Work Drama Queens

smokingmonkey420 · 2014-05-15T10:18:26+00:00

I go to school for a position in health care that is about 90% female dominated (sure you can guess what it is). I'm with a group now that failed last year, meaning we all failed the last semester and had to repeat.

These women constantly bitched about how unfair everything about the school was. From the tests , to the grades, to the teachers. Nothing was fair. Truth be told, they did make some good points. There were some things about the program that were screwed up.

With that being said, I sat down one afternoon with the group and one of our instructors to have a post-conference. The subject of last year came up again, like always, and the teacher who was visibly fed up, asked, "If it was so messed up, then how come all those other students passed the tests last year?"

They all agreed that it was because those students were "better guessers." I shit you not. It's not because they studied harder, were smarter, or just did what they needed to do. It's because they were "better guessers."

I tried blurting out, "give them some credit" but it fell on deaf ears. No responsibility. No accountability. It's always someone else's fault.

culofiesta · 2014-05-15T06:32:41+00:00

I worked in two offices that were mainly women;

The first was about 75% women though it may as well have been 100%. They had "Women's business" meetings men were not allowed to go to, they sold homemade jewelry in the office, there were gossips everywhere, few of the women did any actual work, there was always cake and garbage around. At one point there were FIVE pregnant women in the office (that always needed special accomodations and "breaks") and SIX engaged women that had planned months long breaks for weddings, honeymoons, etc. The place was chaos.

Me and a gay guy were the only two men in another job. It was much more professional but often everyone would just leave in the early afternoon for no reason at all (though one time it was an office wide shopping trip just because). One woman, a manager, would whine and giggle and cry like a child almost daily. They talked over the entire office so everyone could hear. Most of them forgot there was a male (me) there and would openly say things that would get any male fired on the spot. My boss, an older woman, flirted with me.

I have no problem working with women, many of them are great and professional but in the several male dominated businesses I worked for, neither of them came close to the lack of professionalism I saw in those two.

NeoBushi · 2014-05-15T15:08:12+00:00

All it takes is one drama queen with HR/legal on speed dial to come in a completely ruin the work environment. I used to love my job until she came in and caused a big stink. We're a team of really valuable and hard working men but now we have to tip toe around and be careful not to offend anyone in order to not lose our jobs. We all know who's back the company has mostly because the law is on her side but also because HR is running all of these women in the workforce campaigns and such. Specialized IT training for women? As far as I know an operating system behaves the same whether you have a dick or a vagina. It's ironic that it's hurt the company more than anything since we're now mostly putting in the bare minimum. There is no more camaraderie or loyalty to our cause.

When I first started out I was scared to put myself out there and take responsibility for big issues too but I had courage, did it anyway and GREW AS A PERSON because the struggle makes us better people. I worked around assholes and idiots and figured out how to do it effectively in order to get the most out of our interactions. I know that there are unpleasant people out there that I will not agree with yet I do not expect the world to adjust to make me comfortable.

I've worked with some awesome women too. They've been funny and smart, strong and competent (or even submissive and competent). I've never had to watch what I said around these ladies because they acted like adults. Seems like a lot of helping women excel in the workplace is just telling them to grow the fuck up. When people supplicate and cater to your every whim it only slows your intellectual growth/maturity.

mordanus · 2014-05-15T05:32:08+00:00

"I don’t want to hire any more women. Yes, I said it. You cringed when you read it" .... ummm nope. I didn't.

She gets the ball rolling with "I get extremely angry when I come across articles that insist there are gender differences that extend beyond physiology" and then goes on a few paragraphs worth of why that is absolutely not true. Women are gossips and whiney and constantly in need of validation. Women have quite her workplace to find themselves yet, "I have not had a single male employee quit with no plan in mind."

Then she explains how she has to tell guys simply what her feedback for them is, but when it comes to a woman, "I plan, I prepare, I think, I run it through my business partner and then I think again. I start with a lot of positive feedback before I feel that I have cushioned my one small negative comment sufficiently, yet it is rarely enough. We talk forever, dissect every little piece of it, and then come back to the topic time and time again in the future. And I also have to confirm that I still like them – again and again, and again."

Even after seeing this first hand her hamster refuses to let her see the truth. Men and women are different as fuck and not just physically. We will never be equals.

Men and women are like hammers and screwdrivers. Our tasks are similar but never equal. Not greater or lesser but not equal either. Just different. You can't take a hammer and switch it in place of a screwdriver because it just doesn't work as well there. Trying to say men and women are interchangeable is like saying a hammer and a screwdriver are interchangeable.

People need to give up on this equality notion because it forces a false assumption that one of us used to be greater than the other and that was never the case. Both genders created society into what it is today but accepting their roles and doing them well.

hipst · 2014-05-15T13:21:11+00:00

The comments are a goldmine:

Back in 1999, I heard in class about this research that shows that women tend to speak more tentatively and apologetically in professional settings and fear what being aggressive would do to their image.

