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Loose Pussy Problem

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February 24, 2017
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So 8 months in. M44, F39. Read the sidebar. Struggling with consistency with SL 5X5, but working with the 16YO and pushing each other. I also just finished my military physical and labs were off. I have a plan and in 6 months, my health should be corrected. Mental state and developing some sort of frame has moved the marriage about 160 degrees. Not going the entirely correct direction but much improved. Sex went from DB to everyday if I am in my frame and on my game. The final 20 degrees is all on me, but I have a mental and physical wall I am struggling with.

Wife has followed me when I introduced sex toys. She likes them now, specifically vibes. When she uses them, she is tight and it’s great. When she doesn't she's loose and I don't feel much at all. Granted, she pushed out 4 kids so things are stretched out. It hit me last week that sex is 80% me where I do almost all the work. It was like a ton of bricks on my head that I was working to get here only to find a loose pussy and 20% participation. I don’t want sex to be all about the toys in order for me to feel anything. Shit. Now that I am actually writing this out, a huge covert contract to self-improve to get sex is screaming at me from my computer screen. Ugh. If I were around dread level 5-6, I have no doubt she would be doing what it takes to keep the pussy tight to drain my balls. I am at a 3-4 right now.

Anyway, I am here and I’ve lost attraction and incentive for sex with wife when I realized this. Is this normal? Has anyone else experienced this? If so, how did you handle it?


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Title Loose Pussy Problem
Author RecoveringBPAddict
Upvotes 6
Comments 24
Date 24 February 2017 02:45 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/206484
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/5vxt09/loose_pussy_problem/
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[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (3 children) | Copy

I love it. This thread has been cross-posted and the bluepill literally and figuratively has their panties in a wad over it. It's silly what aggravates them.

And now to set this answer straight, BEHOLD THE POWER OF PUSSY!

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (7 children) | Copy

When you're not overweight, prediabetic, with high cholesterol, and consistently going to the gym to get ripped, then you can complain about a loose pussy.

In the meantime, focus on your mission. Put less of an emphasis on sex, and put more effort into creating intimacy with your wife. Live in the moment (breathe through her or some shit like Way of the Superior Man says). You can't change your pussy, but you can change your mindset and your expectations on what the"perfect" sexual experience feels like.

[–]RecoveringBPAddict[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

When you're not overweight, prediabetic, with high cholesterol, and consistently going to the gym to get ripped, then you can complain about a loose pussy.

LOL. Although my issues are not this extreme, this is really well said. After 8 months of work, I am still an FNG and have plenty of work to do on myself. I am irritated with the discomfort and I need to do a better job taking comfort in the discomfort. You are right, I have enough to worry about with myself to worry about her pussy ... for now. Thanks for knocking me with the correct perspective!

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

You can't change your pussy

Pussy is a muscle and you can change it big time if you are willing to put in some effort. Just about any woman can learn to take the cap off a bottle of cola using her lips alone- although, concededly that would probably take years of consistent practice and we obviously can't expect such effort from our women (/s).

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (3 children) | Copy

The lips are made out of the same skin as a scrotum.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes, of course they are, and they are not even a muscle. I am talking about the muscle inside. Jesus Christ it's like the inquisition with these people. Parsing and twisting everything you say even when it is just to have a good time and amuse yourself.

Watch the video if you have any questions.

NSFW:

https://xhamster.com/movies/3879452/chinese_girl_open_the_beer_bottle_use_her_pussy.html

[–]dreadredrooms2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

True but vagina is made of muscle and can be strengthened with exercise. Look up kegels.

[–]RBuddDwyerRed Beret7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

She likes them now, specifically vibes. When she uses them, she is tight and it’s great. When she doesn't she's loose and I don't feel much at all.

That's a big sign right there.

Granted, she pushed out 4 kids so things are stretched out.

The vagina is just a muscle. She can exercise it and get it as tight as she wants. Number of children have no bearing on tightness.

It hit me last week that sex is 80% me where I do almost all the work. It was like a ton of bricks on my head that I was working to get here only to find a loose pussy and 20% participation.

Welcome to reality. Men are the active sex, women are the passive, receptive sex. Women are designed to be passive for sex. Shit, it's even inherent in the physiology itself. You have to penetrate her. She receives your cock in her pussy. That dynamic plays out on every single level. Men lead, women follow. That applies to everything, especially sex.

Now that I am actually writing this out, a huge covert contract to self-improve to get sex is screaming at me from my computer screen. Ugh. If I were around dread level 5-6, I have no doubt she would be doing what it takes to keep the pussy tight to drain my balls. I am at a 3-4 right now.

