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Keep ‘Em Coming, Amanda Marcotte!

jacks1000
October 14, 2013
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Title Keep ‘Em Coming, Amanda Marcotte!
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jacks1000
Upvotes 48
Comments 27
Date October 14, 2013 9:51 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
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[–]toysjoe 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

OP, I'm a calm guy. I don't get angry a lot, but you've really done the job with this article. I actually want to reach into my monitor and throttle this woman.

Women have the unique ability of speaking and writing in a manner that, on its face, resembles rational discourse, but underneath that thin veil it is nothing but a tirade of mockery and blame. This article was one of those. I could practically physically smell the sneering attitude of the writer just by reading those words.

I doubt many will read this, but I have a few things to say to some of the things she said.

Our recent troll infestation—which was conducted, as many are, by trolls who wait until a Friday night because they know that the moderators, unlike themselves, are probably offline socializing and maybe even having sex—was an unpleasant reminder that a lot of the angry, entitled dudes described in the post blame feminism because they can’t get all the sex they think they deserve.

Ad hominem attack 1, rational discourse 0

Per usual, I am perplexed by the entire hobby of freaking out on feminists because your own repulsive personality makes obtaining sexual attention difficult.

Ad hominem attack 2, rational discourse 0

... finding out how many are actually well-adjusted people who are certainly doing better in the sex department than you can be disconcerting.

Ad hominem attack 3, rational discourse 0

It’s not like, prior to 1964, men were just assigned a woman and she had to be nice to him and have sex with him whenever he wanted, no matter what.

She's right, it wasn't like that prior to 1964. However, back then, women chose carefully their husband, knowing that they can't leave, or if they did, they will be looked down upon by society. Now, women open their legs for nearly any Tom, Dick (heh), and Jerry out there. They are able to leave their husbands for literally no reason. There is no sense of honor, respect, or femininity. Back then, women picked a man carefully, and stuck by him. Nobody was assigned to nobody.

Simply not being a repulsive choad and take you a long way. But the message isn’t sinking it.

Uh it's "can", and "in". You just had your grammar corrected by an ESL Chinese immigrant who's 14 years younger than you.

  1. Hire an editor.

  2. Ad hominem attack 4, rational discourse 0

... turn you from a bitter asshole who repels women to someone who can get a date...

5-0

You believe women are supposed to be compliant fuckbots...

Speaking as a guy who has been dumped primarily because he chose not to have sex with his girlfriend when he didn't feel it was the right time, I apologize deeply for not being a compliant fuckbot. How dare I not have sex when my girlfriend wanted me to have sex with her? I was wrong. I'm sorry. I promise to be a compliant fuckbot from now on.

You think this because you’re hopeless on the dating market, and instead of reasonably realizing it’s your sour attitude, misogyny, and seething bitterness that’s the problem...

I'm hopeless on the dating market because of my shitty attitude, misogyny, and seething bitterness?

If you think people are born with shitty attitudes, misogyny, and seething bitterness, as opposed to lifelong abuse and mistreatment creating it within them, then you're stupider than you seem, which is already pretty damn stupid.

That's a wall of text right there. Now excuse me while I go vomit.

[–]jacks1000[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

@toysjoe

Yeah, once you get past the feminist hate words and gaslighting, there's very little of substance to most of what they say. IMO, there are clearly "MRAs" or whatever that are angry and hostile, but I haven't seen anything that compares to the sheer fanatical hate coming from feminists. I have honestly tried to engage feminists online in rational discussions but they always just resort to name calling and shaming. Marcotte's idea that the people she calls "misogynists" can't get laid, well, that's just silly. Even someone who is successful at getting sex can still be quite unhappy at the current arrangement. I grew up in the hookup culture, which I have actively participated in since I was a teenager, just came naturally. But I really don't think it is in the best interests of men and women, especially women, in the long term.

I also know exactly what you mean about getting dumped for not putting out. I figured this out a while ago, if a woman is on the prowl, she's going to either have sex with you, or someone else.

