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'Till Careers Do Us Part ~ A new generation of smart, accomplished women is learning the hard way that just because a man says he's enamored by a successful woman doesn't mean he actually wants one.

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November 3, 2014
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http://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/till-careers-do-us-part

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Title 'Till Careers Do Us Part ~ A new generation of smart, accomplished women is learning the hard way that just because a man says he's enamored by a successful woman doesn't mean he actually wants one.
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Date November 3, 2014 3:56 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
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[–]regis22342 points43 points44 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of that med school graduate on TwoX that was confused that her classmate married a young elementary school teacher instead of another doctor like her.

Probably cause the guy wants a hot & energetic wife to come home and fuck after he works 65 hours a week, and not a stressed out wife with zero libido who also worked 65 hours a week.

Really not that hard to understand.

[–]234908652438795264876 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Elementary school teachers don't stay hot and energetic for long do they? I imagine it's a pretty soul sucking\crushing job too.

[–]Anderfail5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Teaching is as miserable as being a doctor nowadays. I make almost twice what my wife does and she works much more than I do.

[–]yeahweewee1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

depends on school district, if its in a majority white area teachers have it too easy

[–]Blake552 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Any chance you can link that?

[–]Locastor4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can, that thread was hilarious:

http://www.donotlink.com/cclj

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points30 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

that just because a man says he's enamored by a successful woman

When have men EVER said that though? Only women say that.

"Tattoos make me attractive, a good career makes me attractive, flaunting my orbiters makes me attractive..." NO. Thats what YOU'RE attracted to. Attractiveness isn't simply what YOU'RE attracted to.

[–]1Claude_Reborn11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that just because a man says he's enamored by a successful woman

Only whipped male feminists say that because it's what their overlords what to hear. At the same time, their feminist overlords are utterly disgusted by their toadying ways.

No man with balls says they want a career woman. We want attractive, feminine, agreeable, dependable women we can have as 1st mate to our captain.

No one wants a career woman as 99% of the time they are a raging bitch.

[–]2349086524387952648712 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"If man could fuck a woman in a cardboard box he wouldn't buy a house."

[–]my-redpillthrowaway2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mainstream media says it all the time though. Remember that song which goes "Miss Independent, that's why I love her"?

Fuck mainstream media

[–]dicklord_airplane2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah, a lot of men and women alike seem to emulate traits that they find attractive in the opposite sex, and it's damning. women are attracted to ambition, power, riches, etc., and many women seem to think that those kinds of men are looking for a female version of themselves. it makes me wonder, have these contemporary women actually ever asked their male peers what men want from women?

[–]yeahweewee0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i mean i think its impressive if a women can succeed on her own merits in business world, doesn't mean i think its a good idea or that women should be wasting their youth doing that

[–]Mightaswellmakeone10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course all men want a successful, intelligent woman that might seem "intimidating". Just like all women want a nice guy who really really listens.

[–]stoicly_whimsical5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Problem as I see it is that a successful guy doesn't necessarily look for the same in a woman.

Yet a successful woman usually has an expectation that they'll nab a guy equally or more successful than herself.

The reality is they have completely narrowed down their dating pool by choice.

Whereas a successful man by his choices has just opened his options right up.

[–]AlfredTheGreatest5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think this was a good article. The main theme is that yeah, men like successful women. They know how to fuck, can carry a conversation, don't demand too much of your time. All great... For a short term relationship.

From a male perspective, he asks himself, "What do I gain by locking this woman down v.s. just replacing her with another (younger) woman on an ongoing basis?" The answer is probably nothing.

Alpha women want alpha men. They can't respect anyone less. Alpha men like the company of alpha women for a while. But they make terrible long term partners. Guys want a woman that makes him the priority, is nice to them, has sex with him a lot, and plans things around his schedule. If he wants kids he'll want her to stay home and take care of them if he can afford it. Career women just can't do all those things.

[–]wolololololololo4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would rather the lower income but hard working, good at saving woman for a TLR or even wife than a higher income cold bitch. I have quite a few 'salt of the earth' type friends and I enjoy their company a lot more than many of my city friends.