Well there you go, you figured it out yourself. It's always about you. She reacts to you in every way: sex, life, work, family, everything. Women have been said to be like water, they take the form of whatever container you pour them into. Guess what, you are the container. This is clear evidence that you have got a lot of work to do. Dread isn't going to be the one thing that fixes this, either. Dread is the result of your improvement, it's evidence of your increasing attractiveness. Dread is not a tool in and of itself. You don't dread your wife, your wife feels dread as a result of your increasing SMV relative to her.

Also, it looks like you are still in her frame, reacting to her giving better sex to the dildo. You even say it yourself here:

If I were around dread level 5-6, I have no doubt she would be doing what it takes to keep the pussy tight to drain my balls.

You are wanting to get to levels 5-6 so that she will give you better sex. Stop doing things just to get her to change. That's letting her set the frame, and you will never get the life you want that way. You improve yourself for yourself and for no one else. Not the marriage, not her, not so she will fuck you. You improve you because you are the only person that matters.

[–]RecoveringBPAddict[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Stop doing things just to get her to change. That's letting her set the frame

Wow, this is gold. I never thought of it that way.

[–]RBuddDwyerRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I never thought of it that way.

It is quite the paradigm shift.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's why Budd and I aren't as harsh red pill rambo, other than it's execution.

Nothing says frame like operation scorched earth aka 'devil may care' attitudes.

This is why we say sidebar all the time BTW. Between all the stuff there, it's hard to see a situation that isn't covered

[–]resolutions3161 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't have an answer for you, but good on you for recognizing your CC mid-post.

Kegels and such are of course out there for your wife, but that won't fix the motivation issue.

[–]Coniferous_881 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think most guys in their journey experience a certain 'lag time' where they have improved to the point where IOIs from other women are becoming more frequent and yet the wife/LTR hasn't quite caught up. This is a difficult time because your hard work is beginning to pay off, but not with the wife...yet.

It seems to be a familiar pattern: guy discovers RP because of dead bedroom or shitty wife, guy swallows the pill and improves, sex frequency goes up but its still vanilla starfish duty sex, guy gets frustrated because younger-hotter-tighter from the office is relentlessly hitting on him while the wife remains her shitty old self.

The answer remains the same- increase dread, realize abundance mentality, make yourself your mental point of origin, have a mission, and remember that you decide how long to wait for her to catch up/catch on that your SMV has exceeded hers and you are the prize that she better step up to keep.

Once you're at dread level 5 or 6, you should begin actively leading the sexual dynamic...tell her what you want, tease/deprive, go caveman if you aren't getting her best effort, etc. TFA wrote a blog post about creating your slut, read it here: https://thefamilyalpha.com/2015/12/30/creating-your-slut/

[–]RecoveringBPAddict[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Once you're at dread level 5 or 6, you should begin actively leading the sexual dynamic...tell her what you want, tease/deprive, go caveman if you aren't getting her best effort, etc

I read the sex god method and tried a few techniques, but got some hard no's and a few yes's. The yes's were in direct proportion to my progress. I guess I am pushing these issues too early before I have built myself into someone who deserves it.

[–]Coniferous_880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Pushing the limits and continuous efforts at initiating are always good...primarily because it sets the expectation that you want and desire a certain amount of sex. She needs to be fully aware that you are a man and as such have a base level biological need for sex. This is why having the "talk" is never as effective as just initiating more...women talk, men do.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

You sound like a kid who didn't get what he wants, so he's taking his toys and going home...

[–]RecoveringBPAddict[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yep. I sure do.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

plan to not do that? Have you never fucked someone who you didn't really want to before?

Hatefuck, anything?

I mean, if you aren't making the effort to fuck your wife, or divorce your wife, what are you doing?

[–]RecoveringBPAddict[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry. It is hard having all my ego stripped away with everything you write. You were spot on and there is still ego in there to kill. It is at the root of my OP. I am working on that next. Thanks.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Is she overweight? Does she exercise? Does she do Kegels? Having kids doesn't necessarily distend the vagina unless she's out of shape.

[–]RecoveringBPAddict[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, but I've dropped from 35% BF to around 22% BF. I have some leadership going on here. She has dropped from 35% to around 30% in the last 8 months. I think this one is on my and my failed leadership. I am working this one.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck her in the ass.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Put in the work........ trust me, she will follow and do what it takes to keep you

She will fix her loose pussy, mine is working on it currently



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