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[–]Throwawaysteve12345642 points43 points44 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No, this is terrible advice. It's basically what happens when you skim through the sidebar and jump to conclusions. However, if you have to choose between being a total prick or being a pushover beta, do the former. Showing indifference is key, being a prick is more characteristic of a frustrated beta.
[–]failingtheturingtest18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
being a prick is more characteristic of a frustrated beta.
This needs to be highlighted.
[–]yes_we_can_t21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, never treat women like shit. Be an awesome guy. Build an awesome life, let them be part of it. Be playful, tease, have fun.
[–]JackGetsIt9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
You get what you put out. If I put out shit, I'm gonna get shitty women
By shitty women do you mean ugly women or just morally shitty? Most men that truly treat women like shit get laid like gangbusters but also end up dating terribly unstable women and also don't do well in life because, well, they are assholes and life is full of compensation.
I really don't know if it's logical to treat EVERY woman like this.
What? Who told you should treat people like shit?? Why the fuck would you do this?? Are you a troll? You shouldn't treat anybody like shit. Is this what you think Redpill is saying?? Taking women off a pedestal does not mean throwing them in a trough. Even your enemies. They are just baiting you in and you rarely come away clean in the process.
Let me help you understand the redpill position.
94.572% of the time women say you are treating them like shit to shit test you. They are basically fucking with your psyche, your spirit, your soul. They want to see how you hold yourself, how you view yourself. Women cannot easily control the physical world so they've mastered the social world. The good news: women only shit test men they want to fuck. Whenever a women challenges me I say to myself: "JackGetsIt, this little lady wants to bang."
Here's the problem, and the solution.
If a women accuses you of treating her like shit you need to continue your behavior. If she continues to complain, keep going. If beta orbiters complain, keep going. If she gets her friends involved keep going. If she gets a stranger involved, keep going.
If you you want to do 'better' with women NEVER EVER EVER:
D.E.E.R.
Defend, explain, excuse, rationalize to a women.
Women fuck alphas and alphas do not defend, explain, excuse or rationalize their behavior to anyone but superiors.
You can always look at the scene in hindsight or conference with neutral parties and other friendly trustworthy males to get perspective AFTER the incident. Then if you were in the wrong adjust your behavior in the future accordingly.
[–]JaspersChest2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Solid comment man, thank you
[–]topothebellcurve7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Of course you shouldn't treat anyone like shit. What, exactly, are you referring to by that phrase?
[+]JaspersChest-8 points-7 points-6 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Women
[–]topothebellcurve2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Wut? ...no, i mean what does "treating a woman like shit" mean in this context?
[–]JaspersChest-3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Going out if your way to be rude to her
[–]topothebellcurve11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe some will advise being rude, but I don't think that's advisable. If you are with your friends and you bust their balls, you're not being rude. You're playing around.
If you do this to a girl, you are displaying that you don't view them as above you, which is what they are generally used to. That sets you apart and is attractive, and it isn't treating them like shit.
If a girl responds with attractuon to actually being treated like shit, I would recommend bailing anyways, because she's got more issues than a magazine.
[–]Insendi1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed, as soon as I meet a girl I’ll joke with her as if we’ve been comfortable with each other for years and it’s definitely gotten results.
[–]Shukakun1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not going to put words in your mouth, but you might consider qualifiers (which is damn near mandatory when flirting) as "going out of your way to be rude to her". Tell me whether or not you think these examples are too rude:
Her: You're flirting with me, aren't you? You: I'm not sure yet. Are you worth flirting with?
You: You're my type, I love short redhead girls. Your outfit is a bit funny-looking though, do you always dress like this?
Not the best examples, but conversations can go like this without you necessarily being a horrible person. What people say is usually not as important as how they say it. If you say this with a serious, angry tone, then yes, you're basically telling her "You're a bum, get out of my sight you disgusting person". That's being an asshole for real. But if you're having the exact same conversation while talking with a carefree tone and smiling, she's more likely to smile back, push you teasingly and say "Oh my God, you're such an asshole!". See, she considers both versions assholes, but different kinds of assholes. The first guy is just a socially inept bitter person who no one would want to hang out with. The other guy is someone with a sense of humor who isn't afraid of insulting her in fear of losing this golden opportunity to earn the honor of seeing her heavenly vagina. (Clarification: Vaginas are nice, but they aren't heavenly and they aren't important. There are billions of them.)
[–]AlphaGrad0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Doesn't take going out of your way to create attraction, but someone's gotta take the lead, someone's gotta dominate, someone's gotta be bad so the other can be good.
[–]Shukakun0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's an interesting way of putting it. Makes sense. Whatever connotations" bad boy" might have, you definitely don't want to be "good boy". Unless you want to be a pet in a sexless marriage, I guess.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The type of women who respond well to being treated like shit, are the type of women to level a stupid #metoo accusation against you.
You treat yourself well, first, and treat the others around you with decency second.
[–]Shukakun3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Treat women like shit" is the way a lot of people misinterpret rp. The actual message is "Treat yourself better than you treat women (or other people in general for that matter)".
You're not going to "win" by dealing drugs, calling your girls bitches and punching them when you get mad.