I've started to notice a pattern too, feminists are always accusing men of "not seeing women as human" and "not seeing woman as equal" and "treating women as objects." You know what that is starting to sound like to me? "You think I'm a dirty little whore don't you? You think I'm worthless. You just want to use me as your compliant fuckbot." Sounds very, very close to projected masochism. Trust me, I regard Marcotte as fully human. I just don't find her ideas very compelling and would not have sex with her. Hell, if feminism is the idea that women are people, I'm a feminist. Women are just people, nothing special.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Well said, and your English is impressive. Just one thing...

If you think people are born with shitty attitudes, misogyny, and seething bitterness, as opposed to lifelong abuse and mistreatment creating it within them, then you're stupider than you seem, which is already pretty damn stupid.

We are taught to feel that way by patriarchy, and because we hate women so much because we cant get laid.... Yeah right, one of my FWB's is over and laughs about the people telling me I hate women, cant get laid, and have any of the problems that twat says. Even my second wife knew I can get laid whenever I want, and she was openly attracted to my persona that isnt Mr Nice Guy. She wanted the sadist in me to come out and play, and she is a feminist. Hell the second wife left because I got sick and lost my mojo due to feeling worthless.

When a woman is talking about how someone else cant get laid, and she goes on and on about it, guess what. That bitch is projecting. She hasnt been laid well in months, or perhaps years. If they accuse you of cheating, and you arent, that bitch is getting some strange on the side for sure. If she is post wall, feminist, and writing about how we cant get laid, then its pretty fucking obvious she isnt exactly making homemade porn with anyone. She wont be attracted to the yes men surrounding her, and guys who can pull 20 something hotties wont want anything to do with her either. So she is sitting there, pissed off that nobody wants her worn out rotten snatch, well nobody she actually wants.

That she claims we cant get laid speaks volumes about her life and why she is so full of vitriol and misandry.

[–]Modredpillschool 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

There's the assumption that because we're on a subreddit talking about how to get sexual access, we must be incredibly bad at it. It's a stupid assumption.

It's like assuming that being on a body building forum is only because you're weaker than normal people.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It is a very stupid assumption. I knew most of this twenty years ago in my teens, but had not been able to quantify and express how it worked. Also, I was making some stupid mistakes and TRP helped me identify them, so I no longer make those mistakes.

I have been good at getting laid since I was 19, it took two years to figure out how to go about it well enough I could close with the average female after I figured out how to get the first one naked and riding my cock. Now its almost unfair, I am mid 40s, in decent shape, muscled, and have the bad boy image going pretty well with the implied assumption I am doing ok money wise.

Polishing your skills and learning from like minded individuals does not mean you are incapable of doing something, bad at it, or misguided, it just means you want to get better at what you do. Those who complain about things like TRP and other self improvement subjects lack the willpower and self awareness to actualize what they want from life, so they simply complain about those who do rather than getting better at it.

[–]jacks1000[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

@vengefully_yours

Now its almost unfair, I am mid 40s, in decent shape, muscled, and have the bad boy image going pretty well with the implied assumption I am doing ok money wise.

Heh. I'm mistaken for 28 all the time. Never had any problems attracting women based on my looks alone, but TRP has helped me understand relationships more, in a way I hope will lead to something long term. Ever the optimist I guess. One thing I figured out due to past, failed relationships: I will never, ever have anything more than a fling with any woman who is in any way, shape, or form, a feminist. And, career women just don't make good partners. I'm a pretty libertarian guy, people should be allowed to do whatever they want, but I know what I like and I'll be damned if some aging, bitter feminist cunt is going to have any say in my life.

Why should anyone, men or women, care what feminists think? Feminism is just an ideology, like communism or nazism. It's not fact, it's not science.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed man, I have no use for feminists at all. They are untrustworthy at best, and at their worst they will lie and manipulate your life by any means possible.

If I can find a woman who isnt nuts, who will appreciate me for who I am, what I do for her, and stay faithful because its the right thing to do, then perhaps I will let her live with me. The very first time she acts like one of my wives, she is gone. Her shit will be out on the highway and I dont care if its in the middle of a blizzard. Bye bitch, you are not welcome here with that crap.

[–]lifesbrink 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oddly, amanda makes the same cases for self-inprovement that this forum does. Its almost like she is trying to be red pill but failing.