I was incensed by the whole thing and ranted and raved against the sexism of the study and the people who thought it worthy of discussion. I considered the whole discussion to be so offensive as to rise to the level of hate speech, of which opinion I immediately informed the class and the professor.

And now, 15 years later, it kills me to admit that the study reported an actual existing phenomenon. I’m ready to jump on the tiniest bit of proof that this phenomenon is all in my head and comes from my prejudice. If anybody can give that minuscule bit of proof, I really need it.

Her hamster is screaming to be fed; she can't rationalize this away any longer.

Edit: Fixed a few things.

2014-05-15T13:37:43+00:00

I don’t want to hire any more women. Yes, I said it. You cringed when you read it.

Haha. In fact, I did not cringe. The first thing that went through my head was:

"This person knows what they are talking about, and I will trust their analysis much more now that they have said this."

Anyone who has worked in an environment which was primarily female will almost certainly be of the same mindset.

Menhad · 2014-05-15T20:55:00+00:00

Military Version.

Girl in my division is a raging bitch, back stabs, kisses asses of higher ranking personal, etc. One day she reports to my LPO (Leading Petty Officer, like a manager) that there was a group of guys harassing her. The guys in question where just dicks to talked shit to everyone to get a rise out of people, they "harassed" everyone.

But she goes to him and says they are harassing her, a pretty strong charge in the military. So LPO goes and talks to the dudes and other people and gets the story that they are just assholes, but they decided that they could play this game as well. They mention to LPO that she's banging her supervisor (a big no no), and suggest she get in trouble to fraternization.

LPO tells the girl that she is being investigated for fraternization and for her sake she should avoid hanging around the supervisor. Clearly not happy with the fact that she had the tables turned on her, she goes and gets the CMEO (Command Managed Equal Opportunity) Officer and says the LPO said she can't hang around men.

Her word versus his and she wins. LPO gets transferred (honestly he's lucky that was all), eval time comes around and "somehow" she gets an EP (Early Promote, the highest score you can get on an eval, doesn't mean she got promoted but it helps) despite not being qualified in jack shit and the fact that there is only a limited number of EPs the department can give. I think that she was given the EP so she wouldn't accuse more people of sexism, but in doing so they took it from someone more deserving and now all the senior male leadership cowers to all her whims because they have careers to protect.

I really wish the military was all male. Of all the females I have worked with I would only consider 10% of them being worth the money they where paid, 80% just flirt and get all the guys to pick up their work load and another 10% are actively destructive to good order and morale.

RepostTony · 2014-05-15T15:58:03+00:00

My current significant other works in an office dominated by woman. EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. I have to hear about drama. No joke. It is like a Jerry Springer show.

TheSKSpecial · 2014-05-15T17:30:55+00:00

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648262 · 2014-05-15T06:20:16+00:00

I like the author. Yes, she hamsters, carry a feminist badge and is having a difficult calling a shovel for a shovel. But it just feels good to see someone in power make some sensible discoveries and decisions.

Rimeheart · 2014-05-15T17:34:49+00:00

This reminds me of my time working in retail. This was for black friday, and I was the only one scheduled with a shift long enough that warranted a mandatory 30 min lunch break. Well our store was slow, so we were all supposed to be stocking new inventory. I go out on break, come back and not a damn thing had been done on stocking inventory. As soon as I get back the main manager a woman tells me oh, you better get started on that. While the three of them had enjoyed a 30 minute break as well while I was gone. I almost quit right there. But I wanted to have another job before doing such a thing.

cashmoney_x · 2014-05-16T04:21:47+00:00

Every place I have worked at in my adult life confirms this shit. The men are always pretty cool and the women are dramatic, needy messes.

skyisup · 2014-05-16T07:13:50+00:00

Oh man, made the mistake of writing in the comments.

Animals don’t have gender. Just like they don’t have tenure committees and small businesses. :-) Gender is a social construct.

Never again.

http://clarissasblog.com/2014/05/14/i-dont-want-to-hire-women/#comment-157085

Kepaso · 2014-05-15T16:34:08+00:00

I know it's an old article, already posted in the RP, from a shitty newspaper, but still relevant for this post:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html

JohnPeel · 2014-05-15T22:08:46+00:00

My office has 1 permanent female staff member and 100 men.

Shit gets done, yo.

pursuitofman · 2014-05-15T12:53:06+00:00

I do not contest her contentions. I do not know her experiences.

I have had different results in my past management experiences, however, and if anything, I would prefer to hire women. Despite the issues with child care and pregnancy, etc., women can contribute a great deal to the workplace.

It may be a woman-interacting-with-a-woman thing, I don't know.

Title	Work Drama Queens
Author	ss_camaro
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Date	May 15, 2014 3:58 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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