However, you're definitely going to lose by going "Oh you want to do X activity, yeah me too. Oh you like X, me too. Oh I disagreed with you, sorry please don't leave me".
That's how a lot of men behave these days, they behave like every woman they try to get with is the last one on earth.
It's not about disrespecting women. It's about respecting yourself.
On the topic of respect, remember that it's something to be earned, not demanded. If anyone ever demands your respect, you most definitely should not respect them.
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No, but you need to be selfish.
You come first. Give her 1/3 what she gives you.
It's easy when you've got high abundance
[–]JizzCleaver0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
How would you suggest people with little options to do so?
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Become higher value.
[–]AlphaGrad0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
By going monk mode.
[–]michasv1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I believe that treating her like shit is going to the extreme. when you train yourself to be a jerk then often times you do it with all the people in your life and it can destruct your relationships with people you care about. you should always be easy going and fun guy to be around. the only thing that you do need to embrace from the jerk is the boundaries. woman are attracted to jerks because they don't take shit form them. that's it. they aren't a pushover. raise the standards of your self respect and always keep in mind that self respect first, pussy second.
[–]AlphaGrad1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Should you treat shit like women?
Reminds me of these lyrics:
But, girl, don't sit on that couch 'cause I treat my objects like women.
[–]GreenPiller2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You get what you put out. If I put out shit, I'm gonna get shitty women. That's my view.
Every woman has the ability to turn into a huge cunt depending on how she feels abot you. Men and women are not the same, you may feel like you're treating her like shit, but she is happily swimming in a sea of feelings. Its fucked up, but getting dominated by a strong man fulfills them completely. I'll never truly understand it but it is what it is, so don't feel bad. You are basically giving her what she craves.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
you may feel like you're treating her like shit, but she is happily swimming in a sea of feelings
This is an interesting quote. Which post/book is this from? Sounds like the art of seduction.
[–]GreenPiller1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I based it off a mexican quote that says "hit me but please don't leave me." Its a common phrase we use every time the husband gets away with hitting his wife without consequences or jail time. Ever since I was a child I always wondered why the wife would never press charges, she actually seemed happy.
[–]Wrath_of_Trump-3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
2010 is calling
For a barrage of downvotes to your comment.
[–]TheKidWithBieberHair-4 points-3 points-2 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I'm onboard with you pal. I'm starting to think most of this is bullshit with a little cult following.
Yeah, not. It's just the beta in you.
[–]JaspersChest-2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
I've been thinking that for awhile.
I don't fully believe a lot of what these people teach because they live in a different world than I do.
I think we only need the basics to get by
Confidence. A life if our own. Passion. Strength. A level head.
[–]Deep_freeze2021 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's what the red pill is, the rest is just stuff to help people get there, take what's useful to you and leave the rest. If "treating women like shit" doesn't make sense to you it's probably either because you're taking it out of context or you won't find it useful. There's a lot of stuff here that's situation dependant, if you read someone say "ALWAYS agree and amplify", then when your girl says she's pregnant you go "yeah you're sooo pregnant" it's going to sound stupid as fuck and make no sense whatsoever, that doesn't mean agree and amplify is useless.
Treating women like shit is just another tool in your kit and in any given situation it may be the right tool or the wrong tool. You don't use a hammer to turn a screw, doesn't mean you should never use a hammer for anything. It could be a girl is giving you shit to see if you've got the balls to stand up to her, maybe she's just craving some drama and wants some conflict treating her nicely is only going to make her lose all respect for you and you won't be getting any awesome makeup sex either. Emotion, sex and relationships are all deeply intertwined, this is basic shit, go back and read the sidebar before you start discounting shit.
[–]IVIaskerade0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
because they live in a different world than I do.
They don't.
[–]JaspersChest-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
They do
[–]IVIaskerade0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Just because you don't want something to be true doesn't make it so.
[–]JaspersChest0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Maybe you should take your own advise
[–]IVIaskerade0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Maybe you should sit down if you're gonna try and mouth off.
For a guy who clearly has no idea what he's talking about, you talk too much and listen too little.
[–]JaspersChest0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I only listen to we'll constructed comments with a point.
If you would've told me how TRP isn't living in a different world, I would've listened.
If you would've asked what I meant by that phrase, I would've told you.
You automatically assume that you're right, that's a big no no.
[–]IVIaskerade0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If only you could make them, too.
I shouldn't need to tell you because you're a person with a brain (though that may have been a mistake to assume) and can therefore think things through.
But since I may have attributed too much to you, I'll give you a freebie:
They live in the same world you do, because women are women. They even play by the same rules you have to play by. The difference is that they recognise the rules they're playing by and you don't - of course, you don't recognise this so of course you think they're playing a different game, but ultimately it's you who isn't playing by the real rules. Now, if you did recognise and play by them you'd begin to realise what I've said, but that'll come with time.
I don't actually give a shit what you mean by it because I already know it's gonna be some hamster bullcrap that wastes everybody's time.
You automatically assume that you're right
Actually I just assume you're wrong. Which you are.
[–]JaspersChest1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Touchè
[–]TheKidWithBieberHair0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. I've been thinking the same. Most TRP strategies have just been making me feel like a dick 24/7.
[–]nikopua-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're right. Now watch me fuck your wife.
It wouldn't be my proudest fap
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