[–]jacks1000[S] 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I'm back! The Gul Dukat of Red Pill. Thanks to whichever BluePill feminist gave me that nickname.

I'm hoping to get on Manboobz again.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]magicalbird5 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I would say it isn't that extreme although the top 20 percent get the majority of the women. Average men are kind of set and betas get nothing.

[–]lepies_pegao 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

oh you are wrong my friend!!!
They get the pleasure of provide! lol

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm hoping to get on Manboobz again.

It's how you know you've made it

[–]jacks1000[S] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's how you know you've made it

LOL I had never even heard of them before they posted me. I've heard it described as the "Heartiste of Feminism."

I read a bunch of comments on various threads. I was not impressed.

This whole online feminism movement seems to be women and manboobz calling people "shitty" for disagreeing with them.

Really, who cares what they think?

[–]jacks1000[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

@ANAL_PRO_LAPS

Oh, I see.

I didn't understand that site until just today, when I saw a picture of the Manboobz. Explains everything. So, that's the online feminist movement right there: aging, bitter divorcees, men who are fat slobs, ugly women, and woman who are quite possibly clinically insane.

I'm a tad bit embarrassed I ever tried to take any of it seriously at all.

[–]moorethanafeeling 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I would love to be considered the Gul Dukat of anything. That dude is awesome.

[–]jacks1000[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I had to look it up, I don't watch Star Trek. I did watch one clip, where he is on board the good guy's ship and helps them catch smugglers that were on his side (the bad side I'm assuming.) So he plays this weird divided loyalty thing I guess. He working for his own side long term, but short term is loyal to the good guys, as part of some sort of short term assignment? I understand how I got the nickname, my first foray into reddit was to sort of come of with a synthesis of the agendas of both sides. What I found was the the feminists are just hateful nutjobs with nothing interesting to say.

[–]moorethanafeeling 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gul Dukat was a ruthless general for the bad guys basically. But he was so coy about it that he got all the ladies.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]test_ost 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

http://www.rooshv.com/the-feminist-sex-lie

“It’s feminism that allows you to sleep with a lot of women. Without it your game wouldn’t work. You should thank feminism instead of bashing it, because you are benefiting from it.”

This is a lie that I actually used to believe. The truth is that feminism does not allow you to sleep with a lot of women, something I discovered during my six months in Poland.

Poland is a country that has been untouched by feminism. The movement completely passed over it, along with neighboring countries that were part of the Soviet bloc. But is getting laid harder here? Nope, it’s even easier. How can this be explained?

[–]PinkfloydPurplefloyd 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From the very same article:

Approaching, having tight conversation, being confident, and being aggressive with sealing the deal works anywhere in the world at any point in history, not just in modern Western culture. Maybe in some places it may take an extra date or two to get the bang, but unless you’re talking about ultra-conservative countries where women wear a hijab and extra-marital relations are punished by the state, your dick will not suffer just because it’s in a country not dominated by feminist cunts.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I gotta disagree with that birth control point. The free birth control is usually utilized by teenage girls, that have no other means to get it other than planned parenthood. But yeah, feminism really has made it easier for "players" to get pussy. Haha the irony is fuckin great

edit: really? downvotes? grown women pay for their birth control. Hell, it's usually covered by their healthcare. They have no reason to go to planned parenthood...

[–]PinkfloydPurplefloyd -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The free birth control is usually utilized by teenage girls, that have no other means to get it other than planned parenthood.

Do you have any stats to back this claim? Anecdotes don't mean a whole lot.

grown women pay for their birth control. Hell, it's usually covered by their healthcare. They have no reason to go to planned parenthood.

Last I read American men pay significantly higher healthcare than women for less benefits. In other words: men pay for birth control (among other things) for women.

http://www.healthcaretownhall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/PPACA-premiums_05-16-13.png

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://i.imgur.com/UaHAN7Z.gif

[–]Stankmonger -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Last I checked, everybody pays taxes.

[–]QualityControlled 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think so, Tim.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Income tax, no, sales tax, yeah pretty much. I havent paid income tax in a long time.

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