[–]squiremarcus8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

OHOH ME ME I will marry the rich working women, as long as i get to quit my construction job

[–]Transmigratory1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not all career women, though the overwhelming majority tend to have a repulsive attitude.

[–]bakbakgoesherthroat2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

They insist on "having it all": family, kids, career, and a fulfilling life. Even at our zenith, men didn't get it all. Our ancestors worked hard to support their families and ended up in the grave 3-5 years before their wives on average.

Feminists initially argued that women ought to have the right to have an independent career-- guess what, now you don't have a choice, you HAVE to work.

[–]a_tes_soulhaits4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"I tend to love men who are extremely alpha, men who are my equals, men I can be challenged by and learn from," she says, confessing, "men who aren't willing to play a supportive partner role."

Now where have I heard this before?

[–]1Revo_Luzione9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like successful women. My last 2 main squeezes have been very successful women in their respective fields.

They have money, to buy steaks & wine for our dinners. (I cook the steaks, a woman can't be trusted not to fuck it up. Learnt that the hard way after eating rubbery, overcooked filet. Never. Again.)

Also, career dames are usually busy 4-5 nights a week, sometimes more. That makes the logistics of spinning plates a lot easier. Thanks, Feminism! You've made my soft harem much easier to maintain.

[–]Locastor5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I'm not even enamoured with the idea of living the life that society dictates "smart, accomplished, successful" men must live.

It sounds like a good way to lose 90 hours a week of your highest T-level years chasing pointless materialistic bullshit and "status" while missing out on tight poon, great food, good music and happy times.

Unlike sex, money is something which provides very rapidly diminishing ROI past a certain point, after say $150k/yr.

[–]AlfredTheGreatest3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would argue that sex has a ROI reduction at a certain point too. Fucking one girl on the regular? Not quite enough. Two is great. Three makes you feel like a bug stud, but you have no time for anything else. Four is a damn mess.

Same with the overall number of girls you've been with. Once you get past a certain point you get a bit bored with the endless game. I think the ROI reduction on sex is one of the primary motivators for guys to get into LTRs. .

[–]1Revo_Luzione3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Shit, I think a guy can live a happy life on half that. Studies on happiness show a point of diminishing returns begins after earning $80k. I'm under that but not by too much, and I have a lot more free time for study, exercise, socializing, etc. There's no reason for me to reach strongly for those higher tax brackets, the gubmit takes a lot more of it then. FUG Em.

[–]TakeYourSoma13 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm pretty damn happy with my current income which is below $80K. I'd be doing very well if I lived in a cheaper apartment and didn't lease my car. Ah well, the follies of youth that's experiencing good money for the first time. Spot on about how a good chunk goes to the government anyway. I just got a raise and don't think I'll get much more than a pittance after payroll and income tax.

I'd be happy making this the rest of my life, adjusted for inflation of course. I don't really have to work that hard for it, I'm usually at the office 7-4. Of course my dream life involves owning a small restaurant (think Chipotle but for barbecue; nothing but sustainable, humanely raised livestock) in Montana, Washington, Vermont, or Maine and having a couple dogs.

[–]bloodshot_eyes0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I upvoted you for your dream of owning a restaurant. One of the most important tenets of TRP is living your life for YOU. When the time is right, I encourage you to follow this dream.

[–]TakeYourSoma10 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you. I just need to figure it all out. I've never worked in the restaurant industry, and I've seen enough Kitchen Nightmares and Restaurant Impossible to know that some of the worst-run places are started by two goobers who don't know the first thing about cooking or restaurants.

[–]1iluminatiNYC1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a case where the phrase "your mileage may vary" applies big time. Different men have different tastes on the particulars of a LTR. Some men just want someone who will hold down home and hearth while they work like mad. Others want someone they can compare war stories with as well as socialize within their profession. While I wouldn't put it at irrelevant, I think it's way too much to call it a requirement for any man.

[+]mega_beta-6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll take an American woman who makes her own money over some dependent Russian bride any day.

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