recognized the tsunami of false claims made by women against men during divorce - and passed laws forcing courts to pay less weight to suspicious claims made for the first time during divorce proceedings. In other words, real meaningful outcomes. The current political situation prevents them from basically basically any legislation, but I have no doubt they would continue to improve mens rights if they were able.
Prostitution is legal, cheap and safe. Politicians on all sides are known to partake, as are the Unionists who basically prop up the left wing Labor party. In other words, the Swedish model has no chance of taking off here. And we are a few hours by plane to Asia if you like to do it overseas.
Downsides? The legal system is extremely anti-male and biased. The pussy pass is still handed out with abandon, and false rape claims happen all the time. Also, there is a lot of white ribbon/male-feminist crap that goes on, and "Family Violence" rhetoric is reaching fever pitch in some parts. But they are screaming into a vacuum for the most part, pretty easy to ignore.
Oh, and boys can be boys and girls can be girls. In Sweden they are trying to eliminate gender in schools. Recently in Australia some nutters suggested banning pink and blue presents and Christmas. The backlash was ugly. A feminist politician supported the ban, and was basically kicked in the head by the PM. In the linked article you can even see the poll where the majority opposed the ban - unremarkable you might think but this is a poll is a rabid, left-wing feminist news site. If it was Murdoch news site it would have been at least 90% against.

Yeah so stick Sweden in the top five instead of Australia. Or maybe even Spain.

ThePigmanAgain · 2014-12-12T20:02:26+00:00

Sweden is by far the worst. We're talking about a country in which men are given less protection against violence, not by the way the law is applied but by the way it is actually written. Canada, Australia, Iceland and the UK also shit on men in a thorough and systematic way. That will change once the West sinks to Third World levels and everything turns into a grim fight for survival, but for at least another 10 - 20 years this is how it is.

daktardoom · 2014-12-13T00:09:10+00:00

At least in the US, UK, Canada and even India people are discussing men's rights, or questioning feminism. In Europe, there's no such thing. You can't question feminism here anyway near the same way you can nowadays in the US. Online, at least. At least in the US, even feminists are aware of male issues. If they agree they need to be adressed before women achieve "equality" (or even care about them) or not is a different matter.

awemany · 2014-12-13T01:16:36+00:00

USA. Your justice system sucks big time - please fix it. Not even talking about that your sentencing is cruel and totally out of whack. And then to add to that, mix in all of feminism with things like rape shield laws and de-facto abolishment of the presumption of innocence in rape cases, and it is downright scary to even once step on U.S. ground.

Penuno · 2014-12-12T19:20:25+00:00

Not sure about men's rights but in terms of fathers rights Germany has to be way up there. They are deeply mired in a 1950's mindset and women are literally guaranteed custody. Family court is just kangaroo court. This goes especially for non_German parents who are treated like non-beings except when it comes to support payments.

SupremeAuthority · 2014-12-13T19:47:43+00:00

How is NO PATERNITY TESTS France not #1?

Title	Which top five, first world countries do you think are worst for men regarding men's rights? Just curious.
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